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>gotquestions.org promoting modalism Christanon 07/31/18 (Tue) 01:46:32 0a01d8 No.682248

>It is quite possible that God does not eternally exist as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (the ontological Trinity) but that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit explain the way the members of the Trinity relate to us (the economic Trinity). In the way the Trinity has chosen to interact with human beings, one member occupies the Father role, the second occupies the Son role because He was the one who submitted Himself to the Father and was born as a human being, and one occupies the Spirit role because He is the one who empowers believers of live in a way that pleases God. C. S. Lewis envisions it at God the Father who is above us, God the Son who is beside us, and God the Spirit who is in us. If this explanation is correct, the Holy Spirit proceeded from the Father when He was sent into the world at Pentecost, but this says nothing about His “eternal procession.”

https://www.gotquestions.org/eternal-procession.html

Christanon 07/31/18 (Tue) 04:11:30 21bf91 No.682263

That is not modalism.

Christanon 07/31/18 (Tue) 05:12:58 25c2d0 No.682275

Reminder that C*tholics came up with what is or isn't (((heresy)))

Christanon 07/31/18 (Tue) 05:49:29 8c8138 No.682290

>>682248

gotquestions.org is decent but they don't have everything sound and correct, keep this in mind. That said, it's good starting ground for apologetics if you're new to this field.

Christanon 07/31/18 (Tue) 12:29:26 af24a9 No.682378

This isn't modalism, just a stupid way to say that the names of the divine persons are not apophatic (Unbegotten, Begotten, Proceeding) or inter-relational (Father of the Son, Son of the Father, Spirit of Both) but economic (Father because He is our Father, Son because of the incarnation, Spirit because He comes to dwell in us).

Pretty dumb idea though. Scholars agree that the authors of the NT have zero interest in describing inner Trinitarian life, but I think that at least what Jesus says about Himself, the Father, and the Spirit reflects something of their eternal relations (plus His baptism was literally a revelation of what had always been the truth).

Christanon 07/31/18 (Tue) 13:39:16 2d7bf8 No.682389

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>>682248

O Patrick

Christanon 07/31/18 (Tue) 20:19:33 e1f299 No.682463

>>682378

>Pretty dumb idea though. Scholars agree that the authors of the NT have zero interest in describing inner Trinitarian life

Are these scholars Jewish by any chance?

Christanon 07/31/18 (Tue) 20:30:02 af24a9 No.682467

>>682463

No… And honestly Jewish scholars on the NT are hard to take seriously anyway.

The authors of the NT are concerned with our salvation in Jesus Christ, not in describing God's inner Trinitarian life. Even the Fathers had no interest in trying to describe such an awesome mystery, until Arians and Pneumatomachoi forced their hand.

Christanon 07/31/18 (Tue) 22:53:19 10fd89 No.682500

>>682290

They seem to come from a Calvinist approach more often than not, which is a major deal breaker for me.

Christanon 07/31/18 (Tue) 23:18:10 04f963 No.682517

>>682248

Theologlet here but I thought Modalism denies that there are three personages and claims there are only three modes in which God is manifest to humanity. This clearly affirms there are three personages but takes the baffling stance that the three personages are interchangeable with each other and are differentiated by what role they are playing.