How can a modern cathedral be done well today, and not just as a reproduction of past work?

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How can a modern cathedral be done well today, and not just as a reproduction of past work? Christanon 02/11/18 (Sun) 04:16:26 d1b6c1 No.603204

Consider the two images attached - a Byzantine and Gothic cathedral. Both are beautiful and good, but changes in building materials and techniques yielded the second from the first. There's also a continuity between the two - similar liturgy, similar function, similar form.

Most construction today is no longer of stone, but of metal and glass. One WTC is a very beautiful building. Is it possible to reverently approach church architecture with the materials and techniques of One WTC, or does it necessarily evolve into modernist designs that lose continuity? If we had a reverent metal and glass cathedral, what would it look like?

Christanon 02/11/18 (Sun) 16:47:07 02a780 No.603396

>>603204

>One WTC is a very beautiful building.

It's shit.

>If we had a reverent metal and glass cathedral, what would it look like?

A cheap knockoff of traditional Cathedrals.

Christanon 02/11/18 (Sun) 16:54:54 d007cd No.603407

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Is this close enough?

Christanon 02/11/18 (Sun) 17:05:39 b61b29 No.603420

>>603204

>>603396

Aside from modernist ego and hubris, a big limitation with modern architecture is that labor is very expensive, but materials are very cheap. For thousands of years, the opposite was true.

Christanon 02/11/18 (Sun) 17:05:59 2ce190 No.603421

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>>603204

Probably like the Crystal Palace only cathedral shaped. Only weirdos would go for it though since it'd be a bitch to heat, awkward to put all the art around and the lack of separation between inside and outside can make people really uncomfortable when they are trying to have a spiritual experience.

Christanon 02/11/18 (Sun) 17:06:44 b61b29 No.603422

>>603204

Read this:

https://www.orthodoxartsjournal.org/a-miracle-of-liturgical-art-the-church-of-the-protection-of-the-mother-of-god-at-yasenevo/

Christanon 02/11/18 (Sun) 17:10:25 02a780 No.603426

Funny thing is the most modernist "christians" in my area have the most traditional architecture.

Christanon 02/11/18 (Sun) 17:14:58 d1b6c1 No.603431

>>603407

>>603422

See, this is what I'm talking about. They are not a recreation of old things, but are entirely in continuity with what the Church has always done.

Christanon 02/11/18 (Sun) 17:25:41 02a780 No.603445

>>603431

What are you trying to say? No one wants exact replicas of the same church everywhere, just traditional styles.

Christanon 02/11/18 (Sun) 17:28:38 d1b6c1 No.603448

>>603445

Exactly.

Christanon 02/11/18 (Sun) 17:38:16 02a780 No.603461

>>603448

The modern architecture will always be worse than the traditional stuff. Plenty of churches built by copts and orthos in my area that are built with modern architecture and don't look good like stuff made from stone.

Christanon 02/11/18 (Sun) 17:47:46 2ce190 No.603474

>>603431

>They are not a recreation of old things

>contains literal replicas of shrines from the holy land

What did he mean by this?

Christanon 02/12/18 (Mon) 17:37:40 f5ddac No.604146

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>>603204

The ambiance would be wrong with metal and glass (i.e. a mostly open structure, with windows everywhere presumably). The feeling that one is entering the threshold of a different sphere of experience, sacred and enclosed would be lost, cheapening it like a whore dressed in thread-bare clothing.

Christanon 02/26/18 (Mon) 03:30:24 a1a636 No.610281

>>603407

gee willikers, modernism sure is ugly.