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The Femen co-founder could have gone down a different path if she had been a “monk” (This may be a translation issue. Elsewhere she describes herself wanting to be a nun).

>Can you tell me a bit about your story?

>Oksana: I was born in Ukraine, in the city of Khmelnitsky. It’s a very classic post-Soviet city. It was ruled by the USSR and its buildings avoid any historical culture or interesting stories from the past. When I was younger, I lived there with my family. Like all children, I liked to paint, and my parents thought I was very good at it. That’s why when I was eight years old they put me in an iconography school. Usually you had to paint religious icons there. The orthodox religion is very strong in Ukraine and Russia. Also, icons are difficult to produce from a technical standpoint because you work with wood, gold, and different metals. You paint in a very old antique style. All the icons are very codified: you always need to copy the symbols. That’s why it’s quite difficult for a child to stay concentrated. But the teachers found a special touch in me, and one of the professors forbid my parents to enroll me in any other art schools. They said it would destroy my talent. That’s how at eight years old, I was deeply inside the religious world and very concentrated on my craft. It started to take off for me. At ten years old I had already started painting in churches and exhibiting my art. I was deeply inside all these institutional bodies, and because of it, I started believing in God. I always went to Church to pray. When I was twelve years old I decided to go live in the church, to paint icons and spend my life praying. I wanted to stop living a normal life and become a monk.

>Did you decide alone or with your parents?

>I decided alone. My parents were religious of course, we always went to the church with my mom, she always prayed. I thought my parents were very happy about my decision, I didn’t even think to ask their permission. I was spending all my time at the iconography studio or at the Church, so my life revolved around religion. I packed my stuff and found a place, I organized everything. I was about to marry Jesus. But for me it came as a big surprise that my mom saw this as a tragedy, she started to cry and asked me not to leave. She also set up a big meeting with all the family, where she asked everyone to talk to me. As I was saying, I was a very serious child, everyone said that I was “born adult.” I started to think that I didn’t want to overwhelm my parents with stress, so I decided to stay. At that moment, I started to think about the meaning of believing. It was a big paradox for me. My parents are religious, they believe in God, they go the Church… But they refuse that I become a monk. I didn’t understand. I continued living with my parents and started searching for an answer to my questions. I continued painting icons but started engaging in more conversations with the people surrounding me. I wanted to know why they came and prayed in front of these icons. I also starting becoming critical of the Church. When I was fourteen, I found a group of young people from fifteen to twenty years old who organized philosophical clubs out of school. We met in parks and other public spaces. Some read a lot of philosophical books and were Marxists. They were very critical of religion. I found them very interesting. I started to come more and more and read their books. I discussed religion with them and continued to say, “God exists,” wanting to prove it to them. One year passed, two years passed, and I became a total atheist. Finally, I understood there was no place for God in life. Reading all these books and discussing these subjects opened my eyes. I understood that religion is just a winnie the pooh business and a tool to manipulate society. That made me very angry and I stopped painting the icons. I became linked to a group of young communists called Komsomol. We started creating this party of young communists, with elections. But it was not really working. In Ukraine, after the broken USSR, everybody hated communism because it was associated with Stalin and totalitarism. We were super young, we went to clean the statues of Lenin…

https://www.crash.fr/a-meeting-with-oksana-shachko/

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May God have mercy on her soul.

One of the most depressing things is looking upon secular/Non-Christian artists with absolutely glorious God-given talent and seeing them waste it away on blasphemy or self destruction, and realizing that they could've been so much more if they had followed Christ.

Tonight I found myself listening to some Amy Winehouse and Lady Gaga's duet album with Tony Bennet and thinking "what a tragic waste."

Nice analysis. It is interesting i suppose to take a moment to think about the person behind the mask. When i see the rekd femnist comp videos I often laugh and move on. I never once consider that the person acting in the video is a real person. I suppose its hard to consider them individuals when you see them act like so many other fools.

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This is extremely sad. A good soul destroyed by the evil of communism.

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This actually made me cry, just a little. What makes it worse is that you know they used typical fedora tipper arguments to push her off the right path. The meme graph probably came up. Had she been born 5 years later she would have seen such silly arguments become nothing but a mocked meme.

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I always thought of femen as paid prostitutes. This is so sad, marxism is a mental illness.

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Get thee hence, Satan.

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What a tragedy. I wish her parents had respected her position as a monk.

Nevertheless, I don't blame them, of course. But no child is safe from joining some college cult, espefially those who had an unconventional social development.

May God have mercy on this very strayed sheep.

> I was spending all my time at the iconography studio or at the Church, so my life revolved around religion. I packed my stuff and found a place, I organized everything. I was about to marry Jesus. But for me it came as a big surprise that my mom saw this as a tragedy, she started to cry and asked me not to leave. She also set up a big meeting with all the family, where she asked everyone to talk to me. As I was saying, I was a very serious child, everyone said that I was “born adult.” I started to think that I didn’t want to overwhelm my parents with stress, so I decided to stay. At that moment, I started to think about the meaning of believing. It was a big paradox for me. My parents are religious, they believe in God, they go the Church… But they refuse that I become a monk. I didn’t understand.

That's scandal, ladies and gentlemen. Rededicate yourself that YOU may not cause one of these little ones to stumble.

Whenever I read of suicide, I always think of PKD's note at the end of A Scanner Darkly. It reminds me of a St Alphonsus sermon - warning of the consequences of sin, with nothing but compassion for the sinner. May God have mercy on us all.

https://tayiabr.wordpress.com/2016/11/29/authors-note-a-scanner-darkly-pkd/

And may those craven people who use the young in such ways repent immediately.

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Its her free will who cares.