[ / / / / / / / / / / / / / ] [ dir / 1piece / 3rdpol / acme / arepa / asmr / cutebois / hypno / vichan ]

/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Email
Comment *
File
Password (Randomized for file and post deletion; you may also set your own.)
* = required field[▶ Show post options & limits]
Confused? See the FAQ.
Embed
(replaces files and can be used instead)
Options

Allowed file types:jpg, jpeg, gif, png, webm, mp4, pdf
Max filesize is 16 MB.
Max image dimensions are 15000 x 15000.
You may upload 5 per post.


The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

File: 1cf91b6523ced11⋯.jpeg (533.1 KB, 808x631, 808:631, 03D6298C-1229-4A6B-A924-E….jpeg)

1432a7 No.675104

No Porn, no girlfriend/wife, not too often. I’m thinking it’s bad because I should be using this sexual energy to find a wife.

5f5092 No.675108

Yes

Asides "semen is wasted and its unnatural" part, I'm pretty sure it degrades your sexual life, so you'll have problems in marital life due to it.

also, there's already a nofap thread


bd9b77 No.675109

>>675104

>excuse me but I need a wife to satisfy my libido

Be prepared to be told to "winnie the pooh off" a lot. No woman in the world wants to be the object of your lust.


1432a7 No.675112

What is Winnie the Pooh off >>675109


f814cc No.675116

>>675109

1 Corinthians 7:2

“Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.”


d0e0d7 No.675119

>>675112

The "F" word filters to "Winnie the Pooh"


12cb68 No.675120

Wherever there occurs a special kind of deformity whereby the venereal act is rendered unbecoming, there is a determinate species of lust. This may occur in two ways: First, through being contrary to right reason, and this is common to all lustful vices; secondly, because, in addition, it is contrary to the natural order of the venereal act as becoming to the human race: and this is called "the unnatural vice." This may happen in several ways. First, by procuring pollution, without any copulation, for the sake of venereal pleasure: this pertains to the sin of "uncleanness" which some call "effeminacy."

In every genus, worst of all is the corruption of the principle on which the rest depend. Now the principles of reason are those things that are according to nature, because reason presupposes things as determined by nature, before disposing of other things according as it is fitting. This may be observed both in speculative and in practical matters. Wherefore just as in speculative matters the most grievous and shameful error is that which is about things the knowledge of which is naturally bestowed on man, so in matters of action it is most grave and shameful to act against things as determined by nature. Therefore, since by the unnatural vices man transgresses that which has been determined by nature with regard to the use of venereal actions, it follows that in this matter this sin is gravest of all.


5f5092 No.675122

>>675120

why cant latins speak in simple and coherent manners, instead of this Talmudic tone? Its as if I was reading mishnah.


12cb68 No.675128

>>675122

It's Summa, the driest and most coherent theological manual outhere.

If anything it's read like physics textbook.

But since education is dead in 90% of places then let me rephrase it.

<Wherever there occurs a special kind of deformity whereby the venereal act is rendered unbecoming, there is a determinate species of lust.

When sexual act is not rightful (i.e. between man and his wife, with penis in vagina) it's mean that there is special kind of lust.

<This may occur in two ways: First, through being contrary to right reason, and this is common to all lustful vices; secondly, because, in addition, it is contrary to the natural order of the venereal act as becoming to the human race: and this is called "the unnatural vice."

All lustful sins are unreasonable (and thus evil). But some are not only evil in this way but they are also opposite to the very nature of sexual act.

<This may happen in several ways. First, by procuring pollution, without any copulation, for the sake of venereal pleasure: this pertains to the sin of "uncleanness" which some call "effeminacy."

Masturabation is such sin against nature, because it's done without another person for the sake of pleasure. Masturabation is called "uncleanness" which some call "effeminacy."

<In every genus, worst of all is the corruption of the principle on which the rest depend.

The worst kind of corruption is such that is opposite to the very foundation of a thing corrupted.

<Now the principles of reason are those things that are according to nature, because reason presupposes things as determined by nature, before disposing of other things according as it is fitting.

Sins are always against reason. And foundation of reason is nature of thing that reason meditates and acts upon by will.

<This may be observed both in speculative and in practical matters. Wherefore just as in speculative matters the most grievous and shameful error is that which is about things the knowledge of which is naturally bestowed on man

This truth (worst corruption is that of roots) is true to both thoughts and actions. In thoughts, worst error is such that attacks natural knowledge of man.

<so in matters of action it is most grave and shameful to act against things as determined by nature. Therefore, since by the unnatural vices man transgresses that which has been determined by nature with regard to the use of venereal actions, it follows that in this matter this sin is gravest of all.

And when it comes to actions the worst sin is that attacks the very nature of thing. And thus sins against nature, that attacks the very nature of sexual act, such as masturbation, are worst kind of sin.

tl;dr Masturabtion is always unnatural and unnatural sins are worst kind of sins when it comes to lustful ones.


