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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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b0d23d No.655057

California church flirts with unusual experiment: Never call police again…

We recognize that Jesus was killed, not for anything he did, but for who he was, and we see the same happening to black and brown people today

http://archive.today/2018.05.30-181029/http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-dont-call-police-church-20180530-story.html

Standing on the front steps of First Congregational Church of Oakland late last month, Nichola Torbett issued a declaration. “We can no longer tolerate the trauma inflicted on our communities by policing,” Torbett, a white church volunteer, said in front of churchgoers who held photos of African Americans shot dead by law enforcement. The church, she promised, would never call the cops again in nearly every circumstance. Dozens of members had agreed to do the same. "How do police help? They often don't," Torbett later said in an interview. "So, especially as white people, why call them?" As videos of the aftermath of white Americans dialing 911 on African Americans for taking part in innocent activities have repeatedly gone viral — two black friends meeting at a Starbucks, a black grad student napping in a Yale dormitory common room, a black family having a barbecue just blocks from the Oakland congregation — members of this small church are taking extreme measures in response.

They call it “divesting” from police. The church is part of a tiny but growing movement among liberal houses of worship around the nation making similar vows. They include another church in Oakland, one in San Jose and one in Iowa City, Iowa. It’s mostly white ministers and majority white congregations leading the efforts, which come as debates over racism, stereotypes and the role of law enforcement hit universities, businesses and neighborhood councils across the U.S. At Colorado State University, administrators are grappling with an incident last month in which a white parent called police on two Native American students touring the campus. The woman told a 911 operator that the teens, who joined the tour late, were acting “really odd" and wore dark clothes with "weird symbolism."

Waffle House has come under fire for recent videos in which police aggressively arrested black customers at restaurants in the South. In one North Carolina incident, a video showed a white officer slamming and choking a 22-year-old man who arrived after taking his sister to her prom. An employee had called police on the customer, alleging that he yelled at workers and tried to start a fight. Waffle House and police said they did no wrong. The Starbucks incident, in which two men who had made no purchases were denied bathroom access before police were called, led to a new rule that bathrooms are open to noncustomers. Thousands of Starbucks stores shut down Tuesday afternoon while employees were trained in racial bias awareness.

At First Congregational, which is part of the United Church of Christ denomination, the decision to avoid police has generated a variety of responses. A regional body of the United Church of Christ in Northern California endorsed the effort. Elsewhere in the nation, churches have scoffed. Conservative media have accused the Oakland church of being anti-police, and questioned its commitment to safety. ("All I got to say is ‘Oakland, California’ and immediately you know we are talking about nutcases,” one commentator said during a YouTube broadcast). Some nearby houses of worship, including a Presbyterian church and a Reconstructionist Jewish synagogue, have asked how they could join. Locals, curious about the church’s announcement, have started to stop by on Sundays. On Facebook, dozens of people are signed up to attend a July workshop at the church. It’s called “How to NOT call the PoLice (Sheriffs & Kkkorts) Ever.” “We’re taught to turn to police for so much, even simple disagreements between people,” said church member Sarah Pritchard, who is also white and is setting up trainings such as the July workshop. “Why can’t we resolve issues among ourselves?”

53d0ec No.655063

Great. Put up a sign saying "These homeowners will not call the police" next to your "This is a gun-free home" sign. Before you know it your martyrdom fantasies will come to fruition.

People are not being killed for being black, generally. They are killed during the commission of crimes, in the aftermath of the commission of crimes, because they resisted arrest, because they went for the officer's gun, because they were in the process of assaulting someone, because they ignored an officer's request to keep their hands up, because they pointed a gun or a realistic replica gun at people, etc. Blacks die disproportionately because they commit a disproportionate percent of the crimes, and when they get caught for a crime or pulled over they don't use common sense and instead go aggro. Innocent people do die sometimes due to mistakes, or perhaps in some rare circumstances prejudice, but rarely, and the legal system deals with it. Christ was sinless and it's insulting to compare his unmerited death to most of these other deaths.


93f852 No.655093

Old news, OP


ba93b6 No.655437

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>>655057

And they'll all burn in hell for this too.

>Socjus is literally satanic

You don't want me to call the police who will carry out the law? Cool, I'll carry out the law then and unlike the police it's in my interest to put down an animal.


5fa6aa No.655439

>>655057

"Be tolerant. Sell your sword and buy a cloak"

Progression 6:66


7ad887 No.655450

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>>655063

Whats sad is that I actually know a guy who told me that he believes in gun control so he can "be with the martyrs" if someone ever tries to kill him and his family.

>mfw


935e48 No.655459

It's partially because I'm Black, but also having worked as a first responder I see it as a positive thing that white people are deciding to restrain themselves. The material outright says that this doesn't apply to more serious settings, ie violent crime, and instead is intended to stop incidents where y'all's reliance on authority results in us being treated inhumanely.

Such as sleeping. Or needing to pee. Or applying to university. Or cooking.

Nobody said that this is intended to give criminals free roam, and by not wasting the beat officer's time with bullshit they're allowing the city to focus on more serious offences.

Maybe one day, a white person will just walk up and discuss things instead.

Also, police shootings are the result of escalation being the only operating procedure coupled with a shrinking racist majority. If cops were trained to talk suspects down, and quality of life offences disappeared that would take care of 50% of the problem with police. The other 50 is being threatened by gangs for contact with the cops, but that's something we need to solve ourselves.

I don't see anything religious about this topic, aside from practicing the golden rule. This being done by a several church congregations is novel, but strikes me the same way having your homeowners association or gun club undertake this would. It's a meeting place, where people decided to take action as a group.




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