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INTEL

https://www.christianmingle.com/

>Does it cost money?

free to join, only communicating via the site/app costs money. This can be circumvented somewhat by leaving your full name on your profile and the smart ones will make their cm handle the same as their fb/ig handle.

https://www.match.com (SECULAR, free to join, claims to have the largest Christian dating pool on the net, proceed with caution)

https://www.christiandatingforfree.com (free join/message, qt vault but has bots)

https://www.catholicmatch.com/ (Mostly for Roman Catholics, maybe you can away with identifying as "little c"atholic if you aren't a dirty papist.)

>What about whores/whoremongers?

list/label yourself as "ultra-traditional", regardless of your denomination. This shows you are serious about it to avoid attracting the lukewarm and desperate. You will still get them, just kindly reject them as they come.

>What about pictures

Post pics from your social media to make you easy to identify if you're gonna be a cheap skate. Make sure the pictures show you at your best. No property showcasing or trashy club/party pics good Christians don't do those things anyways, right?

>What if no social media/pictures to choose from?

Get your family/friends to take or scan in pictures of you in your sunday best and business casual.nerd

>What do I write about myself?

Start with full name (for social media stalking purposes), self description (age, weight, height, gym/church frequency, hobbies, faults/body mods). State that you don't want a physical relationship before marriage. State that you like to dress well for church and in general for God's glory, have pics that back that up. State that you're ultra traditional, your denom, date of salvation, and state that you're looking for a mate to start a family. As such, state demographic ranges, hobbies, denoms (if any) desired, desired opposite sex roles listed in general expectations. List compromises based on your own shortcomings and affirm that if a potential suitor doesn't meet your expectations, wish them luck but to not message.

>What will people think?

Don't worry about it. Care about your goal of embarking on a proper Christian journey of marriage with a mate you will see as your peer.

>What tier should I get?

3 months tops. You will either find enough suitors to keep you busy, find the one, or you will completely burn out due to lack of success.

>What can I expect?

This varies on population density, as larger towns will have more mostly low quality local suitors and rural areas will have fewer, yet higher quality and distant ones. Your distance tolerance is to taste, but be prepared to find the perfect person outside of your comfort/taste zone. If you don't find someone in 3 months, take a break, continue to improve yourself in Christ, then try again when you're ready.

>First date?

Coffee shop. Low investment opportunity to see if the truth lives up to the small talk.

>I can't find my denom, what do?

As long as you both believe the Nicene creed and the Chalcedonian Definition, personal, doctrinal, and familial tastes/compromises apply.

>What's your personal experience?

There are tons of lovely christian girls 18-25 on the site. I was starting to burn out because I was in my late 20's and all the christmas cake on the site were either divorced, had kids out of wedlock, hit the wall, desperate, etc. If you are <28 years old should have much more success than I did if you're just as devout as I was. I got the six month plan, got burned out 2 months in, met a nice girl who was 3 hours away, then managed to find my waifu right before the 3 month mark, and wasted the other 3 months I paid for. I am certain that my personal adherance to all of the above mentioned was essential to my success but your mileage may vary.

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MAY THE PEACE OF THE LORD BE WITH YOU

DAILY REMINDER TO STAY AWAY FROM THE SOY. EAT MORE ONIONS!!

don't be afraid to be an "asshole". the rational male is a good book to learn about that kind of stuff, ignore the fedora parts.

>>602467

I think that goes more into the "be learned and confident in doctrine" and self-esteem than being obtuse, but I agree women are attracted to confidence and self esteem as close second to masculine physical traits.

how do I stop being too beta to make an account and upload a picture of my ugly mug and msg people

>>602524

>close second to masculine physical traits

Try even more.

Zoosk actually has a lot of qts but I don't want to shill out $30 for 1 month (I'm already subscribed to CatholicMatch). I found one of the girl's (the cutest one I want to talk to) FaceBooks. Should I just message her there or is that weird and I should just bite the $30 for 1 month? She sent a message back, I just can't see it (I just sent a smile emoji, it's the only way to greet someone as a non-sub)

>>602749

give them 30$ so you dont look like a poorfag

>>602785

Yeah I was going to do this. Plus there's other girls. We have mutual friends, funny enough. Zoosk is qtcity, I've been getting tons of replies (20) by just sending smile emojis to girls I actually find attractive, but it is up to you to determine who is religious and who is not.

>>602824

WAIT. I AM PRETTY SURE ZOOSK SENDS YOU FAKE NOTIFICATIONS THAT YOU RECEIVED MESSAGES TO GET YOU TO SIGN UP. Disregard what I said then, but there are a lot of qts, though I'm assuming most have taken a certain carousel

>>602827

Correction: FULL ON ABORT for Zoosk. A quick google search reveals people being charge $100 in "coins" after they signed up for a month, coins they didn't ask for. Zoosk is shady garbage, use at your own risk.

>>602828

For more proof, it has 1/5 starts from 105 ratings on Consumer Affairs. Use anything but Zoosk.

>>602740

By realizing beta is a choice not a fixed trait. I used to be the definition of beta until I made the choice to change my life for the better. Now I'm a chad that nobody guesses is still a weeaboo.

>Make a list of all the things you don't like about yourself.

>Research how many of those things you can either totally fix or minimize.

>Fix all the things about yourself that make you fear creating a profile.

>>602983

This, it can really become the start of a great journey, anon

>>603299

thanks for saving my webm

>>603311

You think you got it bad?

>Small town Ontario far from Major cities like Toronto

>200 KM radius

>Between 20-30 (I'm 27)

>Catholic

>Don't care if they drink/smoke

>Don't have kids

>Body type doesn't matter

Results? 0. Absolutely 0 women. For fun I removed the age requirement. The only women looking are two women aged 45, and a 66 year old. You at least have a chance, and with women who don't smoke/drink. I envy you so much.

>>603503

Forgot to mention, these results were from multiple dating sites.

>>603302

>sage

>off topic post

>>603311

>baptist

>cucknadia

>logged this week

>no kids

>no vices

>baptist only

>final destination

I have bad news for you: You're being too specific. Try opening up the denom, look for logged in a month instead, personally visiting local churches, or just try CDFF to help your search. Best of luck mate, I'll be praying for you.

>>603503

Dang bro, either open up the range, open up the denom choice, or think about moving closer to civilization in your search for a wife. I'll be praying for you too. Stay strong.

I'm going to try to get her number this week. Pray for me, guys.

Who going /IRLonly/ here? That said I have a date Saturday but shes 2 hours away (meeting halfway). Pray for me and I'll pray for you.

>>603791

>Just date people who fundamentally disagree with you about the nature of the inspired words of Holy Scripture and their correct exegesis

How has this attitude not been trampled out in the last two threads?

>>604136

>meeting half way

Because marriage is 50-50, right? You should insist to drive the 2 hours.

>>604262

You don't want to put too much effort into a girl you don't even know is worth your time. I think he's being fair for doing halfway until he knows her better.

>>604262

>good old baptist hyperbole

I applaud your sense of chivalry, but to drive an hour to an hour long date is enough commitment for each party at the outset. It shows that the woman is serious as well if she is willing to reciprocate in order to kindle a Godly relationship.

>>604136

>Who going /IRLonly/ here?

I will be once I've overcome my porn addiction and started going to church and getting myself in order tbqhwyfam. Although I've signed up to sites in the past, I've never really liked them, I find it way too hard to not cringe at every profile and judge them, even if they're cute. Not judge as in 'you filthy sinner' but just assuming the worst of people and find it hard to think anything other than how ridiculous most of them sound writing about themselves. And I assume others think the same of me reading my profile. It realy brings out the cynic in me, which is strange as I'm a very easy going, optimistic friendly and personable guy who gets on with everyone IRL. also I did check out cdff out of curiosity, its cool you can look through a bunch of search results and profiles without signing up, but 99% of the first 10 pages of results were black women and only one white girl who was cute

Much prefer to meet women in the flesh and notice their personality and idiosyncrasies come through in the way they carry themselves and interact with you and other people, and their beauty or cuteness shine through the God-breathed life in them.

>>604338

You can go to church right now, porn addiction or none. Just confess when you fall, even if you have to do it after Mass (you can still receive the Eucharist as long as you confess right after because of the intent). If you're Catholic, of course.

>cringe and judge

Lol I know exactly what you mean but that comes with the territory. Yeah, cdff has a ton of flip girls trying to score a whitu piggu too.

>that entire last sentence

Amen, I know exactly what you mean. Every so (great) often you come across an interesting dating profile, though. I just sent this one broad a message, she had a quick and charming profile. Just when I think I've given up on the online scene, some girl comes along and makes me think online isn't all that bad. Still, IRL will always be superior. I feel like we (me especially) use online to browse/message/search for qts to fill a neediness in our hearts, though. At least more often than not that happens. Whereas if you church hop enough you're bound to find someone, assuming you live in a decently populated area.

(((post feels)))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyUKCB45dPU

>hey, hey girl!

>hey, hey girl!

>your'e so young

>i don't know what to do

>>603791

>either open up the range. . . think about moving closer to civilization

As long as they're willing to come here I'm okay with that. I like my comfy smaller town. I don't want to go to somewhere like Toronto which is just basically California Jr.

>open up the denom choice

I get that some people can do this and make it work, or someone's willing to convert. But I'm Catholic and will always be Catholic, and I'm not the kind of person who would be good in a mixed faith scenario.

>I'll be praying for you too. Stay strong.

Thank you so much. This means more to me that you can possibly imagine.

>>604388

>You can go to church right now, porn addiction or none.

I know I know, I've had a shortlist of four or five to check out for months, but I've always managed to avoid it or excuse it. I'll be going this sunday though I'm sure as I'm starting to feel the draw to strongly and it's necessity.

>>604388

>If you're Catholic, of course.

I'm not but thanks for the advice anyway m8

>I feel like we (me especially) use online to browse/message/search for qts to fill a neediness in our hearts, though

Yeah I could see myself doing this and am sure I had in the past

>church hop enough

certainly my intention for a while with my shortlist, and then some that I may come across or get reccomended by people I know. Lots have two services on a sunday also so am planning to go to a morning one and then a late afternoon one at different places to get the max in.

