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(((Psychology))) is a pseudoscience and just another tool. Read Tomislav Sunic on the topic.

Psychologists are the secular priesthood. They determine good and evil and if you question them you are "unscientific" or "mentally ill".

>>695051

You are right OP. What's more, psycologists tend to be the most degenerate people who choose this job because it's easy money or because they try to fix their own shit (most of them are women btw).

>>695071

>Psychologists are the secular priesthood.

Correct, although they're kind of like a type of parish priest, with various other orders of "experts" in different positions. Jewish anthropologist on TV telling everyone that there's no such thing as race? That's an order. Jewish sociologist on Youtube telling everyone that there's no such thing as men and women? That's another order. Cool wine/cat aunt witch-hunting shitlords on Facebook who say it's not good to kill babies in the womb? A lay society. It's as diverse as church vocations over the years.

>>695051

Don't know where else to post this, but here's a tip on how not to raise your kids in a cesspool of degeneracy: call the local public high schools and ask them what they teach for sex ed. If they can resist muh cummies and they teach abstinence, they're probably resisting much more degeneracy than that. You're not home free; you still need to reinforce and protect your beliefs at home, but I swear it makes a big difference. Unless you're homeschooling, this is the way to go. Parochial schools are no comfort, many are full of Communist nuns who don't even believe in the resurrection, they just believe in social justice.

Well, after coming back to the faith, in a more real sense. When i got back into apologetics, philosophy, and discerning. Psychology in the modern era has had many battles with Philosophers, specifically ones that hold to tradition moral values yes. So yes, im personally more on edge to psychology . I haven't thrown out the whole thing, or thrown out the baby with the bath water. But be aware of the Psychologist, you go to. So for me people who are say Freudian's, that's off the list. But your post make a good point still, a lot of psychology tends to negate certain aspects of life we may be going through. Possibly in the grip of some passion whether sexual, Substance abuse, Anger, etc. The whole spiritual aspect. But there are some psychologist who are not dogmatic Freudian's or of some materialist bent, but can be some pretty cool believers. Infact one of the books im looking to get from a Psychologist is a book called Faith of the Fatherless where he lays out Hypothesis, for all the famous atheist over the time span to the modern ones. And ,how that comes to be to, from many factors, but also missing father figures in varying ways. Just be on your toes is what i'd say, and especially with the people you council with. Btw, here's a vid of C.S Lewis having a skirmish with Freud, in this materialistic, and about truth being relative.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH53uFBOGbw&t=0s&list=PL9boiLqIabFgCMdmvZi6hqNfLXlUYG-tS&index=5

This, is also where the famous branch analogy comes in so pretty cool.

>>695051

>Has psychology replaced "morality" in our society?

Strictu sensu: no. Psychology is a method. A means, not an ends. One uses psychology to effect an ends.

Saying "psychology says faggotry is cool" is like saying "logic says god doesn't exist". Sure, you can make it say that, but psychology, like logic, is just a set of tools that in and of themselves don't make judgements in and of themselves.

The problem is that the common pleb thinks that the means is the ends.

>society says

>psychology says

psychology says dick about what health is. rule 1 you learn in psych 101 is that what is considered healthy behaviour is culture dependent. the goody-goody psych 101 advice is that you apply psychology to help people behave in the way that makes them most successful in their native society.

Reason this is taught – medicine is a business. healthy behaviour is whatever your client pays you to make happen insofar as human behaviour is concerned.

like I said. psychology is a means, not an ends. If you're a good person, you use it to heal minds. If you're evil, you use it to delude people for profit.

Psychology is just a set of tools and techniques, though. Knowing cognitive biases, how the brain perceives gestalts, using neurochemistry and what neurotransmitters make people feel, how to associate stimulus with feeling so as to program results… it's a tool, a means, not an ends.

The psych doc sells drugs with his tools. The con artist scams money with confidence tricks. The social engineer gets your passwords. The forum troll gets your ire. All of them are using psychology as it is – a tool.

Evagrios of pontos even understands psychology sublimely when he makes his discourse on the 8 cardinal faults. For a pre 1000AD person, he's spot on with human motivation and perception. Not perfect, but definitely better than anyone before or contemporary with him. I'd even say "since", but his theory is not encompassing for certain perceptual tricks with optics.

>>695052

I would be careful to just write off the whole field like that though. The real problem is all the psycho-structural etc stuff that is explanatory but not predictive. Unfalsifiable voodoo.

>>695071

I'd say it's a wider category of paper-pushers including modern humanities departments infested by POMO and theorists, judicial system, an media.

>>695092

What about Gentiles like Bordan Beterson?

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