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d0390a No.611158

This is a real niche I'm trying to access. Does anyone here have knowledge of Bible translations in Japanese? I'm learning Japanese, and am on track to reach fluency by next year. It seems that the New Japanese Bible is the most popular. My faith is compatible with mostly the Anglican/Methodist/Lutheran crowd (kind of the almost-Catholic but still Protestant faith–pretty traditional).

a9fda9 No.611173

Use the New Interconfessional Version or Franciscan translation.


d0390a No.611176

>>611173

Can you explain why? Hmm, it's the newest version, finished in 1987. Looks good, checking some verses in comparison to my KJV and NIV. Any serious faults of the other translations?


c1d931 No.611194

I have the Living Bible, it’s pretty good


8c536c No.611249

>am on track to reach fluency by next year

Hahahahahaha good luck


ba203a No.611283

I am a weeb and am also interested in this. in particular, Japanese psalms seem cool


36fd58 No.611567

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

6fa1ff No.611576

TBH I have this fantasy of actually living and working in Japan someday alongside the tiny Christian population there. It started out vaguely as an idea of creating Christian anime targeted directly at the Japanese population as a whole – which I understand to be a sort of non-devout collection of Shinto Buddhism beliefs in general. And of using this vehicle for helping them to see more clearly the God Who created all the universe with such exquisite attention to detail and planning from the scientific perspective. Then helping them to understand if God took such attention to provide for them how it shows His love for them.


cf5689 No.611652

>>611576

Ah ah ah, I bet like most of us have that dream…dang it, after reading many of Shusaku Endo's books, I wish I could go back ten years, study Japanese and enter a seminary to become a priest there (too bad I am now too down the rabbit hole to do that).


a75f57 No.612021

Good luck finding a red letter Bible in Japanese heheheh


582d2a No.612302

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Anyone who aspires to have the "Japanese Dream" must watch these videos first.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs1Ipr9JYmU

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLp_eQuxRzlVp3WfyRwoRx4TWSp0nqsqZx


11f882 No.612527

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>>612302

>Ryan Boundless

I don't know why youtube shilled this guys videos but it seems like their plan worked out.

Please remember that he's a whiney, ugly looser who makes money by bitching about how much he hates the country he moved to.

Imagine somebody doing this about your country and tell me that isn't the worst kind of immigrant.


cf5689 No.612532

>>612302

Indeed…anyway, most of us here are irredeemable weebs.

Even I cannot escape that idea, truth to be told for other morbid reasons (no lewd stuff, only: I’d like to experience the “swamp” of which Endo wrote)


c4add8 No.612655

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While we're on the subject, can anyone recommend a Simplified Chinese Catholic Bible. I imagine they're hard to find considering the mainlands stance on religion. Does anyone know if the Patriotic and Underground churches use the same translations?


a75f57 No.612734

>>612527

I live in Japan. Japan is wonderful. Not even a weeb. Lefty expats often do this, when they realize they aren't Japanese and the Japanese care for their histrionics even less than do people back home and so they slowly transfer their hatred of their own country to their new hosts and become "rebel gaijin." The worst:

https://youtu.be/VeYJYx6eSEc


50e405 No.612761

>>612734

How long did you take to learn the language? I'd like to work there for an year…I'm just truly ashamed of even dreaming of such a thing (why do I hate myself so much, I still don't understand…I am a mystery to myself, a painful tragicomic mystery and sort of mistake somehow [damn it, I just came back from confession and mass and I'm already a freaking mess of a man…]).


50e405 No.612764

>>612761

Forgot to mention: my native tongue is not English, so…that would mean learn a third language (and it took me 4 years to have some master of a simple language like English is)


a75f57 No.612842

>>612761

I've lived here a year and I barely speak any Japanese. I'm so busy with work (60 hour weeks) that I don't have time or energy to study. Next year will be less strenuous and I'll be able to study a bit. You could live here for 15 years and never become fluent. Japanese takes about two years (88 weeks) of full-time (8 hours a day including weekends) formal study to be fluent in for an English speaker. It's the most difficult language for an English speaker to learn. No idea how it is for your language.


9b07ef No.612911

>>612527

>whiny

A little. But for good reason.

>ugly

Nope. He does not take care of his looks, but he is quite a handsome man.

>looser

Yes. But I think much of it is due to his circumstances.

>>612527

>Imagine somebody doing this about your country and tell me that isn't the worst kind of immigrant.

I am from Pooland. If someone does this to my country I shall call him, offer him my chair, and wash and kiss his feet, because not many foreigners really gets to see beneath the facade pajeets put up for the foreigners. Its super annoying when your country is portrayed as this peace-loving enlightened nirvana when nobody speaks about the Catholics getting literally murdered in many parts of this savage country and many more.

>>612734

>Japan is wonderful.

It is wonderful. But facts are facts. Not a single thing that Ryan says about Japan, can not be corroborated from various other sources.

If I am buying the product that says on the label these are the side-effects, I'd like that more for honesty than the one which will not mention the side-effects, leave them for me to discover by myself and actively try to disparage me to speak up about it. I'd hate the later one and I'll make it my mission to inform everyone I encounter about it. Those are the same attitudes that are displayed by Hardcore Hindus in my country and I am sick and tired of their lies.


a75f57 No.612927

>>612911

>Not a single thing that Ryan says about Japan, can not be corroborated from various other sources.

Uh how about my firsthand personal experience?