>assuming you live in a decently populated area.

I'm down in the depths of what they call the modern BabylonLondon so pretty sure there are some decently packed services going on here and there

>>605430

>hes a UKfag

Oh man, I feel SO bad for you. I do the burger thing and assume everyone on the internet who doesnt explicitly state otherwise at the outset is American. Will pray, brother.

Keep this man in mind, bros. No matter HOW bad you have a qt religious girl pool, no matter how barely non-existent it is, remember this lad has it much worse.

>be me

>live in Scandinavia, mostly prot country

>go to evangelic church with lots qts

>been having doubts and thinking of begoming cath or orthodox

>but there are probably no young girls, meaning I won't ever find a wife

what do I do bros, I want to follow my faith, but I also want a wife. I was thinking I could try finding a girl first, then asking if she would think about converting with me, but I think my prot friends would think I was dishonest.

>>607093

Faith comes first in all things.

>>607093

women are easily pliable and have no real interests of their own, save what their partner (or other sexually desirable potential mate) is interested in

so follow God and your faith, women will come later

>>607093

>any country in Scandinavia

>majority any kind of Christian

>implying

>>607471

obviously I meant the majority of Christians

>>607342

heretids :DDD

>>601589

QUALITY post. Thank you, anon.

>>608823

Haha. I'm actually 24, just really into music. Th-thanks though

Unrelated but just to clarify: touching boobs butt even with clothes ON is absolutely sinful and lustful, right? Had a convo about this with my protty friend and she, to her credit, doesn't do anything with clothes off and she doesn't let people touch her vageen but she makes out and lets them touch her breasts/butt, again with clothes on. This is the best compromise I've ever of but it's STILL a compromise (other good prot friend said she takes her top off and makes out with her boyfriend…they've been dating for years and will probably marry but still).

I feel like even the strong Christians among us (maybe because they're women) compromise, even if it's a "better" compromise than most alternatives, most can't seem to adhere to ONLY kissing on the lips (no tongue), NO making out, etc. For crying out loud. I know I'm flawed too but I've had the chance to do that with women and I've stuck to my faith. I understand choosing your own path is a masculine trait but it's getting insane.

in other news, CucklickMatch finally came thru and there's two women on my plate, one whose number I have and who I will be going on a date with when I get back from Portland, the other who I just started talking to but she's a waifu of sorts so…and there's two actually-serious-about-their-faith looking college gals from campus Mass/Bible study so pray for me, I'll pray for you

>>609087

Oh, to clarify, I did make out with 2 hot girls who weren't my girlfriend at all once, much to my extreme dismay and disappointment, but NEVER again. I have turned women down before and since because they did not align with God's will and would only get in my way.

>>609114

Kek. By that I mean one is majoring in Theology, have an innocent demeanor so far (girlish qualities), and the other plays the flute at Mass.

In other news, pray for me PLEASE because a torrent of temptation is assaulting me with this Latina prospectwho I met through CatholicMatch

>>609336

Sounds good, best of luck to you

>>608823

Are older people actually the "good ones" in America?

I can't tell since here in Germany (i know what you think and it's true) it seems that older people are very idealistic about muh progress and personal "liberty"

>>609343

What's left of the generations before the boomers are generally wonderful people, and wonderful Christians.

The rest are just grown-up hippies with way too much power.

>>609338

just shoot the shit a little bit, set up a meeting as soon as possible, don't be weird about it

you want to meet irl asap bc that way you know if she's a good fit or not

if not don't worry, on to the next one

>>609348

Thanks brother. Think I'm getting ghosted but there's like 4 broads on backlog so we're alright.

>>609338

Real life>texting

Personally I dislike texting before dating. The whole texting game makes me sick and ruins everything for me.

>waiting for reply

>waiting for reply

>waiting for reply

Every time the girl either uses her advantage to take too long to respond or she's too enthusiastic about it, writes too much.

The first leads to her having the upper hand, the latter to you having the upper hand.

That's what I dislike. I prefer to make a date as soon as possible - a phone call, texting if a call is not possible.

Meet her as soon as you can…if she's not what you're looking for, move on.

I was at the gym today and saw a girl who hasn't been to mass in a while, she awkwardly smiled at me a couple of times when I walked by, but it caught me off guard so I didn't smile back. Should have asked her why she hasn't been to church recently. Hope I get another chance and don't mess up again.

>>610063

At least you noticed her smiling, I look at girls' faces so rarely that I don't even know if they're even looking at me, let alone smiling. I have huge trouble with eye contact, I just can't bring myself to look at someone's face for more than 1 second.

>>610081

It's not intentional, I just can't help myself from looking. God didn't make these people for my viewing pleasure, but if there's something about her, I am captivated.

Though if there is eye contact, I tend to look away. Maintaining eye contact is my weakness. It is not easy.

>>610084

I've been alone so long I don't even look at girls anymore. I just assume it's a waste of time.

>>610087

I'm not sure what to say, I am no Stud or have experience of my own at getting girlfriends, but it sounds like I'm more confident than you.

Confidence to me is something which is inconsistent but I find that nofap helps a lot.

>>610094

It's not just confidence. I know I'm not ugly. It's more like my finances are very limited and I couldn't provide the girl with anything. And my family is all screwed up too. So why bother the poor girl at all.

>>610246

Do you know her parents?

Remember to approach this as a courtship situation, if that's your intention (sounds like it is).

I would mention off hand that you would like to have a coffee or a walk with her some time, and then on another occasion set a specific date for that. At the end of the first date, set a day for the next.

By this point, the both of you should have tested the waters enough that you can be upfront with her, mention that you've admired her for some time, and approach her with the intention to court.

Godspeed, she sounds lovely. Keep us posted!

>>610257

I know her whole family and they are great, just really incredible people. My views usually line up pretty close with people who push courting, but I don't really use the vocabulary because so often the people I've talked to about it have in mind only their particular brand of courting that has never been tried before. I see dating as only acceptable when the intention is marriage so long as things work out, and physical affection should be somewhat minimal and carefully approached in that time, so usually I'm not disagreeing with people when they talk about courting. If anything the thing that is most likely to some up that I don't go along with is some sort of arrangement with the father. I would like to be in good standing with her family and would probably talk to her dad first if I was thinking of engagement, but as two adults its kinda out of place to ask him to date her or something, maybe in highschool but now its weird. She came in to see me at my job a few days ago when she was stuck in the area for a few minutes, and she had to leave when I was pulled away with some customers so I texted her later saying that I was free to hang out most mornings now (until recently I had a schedule that changed wildly every week). She said something along the lines of that she would text me some time when she was free, but the hard thing is knowing if thats just being polite and will never happen or if it actually might. If that text never comes I'm more lost, but if it happens then I have something to work with. As you said the best thing would be to have a second meeting set up by the end of the first, but thats one more place things can go wrong. The idea I favor the most is going for a walk, I just don't know if I would be pushing my luck with that. The courting thing does have it's advantages in that it bypasses the problems of vocabulary I might have to deal with, but I haven't heard her use this terminology and I don't myself so it would be kinda foreign and forced and weird to keep up with. I really would just like to come out of some sort of talk with a mutual understanding of having an exclusive relationship with the intent mentioned above. One thing I'm worried about is the mentioning of my admiring her for a while. I'm not sure if I should downplay the reality of things or be more straight forward with how long I have liked her. It would all come out in time I just can't tell when it would be best to bring up that for the last nearly three years of my life she's been the one girl that I've actually thought of like this with little exception.

>>610273

>If anything the thing that is most likely to some up that I don't go along with is some sort of arrangement with the father.

Just to be clear in case I wasn't, here I'm talking about something that would come up in a conversation with someone who promotes courting, I'm not talking about something likely to come up with her.

>>610273

> I see dating as only acceptable when the intention is marriage

Good! Now it's also important that you make her aware of this, with a light touch so she doesn't feel like a coffee date obligates her to marry you. If your goal is to marry her, when you've won enough points, make that intention clear to her and to her family. I agree that courtship as a term carries a lot of baggage.

If she visits you at work again that's a good sign and a better opportunity. Tell your boss you're going on break and walk a few blocks with her.

There's a lot of implications that will come up if you mention that you've admired her without making a move for three years. Might be a good idea to tacitly leave out the three years for a while, and/or the idea that you'v liked her pretty exclusively for this time.

>>610280

>with a light touch so she doesn't feel like a coffee date obligates her to marry you

This kinda worries me, but I think it will come up pretty quickly if we did get together. I'm not sure how much to talk about stuff like this without asking her out, but the thing is that with her being her I'm really just not worried that I would ask her out and then find out her views of dating are anything but acceptable.

>make that intention clear to her and to her family

This I think would come in time, but I'm not sure how capable I am of doing this. As I mentioned above I am terrible socially and can really screw up even easier conversations. One thing I really would be excited about with her would be to have someone I could confide in a little more and talk to more comfortable if that did happen, but talking dating ethics with her family could be a little out there for me, at least at first, but I also kinda figure if anyone was really worried I would be approached, and I can always respond to that even if I don't expect it.

Work is tough to ditch right now, but she was really understanding in her texts so I'm not too worried, and if she did come around again I would definitely feel much more prepared towards asking her out.

>There's a lot of implications that will come up if you mention that you've admired her without making a move for three years.

I'm not planning on bringing that up real quick or anything, but it also is I think not as bad as it might sound as at least two years of that there are pretty understandable reasons for me not to have done anything

>>610296

I'm eager to hear of your success, anon. I too find it difficult to speak to others at times, but practice makes perfect. Make a point to engage people in conversation when the stakes are lower, even just talk to yourself in the mirror.

>>610311

Thanks man, I'll come back with whatever happens

>>610330

What anime is that silly webm even from?

>>610334

Problem Children are Coming Aren't They?

>>610263

kek, because there shouldn't be flutes at Mass? i feel the flute actually fits in with how Mass should "sound"…unlike any kind of guitar or most instruments that aren't piano/organ/choir

>>609921

No, not texting. Messages through CatholicMatch, kind of like emails. She hasn't responded so I'm going for one of the other girls. Thanks for the feedback all the same.