5639e7 No.675130

>>675122

cause it’s all fan fic. the summa quotes pagan philosophers much more than church Fathers. this is your brain on scholasticism


5f5092 No.675131

>>675128

Yes. So next time, try to actually write something yourself in COHERENT MANNER FOR EVERYONE INSTEAD OF COPY-PASTING.

I can read summa (and consider Aquinas a sadist), but the rest CAN'T.


43ede3 No.675133

>>675116

I think that verse could be interpreted to mean "if two people like each other, then marry them instead of having them fornicate" not "give every man his dream gf so he doesn't tug on his weenie"


12cb68 No.675335

>>675131

>Yes. So next time, try to actually write something yourself in COHERENT MANNER FOR EVERYONE INSTEAD OF COPY-PASTING.

If anything Summa is more coherent than what I wrote. "You are just copy-paste, make your own argument" is such idiotic statement that I tempted to say that only complete morons make them.

>I can read summa (and consider Aquinas a sadist), but the rest CAN'T.

The only difficulty here was to know that "venereal act"="sexual act"

>>675133

It could. Woldn't make this interpretation true but it could.


12cb68 No.675342

>>675130

Thou shalt not bear false witness. Augustine alone is quoted one thousand times more than Aristotle, not to mention all other Church fathers.


9b88e7 No.675343

>>675130

You lie, again.


5f5092 No.675350

>>675335

>If anything Summa is more coherent than what I wrote.

it is not

>"You are just copy-paste, make your own argument" is such idiotic statement that I tempted to say that only complete morons make them.

It isn't, you Talmudist, SPEAK IN COHERENT LANGUAGE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS


68e2c9 No.675362

>>675104

It is always a sin but not always a sin caused by the same reason.

If you fap with porn you develop and habit of lust and perversity that feeds itself.

If you fap without porn it's still a sin and lustful but it is possibly more out of loneliness.

In the first case you develop a pervert mind that keep wanting more, in the second case it is often a result of our natural libido of young men finding a release. It can still develop perversion through imagination though.

Most of us are not made to be celibate or monks, in a traditional society at 20 we're supposed to have a wife, make love a lot and have kids. The sexual drive is not wrong, the way it is excerised is.


c799d1 No.675364

File: b1382cbb9c95d6c⋯.jpg (41.2 KB, 500x293, 500:293, The heart and the soul.jpg)

>>675362

>in a traditional society at 20 we're supposed to have a wife, make love a lot and have kids.


868231 No.675396

File: eee4cbb0f59cd45⋯.gif (619.28 KB, 241x182, 241:182, 1495076663601.gif)


9872a6 No.675406

>>675362

>in a traditional society at 20 we're supposed to have a wife

I am pretty sure people wed around 15~20 and there were more great-grandparents then than now. Also we considered 15 to be of age and an able-bodied adult already.

Yes, it was that sweet. Two people in their youth, in-love, getting married and can "fool around" as much as they want at the height of their "urges", starting their own life, learning it as it goes with their large, warm, healthy family as one; instead of stuck in an academic rat-race, cannot married because of shitty society structure so they fornicate and there are are lots of murdered children and contraceptive and children in the orphanages after that.


12cb68 No.675470

>>675350

>it is not

Dude, I understand Summa more than what I wrote.

>It isn't, you Talmudist

<Calling Scholasticism, which is by definition dry, logical and as strict in definition as possible, Talmudic, which is by definition commentary, upon commentary, upon commentary, with odour and vail of traditions bulit upon.

>SPEAK IN COHERENT LANGUAGE

It is coherent you doof. Just as textbook is coherent. Technical language used have nothing to do with coherence.

> THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS

What is there hard to understand save "venereal"


c07c29 No.675496

>>675133

Only if you ignore the context of the rest of the chapter


cb9474 No.679331

>>675406

Pink_wojack.jpg


9cd367 No.681632

>>675362

>>675364

>>675396

>>675406

I'm twenty and just started dating the love of my life. She's a few years younger and a qt 3.14 virgin. Gonna propose when the time is right.

It's not impossible lads.


a47c3c No.681635

>>681632

Married anon here, got mine later in life. Still very pleased with the decision to marry. It definitely happens, fellows.


9cd367 No.681638

>>681635

Glad to hear. The love between a man and a woman, especially when young, is really a beautiful thing.


2ecf31 No.681688

>>681632

>I'm twenty

you poor sweet summer child j/k

I hope and pray everything goes well fam




[Return][Go to top][Catalog][Nerve Center][Cancer][Post a Reply]
Delete Post [ ]
[]
[ / / / / / / / / / / / / / ] [ dir / 1piece / 3rdpol / acme / arepa / asmr / cutebois / hypno / vichan ]