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tbh, i would delete this thread. it may cause some weaker brothers to go and watch a film they would otherwise not watch, just because of curiosity

Last Temptation of Christ is pretty bad.

>>598934

Did you actually see the movie? It doesn't attack Puritanism. The family was kicked out of town. The movie shows what happens when you turn against your Christian brothers and sisters.

>>598934

Drag Me To Hell. It’s not only the most satanic, it’s also the most disgusting and worthless. It’s one of the only movies I’ve ever watched that I actively regret watching

I’d also kinda like to say Last Temptation of Christ, but I’d feel hypocritical. Scorsese is a guy who was raised Catholic but he feels a lot of spiritual confusion and a drawing to gnosticism. I was raised Catholic, but I have a lot of spiritual confusion and I did feel a vague drawing to gnosticism (but I’m over that particular draw). Honestly, judging him would feel like judging myself in this case.

>>598935

It’s not what goes in the mouth, but what comes out, that counts.

Pleasantville

>>598940

I thought Drag Me to Hell was good. It shows clearly the horrors of hell and the devil, and is a moral fable where the main character is punished for her role in usury. Granted it doesn't present Christ as a solution to her being cursed, but as a horror movie an easy answer like that would ruin the suspense. Also there's no gore or sex in the movie.

Last Temptation is evil. It strongly implies Christ was a hoaxer, accuses Him of building crosses to crucify His fellow Jews, and has Him condemn Paul for perverting His message. I don't get why some Catholics defend this movie just because Scorsese is supposedly one of them.

>>598938

Literally none of what the family prayed for/did revealed in any way shape or form a major heresy that they deserved to be punished for. It's just a flimsy filmmaker's excuse to get them isolated.

>>598946

I’m not denying that it’s portrayals are wrong and blasphemous. I just sympathize with the mindset that went into it, so I feel if I condemned it outright it would be hypocritical.

>>598938

>>598960

I don’t know why my IP changed

>>598934

>it attacks Puritanism

g o o d

>>598946

>It strongly implies Christ was a hoaxer, accuses Him of building crosses to crucify His fellow Jews, and has Him condemn Paul for perverting His message.

I didn't get the vibe that Christ was a hoaxer. It was shamelessy adoptionist and pushed the idea that our Lord was also just some other sinner, though. It did seem to imply that He gained spiritual power only after his baptism and seclusion in the desert.

And yeah the dig at "Paulianity" is trash. Why do modern people love trying to drive this wedge in?

American Pie.

VVitch was based on LSD induced experiences. The only Satanic goings-ons was the fictions a religious mind creates when its under the influence of moldy bread.

>>598977

Do you have the video?

>>599434

Not really from moldy bread, it's the Ergot fungus that grows on the grain, which results in the LSD being baked into the bread.

>>598934

your an idiot, this was great film and a real masterpiece. And im myself am a reformed christian (modern puritans). It really shows the way satan attacks people using their sin and how he breaks us down when we are alone. 10 out of 10 film.

>>598970

> g o o d

If Hollywood types attack a specific denomination of Christianity in a film or tv show, their goal or at least the effect is attacking all of Christianity. It doesn't matter if it's a denomination you personally disagree with significantly, they have no sympathy for your denomination either.

I haven't seen it myself but the movie Mother! made a big uproar here when it came out. The only big thing I could remember from that thread on it was the post about how during the movie a baby that supposedly represents Jesus is cannibalized to represent some twisted interpretation of the Eucharist and transubstantiation.

>>599481

Yeah it’s very anti-Christian, and as well as generally anti-theistic. It implies that God carelessly allows humanity to do a whole bunch of evil things, including killing His Son and ruining the environment, and that God is too self-absorbed to properly deal with humanity. It’s a weird combination of hatred for God and at the same time a weird idolatory of (Mother) Nature.

>>599476

>your an idiot

Irony…

>>598934

The Last Exorcism Part II and II. Terrible movies, especially for Part II where apparently the power of Christ could not drive the demon out of her, and instead some pagan woman found her and tried to drive the demon out of her. She did not succeed though.

I just remembered the movie Legion. God is basically the villain. He sends angels to possess people turning them into zombies. The archangel Michael defends people cause he still has faith in humanity. The actor Doug Jones was in it although he is supposedly Christian. Terrible movie.

I've seen a couple of youtube animations that basically amount to satan killing or attempting to kill God or Jesus. Satan's ultimate power fantasy, as if he'd have the slightest chance.