>>610285

Don't give up yet man.

>>610296

>visits your work

>texted you about seeing you again

Dude, get on this. Just go balls out and be casual- say something like "Hey how about we get a coffee sometime?" and if/when she says yes, say you'll text or call her for the details (if you talk to her at work.).

>>603987

So I finally got her number just last week. I'm really hoping I can get a coffee date with her relatively soon. In seven years of trying to find a girl who's wife material, I've only even been on one date, which came to nothing. I feel cheated out of much of my 20s.

This girl is really cute, part of CRU, and I just want her to be pious too.

Big issue, brothers. I think a classmate has fallen for me, but she's agnostic. I know the answer is a definite no, but is there any more to it than that? Very hard for me to say no, not sure how it'll go.

>>610526

Give her the Doctrine.

>>610526

Talk to her about God.

>>610526

If you love her, save her from the depths of hell.

Also 1.Cor 12-15 specifically talks about this, an unbeliefing wife is sanctified by the husband, since they are one flesh and the holy is superior to the unholy

>>610537

>>610546

>>610586

Thanks for the advice, I'll try talking to her about the Bible. I'll update here if/when that happens and let everyone know how it goes.

About to ask the girl I like out - both cute and pious.Normally I am not nervous when talking to girls but I really fell for this one.. so I do feel nervous even in advance.

Please mention me in your prayers so God gives me more confidence.

There's a girl I see at school a lot, usually several hours a day. Only person in a while I've spent 10 consecutive hours with and still want to be around them. Known her for several months but I'm 22 and never had a relationship so I'm at a loss.

>>610755

Do you talk to her? Ask her for coffee/lunch

>>610763

We talk a good bit, yeah. We have fun and joke around but I've never seen her outside of school. I've asked her to lunch and she'll say yes but then flake for one reason or another.

>>610801

If she's flaking out after saying yes then she doesn't want to go do anything with you and doesn't see you as you see her.

>>610858

Idk, I'm still optimistic. We both do almost nothing but school and work so I'll see about doing something over spring break, as neither of us are traveling. I'll just have to see from there.

>tfw have had bad experiences with online dating in the past back when I was an athiest

>tfw even in Christian dating sites, my prospects would still be poor, as I live in a very secular part of the country

>tfw the women that I DO go to church with are those in their late 20s early 30s with their families

All I want is a cute wife who will love me as I love her. I know it's uncouth to complain about stuff like this, but I just feel isolated and lonely, you know?

>>610755

It is either this >>610858 or she's playing mind games; in any case abort the mission.

>>611934

I feel you brother, I'm the same way - but it's not good to despair. We're all gonna make it anon

>>611936

>mind games

Do only white grills or American grills do this? I am talking with a Mexican woman literally off the plane as of 4 months ago who is working as a maid for someone's house (an au pair). She sends me good morning texts, apologized when there was a delay, resumes the convo the next day if I sent her a night one, frequently wishes me to have a great day, and there are never any mind-games at all. It is the first time I've texted a woman (I know I know, don't text, it's feminine…we text extremely lightly) where it's been 100% stress-free 100% of the time. And when we do text, she always starts it with "I hope you have a great day!" Anyway I really hope you lads can find one like this. She's normal and sensible, I can't help but think it's because she wasn't American up until 4 months ago lol. When I'm back in-state we have a date, pray for me and I'll get you.

>>611967

Ahhh, that's truly wonderful, lad! And wholesome! I am exceedingly happy for you, God bless you both! And bro, blogposting is the POINT of this board. How old are you both, if you don't mind my asking? That story put a smile on my face!

>>611967

ALSO sorry to triple post but I love that song!! Wasn't that made for Deadly Premonition? That's where I first heard it…Anyway cheers and Godspeed.

>that happened to you

>i have a couple nice-looking prospects on the horizon

>this fits that perfectly

Ahhh, feelin pretty alright

>>611968

I’m 27 and I dated a 18 years old gal; nothing wrong if you keep it clean.

>>611967

Was glad that it wasn't actually lewd content, thought for a moment you fell.

Put a smile on my face, was a nice story. God bless the two of you.

No progress with the girl yet, but I was thinking about something today and figured I would post it. Last night when I was working someone ran off with some product out of an emergency exit and the alarm went off. I'm not really supposed to, but when I heard the alarm I booked it to the door and when I saw the guy running I chased him down along the sidewalk and then around a corner down a bike path. I motioned to cars and got one to pull over a little and get him nervous, and with that and me getting pretty close to him he dropped the stuff and ran off. When I got back I got a little talking to and I did again this morning from someone higher up. The whole thing is how I shouldn't do that because it's unsafe and they could have had back up or a weapon and I could have been hurt or lost my life. Another thing happened yesterday earlier in the day. It was a week from the time that the girl I mentioned came to my work when she had free time and I thought maybe she would again so I was going to walk by the bus station just to see if she might be there. Right before I got to the bus station I turned around because I was worried she would be there and I just had no idea what to do, I didn't think I could play it off as an accidental meeting or put my balls out enough to say I was coming to see if she was there. What I've been thinking about is that I'm literally more afraid of approaching this girl than I am of getting the crap beaten out of me. There's been a lot of things in my life to get me to this point, but I'm still surprised and confused how I've got this screwed up. I just don't even know if there's any fix for this

>>611996

>I chased after him

Excellent. I am concerned for your wellbeing too, but you showed courage. Also, I wouldn't exactly say your being more afraid of a woman than getting beaten up is abnormal. Men are TERRIFIED of women, you are NOT alone. WAY MORE men are than you realize, WAY MORE men than lead on.

Anyway, maybe go there and if she is there, don't mention you were looking for her, but ask her to coffee? She'll connect the dots.

I kind of hate you anon. I know this is my problem and just reflects my own insecurity and sinfulness but this sort of post jus makes me upset. It just reminds me hoe far from ever meetig someone I am.

>>612012

>how far

Take a step closer today.

>>612026

Its my own fault for going to this stupid board…….

I just don’t know if I should even care about finding a woman…our society is rotten, we are hollowed, children are indoctrinated…plus personal sexual issues make me think having a family of my own would only cause sorrow.

>>612065

What issues? No matter the state of the world, most are called to be fruitful. If you are going to forego having children, do not do so out of convenience. God very well may be calling you to gird up your loins and take up the challenge. You will have to discern that in prayer.

>>612067

I suffer from Same Sex Attraction, I was raped and I’m mentally unstable. I’m surprised I still hold to this faith.

>>601567

>>601568

>Mostly for Roman Catholics, maybe you can away with identifying as "little c"atholic if you aren't a dirty papist.

REEEEEEEEEE NO PROTS AND ORTHOS WILL GET AWAY WITH STEALING /ourgirls/!

>>612073

There are almost only Orthodox girls where I work; I’d never dare to date one even if I was not a complete autistic guy.

>>612029

It’s your own fault for not doing anything with your life. And when you’re old and full of regret, it will be your own fault as well. So nut up, and start living now.

Should I feel bad if I settle? My kids won’t be all that they could have been.

Hey fellas

Could I get some prayer? Praying for all of you and and that you pursue a relationship with Christ in mind

Also, could I get a question answered?

I have feelings for a Catholic gal I know. We see each other a good amount for classes and such. I've been feeling this way for a while, and based upon how she acts around me, I seem to think she feels the same way.

Thing is, it's right in the middle of Lent for both of us. I've been considering waiting until after Easter, or maybe even waiting the extra week until Pascha has happened for me, to ask her out. My question is: should I wait? Or should I just pull the trigger? Every ounce of me is saying to go for it, but I still have an inkling that I should wait. What would you all recommend?

>>610330

>>611967

Glory be to God! I'm glad that you're already having a fruitful relationship! I'll keep in prayer for you. I'm sure you know this already, but never forget who you're really pursuing. Date her with Christ ever in mind.

Also general PSA to the other Orthodox in thread, I've found that St. Xenia is very helpful, and her intercession has been a valuable thing in pursuing a relationship. I've found she answers prayer VERY quickly

>>612068

Damn….Forget what I said, that's perfectly understandable. You are probably not called to a family because that worries me about your wife (you don't want to explode at 40 and have this horrible divorce happen, etc). I am very sorry that happened to you and commend you for somehow being able to still have faith despite that wretched thing. I'll pray for you.

As for vocation…Do you study at all?

>>612144

I think you answered your own question, good lad.

>>612169

>Could I get some prayer?

Absolutely, on the double!

>>612169

Also meant to say YES GO FOR IT. WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? Lent isn't some magical "put off opportunities right in front of you :)" time for dating, GET ON THAT.

>Every ounce of me is saying to go for it

YES THEN GO FOR IT. THERE IS A VERY GOOD CHANCE THAT FEELING IS TELLING YOU EXACTLY WHAT YOU SHOULD DO

>>612169

why wait to live. nut up

>>612143

Jokes on yoi, I am already old and full of regret

>>611989

how did you approach her? was it at church?

>>613151

Pastor Anderson was 19 and his wife 21 when they married.

Semi-related to the topic of this thread (since it's about a girl) so I'll post here so as not to clog up / bump other threads with an irrelevant post / query, but;

How can I, as a Christian, deal with the jealousy and anger I feel towards my brothers in Christ, seeing their success in finding partners whilst I'm left stranded and alone.

Before I'm written off as r9k / aspie sperg hear me out

>be in current church for two years

>meet a qt girl in my bible study group last year

>seems nice, very quiet but in a cute way

>chat every now and then at bible study, but she always seems quiet / distant when talking with me

>half way through last year I volunteer to help lead the friday night youth group since they need more leaders

>turns out she leads there too

>chat more often but she still seems cold and distant for some reason, gives short answer responses that aren't really open to continued conversation

>always seems much more animated / engaged with other people whenever talking with them

>fast forward 6 months

>start of this year

>over the past 6 months I developed feelings for her

>had the guts to ask her out for lunch

>she makes sure other people come too so that it isn't too much like a date

>same thing happens subsequent times I ask (am I a cuck?)

