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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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483bb6  No.684780

It's happening folk. On an officially hosted page by the Vatican, there is a revision to the Catechism saying that Homosexuality is not a choice and they were born that way. Not kidding.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_P85.HTM

>They do not choose their homosexual condition

This is a variant of the current version which says

>This inclination, which is objectively disordered,

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P85.HTM

http://wdtprs.com/blog/2018/08/the-mysterious-case-of-ccc-2358-on-objectively-disordered-homosexual-inclinations/

02aa18  No.684781

Orthodoxy, here I come!


cad57e  No.684782

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>>684780

I guess the church is officially dead. That's the end of every mainstream denom in the US. Proddies are lmao and Orthos are CIAtiggered. What do I have to do to find a based church? Is Tradcat still a thing or are only supernazi denoms based now? Be honest with me.


036632  No.684783

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WE TOLD YOU, DOG

WE TOLD YOU ABOUT THE POPE


483bb6  No.684784

>>684782

Apparently this is a false alarm. This was a very old version - that site has been there since 2004:

https://web.archive.org/web/20041103013559/http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_P85.HTM

The terrible vatican webhosters have left around junk pages for over 20 years now.


76a4fb  No.684787

>>684780

>>684781

>>684782

>>684783

Latin version is diffrent

http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism_lt/p3s2c2a6_lt.htm#II. Vocatio ad castitatem

So is Spanish

http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism_sp/p3s2c2a6_sp.html#II La vocación a la castidad

And Portuguese

http://www.vatican.va/archive/cathechism_po/index_new/p3s2cap2_2196-2557_po.html

French

http://www.vatican.va/archive/FRA0013/__P80.HTM

Latavian

http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism_lv/Katehisms/d3s2n2.html#a6

And Italian

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_it/documents/2663cat473-668.PDF

And I was looking into Polish one http://www.katechizm.opoka.org.pl/rkkkIII-2-2.htm

As you can see, some text, identical to english one, is crossed. As it turns out there were corrections to Catechism and proper way should be, as is the case in version by USCCB http://ccc.usccb.org/flipbooks/catechism/index.html#566

2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial.

==tl;dr IT'S LITERALLY NOTHING, OP IS A FAGGOT==>>684781


6cd00e  No.684788

>>684780

>>684787

So, it's absolutely nothing?


657521  No.684789

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BEGOME WESTERN RITE ORTHODOX


d309a5  No.684795

>>684780

That's what you get when you let Religion and capitalism merge. Instead of preaching morals into a corrupted world, they made a mockery of themselves by following capitalistic greed and irredeemably lost their foothold in the world.


e15335  No.684805

>>684784

>vatican webhosters have left around junk pages for over 20 years now.

I wonder if they've been linking homosexuals to that page. I'd like to see the stats on that.


228b1c  No.684817

The catechism doesn't have any authority, it derives its teaching from authority but it itself has none. I still think this is bad especially when combined to the recent change involving the death penalty, but I'm not going to pull out the pitchforks yet.


76a4fb  No.684820

>>684788

We learned that however is in charge of it's website (or atl least english part of it) is lazy winnie the pooh.

>>684795 see >>684787


73f45b  No.684822

>>684787

It's a shit catechism nonetheless

>Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained

>constitutes for most of them a trial

>at times by the support of disinterested friendship

It fails to point out the root and it doesn't give a valid solution to the problem. It talks about homosexuality as a situation that just happens for "psychological" reasons, yet unknown. Let alone modern homosexuality is 95% an ideological and philoshophical anti-Christian movement rather than actual sexual deviation.


483bb6  No.684846

>>684822

i'm thankful more and more people are realizing the catechism is crap and that there is crap even in the ordinary magesterium, like lumen gentium, and you can't take things at face value in order for it to be coherent.

the death penalty change is one of the best things in that regard, so more people who are honest can realize that there's a whole lot of crap that has been propagated and that if you read it at face value it's basically heresy. you have look at all other dogmatic teachings and wrangle the new stuff to basically make the statements totally redundant, and also makes it totally misleading to people who don't have a strong understanding of the whole of the churches teachings. we need to purge these workers of satan from our church


866ea2  No.684851

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>>684787

OP is a literal faggot who doesn't follow the catechism. Stop being a faggot OP it's a sin.


866ea2  No.684855

>>684852

I don't see what's wrong. It still says it's a mortal sin and a crime against nature.

There were faggots since the beggining and there will be fags until the end of the world.

While I agree that the modern world has made more faggots its still unknown, at least to me, how can a fully grown man dislike a good looking woman. It's a mystery.


866ea2  No.684856


57cb29  No.684857

>>684781

>>684782

t. literal LARPers

>>684783

How does modernist bs refute the Papacy?


f1ed20  No.684865

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>684780

Congrats OP, can you be even more scandalous?

OP is a bundle of sticks tied together


7dfbf3  No.684898

>>684780

>>684783

The ones trying to bring gays in and allowing them to marry and thousands of other heresies are the very ones who want the Church to be more like the Protestants. The Lord warned us of these things to come and has guaranteed the safety of his Church long ago.


f57f41  No.684899

>>684780

Homosexuality is a choice and no one is born that way. You can overcome your sexual perversion with GOD'S GRACE.

t. Ex-homo


0b0b08  No.684912

>>684899

Right on man. I thank God that even in this degenerate age, God's light can shine.


1e3b98  No.684941

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Imagine seeing a thread like this and actually believing it.


f57f41  No.684998

>>684941

I believe everything I read on 8ch


27ccca  No.685014

>>684780

Even if this were the amended version, it doesn't really read differently from the current one. It says that homosexuality is a "great depravity… under no circumstances can they be approved." We don't object to the assertion that homosexuals are born with homosexual inclinations.

>Chastity and homosexuality

>2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,140 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."141 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

>2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. They do not choose their homosexual condition; for most of them it is a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

>2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.


9293fc  No.686695

>>684780

Reminder that catechisms are not infallible documents and any teaching in them that contradicts dogma and morals is false and fallible. This applies to all magisterium.


e4ca26  No.686726

>>686695

But why do they include it in the Catechism if its wrong, when it is the main document for teaching the faith? To me this means they are knowingly teaching error




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