Saw is satanic not just because of the gore. The main problem is the morality involved. Why does he have the right to judge them? Revenge is the Lord's. Notice how victims almost always lose something even if they "win". They also show them in red and black robes like a satanist.

>>599677

I liked the first Saw and second one, but the rest turned out to be shitty gore porn made to earn a quick buck.

>>599677

>The main problem is the morality involved. Why does he have the right to judge them? Revenge is the Lord's.

Does the movie say he is a good guy though?

>>599666

satanic trips confirm

>>599707

The apostate breed of pagan do not have morals like Christians or even your basic idolator praying to Vishnu. They revel in deviancy and evil and likely appreciated the movie for the empowering message of how your family suppresses you from being your 'true self' and how it'd be better for you if they were dead.

>>599717

>The apostate breed of pagan do not have morals like Christians

Of course, but this is literally the exact things we warn other Christians about.

>how your family suppresses you from being your 'true self'

Thats the only thing I could come up with.

>>598937

taxi driver was great but whew lad scorsese is a huge kike

Some reviewers were quick to point out that each family member was a symbolism for each if the seven. The father is prideful, the son is lustful, as he has growing sexual feelings towards his sister, etc.. The thing I do not understand is that the 7 deadly sins are a Catholic thing, not a Protestant thing.

>>599510

wow a typo, you sure got me.

>>598971

>Why do modern people love trying to drive this wedge in?

Stems from the false narrative that Paul corrupted Jesus' message.

It's also a narrative used by Muslims

>>599990

People also hate Paul because he supported traditional gender roles and condemned homosexuality. A lot of hippie 'red letter Christians' think that they could have a pro-LGBT feminist Christianity if not for that meddling Paul.

>>599913

I skipped out on watching that, why do you think so?

>>598942

I felt the same way when I saw it. Some evil stuff in an seemingly innocuous film.

>>599463

I don't know, if I recall correctly his role and the one of the bad guys, was closer to the one of actors. He played the antagonist and that made him an outcast. It is something like, an actor playing a bad guy being hated by people. Which happens sometimes.

>>598934

Id rather not tell but it includes a priest bones burned and his burnt bones used as souvenir dildos

To this day the movie is still censored. I wonder why the vatican did nothing about it though

>>599993

>'red letter Christians'

Revelation 2:21-23

<And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. 23And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

>>600017

Because it is about Imagination and breaking rules, b yourself and other things the anti-christ barfs all the time in child's media with a hint of Gnosticism to the end.

>>600127

Are the "animation is evil always" guy? You know, the one that obsessively hates the loud house which is clearly made by creepy pedos but is still obsessive tbh

>>599989

Just a bit of cheeky banter m8, calm your farm

Love Exposure.

>>599666 (apage'd)

I think we have a winner

>>600302

Am I suppose to be happy about that?

What do you guys think of the Conjuring: Part II?

>>600401

tl;dw?

>>600405

Rosemary's Baby: A newly married couple move into a apartment building populated by the rich upper-class of society who promise the husband connections leading to fame as an actor. It turns out they are part of a Satanic witches/warlock cult/coven and the husband sells his wife out to get impregnated by Satan in exchange for said connections. After enduring agonizing torment during the pregnancy, she finally gives birth to the Anti-Christ, does not have the heart to kill him, and is implied she raises him, as the coven cheers the triumph of the Anti-Christ.

The Ninth Gate: Johnny Depp plays a crooked antique book seller/appraiser who is given a mission by an antique book collector to collect the other copies of a book that legend has it was written by Satan and will give the owner either the power of the Devil or will transform him in the Devil himself. Goes on a worldwide hunt, assisted by a supernatural women who is heavily implied to be an agent of the Devil himself. Others taking part in the search end up dead in horrific circumstances along the way. There's also the revelation of society's elite keeping up a Satanic cult throughout generations. Eventually Depp's character copulates with Devil woman, and the end shows him going into the "Ninth Gate" and implies he either gets the power or becomes the Devil himself.

Roman Polanski's pedophile rapist history, plus the fact that he willingly had his picture taken in the room still fresh with the blood stain of his wife where she was ritualistically murdered by the Manson family strongly implies that these movies may be less fiction, and more like pseudo-documentaries of the Satanic elite practices that Polanski may partake in.

>>600407

Wow, that's freaky.

>>600407

>plus the fact that he willingly had his picture taken in the room still fresh with the blood stain of his wife where she was ritualistically murdered by the Manson family

Wait what? Sauce?

>>598934

>Pic related, for me it's The VVitch: A New England Folk Tale.

Thanks for the detailed "why", op

I know people desperately wanting to watch this with me.