>still acts cold and distant towards me

>new guy at church begins attending regularly after visiting twice or three times over a three month period

>the two of them hit it off

>she seeks him out to talk to him after each service rather than being the usual fly on the wall and waiting for someone to talk to her

>he starts leading at youth group

>instead of getting involved with the kids and running activities he spends all his time standing at the side talking to her

>he's been at the church for two months and I found out tonight she's started giving him lifts too and from church / youth group even though he lives out of the way for her

Alright after typing it all out I do seem like a major sperg over the whole thing, but after finding out that piece of information tonight I've just been seething with a mixture of jealousy, anger and frustration over the whole thing. I know I shouldn't feel these things, particularly being caused by a fellow Christian whomst I should love as a brother, but the fact that she's still acting distant towards me (and nobody else in the congregation it would seem) while warming up to him so much to the point they're travelling to and from church / youth group together, not to mention how he spends the time that should be dedicated to ministering to and mentoring the teens at youth to chat her up I'm just fed up with it all.

How can I deal with this?

/rant

"man I wish I had a trad wife"

>watches anime

>plays video games

>reads comic books

>>613168

>How can I deal with this?

You move on, what else can you do?

For whatever reason, you two were incompatible and she wasn't the right one for you. You could look at the situation from a different angle and actually be glad this new guy entered the scene, he probably saved you from another few months of getting your affection rejected and your time wasted. If in the past few weeks you've prayed to God for finding a wife then I'd say He actually answered your prayers, just not in the way you had expected. You're now completely free to again pick up your search for a (more) suitable partner. Who knows what will happen this month?

>>601567

I've given up on finding a girl here, period. I don't care anymore, and overseas is the only option. I've used every utility available to me, and they've all given only dead ends. I'm an attractive guy, but as soon as the words Christian or Catholic go out my lips, you can see the instant descision to not meet again on their face.

I am going to make money. I will retain my celibacy since that is holier than lust. I'll keep making money for the sake of making money, and then I won't enjoy it. I'll throw it to the church, since they can make good use of it. That will be how I live my life. I've heard enough complaining from my friends and family about finding a girlfriend. I've searched for five years, and now I just don't care. St. Paul said the celibate are holier than those who have had sex so I shall be holy then.

>>613191

Sorry for the edgy comment, I just needed it out of my system

>>613191

Self improvement is the only way you will ever get a wife. Perhaps God sees you are not yet prepared.

Only thing you can do to attract a holy woman, is to keep striving to be a better Christian.

>be me, at church

>just had confession and trying to pray a couple of decades before mass begins

>two girls come in and pass by

>one is a cute tall half black chick

>while I pray, I sense she keeps on looking at me

>throughout mass she keeps glancing at me every few minutes

>can’t find the courage to even look at her

>mass ends and I kneel down to pray

>while she leaves, I can see from the tail of my eyes she is still looking at me

I’m gonna fix my life before I start thinking about women, but that felt so bad…

>>613213

Are catholic church services really 20 years apart?

>>613218

Ah ah, I forgot how to laugh…nah, it was an okay joke, all things considered.

>>613213

>>one is a cute tall half black chick

If you're white, then chances are she's easily into you because mongrels are probably into anyone who is racially pure and wants to cleanse her bastardized DNA with another pure (and superior) DNA. Don't fall for it, you have better options and just don't know that you have them.

>>613247

I’m Italian, purity is not something we can offer when it comes to genetics:^)

>>613261

Well, the Northern Italians have their Aryan genes still. We are all mixed in one way or another, but it is a difference when different white races breed and two completely different races. Anyways, if you're a Moorish half-nigger you have my condolences.

>>613264

I’m half-Ligurian half-Venetian

>>613267

Ah ah, I could use a Slavic girlfriend now that I think. My great-grandfathers on both sides had light eyes (blue on father’s side, gray on mother’s) and hair (red and dirty blonde).

>>613277

Slavic girls are qts

>>613279

Indeed: I work in a place brimming with Slavic and Valtoc girls…

>>613284

*Baltic (what a typo!)

>>613168

What the other guy said 100%. Your feelings of jealousy/frustration are normal but dont wallow in them. Feel them and move on. Yeah, you were basically screwed the second time she brought people with. Happened to me once lol and she didnt even tell me. Huge sign she doesnt see you that way and if shes acted that way to you the whole time, well bro thats a clear indication. Cant force her to like you, itll be natural. And you want it to be natural. It seems like a catasrophe now but it is a gigantic blessing in disguise, especially with the other guy full on bulldozing his way through with what sounds like 0 resistance.

>>613169

Kek this is a good point (as someone who does all 3) but its fine as long as you actually do other things too (church/Christian things/school/job/fitness/boxing/etc). Its just balance.

>>613367

nice b8

>>613373

>implying it isn't true

OPPOSITES ATTRACT IS A MEME.

>>601567

Could you please go into greater detail about this one point of yours?

From personal experience I find that I am attracted to women who have traits that I wished I had or had to a stronger degree.

When I look around at marriage´s, the ones where they are well in their 40-50s and still married, I find that they are to some degree opposites. One is more loud/social, one is more quiet. One likes to joke, the other one keeps more in the background etc.

I do not want more of myself when I look for a woman. But I do think that happens naturally because of the inherent difference of man and women.

But I'm very curious to hear what you or other mean by the statement in the beginning of my that: OPPOSITES ATTRACT IS A MEME.

>>613325

i see no problem in playing vidya once a week after work is over or watching anime during breaks, just keep it to yourself tbh, its all balance and maturity

>>613414

Not OP and not a Chad with bags of dating experience but what I can say is that I seem to recall reading women are wired to be attracted to and seek out guys with an immune system that has the opposite strengths and weaknesses to theirs so they get the best of both worlds is passed onto the offspring. I do recall it being disputed when I mentioned it before (but don't remember the info being presented as if it were only a theory/not proven) but the way women picked up on it was through the dudes pheromones/BO/scent.

This leads onto other info that could go into the OP of the next thread (for someone with time to look into it and find sources and draw conclusions - not me atm sorry):

Biologicially, a man's scent plays a big role in attracting the right women, so maybe someone with more time can look into it but put in some advice which might end up being something along the lines of "when using deodorant, don't use anti-perspirint variety." lol idk.

>>613435

Thank you for answering. I have also read something similar, but I do think that going with the whole "attract women by using information based on evolution" thing is a bit silly. Especially when you go as far as pheromones/ scent etc.

There are much more efficient and better ways to self improve than worrying about when to use deodorant or not. Just my 2 cents

>>613445

No probelm bud, polite of you to thank which I appreciate. My two cents is that there's no need to bring evolution into it, and that we should be using every God given means (which is what scent, pheromones, biology etc is!) to make sure we're able to attract the mate best suited to us and we're best suited for them - think of the following - because the pill messes things like this around, some experiments were done where women separated from their partners for a week kept a shirt of theirs to smell. Women on the pill (which messed with their bodies ability to pick the optimum mate relating to their immune system) were offended by their partners natural scent whereas those not were loved up. Why would you not want to take advantage of the fact you have a natural way to woo the good and shoo the bad in your arsenal for free given to you by God? Why would you not want to make sure that the odds of getting a qt who is turned on by your natural smell rather than turned off is high?

>>613445

>>613453

If you guys haven't been lifting and eating a very clean diet (including cutting out milk etc), start doing it since it will improve your hormonal profile, pheromones, and of course your looks. There are no downsides to being healthy.

>>613552

When you approach just say you wanted to meet her, ask her questions about her and this will help her think that you know about her which

will build trust and knowing with her. take it slow and just get in the position where it is respectful and kind to talk but even just forcefully

going up to her will work, i have done it many times and it works just fine.

>>613553

It's a good point, thanks. I try to eat clean mostly (although haven't cut out milk completely - with nutrition there's so much conflicting information and back and forth) but haven't started exercise yet. I intend to do bodyweight stuff at first (not sure if I'll ever move onto proper lifting at all).

>>613553

Agreed; but which foods (other than milk, junk food and sugar, wheat and salt) should I avoid?

Is soy as bad ass I heard? I am not sure if it's just a /pol/ meme or a true T-killer.

>>613677

From what I've seen I think it might be a meme and even if it is a T killler it's on a technicality that in practice makes no difference. yes I watched all 30 mins of that insufferable lad doing 'soy boy exposed' posted here a while back. Having said that personally I never have eaten soy stuff much so will continue to not.

I think the key thing with diet is to not worry about it too much, God has given us many wonderful foods available to us in the modern/western world, so we should just concentrate on getting a good balance of everything (everything that is healthy, that is, but even then one takeaway a week shouldn't be anything to worry about). If we eat good generally our God given bodies will do what they'll need to do that is right for us as individuals. No need to obsess over maxing t through artificial means (including going nuts/exteme over diet) or anything imho.

What's bad about wheat? I eat wholewheat pasta for some meals from time to time and love it.

>>613279

Gotta confirm. Slavic girls are of the finest sort.

>>613552

If there's some community around the church where those girls hang out, go there it will be easier.

How do I approach girls after mass? How about something like: 'Hi my name is Anon.' as a starter, then talk about what caught your attention during the mass - sermon, ask her what she thought about it etc……or talk about something happening around you.

Some casual talk will do.

It will become easier once you get off the 'must impress this girl' mindset and you get 'I just want to talk to this girl' mindset.

>>613553

This.

I had serious problems talking to girls. Approaches terrified me.

When I started working out, eating healthy, read something about 'the game' - just to know how attraction works, the problem kind of solved itself.

>Clean food

>sleep

>work out

>game knowledge

>Prayer

you cannot go wrong with these

>>613694

Are there any /Christian/ approvedᵗᵐ sources on game? (i.e. focus is on finding a wife and not endless pussy)

>>613697

I read these three blogs from time to time.

>https://deepstrength.wordpress.com

>https://donalgraeme.wordpress.com

>https://dalrock.wordpress.com

I especially recommend this article by donal graeme. Big wake up call.

https://donalgraeme.wordpress.com/2013/10/28/shattering-the-delusion/

>>613699

I've been aware of Dalrock, been meaning to go through that at somepoint, didn't realise it talked about game just thought it was more a general blog against feminism modernism etc. Ty v much for that and the other two links pal will check em all out.

