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b2164d No.605480

>FU’AN, China — For nearly four centuries, a swath of farming and fishing villages on China’s southeast coast has survived as a stronghold of Catholicism, sometimes flourishing, other times withering, its fate often dependent on decisions or conflicts far away in Beijing or Europe.

>Now, a new clash is resonating in this rural region, known as Mindong. This time, it centers on talks between China and the Vatican to bridge their historical differences by settling the thorniest issue dividing them: control of the bishops and priests who run the Roman Catholic Church in China.

>The basic plan would give the Vatican a formal role, and possibly even veto power, in how clergy are appointed in China. That would be an unusual concession by Beijing, which is deeply suspicious of foreign interference.

>In return, the Vatican may force many local communities to accept clerics appointed by China’s Communist authorities rather than popular “underground” church leaders who have resisted state control for decades.

>The prospect of such an agreement has unleashed intense emotions around the globe, with critics accusing the Holy See of “selling out” loyal Catholics in China. The Vatican’s defenders, meanwhile, argue that it must compromise to prevent China’s Catholics from splintering further, especially as the government of President Xi Jinping tightens control of religion.

>But the people most affected by these proposed changes — residents in places like Mindong — say they feel a sense of powerlessness, as if awaiting a storm that they cannot control.

>…

b2164d No.605481


613775 No.605485

>critics blame vatican

>vatican blames PRC government

same thing every time.

also the article even says that the areas are exceptionally poor and people left to go find work. what are people supposed to do? starve to death?


61ca2c No.605486

File: f0f2d0ea995c567⋯.jpg (52.45 KB, 588x960, 49:80, DVi7k_7WsAAMbVV.jpg)

I really empathize with the Catholics in China, I can't even imagine how they must feel. These politics always end up affecting innocent people the most.

I remember once when I told my Chinese (atheist) friend that I'm a Catholic and go to church, she looked at like I just told her I'm from Mars. The majority of the Chinese over there absolutely hate Christianity and it's a very foreign concept to them.

Remember everyone, keep them in your prayers.


b67a47 No.605517

>>605485

>vatican blames PRC government

I'd be nice if the Vatican actually did that.

https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2018/02/the-vaticans-china-whitewash


8b20d6 No.605529

File: 589077152185788⋯.png (335.26 KB, 579x574, 579:574, 589077152185788acd1d42fef1….png)

>Say fuck you to the communists

>They prohibit the church in China permanently with little hope of changing in the future and persecution of Christians intensifies

>Be diplomatic to the communists

>People will get butthurt but it may open doors in the future but it probably will hurt peoples trust in the church


8e78e9 No.605542

I pray for Chinese Christians. I've been learning Mandarin for about a year and have been working to plant the seeds of Christ in my friend in China. But like >>605486 said, it's a very foreign concept to them and just another thing they don't take very seriously.


34a5e4 No.605543

>chinks

>souls

(USER WAS WARNED FOR HERESY AND LACK OF GOODWILL TO ALL MEN)

368d7b No.605546

>>605543

Shut up.




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