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No. Why would it be? Thoughts aren't sinful, actions are

It is sinful to think about them sexually, as this is considered a form of adultery (Matthew 5:28).

But if want to get into a real, romantic relationship, go nuts.

>>581356

>Thoughts aren't sinful

<But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Still it's normal to be attracted to girls at church, just don't lust over them.

>>581357

*If you want.

Typo.

>>581358

i realize you could just be posting that verse to show that "Thoughts aren't sinful, actions are" is wrong,

but does this verse on adultery apply to the unmarried (viewer)?

don't you have to be married to commit adultery?

>>581354

gib gatolicc chick pls

also general question… do you use online dating? apps?

asking for a friend

I think this is why genders should be separated as was done and still is in some churches as well as in the rest of the major Abrahamic religions along with the head coverings.

>>581365

Like different rooms?

No. Infact, I consider church to be only place nowadays to find a decent soulmate and future spouse.

this article brought up a ton of good points backed with scripture and really made me think:

https://www.jasonstaples.com/bible/most-misinterpreted-bible-passages-1-matthew-527-28/

summary:

>So to sum it up, Matthew 5:27–28 is not a condemnation of lust or sexual desire, nor does it mean that every red-blooded male necessarily sins every time a beautiful woman walks into a room (or onto a movie screen or anywhere else she may appear). On the contrary, “lust” itself is not a sin but leads to sin if it is not properly governed and put under the authority of the Spirit (again, note James 1:14–15).

>>581354

No, attraction is different from lust, which is attraction deformed.

There was a saint or church patriarch who specified the minimum covering for converts should be at least the loins.

Clearly if you look at an attractive woman and have sexual thoughts, then you have a choice. You can indulge in them and begin thinking lustfully about how much you want to satisfy your own desires (fantasising), or you can resist the sexual thoughts .

>>581357

The teaching of Matthew 5:28 is only that lusting after a woman in your thoughts is sinful. Involuntary sexual thoughts are bad, but sin involves choice.

>>581372

It's also cool how they preserve the purity or sanctity of the church building prescribing everyone to avoid entering one for a period after having intercourse or during menstruation. Helps brings back the spirituality and mystique of the ancient times where the Christian faith originated.

>>581354

If by attraction you mean lust then yes it is

If by attraction you mean attraction then no, but don't let it fall into lust

>>581354

Get to know them and marry one

>>581376

Don't the Orthodox do this to some extent with fasting periods, and requiring that anyone who receives communion must have fasted at least since rising that morning? I think they also stipulate that one should not have intercourse with one's spouse the night before worship.

I imagine the Catholics must have something similar as well.

>>581380

Probably but Catholics like the West in general are probably more likely to have deviated from such practices.

>>581354

No, but don't look at them. Looking at girls can be dangerous.

>>581380

Catholics should fast for an hour before receiving Communion. I judlst don't eat at all before mass.

>>581354

>Is it wrong to be attracted to girls at church?

Quite the opposite. Marry one and sex her all you want.

>>581372

lol isn't this what haredi jews do too?

>>581625

Are you American? Orthodoxy is the only denomination where men outnumber the women which makes it all the more difficult.

>>581628

Yeah. I'm just going to focus on work and school for the time being. Its likely for the best.

>>581625

The one non-thot is becoming a nun.

That's a blackpill. Guess if I want tradwife I'll need to go to Romania to get one.

>>581634

Christianity is the biggest blackpill there is friendo. And, I don't mean the "Huuur everything is meaningless, so just watch Chinese cartoons!" I mean the "It is what it is." type.

>I'll need to go to Romania to get one

Maybe we should start a group that goes to Orthodox countries to find wives. Ukraine is a bust form my understanding. Had a friend who spent a summer there. Nothing but she wolves, and throat cutters.

I try not to, the Church is the house of God, how could anyone who fears God do so without immediately begging His pardon?

>>581638

>Ukraine is a bust form my understanding. Had a friend who spent a summer there. Nothing but she wolves, and throat cutters.

Sorry to say that Romania is also a thot factory. I heard that the majority of the whores in Western Europe come from Romania, Ukraine and Hungary.

>>581354

>Is it wrong to be attracted to girls at church? Some of the girls at my church are pretty hot and it’s hard to not look at them.

No, it's not wrong. The book of life records your deeds, not every errant thought that crosses your mind. God made us as we are, and part of our roles as humans includes finding a woman who can become a wife, and starting a family with her. Jesus did say on many occasions to love others.

>>581644

Eh, not surprising. almost a century's worth of oppression will do that. I'm sure there are devout single women there though, just like I'm sure there are devout single women in 'merica.

>>581639

>I try not to, the Church is the house of God, how could anyone who fears God do so without immediately begging His pardon?

God has no need of a house. Don't let idolatry cloud your understanding of what it means to have a relationship with God. No location, object, statue, book, or anything of that sort matters. God gave us clear and concise directives to follow, with his understanding that we will falter in our attempts.

>>581638

Not too shocking, especially if he was hanging out in Kiev for the most part. I know Russia is that way too sadly.