>>613694

Now what if all the qts at your parish only attend with their family members? Chatting up a girl might already be a bit tough, but to do so in front of her 6'4 carpenter dad and four older brothers is a bit too much for me.

>>613712

Get in good with the dad then talk to her. If things go well, ask him for permission to court his daughter. Trad dads love that kind of thing.

>>613737

Excellent point: exactly what my uncle did when he wanted to marry my aunt.

>>613752

> But, how could I bring myself to have any kind of erotic love for another person? They are made in the image of God. To lust after your wife is still to lust after something that carries the divine image, isn't it? Then how can lust be ever justified in a married relationship?

To be attracted to your wife isn’t lust. Making children is supposed to be enjoyable. It is good to procreate (legitimately!), and it is good to strengthen the bonds of your marriage. Sex is not inherently evil, that is a gnostic concept. So long as it serves its intended purpose it is good.

Hebrews 13:4

Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

>>613769

I don't understand why sex can be a holy thing though. We already give ourselves up one another, do we really need to defile ourselves with this disgusting stuff? Again, she is made in the image of God - how could I ever have intercourse with something so holy?

>>613752

I should also add that celibacy in marriage is indeed a rarer virtue than even regular celibacy. It requires both partners to be fully committed to the idea. One partner being unhappy being celibate could mean tragedy. Before you marry her, think about what she might be expecting if she marries you, and whether she might be disappointed by a life of celibacy.

>>613772

Sex is holy because it's a vestige of the Creator aspect of our being: it's one of the things we can do to create life and bring more followers of God into the world. All within the sacrament of marriage of course.

>>613772

> do we really need to defile ourselves with this disgusting stuff? Again, she is made in the image of God - how could I ever have intercourse with something so holy?

I think you need to re-asses why you think sex is disgusting. Possibly this reflects your disgust at sexual sins earlier in life. You’ve done a great job defeating lust, however in doing so you have picked up a revulsion to all sexuality. Sexual sin is bad because it is a misuse of something very special that God gave us, not because sexuality is evil.

>>613777

>>613774

Intercourse requires passions, and we are supposed to avoid those completely.

I was told that we do not suppress the passions but rather redirect them to the service of God, but how can one have intercourse without misusing the passions (in this case, without lust or pleasure)? I can see how this passion can be redirected toward God - by aiming toward procreation and raising children rather than by consommating pleasure and demeaningly degrading the body - but if it is to also be in sin at the same time, it's rather counter-productive.

>>613782

There is nothing wrong with feeling passion or other human emotions, it's just important that we don't let them rule us and rule over our devotion to God.

>>613782

Have a good old read of this again anon

Hebrews 13:4

Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

Paul is saying here that marriage is good, in fact that it is very good. Indeed, he is talking about the purity of a faithful marriage. This tells us that there is no inherent sin in marriage. Keep in mind that Paul believed that celibacy was greater than marriage. He was a great advocate of celibacy, for those capable of celibacy. And yet he still told us of how great marriage was as well. Paul did not build celibacy up by tearing down marriage. Rather, celibacy was even greater than something that was already very great.

Honestly anon, it might be possible that you are very suited to celibacy. If so, I would suggest strongly against marriage unless you can be certain that this girl is equally as committed to celibacy. It also might be possible that celibacy is not for you, and you simply need to rethink your attitude to sex.

>>613794

I know that marriage is good. I just can't figure out why. Sure, there is reproduction, and intercourse is unitive, but how is the act of intercourse itself not burning with passions and lust?

>>613791

>there is nothing wrong with feeling passion

We have to be passionate about prayer and such, of course, but we have to reject not "passion" but "the passions." Galatians 5:24, Romans 7:5, Colossians 3:5

http://orthodoxwayoflife.blogspot.fr/2009/07/what-are-passions.html

>>613712

I don't think anyone would take offense or become hostile if they see a respectable and decent young guy having a lighthearted conversation with their daughter/sister. This is only a problem if you're some lowlife good for nothing, if you obviously have nothing to offer (if you're a loser), or if you're harassing her.

if you're in good standing within your church community, are financially stable/responsible, take care of your hygiene, have a little bit of social skills (aka confidence) and don't come across as a boring creep, then I really don't think it would be a problem.

After all, since you're engaging in a conversation with her after church, you're at the very least a huge step ahead of all the guys who don't go to church (if the dad is serious about his faith).

>>613924

>tells people to not ingest "what humans have invented"

>shills a retard who sticks himself with steroids at every opportunity

yeah nah get out of this thread

>>613928

sorry hes /ourguy/ i gotta shill for him, im natty and hes helped a lot

>>613933

He's not "/ourguy/" he's a waste of air who thinks he's hot sh*t because he can bench 3pl8 with one inch of ROM and abysmal form

Don't waste your time on losers like him, anon

>>601567

You had me until you sad that whole thing about height. There isn't a "correct" Christian height, you're putting the physical in the way of the spiritual. Stop it. Pray, and try again tomorrow.

>>613264

enjoying the LARPing, /pol/?

>>614199

>later cuddle up on my bed, fall asleep in each other's arms

You are putting yourself in huge occasions to sin. This is no joke, and I don't think you will remain chaste.

>>613772

ReeeeeEEEEEEEEE SEX IS LITERALLY WHAT YOURE MEANT TO DO AND DESIGNED FOR AND IS NOT DISGUSTING

Dude were part animal. God does not say to cripple your ability to pop a stiffy but to use that and allow yourself to get turned on at the proper time, ie, on that momentous honeymoon.

>>613782

REEEEE MARRIAGE IS EXACTLY THE CONTEXT YOUR PASSIONS ARE DESIGNED FOR. Its said to avoid passions because they easily lead to sin. Sex in marriage is NOT sin!!!! REEEE you have swung too far the other way, you have an unhealthy and unproper, unholy view of sex my dude

>>613798

Lust is only lust outside of marriage. Those passions themselves are NOT BAD. There are just a million ways to get them wrong and one way (marriage to get them very right). God designed you to feel that way. It is natural!!! You have mastered it, which is what youre supposed to do, but dont let Satan trick you into thinking they are bad of themselves now

>>613697

Tough one. I was bothered I did not find any of those. I had to go through 'Roosh V - day bang' and similar material - his blog, etc to get the idea how attraction works. His books are not /Christian/ approved at all so I had to go with 'take good leave the bad' mindset - it payed off eventually.

Do I use the exact phrases/lines? No.

Do I try to pickup girls right at streets? No.

Do I seek a girl for sex? No.

I detest 'the game' hook up culture but I realize I need some level of game (what i mean by that is just simple masculine behavior) to attract future wife.

I recommend checking out his books/material with leaving the useless hook up things there, taking the good from it.. They made me reconsider my approach to things, made me more confident in myself.

I learned that first I need to be myself, be confident, do not put the woman on the pedestal etc. Most of those things are just common sense when I look back at it but I was completely useless before reading about it.

>>613168

You have to move on. God has a plan for you. That girl might not be suitable for you. It is difficult to let go once you tie yourself to someone like this.

But you should do it. You never know…the right girl might be just around the corner, few weeks from now you meet her.

Stay strong, trust in God's leading.

Pray.

>>614507

I met my current girlfriend on tinder. if you go the online route, put "Christian" as the first thing in your bio and be extremely careful with who you match with. It may take longer, but your results will be much better than if you simply swiped right on every girl with a pretty face.

>>614523

>Translation:

>"I got my money by winning the lottery."

>"You can win too if you're careful with your spending habits."

I mean yeah, you could win the lottery just as you could find a nice qt pi Christian girl on Tinder, though I still wouldn't recommend using Tinder or the lottery.

>>614525

I see your point, but for those of us who live farther away from the more populated areas, the only viable online options are those that are extremely popular. I made the assumption that the anon I replied to is in a similar geographical situation as he mentioned living in the midwest. Aside from Chicago, Detroit, and Kansas City, there are few populous areas.

>>614527

>the only viable online options are those that are extremely popular.

I suppose your right. Tbh, Just wanted to funpost at your expense. :^)

>>614507

I go to a church filled with single qt traditionalists. What is wrong with me? Good luck to you brother.

>>614520

>Kate Marsh cosplay

dream wife

>>614507

don't call yourself an incel, be proud of your celibacy, trust me your future wife will appreciate it.

>>614672

>also, is it ever better to wait to be older and have my career/degree as an engineer or try to get a gf asap, being 21? the girls at my church are all 16-17 maybe 18.

Wait until you have a steady income before you marry, but secure one of the gals you like and commit to each other or else all of those gals will be taken. You need a steady (and good) income when you're married because that's when you're allowed to sleep with one another, but you are not allowed to use any kind of birth control, so when the kids are popping out it is good to be prepared.

>>614674

girls dont like ugly incels. in fact, i bet even devout christian girls think virign men in their 20s are weird. im one of them, im with that anon. only god can love me.

>>614775

Not necessarily. If you are a virgin by choice theyre cool. Gird up thy loins.

t. 24

How do anons here deal with the despair of being alone and unmarried?

I'm early 20s and never had any relationship before or even held hands with a girl and it's getting to me in a really bad way and I'm getting real sad about it. This is further amplified by how there just seem to be no decent women that I can find and I don't know where to even look.

I've tried online dating with very little success, and the good ones are extremely long distances away and even then they always stop talking eventually. My Church is relatively large but there's only two women my age (a year or so younger) - the first is engaged and the second has been with the same guy for six years and he won't propose to her which infuriates me. All others are way too young or old.

I'm running out of patience and ability to wait, and praying doesn't seem to help matters at all, which intensifies the despair. When I was fresh at this Church last year I started praying for help to meet a perfect, feminine, pretty, kind, caring woman and I did and she and started hanging out a lot (but it was girl #2 above and I only later found out she was taken).

I don't know a way forward from here anons, and I don't know how to clear my head of all these intrusive thoughts that I'm going to be alone forever. I couldn't handle that.

Sorry for blogpost, I don't really have anyone offline to get this stuff off my chest to either.

