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05fb9c No.611869

Can depression be caused by demons or influence of such beings?

Too many years have passed and no real replies o what either causes and cures them. In many cases the real cure is way too spiritual, which opens the case for this type of questions..

3bdaf2 No.611874

Certain types of depression, yes, like acedia, which in religious contexts manifests as a serious and quite desperate aversion to religious life and discipline, is probably a result of demonic influence. It wasn't call the Noonday Demon for nothing.

In other cases it can be a result of affluence and boredom, or other forms which result in denial or despair of the mercy of God are probably also demonic influences, too.

I don't think it does to go back to thinking that all kinds of illness are just evil spirits. Some will be, yes, but most are purely physical.


05fb9c No.611910

>>611874

>>611874

>affluence and boredom

Suicidal tendencies must be something than that. In some cases demonic influence could be present.

Most cures are spiritual, or people who describe them in the most materialistic sounding way but cure is always an abstract spiritual and emotional experience.

All the materialistic aproaches leave much to be desired


47d5d9 No.611918

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Maybe in some cases but probably not all


795638 No.612117

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>611869

Maybe, sometimes, but there's also another possibility for the recent prevalence (pic related)

Of course, it may simply be a curse for this generation's rejection of God. The two things may be coincidental with purpose, if that makes sense.

>>611918

yeah, some freaky shit shown in that vid


5c95b9 No.612120

>>611869

Most modern depression is caused by not being catholic and hypothyroidism due to the modern diet and endocrine disruptors.

Solve both and you won't be depressed


05fb9c No.612146

>>612117

Lack of Faith in God makes it easier for Demonic infiltration. It's a possibility to consider


795638 No.612493

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>>612146

True, but there have been long periods of this thru history without the depression rates we're seeing

So, I figure not every snowflake millennial that's depressed is demon possessed

Not to say this isn't all, as I said, God's warning judgement on a generation.


c63ec5 No.612522

Yes, read story of saul


58ae33 No.612548

Depression is a state of the natural world. It is hard to fight, but never submit.


4d9b24 No.612578

>>612117

I liked this video a lot, but I think it's slightly absurd to act like millenials have no share in the blame. Certainly I agree with his assessment that the environmental factors contributed heavily to how that generation turned out, but they can't be released from all responsibility. They are surely capable of overcoming, especially in Christ. Sage for off topic.


6cac5c No.612588

I have depression: should I go and talk to a priest? I’ve committed many deadly sins and haven’t been to confession in a long time…


ffa304 No.612654

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>>612588

Yes, go to Christ and be healed.


811785 No.612766

>>612654

Went to confession even took the body and blood of Christ. I want to start over, no matter how much it will hurt: I want this pain to be the suffering of labor, and my new gestation as a better Christian even with my flaws.


974aaa No.612790

>>611869

I couldn't tell you.

What I can tell you is your emotions are manipulated near daily by advertising companies, intel agencies, and bad people, that your brain is in some ways similar to a computer generating a response via algorithms, inputs, and something random that random thing, I imagine, is where God or perhaps the human spirit would come into play. This is all just a theory based on my work with computers and dealing with my own psyche. Essentially, if you receive the same sort of stimulus over and over again, internal or external, your mind will start to think those thoughts more often. I've noticed anecdotal evidence so it's not proof most people I know with depression watch among other things, horror movies, and consume other media with very dark/depressing themes. In myself, I have been experimenting with some success, my mood improves rather drastically when listening to 'good' and 'happy' music. This effect has somewhat changed me as a person, I refuse to even watch commercials for horror movies and other things that are 'bad' because I've noticed the effect that propaganda and adverts have on people. I don't think it's going to turn me into a mass murderer or anything, but I think allowing it a place in my brain would bring out the nihilism and cynicism i struggled with in my youth.


974aaa No.612791

>>612588

A psychiatrist is going to tell you to take pills. A priest is going to offer you forgiveness.

What I will tell you is to steel your mind.

I have been on /pol/ for over half a decade, I have become a master at manipulating people and it is quite terrifying the power with which a single thought is.

If you live with and engage the modern world, you are inviting sin to live in your heart -It takes a very strong mind to resist that sin, but the sin's constant reinforcement almost always means you will fail.

For example:

I don't think about fapping until I see and advert showing a nude or sexualized woman.

It may seem like a mild sin, but it demonstrates to me how weak I really am.

Keeping God in mind has helped me to resist my temptations, at least for a little while. It's not until God slips my mind that the sin is allowed to take hold. I've tried to explain this to anybody I can, it makes no difference what religion, or if they are an atheist I tell them to look at God as 'perfection', to imagine themselves striving to become closer to this perfection. It helps, even the atheists can gain benefit from this method.

Essentially, you are using the same human weakness to your advantage. Reinforce the POSITIVE, avoid whenever possible the NEGATIVE. For me, I was so depressed, suicidal, etc. I wound up forcing myself to listen to bands like Spose and Watsky instead of music I normally listened to mostly country, still an atheist then so I didn't go to Christian music. I listened to motivational/inspirational videos on youtube so much I'd go to sleep and still hear it echoing in my ears.

I knew after careful analysis of myself that my depression was of the self loathing kind, I was depressed because of the bad things I've done. I wanted to be a good person, desperately. And I wanted to be happy. I saw both of those in Christianity. Christians get forgiveness for their transgressions, it doesn't need to weigh so heavily on their mind, psychologically it is extremely effective - if they truly believe God accepts their repentance. I had already figured out Christianity wasn't the evil society taught me to believe, but I could never truly 'believe' in God because he never answered my prayers, almost everything in my life has been painful, and {insert 20+ years of anti-God propaganda from leftists here}. I mean, I believed some sort of entity had to create the universe, but I didn't believe we were anything more than a stain on a petri dish. I realized with my knowledge of propaganda I could 'brainwash' myself so to speak, I could use what I learned on /pol/ to turn myself into a good Christian man, one who believed in God and so reap the psychological benefits of believing. So I set about it. But, this is where it gets a bit comedic, God, in his infinite wisdom did not allow me to do this. When I was in-patient I had found a bible and started reading it. I laid down in my hospital bed to rest and felt a warmth come over me, then I heard God speak to me, he said:

<Noah, I will never leave your side.

20+ years of begging God to show himself, testing him, demanding him perform parlor tricks to win me then blaspheming him when he refused. It wasn't until I decided to force myself to believe in him that he showed himself to me. Since then I have called on him so many times I'm ashamed to admit it, and he comes through for me every time.

>>612766

Hopefully what I've written can help you a bit. If you need any clarifications let me know, the basics though is just repetition. If you can get yourself into a fixed schedule and find a way to work in mindfulness of God it will be much easier to resist the temptations of sin.

The Amish do this beautifully. Wake up, pray to god. Go to work, pray to god. Eat some food? pray to god. Something good happens? pray to god. Something bad happens? pray to god. They're constantly thinking about God and how to serve him, and when you are in that state of mind, sinning becomes a difficult thing to do.

Also I'm still struggling myself. I'm very good at coming up with solutions to problems, implementing them and sticking with it -not so much. We all fail, we all sin, don't allow yourself to fall into despair about it, if you truly are repentant for your sins, God will forgive you.

Good luck anon, I'm already praying for you.


359e03 No.612825

Humans can be worse than demons.




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