9b07ef No.612930

>>612655

What do you need a Chinese bible for? Just use KJV.

>>612532

>>612761

>>612764

>>612842

You should remember the more a country is accommodating to English speakers, the less easy it becomes to learn the native language. In Japan most of the things you need daily can be done with very little knowledge of Japanese. It is even more true for Koreans. So you don't actually need to know the language to live and work there. On the other hand if you want to marry someone or be citizen, you should learn it or you will be dependent on someone else for some significant matters.

In addition to the Joe's video that I posted, Japanese has a lot more complexity. It has a boatload of personal pronouns, English has 8, Mandarin has four.

Moreover it is agglutinative language i.e. all verbs are like root + 1-5 haraganas. It is very difficult to remember all combinations for all tense, case, gender, number etc.

On top of this it has Keigo, that is saying the same thing differently to show social position (master-slave). If you account for all the combinations the number of possible verb-conjugations rises by multiplicative law.

But the monster that is hiding in the language is Kanji and the various readings of them. Each of them can have many Onyomi and Kunyomi. Some can have nearly ten meanings. It is very difficult to remember all of them.

I am not trying to discourage anyone to learn Japanese. I am just putting all the difficulties on the table and you should make a cost-benefit analysis to decide for yourself. If you want to learn it then good luck. Just know that realistically it will take a long time and effort.


9b07ef No.612934

>>612927

>Uh how about my firsthand personal experience?

Care to point a few of them out here?


a75f57 No.612974

>>612934

I've watched his videos before and laughed my bum off at him.

Anyway, here's his shortest video:

https://youtu.be/G1__PxzYusI

"Dreamcrusher: Prepare for near starvation in Japan"

Wow, isn't that a dramatic title? I'm overweight but I shouldn't be because apparently I'm starving.

Food is slightly more expensive here depending on the kind of food you're buying, but if you're earning enough to have a work visa, you should be able to afford ample food.

Ryan shows some food that he bought for lunch at the 7-Eleven. He complains about how small the portions are.

First of all, 7-Eleven isn't a real store. It's a conbini, a convenience store. You're paying for convenience, saving you walking further to a real store. You're not just buying the product. It's the same as in America or anywhere else. That's the entire point of convenience stores. The products in a conbini will be more expensive than if you bought food you prepare yourself, and the portions will be smaller. You should go to a restaurant, order your food to your door through the Coop Deli, or go to a real grocery store if you want a real meal. And the Coop and grocery store have the benefit of actually being affordable compared to a convenience store or a restaurant.

Worse, he shows this half sandwich. You can also buy full packaged sandwiches at 7-Eleven as well as sandwiches on brown bread with crusts, both about two to three times the size of the entry-level one that he showed. I can go to the Lawson's right now and show comparable ones, but 7-11 has better ones. The kind that he bought are disgusting (the Japanese have different tastes) and are the skimpiest he could have bought. I think he deliberately purchased that kind just for the sake of the video, for exaggerating how bad the packaged conbini food is. You can also get things like counter chicken at the conbini that will fill you up, but it's a convenience store. You shouldn't eat that food. I wouldn't eat the counter food at a convenient store back home.

He says things like,

>You're not going to get enough calories here, you're going to get cranky

This is ridiculous. If you need more calories just eat more. If you can't afford to buy more food, stop shopping at a conbini, and buy cheaper food. When I first came here I was totally broke for two months. I bought a huge bag of rice and a rice cooker for my last $40 altogether. I didn't starve, even though I was flat broke. When I got my first paycheck I started shopping at Costco and the grocery store and I've been hauling huge amounts of food home ever since. I also have a Coop membership and I can order big cases of food right to my door every week. Personally I don't care for rice but Japanese eat a bowl of it with every meal. It's cheap as heck.

I can't imagine why someone would eat every meal out of a convenience store, or why anyone would never think to check out an actual grocery store and buy meals there instead. It boggles my mind.

No, I'm not starving. I'm nowhere near starvation. This video is a joke. Japanese drink portions in restaurants are way too small in my opinion but there's a cultural-historical reason for that, and most places have drink bars so I just fill up two glasses instead of one. Easy fix. Other than that the food portions are perfectly adequate.

This guy is a joke. There are downsides to life in Japan but he doesn't even focus on the actual ones. It's just whining.


cf5689 No.613127

>>612930

I'd feel very bad if I could not speak the language: I'm a migrant to the UK, and at times I feel like an icicle dagger piercing my heart when I cannot understand natives speaking with a very strong accent (it's pride, I know…). Probably I was a fool to even have such a dream. But after all, we humans are a bunch of gullible sheep, and without God who knows what would be of us.


508171 No.613172

>>612911

>I am from Pooland.

No matter what you think about your country, I doubt you'd want to have a guys like him talk about it.


3a4d51 No.613220

I want to preach Christ in Japan


a75f57 No.613224

>>613220

First you need to learn Japanese. I've done a little evangelization here, but it's not like I can go soulwinning door to door when I can barely say "good morning." I can't even attend church because the nearest one is too far away. Also the Japanese aren't the most receptive to Christianity in general for a number of reasons, so your evangelization efforts might be better spent elsewhere. I didn't come here on mission and that's just a side gig for me. If you want to go on mission maybe go to China.


cf5689 No.613227

>>613224

I have read a few very novels on such a topic, all by Shusaku Endo, the (Catholic) Japanese writer. His most famous one is Silence ( the movie missed the point, and sadly I think on purpose, of his story).




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