How is it that there are so many more autistic incel men than there are woman. I'm no egalitarian, but it still seems weird just how different men are from women in this way

>qt azn receptionist at work

>wears a cross necklace and very friendly

>always says goodmorning and waves

>add her on normiebook

>she's married

why

>>614927

If I have to die alone, then I'll die alone; the only thing I should fear is dying away from God's love due to my sins.

Humans, and thus me above everything, are flawed and only grasp the true nature of Love, not the "love" so often spoken in this world. God came to earth and died a terrible death to testify this Love, of which He's the source Himself; it took me many years and many more books (among which the Bible itself and great texts explaining the many symbols and "hidden in plain sight" messages woven into it) to understand that simple truth, that ours is a God of love above everything, something which even the Jews refused to accept and they came to hate so much they wanted Him dead on a cross (a punishment dished out to political enemies by Rome, for they did not even wanted to remember Him as a preacher and a teacher, thinking He was just that…).

Praise be to the Lord!

I'm the fella from >>612169

She said yes! Planning a date soon. The Lord has truly blessed me with this. Thank you all for your prayers and advice

>>614902

really you sure? i have rejected sex before. i guess im ok. im just being really down on myself. pray for me please.

>>614927

to be quite honest lad you need to be closer to your faith. whats the point in all this? you will die and be judged someday. you need to stay chaste all the same, even if it is harder without a wife. you need to do something to not feel lonely besides looking for a gf. im in college, i read and go to the gym as often as i can, i cook, i go to mass every week at least and try to be involved in my faith although its not that much. in all this, i no longer feel lonely or even tfw no gf, i just feel shitty because i beat myself up sometimes about being a failure as a man and not fulfilling my vocation.

>>615250

Absolutely. In fact as far as I can tell, religion is literally the only reason women (and people in general) find acceptable. That is good you rejected it, youve been tempted greater than I. This one PUA site actually touched on this in an article. He said someone about 3 "types" of masculine me you can be, and "the holy man" was one of them. He didnt explain it because, as he stated, the website is about scoring as often and as soon as you can, so he was guessing not a lot of religious guys browsed his site (in which he is almost completely right). I know what he meant though: to be a masculine "holy man" is to be 100% uncompromising in your faith, definitive and confident in your decisions and course of action, and deeply passionate about what's right by God with an iron determination and resolve to carry it out. The general PUA rules apply- man must lead, etc, which fits right into the holy man type quite nicely. Obviously lots of PUA stuff is useless garbage but that site was pretty level headed all things considered, and had some good general advice if you so happened to miss some basic stuff (which most men do).

>>615276

wow that sounds like something i can genuinely be. i just need some more confidence and to get out of the rut ive been in this week. i didnt know this was an archetype much less one i can live. thank you anon.

>>615166

This is great! I'm very happy for you

>>614968

>>614969

>>615089

>>615250

Thank you all for the words, anons.

This whiny tier post is going to feel excruciatingly attentionwhorey to write and presumably to read but I don't know who else to talk these things out with. Every day I wake up in is another I wish I wasn't alive for. A shrink diagnosed me with "moderate depression" almost a year ago now. I harm myself unnervingly regularly. I want to end my life and the only thing that's keeping me going is that when I was about 15 I told myself if I hadn't managed to find a wife or even a gf by the time I was 30 I would kill myself on that birthday. Yes I know it's all stupid and a complete and utter sin and it's pointless but I can't deal with things any more. I keep bottling things up without a release valve. The shrink told me if the diagnosis doesn't clear up within six months that we should talk again about SSRIs and other chemicals which I detest and refuse to want anything to do with, so I didn't go back. I remain convinced that the only thing left that has a chance of making me any better is having a good and pretty woman wrap herself around me and tell me she loves me. But that won't happen anyway so oh well.

I lift heavy things and people tend to notice I'm strong and comment on it. Women have called me handsome in the past amongst other compliments. I'm studying a high calibre STEM subject that's basically guaranteed to land me a solid job where I could highly likely support a stay-at-home wife. I go to Liturgy every week and pray every night. When necessary I abstain from the Eucharist until I get a chance to get to Confession usually as a result of hurting myself. I see people out and about with their spouses or girlfriends every day and it troubles me greatly, especially when I would be better for her than him which logically doesn't make any sense. Why does someone who has a lot less going for him get/deserve a relationship? Why do I deserve to be so alone? I'm probably missing a lot of spirituality here but I don't know where to begin with anything. I don't want to speak to a shrink or my Priest and I don't know what help I could even get from anyone. I see pretty girls at the gym or in class or on the street and it hurts me significantly - I seem to be utterly cursed because every time I approach one and start talking to her, she's always taken, or more rarely has no time for me. The desire for a wife and for someone to love me burns me terribly inside every day and it won't stop.

I'm really sorry for the blogpost (saged also because blogging a gay) - I just wanted to get this out. Please don't pray for me, I don't want you decent anons to waste your time. It's okay to ignore this post also I won't mind I promise.

>have traveling job

>get sent to Taiwan

>qt Taiwanese girls everywhere

>constantly checking me out

>devil tempts me, but I remember

"Fornicators will not enter the kingdom of heaven"

I have a qt gf I met back home at church who patiently waits for me to get back home and I love her a lot but the devil tries very hard to tempt me. But I must stay chaste and faithful and follow God's willl or else I don't even deserve to have any gf.

>>615286

How about reading th Bible together - small amounts, you reading it, she listening…that wouldn't go well?

If there's some community around your church..young people, organizing events…I would definitely take her there under 'it doesn't matter it's religious' pretense.

Once women are a part of collective that values certain positions, the woman is more receptive to those thoughts.

That's what I would do…choose some interesting event, take her there so she feels at home among other Christians.

All right personally I thought those 'overly religious gf' memes are just memes that do not translate to real world.

I've met an amazing girl just like that. Goes to church,loves scripture study, really beautiful…

Please pray for me so I don't screw this up it seems like I do have solid chances.

>thread about relationships

>no mention of this

Love is obedience.

>>615593

>have a qt gf I met back home at church who patiently waits for me to get back home and I love her a lot but the devil tries very hard to tempt me. But I must stay chaste and faithful…

Based! Keep up the fight for God and your qt pi. Praying for you.

>>615608

And you too!

>>612222

I like to read; my dream is go to University and then teach in high schools.

>>614244

>>614242

How can I have lust within marriage, when I don't have it outside of marriage?

>>615280

Absolutely! Atta boy! I am glad I actually managed to be of use (thanks be to God)! I'll pray for you.

>>615644

Okay then! You may not be called to the priesthood but to celebate life? I do not want to push anything on you but teaching is noble. I myself just bought a ton of books.

>>615647

You do not feel sexual attraction for women? I apologize if anything I said before was undermining how you feel.

>>615677

>You do not feel sexual attraction for women? I apologize if anything I said before was undermining how you feel.

As I've said above >>613772, I do not feel sexual attraction for my girlfriend anymore. That is a good thing - lust outside of marriage is a grave sin. But how am I going to feel lust for her in marriage now?

>>615677

It’s just so hard for me to…believe I can achieve anything in life. I’m aware it’s a bad and sinful habit, but it’s hard to give it up after so many years living with it as my sole companion…

>>615680

Bro you should feel sexual attraction for your gf before marriage, you just dont let your mind wander there/control yourself. You know? Because as you said, its not like youll be magically sexually atracted to her on your wedding night. Sexual attraction is natural but it is what you do with it that matters (before marriage don't entertain it or indulge in it, which takes willpower to focus your mind on something else and help from God).

>>615682

I am not sure if that is sinful but I will say, as you probably know, satan is the one who causes/wants you to despair/think youre worthless. Well youre not. You might need to give yourself some time, don't feel like you need to magically be at 100% asap. Emotions are fragile and don't work like that. There is much you can do on Earth and for the Kingdom.

>>615687

Sexual attraction is lust. It also objectifies the body of another person, the very image of God.

>>615689

>[Mere] sexual attraction is lust.

No it is not. You need to prove that via the Bible instead of adding to God's law based on your own philosophies and thinking.

>>615689

What the guy above me said. In fact parts of the Bible are VERY erotic. Not to mention "so and so laid with so and so" meant they banged (in love). We are not called to have sex only "out of obligation" for children in a miserable way, trying to deny the enjoyment of it. That is insane and tyrannical (from the devil). Rather the unitive (bonding in love in marriage) and procreative aspects must BOTH be present, which presupposes natural sexual attraction.

Thinking sexual attraction itself is evil is a gigantic heresy and tyrannical. Satan is either tricking you or you are severly confused (perhaps both). Allowing yourself to let your sexual attraction take over naturally is ONLY bad outside marriage. In which you can do with FULL respect and love of your partner. Just remember to not only think of them as an object (and again only ever in marriage).

>>615689

Also marriage in Christianity is literally the height of experience for mere creation (which implies sex). In Catholicism it is a sacrament. I understand your respect for those of us in the image of God but that is what marriage is for dude. Literally the point, the proper spiritual commitment, process, and context. You are applying a view of unmarital sex onto marital sex and that is not right, especially with how God says marriage is holy. There are constant comoarisons in the New Testament to Christ's relationship with His church (us, believers/disciples) to that of a groom and bride. Christian love and marriage is the most powerful created experience on the face of the Earth and is a very good thing.

>>613173

>>613323

>>614265

Thanks lads, I needed to hear that.

I really just lost perspective and got caught up in hoping that she would be the one, rather than understanding that God might have someone or something if marriage doesn't turn out to be my vocation else planned for me.

I realise now it's time for me to move on and continue praying and living a life glorifying to God, rather than getting hung up on these kinds of things. This is also a reminder to pray for humility I guess, something I haven't actually been doing recently.

Don’t forget to be thankful and always count your blessings.

>>614199

Careful man

>>615483

If you want to die anyway atleast try being a missionary or a monk

>>616135

Sometimes one gets frustrated by not being successful immediately. I know that pretty well.

What always helps me is to think of myself as of a soldier on a front. All you can do is to do your best where you stand and pray for the rest.

That's how I try to see it - do the best, even if the defeat comes it might eventually turn out to be a good deal thanks to God's leading. Indeed some 'defeats' are actually a great experience in the long scheme of things.

