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It does say things about lust, anon. But regardless, it is good to quit. I'll pray for you anon.

>>692862

>liberal-tier reasoning

>>692363

Beat lust first, that is way more important.

Then get a wife and start making kids, literally.

>>692862

Yeah nah youll never be satisfied with sex. At the end of the day youll be jerking off to shit and youll enjoy it.

>>692862

>If you don't want to masturbate you're free to do so for we are free in Christ. There is no obligation to do so in the bible from my understanding though.

Foolish lie. The works of the flesh are obvious; the sexually impure shall inherit Heaven.

>>692883

Among the many drawbacks of masturbation, your penis acclimatizes to manual stimulation. It was seriously never meant to be jacked off 4 times a day, all this is enabled by the modern porn industry.

>>692885

*AHEM*

the sexually impure SHALL NOT inherit Heaven

>>692862

>If you fulfill your sexual needs in a way that you don't think is wrong, and the holy spirit doesn't disagree with, I don't see why not.

<If you fulfill your sexual needs having gay homosexual anal sex in the ass with men, and the holy spirit doesn't disagree with, I don't see why not.

<If you fulfill your sexual needs in a way that you don't think is wrong and you have an abortion afterwards, and the holy spirit doesn't disagree with, I don't see why not.

The absolute state of protestantism

>>692363

I know the feeling anon.

I struggled with porn and masturbation both. I got especially turned on by gay porn or movies where women are brutally tortured and raped. It got to the point that I was no longer aroused by my wife.

So I went cold turkey on both masturbation and porn. Now, you must understand that this was a long process so you should learn patience. You will regress several times before you are completely out of the woods. I regressed several times into both of these addictions, the key is to recognize what you are doing as soon as possible and to stop. I fell to temptation several times and broke my progress numerous times with masturbation, but my porn addiction is well under control now. The temptation to jerk off to porn is always there but ever since I understand that porn is a talmudic posion of satan, it's much easier to stay away.

Sadly porn is everywhere now, to the point that you can't even avoid it fully (ads, movies, video games), but I managed to reject it.

I still struggle with masturbation because my wife never seems to be in the mood anymore, but even if that were not the case, it's a very good idea to discipline yourself so that you control your lust and not the other way around.

>>692862

Enjoy your ban, heretic.

>>692862

>If you fulfill your sexual needs in a way that you don't think is wrong, and the holy spirit doesn't disagree with, I don't see why not.

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. (Galations 5:22-23)

Please tell me how compulsively cranking your pecker like a caged monkey constitutes self-control.

>>692646

pretty damn sure that it falls within

"thou shalt not steal" and "thou shalt not murder"

the logic itself is broken AF because crime against fellow humans hurts others while sins like masturbation hurts no one (except for yourself but that's a story for another day)

>>692886

that's a terrible thing to say. so genuinely good people who made the world a better place will rot In hell or purgatory just because they fell pray to their natural desires?

honestly, that's just a vile point of view

>>696985

Right, right, you can do what you want, it's your body, etc etc.

>>696987

>>Right, right, you can do what you want, it's your body, etc etc.

dont strawman me, that's not what i said at all.

i dont say masturbation is ok.

what i saying is condemning a good person to an eternity in hell just because they masturbated is completely wrong and immoral

>>696989

Sorry but that's not how it works. Whatever modernist churches say, 'just be a good/nice person and everything is ok!' is just relativist garbage

>>692363

>>692881

>>692993

The solution isn't to get a wife. That's stupid, I tell you. What you need to do is occupying your mind with more positive things. Like, literally anything. Even playing video games is better than fapping. Your mind is restless and just needs some kind of stimulation. I suggest praying rosary and meditation, but if you're still too restless to do any of those, that's okay. Try to alternate between video games and meditation. Play video games less and pray/meditate more everyday, until you finally get used to controlling your mind through meditation.

>>697004

Alternatively, go outside and do physical labors or buy more books and study. But you know, not everyone can stand those activities for too long. You need a special kind of autism, or faith, to be that productive. That's why you need to build up your faith and endurance first through meditation.

>>692885

>Among the many drawbacks of masturbation, your penis acclimatizes to manual stimulation.

As someone who's conducting a thorough study on that subject for over three decades I can assure you that this statement is false.

>>696995

no. you are wrong. and your mentality pushes people away from religion and faith in god.

if all it takes is just one sin to be damned for all eternity. people will just prefer to sin as much as they want because the punishment will be the same.

not to mention that this world view of yours is very immoral

>>697015

The amount of sins you've done in the past doesn't matter. What matters is your will and attempt in this life to repay it.

>>697015

Biggest problem of modern day religions…their leaders got bought out by capitalism to not preach honest morals anymore. Can you imagine what would happen if the Pope stands up against capitalism…the insane amount of supporters would lead directly to another full scale crusade.

>>697020

>implying they don't

"Idolizing money is the root of all evil."

> it says nothing of it in the bible

Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart (Matthew 5, 27-28)

Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. (Hebrews 13:4)

I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I. But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

It's a sin, to lust after a woman like that. To watch videos and to masturbate to it is adultery, and a sin. Paul tells the people that it is better to remain pure, and that if they cannot control themselves like he was able to (via no masturbation) then it is time to go out and find a good woman.

>>697015

No, you can obviously repent. But it's still a sin. Preaching feel-good morality won't change that.