Now I know to nope

>>599906

>This is a story about sin leading to downfall.

Still doesn't sound like wholesome entertainments, tho'

>>598940

>Drag Me To Hell. It’s not only the most satanic, it’s also the most disgusting and worthless. It’s one of the only movies I’ve ever watched that I actively regret watching

M-m-mark?!

>>598970

Oh, heeeere we go. Popcorn anyone?

>>599463

SERIOUSLY?!?! That's pretty fugged-up right there

>>599666

BOOM! Satanic trips DO make it true

>>599913

>most satanic

>LEGO movie

LOL

thanks m8 i needed that lol

>>600703

The movie is about a bad guy at the top of the world controlling everyone with mind control and presenting a false vision of it.

>>600701

>Still doesn't sound like wholesome entertainments, tho

No, it's a great art movie, not Happy Days.

>>600407

Rosemary's Baby is just a Jewish mockery of what they see as Christian superstitions.

>>600411

Fake, you know which is the REAL one.

How does this board feel about nudity on screen? I always have had a problem with it and I feel very insecure about my prudish mannerisms with it. Increasingly so as the girl I've been dating for a few months doesn't seem to mind it (as I assume most people don't) but I am very uncomfortable with her enjoying explicit and vulgar comedies or really any movies with sex scenes.

>>600420

We know that Roman Polanski used his position in Hollywood to drug and anally rape a thirteen-year-old girl, who if I recall was an aspiring actress. I forget if the parents were complicit parents, but I don't they they were, as the crime eventually came out. Presumably that wasn't his first rodeo.

We also know that Roman Polanski was a child pornographer. He photographed at least that one naked underage girl on a beach.

We know that Manson had access to underage girls with his cult. We know that Manson supplied the Beach Boy Brian Wilson with underage girls in an effort to get into the music industry. We know that Manson used his underage female followers to recruit men into his cult.

We know that the police discovered a box of "home movies" in the attic of the Tate residence. These reels were shot by Polanski and featured him and Sharon Tate. That is according to the LAPD. Who knows what was actually in those films. Who knows if Polanski and Tate were the only Hollywood royalty featured in those movies. Who knows who any guest stars might have been, and what their ages were. After watching the movies, the LAPD returned the box with the film reels to where they found it in the attic and contacted Polanski and he had a third party enter the house, collect the box, and presumably destroy the contents. Who knows if the LAPD returned the movies of their own accord or if they were handed down orders from someone powerful in the City of Angels.

So we have Manson, who supplies powerful people in the entertainment industry with underage girls, and Polanski, who while being a powerful person in the entertainment industry is a pedophile rapist and a child pornographer. Both Polanski and Manson are interested in Satanism and the occult. (Church of Satan founded Anton LaVey played the devil in the rape scene in Polanski's Rosemary's Baby. Susan Atkins, one of the murderers, had been a dancer at LaVey's performances before joining the Manson Family. Another of the murder victims, Jay Sebring, was a member of the Church of Satan. Manson claimed to be Satan. Etc.) Both have a thing for underage girls.

And somehow Manson just so happens to murder Polanski's wife while Polanski was out of town. What a coincidence.

I can't think of any. I always get anxiety from horror films so I don't watch them.

>>598977

>>599437

I'm fairly certain you should not have watched it.

Best thing to do in relation to the demonic is understand and pray deliverance prayers for yourself and your family. Possibly work on any generational spirits. Other than that always guard yourself from becoming too curious

>>609471

>We know that the police discovered a box of "home movies" in the attic of the Tate residence. These reels were shot by Polanski and featured him and Sharon Tate. That is according to the LAPD. Who knows what was actually in those films.

Reminds me of Polanski's Rosemary's Baby where the cultists shot a sex tape of the devil impregnating the main character as she was drugged and bound. Also weird that Tate was pregnant when the killing occurred.

>>609511

im watching holy mountain right now, can anyone explain what this bs is about? I really enjoy esoteric films that have underlying meanings but this is wayyy tooo uhh… 'concealed' for me, for lack of a better term.

I'd say tortureporn-tier stuff like Hostel or Saw is way more "satanic" than most movies in this thread. Then again, that might just be me. I'm a bit squeamish and don't enjoy seeing people get tortured.

>>598940

>Drag Me To Hell

I honestly thought that it was supposed a horror comedy, like a poor man's Evil Dead.

>>600401

>The ninth Gate

Gotta watch that one again one of these days.

I'm watching the ninth gate right now.

>>598934

They all are, cause they're produced by jews.