Anyone got any advice on getting over a long term crush?

>>616475

Don't try to think it through or what you could have done different. Just let yourself feel the emotions, they will pass. In the meantime try to take your mind off it by doing things you enjoy or useful things. Don't think about it anymore than you need to and when you remember it in the midst of doing something, just let it be and sit there in your mind and let it pass.

I have a good story today lads

>go to a friend's Church for Liturgy

>in a town I've never been in before

>keep seeing a qt eyeing me throughout the service, we make eye contact a few times

>Coffee hour

>her mother brings her up to me and a friend and introduces her since she noticed we're visiting

>acquire girl's phone number

>one hour later end up going with her and her mother into the town to be toured around

>buy coffee for the girl and myself

>checking out an antiques shop, the mother just sorta disappears

>aww yiss

>keep walking around with the qt, get to know her better

>she's into a lot of things I like - HP Lovecraft, movies, certain historical aesthetics

>she's a nice soul who likes to be around kids and animals and sings, paints, draws, and other super feminine stuff

>back of my mind want to slap myself since this seems too good to be true

>dropping compliments here and there, she's noticing

>just before I take her back to meet up with her mother, ask if she's single

>tells me that she just recently started dating her best friend growing up

yeah nah yeah nevermind it's not a good story after all - I got an initial bad feeling in my gut when she unlocked her phone and her wallpaper was her and some guy

I got her phone number but I never texted her and after that I probably won't since there's no point.

Fellas this is like the seventh or eighth time I've had a girl tell me she's already seeing somebody, and the second time I've found someone so ideal and seemingly good be completely unavailable. Every time this happens I believe more and more that I'm cursed to a life of loneliness. I don't think this will affect me as much as the previous girl which I got really invested in but it still sucks major ass and it's frustrating as all hell.

pardon the blogpost again fellas posts like this are pretty cathartic

>>616999

Did she seriously not mention the other dude for that long?

I hate women way too much, it's like they don't have any sort of empathy towards people they don't want inside them

>>616999

When girls say they are with someone it can be a shit test to see how you will cope with it. If girls see you all depressed when you find out they will know you're desperate but if you brush it off they can end up telling you later they arent or you just expose them. Most likely if they are christian they will will not lie

>>617067

Half tempted to agree except single girls who are just shit testing don't have pictures of themselves with some guy as their phone wallpaper

>>617027

I don't even think her mother was aware of the prior relationship since she took a picture of me with my arm around her daughter stood in front of a nice-looking building when we got out of the car in town so I was 100% convinced she was single, then I got slapped with the answer right at the end as we were going separate ways

>>616999

I lol’d; am I just too cynical?

Women and men hurt me many times over, yet the wounds left by the ladies are the deepest and most intolerable ones.

That feel when no loving, caring, God fearing wife.

Met a girl at a prolife march but she's a bit crazy.

10 [b]A wife of noble character who can find?

She is worth far more than rubies.

11 Her husband has full confidence in her

and lacks nothing of value.

12 She brings him good, not harm,

all the days of her life.

13 She selects wool and flax

and works with eager hands.

14 She is like the merchant ships,

bringing her food from afar.

15 She gets up while it is still night;

she provides food for her family

and portions for her female servants.

16 She considers a field and buys it;

out of her earnings she plants a vineyard.

17 She sets about her work vigorously;

her arms are strong for her tasks.

18 She sees that her trading is profitable,

and her lamp does not go out at night.

19 In her hand she holds the distaff

and grasps the spindle with her fingers.

20 She opens her arms to the poor

and extends her hands to the needy.

21 When it snows, she has no fear for her household;

for all of them are clothed in scarlet.

22 She makes coverings for her bed;

she is clothed in fine linen and purple.

23 Her husband is respected at the city gate,

where he takes his seat among the elders of the land.

24 She makes linen garments and sells them,

and supplies the merchants with sashes.

25 She is clothed with strength and dignity;

she can laugh at the days to come.

26 She speaks with wisdom,

and faithful instruction is on her tongue.

27 She watches over the affairs of her household

and does not eat the bread of idleness.

28 Her children arise and call her blessed;

her husband also, and he praises her:

29 “Many women do noble things,

but you surpass them all.”

30 Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting;

but a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised.

31 Honor her for all that her hands have done,

and let her works bring her praise at the city gate

I'm very torn about my life goals regarding relationships. I absolutely love my absolute freedom to do anything I want, no obligations, no hauling kids around, no worrying is my woman happy, do I earn enough, etc.

On the other hand, this one girl likes me and I guess it would be nice to have some intimacy. But I'm not sure she's Christian, she said she doesn't like kids, etc. I have no idea what to do, I can't even picture myself in a relationship or committing to someone. I'm in a constant dilemma and it's not good. Somehow, when it comes to women, I fear I will choose the wrong one, like my mom did with my dad. And that haunts me really, being stuck in a marriage like that.

>>616999

>cursed to a life of loneliness

You have to just move on when this happens dude, that's a gigantic leap. Don't despair.

>>616999

>bought her coffee

lol

>>617492

What's funny about this tho

>>617496

not a good idea for prospective dates. women think this is really beta

>>617498

It's beta to buy women you're trying to date anything other than some food now and then and it's an easy way to show off that you have enough money to not give a damn about dropping a few on a coffee

>>617332

If you don't know then pray and wait it out.

>>617507

I've been kinda doing that since I was 16, which was 10 years ago. I have always been very reluctant to enter relationships so I've never been in a real one. My parents were disfunctional and I don't want to risk my family being like that. Other people only caused problems for me I guess. I feel like I'll regret both choices, staying alone or getting married.

>>617500

most women will either see you as a provider or sexually attractive. buying them things right off the bat gets you a ticket to the friend zone

>>617686

things yes but I really really doubt it's the same way with a simple coffee

>>617687

if that's the one time sure no problem, but usually actions like that one is a symptom of a larger problem

im not doing to good guys. I think its my profile. it is a headshot profile in my room and nothing else haha and for profile description I just copy pasted a section of phenomenology of spirit

any tips on profile building?

>>617686

this is your brain on Roosh

>>617756

>phenomenology of spirit

Why did you choose something so stinky?

>>617757

Can't say I'm a fan of him or his work, but I am open to hearing your opinion if you would like to discuss further.

>>617686

give me a break, just dont worry about it

>>617332

>I absolutely love my absolute freedom to do anything I want

But think to yourself, do you actually use this freedom to its fullest extent? Are you using this freedom for the glory of God in every manner? Is this freedom the giving you the best way to sanctification?

> it would be nice to have some intimacy.

>I'm in a constant dilemma

It means, get married. You are not given the gift of apathia, nor is your sexuality damaged. You need to look for someone.

>she said she doesn't like kids,

Don't, that's a bad trait for a potential wife.

>>618345

bro, i'm looking out for you. it's hard to be masculine and christian, but interacting with women shouldn't be difficult. i want women to see you as sexually desirable, and down the line, a provider as well. i do not want my brothers in christ to sabotage themselves with beta behaviors (known or unknown). not that i am implying you are anything, but we must be careful with these sorts of things.

>>615642

Thanks for your prayers Anon.

If you care about update: got the number, we spoke several times. We will go to church together, then probably on a date.

Never met a girl this religious. It feels good but strange at the same time. So unusual.

>>618406

>Are you using this freedom for the glory of God in every manner?

No, but I probably wouldn't use marriage for that either. I mean, I'd try to go to church and to confession and not do evil and that, as far as I'm concerned, is good enough regardless of being married.

>You need to look for someone.

I'm 26 and I've been alone all my life. I can live without affection just fine, my brain is used to it because it has never experienced anything else. My problem with marriage is that I have seen that women are often a pain, it's a lot of work and I don't feel like doing it.

>Don't, that's a bad trait for a potential wife.

Eh, I figured. The reason I've been thinking about this girl is that she literally fell in my lap so I'm kinda trying to force myself to like her. I usually never deliberately look for girls. I have no idea where to meet them actually.

>>618451

>meet girls

Church and church groups, activities, etc. Im literally tripping over decent church girls with all the networks Im connected to, all Catholic too (I also am blessed to live in a densly populated suburban area by Chicago, with towns falling on top of each other).

>>618417 Believe me I read you loud and clear. I appreciate it and agree 100%, you just dont need to do silly gimmicks to attract. Women can sniff out genuine masculinity or PUA gimmick garbage immediately. Further, being Christian and masculine is NOT hard. Christianity is masculine. Its just been pretty softened up and feminized. Be uncompromising and you can actually be the "holy man" type of "alpha" for lack of a better word. You lead, they follow.

>>617500

>>617686

Agreed. When you overcompensate lack of confidence by buying things it will make you look terrible, beta by definition. Sometimes the girl might get the wrong picture. She might think you're trying to buy her attention, buy off her commitment. It's not wrong to take her out somewhere even early and pay for her. It shows you're not Scrooge.. but be careful so it doesn't look like 'I spent this much money so now she has to go out with me next time and I got her attention'.

That's a turn off for everybody.

Now even a walk is good for me on the first date - plenty of things to talk about, plenty things to see. There's less pressure. You're not stuck at some coffee shop, staring at one place all nervous about what to say. I had a walk date recently. It was a huge success

>Anon that was a great idea to take a walk. We have to repeat this. I have not done that for a long time.

It was great because:

>It was casual

>There was no commitment since it did not cost anything besides the time

>It was not that usual - since mostly guys ask 'would you like to grab a coffee sometimes?'

>There's still possibility to grab a coffee after the walk.

I’m going to be honest: I’m afraid of women; I don’t trust men, but women? I have an even lower opinion of them. I hate only myself more than how I hate women.

I had homosexual intercourse in the past just to prove myself I would never want a woman in my life; I am that afraid of them and commitment.

I’m now almost free of SSA and it’s afflictions, but I don’t know if I want to have anything to do with women.

>>618345

>>619482

>>618417

>Christianity is masculine

>Women can sniff out genuine masculinity

This!

Women have a sixth sense for this.

