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Does this really need its own thread?

>>675640

yes, where else would it go? is this entire forum sanctified unto something? if so, why is it polluted with so much faggotry?

>>675641

why not, friend? the observation resonates strongly with my experiences with churches. im still a born again believer, but what is wrong with his observation?

>>675638

It's not the priest's fault that the man fell into sin.

Besides, sinning isn't the end. We're all called to repent after sin, even the priest in that story would have sins to repent of.

Besides, trust in the Lord is the only means of attaining peace in the soul.

This belonged in the questions thread.

>>675642

>polluted with so much faggotry

I like you already, heh.

If you don't mind sharing, I'd really like to hear about your experiences on church and your interpretation of the statement in the picture.

As for me, I think that Nietzsche uses an "argument" that's common among a lot of anti-theists today. This is basically where the assumption is made that a person will suffer and be miserable if they live up to the expectations that God has set for us. That's wrong. Everything that God has commanded us to do when we follow Him is due to his love for us. We see God as our father, yes? We are taught that God loves us and our relationship with him is that of a father and child. A father knows what's best for his child. The other side to this analysis is that part of the process of becoming closer to God might lead us to be ostracized by others. This doesn't mean that the values/morals we follow are wrong, though.

>John 15:19

<If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.

What I'm writing probably doesn't make much sense, but I guess I was just putting down everything that came to mind when I read your quote. Thanks for posting it, actually.

God bless.

>>675642

>where else would it go?

The QTDDTOT thread.

>>675659

excuse me, ma’am, your concern has already been addressed by >>675645

sage.

Nietzche was a glorified sophist, right down to the believing that there's no objective truth.

>>675669

wheres the sophistry in the quote?

>>675638

hes right because at that moment the convert became redpilled (aka breadpilled)

>>675674

yes, but despite being redpilled, the source of his misery as a function of seeking relief from the misery itself became the “improver.” so what does my hypothetical brother in Christ serve by making as much of the community as possible my enemy?

>>675671

Not in the quote. Just in general, Nietzsche was a sophist.

>>675679

john the baptist’s baptism, was it of men or of God?

>>675677

full of hatred and ostracization doesn't necessarily follow. The person himself doesn't have to continue in his faith either so obviously he thinks its for the greater good or was misled. He seems to be advocating a 'ignorance is bliss' attitude hence the allusion to 'redpill'

bump

>>675845

Masons and secret societies are work of satan, but why are you including Knights of Columbus there, it's a catholic organization

>>676202

>>675845

oh ok, didnt know he was mason.

>>675845

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2015/10/people-stuck-one-hand-jackets-old-photographs/

Masonry found its modern form around the same time as Napoleon. It's far more likely the salute was added to Freemasonry -after- they rediscovered the 600 B.C. custom of keeping one's arms inside a toga for dignity than the custom being pulled out from Freemasonry.

The reason, of course, is that there would be more intermediate examples (why no hand-in-waistcoat pictures from 300B.C. to 1600AD) of this sort -if- masonry had been quietly keeping the custom all along.

Much more likely it was a sudden fad which masonry then plopped into one of its degrees or, slightly less likely, coincidence.

>>676255

I'm sorry, I'm really having trouble making sense of this. It's an interesting idea but I'm not getting your point.

>Man lives according to his earthly passions, but sees no problem with it because of whatever secular/pagan reason he can come up with

>He is converted by a priest to Christianity

>He continues his behaviour without attempting to amend it, finding that his previous "pleasures" now have actual names and repercussions on those around him

>He gets mad and blames the priest and everybody else for his unwillingness to let go of his past life

Dat pride.

Basically, he went to the doctor who found that he had a tumour, which the doctor diagnosed as cancer. The man then blames the doctor for "giving" him cancer and refuses to get appropriate treatment for it.

tl;dr - It's another "Nietzche wildly misunderstands Christianity" episode.

>>676288

op here. checked and saved. thank you. this pulled me out of a foul mood.

>>676288

>Polish

>>676360

With respect, that's how Nietzsche used to identify himself.

He hated German nationalism so much that he refused to consider himself a German at all, and would troll German nationalists by adamantly declaring that he was of noble Polish stock.

Nietzsche tried to follow his own philosophy and he ended up having a pretty miserable life

>>676676

i agree.