This is gonna be a long rant. If you're not interested in Masculinity/Christianity do not bother reading. Most thoughts will be taken directly from lectures by catholic priest that were very inspiring for me, but also from what I gathered so far by myself. Here we go.

>Issue #1: Bugman culture

The problem is society has become too feminized. Men softened. Instead of true masculinity we have those pseudo-masculine substitutions to feel masculine. Laying on the couch, playing video games, watching sports(not wrong by itself but it should not be end all be all). Not actually doing anything IRL besides that. This bugman culture is now rampant It is too sad to even look at it.

>Issue #2: fap culture

Pornography and masturbation further castrates our men by self-assurance in sexuality. Overpowered by our lust we've become too afraid to even speak to our women. Some men even accept when a woman takes charge of relationship - makes the first contact, sets up the first date, makes the decisions. I mean…where are we???

The church has somewhat resisted but slowly the poison enters the blood stream to poison our ranks. The poz is inevitable at some point.

>Issue #3: Feminism

Furthermore the traditional gender roles are mocked. Feminism, 'anything goes' ideas have been destructive since they've been deeply rooted to our mentality now. The woman has the sixth sense for masculinity because it is important that the man knows how to take charge. How to lead by example. Even some feminists will be interested in men who reject feminism because they naturally seek masculine men. They might not admit it to you or to themselves but that's how they're programmed.

>Issue #4: Mocking masculinity

Meanwhile our ancestors who created everything are being mocked for being 'backwards' or 'rudiment' in their ways. We live off their achievements destroying everything, disrespecting them when in fact we should try to be like them to preserve this all. In fact now we're not even a shadow of their greatness. The Christianity is masculine. Is there anything more heroic than martyrdom?

>Issue #5: Expecting women to act like men

Some men are impressed when women larp as men subconsciously thinking 'all right that means I do not have to put the effort to be the head of this relationship'.That's wrong and we should not encourage this. Women should be feminine, men should be masculine. No larping as the other gender.

>Issue #6: Men do not want to take the lead

There are guys who blame everything on women while not realizing that if somebody's expected to put a resistance to all this it is men.

Eve was tempted by the snake sure. But it was Adam who gave the consent as the head of family. Therefore the responsibility does not fall only on her but also on him. In fact he was the one that should have stopped it all. 'Our men are great. Women should put their thing together' fags are just annoying because this is basically a male version of feminism.

Sure we may blame those who create this environment. As just and important as it is to point that out it does not solve our problem however. The very first step in the right direction is to reject those modern lies. Instead embrace what our fathers valued. Try to implement as much as we're able to our lives, make it seem cool so others join in.

>Who should do it?

Men should be the first ones to take charge. Become masculine again. Men lead, women tend to follow. That's how it worked for centuries.

>>619505

This is a typical advice, but I'd like to add that men, who generally act masculine and share their Christian values get shot down. Maybe it is the country I live in, where it is femininized and pozzed beyond imagination, but women ingrained (to a lower or higher degree) that they should act like men, and confuse masculinity with the traits of whoremongers. Your solution might be good, if it weren't for the social circumstances we are brought up in. We are men, not some sort of master manipulators to change the mind of every woman we have taken interest into. Now, I know Sanderson's wife was a feminist and even in the Country of Sodom (Germany) of all places, and whatever he did to convert her, I'd like to know. Generally though, if a woman is older than 25, pursues a career and sniff out that she isn't a virgin anymore, than I lose all interest hence all femininity is gone. Some men become apathetic to women because - given where you're living - it is quite hard to find one with femininity and innocence.

>>619511

I understand. It depends on the circumstances a lot. My country luckily is not that pozzed - yet. There are issues creeping - masculinity = whoremongering, thot culture etc.

My goal is not to convert women I meet but rather change myself for better and by doing that find a woman I am looking for.

I do meet more girls of high quality now when I got back to church and generally I am somewhat optimistic.

Tbh I have no idea what it's like to live somewhere like in London or some other Babylon and I do feel for the guys who live there. But I do not see a way other than this: Doing the best and trusting the God to help you in the struggle.

>I don't like guys who put the woman first. They should put God first. What do you think Anon?

>Anon… are you going to church today? Let's go together.

>Anon let's read the Bible together.

>My peers are so infantile in their faith I am glad I can speak to somebody who takes the matters of faith seriously.

>Let's hang out.

If you told me this was a real girl, a cute one on the top of that I would laugh so hard a month ago.

Nevertheless this kind of girls still exists. I did not really believe it until now since those are the exact things I heard from her.

>>615611

Love is obedience to God. But respect is fear. Wives should respect their husband as they respect and fear God.

Ephesians 5:22-33

https://deepstrength.wordpress.com/2014/08/25/why-i-dont-respect-women/

https://deepstrength.wordpress.com/2016/05/17/why-i-dont-respect-women-part-2/

I've noticed something regarding sexual relations in Catholicism. Apparently, sexual relations are only permissible on a woman's infertile days and without a problem if you're going to procreate.

On the long run, this shouldn't be a problem, as carnal and not "pure" love ruins relationships in the long run, but sexless marriages have a high chance of divorce and the 'natural' method of anticonception is unreliable.

Don't know what to think, however, I might also not get married in my life and might get into a Dominican order.

>>619834

If you have self-control (a virtue) and will chastity of mind, don't get married, anything else is "higher" and St. Paul says it's better.

>>619843

Asceticism is a beautiful thing, and I'm naturally inclined to be at peace with solitude, so that's definitely an option.

>>619834

https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2016/12/21/like-a-rutting-buck/

>>618451

>No, but I probably wouldn't use marriage for that either.

See below, and more so, God will use your marriage to sanctify you, your spouse, your children, and anyone else you influence. Because Christian marriage shows Christ's love for the Church, it is a type of ministry.

>I'd try to go to church and to confession and not do evil and that, as far as I'm concerned, is good enough regardless of being married.

Those are good things too; however, those are things you do married or not married. I meant doing things like basically giving up your life, going to a dangerous region, and preaching the Gospel.

>I'm 26 and I've been alone all my life.

No excuse. Guess why. I'm 26 too. God willing, our marital and sexual loneliness might change quickly. Keep praying, keeping fighting, keep harassing that wicked judge like the righteous widow, and never ever doubt hope; because even if you give up, God will never give up on you.

>Eh, I figured

Thanks for listening! Let me clarify: disliking kids and child rearing is a bad trait for a Godly wife. See Mal. 2:15. Anti-natalism shows idolatrous priorities within the woman's heart, so like what you did, others should avoid such

>>619499

I would go to a Biblical counseling for the trust issues. You might be dealing with past, unresolved problems. You are right to distrust men to an extent, but only if you put your full faith in Christ; otherwise, you are merely harboring bitterness. Praying for you!

>I’m now almost free of SSA and it’s afflictions,

Praise God!

>>613414

Science shows that relationships where both man and woman share similar traits and interests are stronger and less likely to divorce.

telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/12170295/Relationships-opposites-do-not-attract-scientists-prove.html

>inb4 theguardian

They just reference the study done, strangely I read the abstract of the original study but can't immediately find the study in question. I think it goes without saying that adding in Christianity would strengthen the bond. I'm extrapolating somewhat but I consider that denomination matching would certainly help, but women are much more likely to align with your denomination than vice versa. Taking a curiosity to a trait you don't possess runs the risk of growing to resent the opposing position, which leads to a desire to control or change that trait in your partner. This in turn leads to friction, which may lead to the relationship dissolving. Why take the risk?

>One is more loud/social, one is more quiet.

What you're assuming is a 1/10 and a 9/10 in terms of a trait is actually a 3-4/10 with a 6-7/10. Spend more time with them and you'd see that.

>I do not want more of myself when I look for a woman.

Of course you don't, but to assume that a woman with a similar trait expresses that trait exactly as a man would is falling for the equality jew to begin with.

>>613191

>Dating heathens

Come on son

>Ignoring the advice on preventing burn out

Take some time off from searching, work on yourself, pray. She'll appear when you least expect it, so strive for actualization that they may meet you at your best. You'd make the Lord a liar if he didn't grant petitions at all. Perhaps you're not as aligned with His will as you are leading yourself to believe. You can do it, I was a full on MGTOW 2-3 years ago and the Lord exposed me for the charlatan I was.

>>614082

See above, opposites don't attract as much as you think. Go ahead and pretend I didn't suffix my statement with "to taste" to specifically preempt these weak rebuttals.

I LOVE YOU ALL, MAY GOD BLESS YOU FOR CONTINUING MY MISSION WITHOUT ME. PLEASE FORGIVE THIS MOMENT OF WEAKNESS, MY SACRIFICE FOR THE LORD IS COSTLY AS I TRULY ENJOY CONVERSING WITH YOU. I WILL MAKE A NEW THREAD WITH THE SAME OP POSTS TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION. I'LL BE BACK AFTER PASCHA, GODSPEED!

>>604388

>you can still receive the Eucharist as long as you confess right after because of the intent

No, this is absolutely incorrect. Do not receive in the state of sin.

>>631764

i.e. don't receive in state of mortal sin. Eucharist, of course, does cleanse us of all venial sin. If you are properly disposed (proper intention, no mortal sin, have fasted) do receive! :)

Does anyone have that image that was posted on this board I don't know if specifically in the threads of a man and woman man looked vaguely like a knight or a lord and was kneeling in a church with woman behind him a bit I think she was wearing a head covering. Please help me find this

>>610246

She doesn't feel the same way about you. You have oneitis. If nothing else works, try to move to a different town. You h

>>636346

How do you know this?

>>636372

God's revelation.

>>636351

get off your ass and find one

a lot of us already made it

>>636409

I think God might want me to become a monk (i.e. die a kiss-less, hug-less virgin).

>>636416

Stop trying to persuade others to become monastics out of self hatred

Monasticism should only be pursude out of love of God

>>636417

I don't think I'm doing that.

I don't understand where to find any type of women anywhere

On the streets its about 70% male 30% female

In church its about 80% male and 20% female

In bars its 90% male and 10% female

In clubs its 95% male and 5% female

Where the winnie the pooh winnie the pooh are these winnie the poohers?

>>636778

The land down under