>>581644

So that leaves… Moldova?

>>581660

also Serbia

>>581660

>See Poland, and Portugal.

I'm now officially jelly of papists.

>>581625

>DFW

David Foster Wallace?

>>581628

>Orthodoxy is the only denomination where men outnumber the women

Could this be at least partially because of the requirement/encouragement to wear a veil in church? The modern female mind rebels against the very idea of this, and I can imagine it remaining a niggle of discontentment amongst all but the most devout Orthodox women. Perhaps it leads the less devout to believe that Orthodoxy is 'nasty and sexist' and so they convert to another church.

>>581628

You can barely even see young girls in church, churches are mainly full of old people. The only occasions where there are a lot of young people are those charismatic masses and I don't want to have anything to do with a girl who would go to such a mass.

Also, young people who do go to church very often do it out of sheer habit, they don't really live up to the standards they supposedly have.

Recognising beauty is healthy and good, but subverting that for lustful ends is not.

>>581759

It's normal to separate woman/men seats in traditional churches.

It used to be the same with the catholic one that woman were at the left and men at the right.

The meaning behind this is that Mary was to the right of Christ, which from our view (looking at the cross) would be our left.

>>581660

I can tell you guys the small villages in South-Italy still have some gems so I've heard.

My cousin in South-Italy says that the girls there are reluctant to get deflowered.

Religion-wise most are just lukewarm catholics however.

>>581652

OK, point to the scripture where Christ forbids having a physical Church

>>581877

their entire existence is bait

>>581660

>Israel

>Europe

Why is Israel included as a European country?

Also, fi you guys are looking for real traditional women, come to my country Lebanon. Granted there are outliers as in every group or area of interest, but most of the girls here remain virgins until marriage. Now religion wise, I'm not entirely sure. The church I go to barely has any people my age, they are mostly old or married people, so it's hard to see a girl there my age, and they only go to church for Christmas and other similar occasions.

>>581882

It's not like Turkey and Tunisia are European countries either.

>>581376

>avoid entering one for a period after having intercourse or during menstruation

Sounds like Judaizing to me.

>>581882

A serious question, how would a non-Arabic traditional catholic with South-European roots yet pale as a Nord be hailed?

>The church I go to barely has any people my age, they are mostly old or married people, so it's hard to see a girl there my age, and they only go to church for Christmas and other similar occasions.

I'd rather have a non-virgin devout convert than a lukewarm virgin tbh.

>>581361

Fornication of any kind is sinful, as is lust itself.

>>582030

Well you're selectively picking and choosing otherwise and the reasoning for doing so denomination wide often hinges on scant justification.

It would be wrong to not look at them. They were deliberately made beautiful by God to help perpetuate humanity. We are surrounded by the beauty of God's creation and you reject God when you willfully turn your back on and reject the beauty He created.

>>582116

>tfw you aren't the only one

Every day for the past 2 weeks I've been feeling the same thing. I'm not sure if it's the fact that I've also been fighting increased temptation lately to relapse into porn or what, but it's actually been really detrimental to my ability to focus during the liturgy.

>>582033

>A serious question, how would a non-Arabic traditional catholic with South-European roots yet pale as a Nord be hailed?

I guess you'll stand out a bit. Most Lebanese are darker than Nords, that's for sure.

>I'd rather have a non-virgin devout convert than a lukewarm virgin tbh

I did say that the church I go to. There are many other churches in Lebanon, where I'm guessing you will find young devout women.

>>581625

what ethnic group? this is depressing

>>581380

Supposed to have fasted since midnight on saturday for communion on sunday. I believe Catholics would always skip breakfast on sunday but now I have no idea.

>>581882

> Leb girls are pure

You having a giggle, mate? Mind you, I've never visited Lebanon but the Lebs here are 100% gaudy Kardashian thots. What's the saying in the middle east? "A Syrian if you want a loyal wife. A Lebanese if you want a trophy wife. An Egyptian if you want good sex."

>>581644

>Sorry to say that Romania is also a thot factory.

Romaniafag here.

Honestly, you find everything from super-easy sluts to "muh qt feminine waifu that wants to save herself till marriage, and smiles at the prospect of being a mom"

>>581651

>Eh, not surprising. almost a century's worth of oppression will do that.

Let's not forget that lovely demonic industry of human trafficking.

It's disturbing and sickening.

>I'm sure there are devout single women there though, just like I'm sure there are devout single women in 'merica.

That they are.

>>582196

>>582116

you guys dont admire the celibate life?

>>582559

Not them, but I admire the celibate life enormously. I wish I could be like Paul and the other saints, but I know that I don't have the strength.

>>582427

OCA, Greek, Antiochian, and Rocor. I've pretty much dredged the rivers of my area at this point.

>>582220

Well I don't mind the Byzantine rite, I went a few times to a local Ukrainian Greek catholic parish.

How's living there?

I mean, is it expensive?

>>581354

>Is it wrong to be attracted to girls at church? Some of the girls at my church are pretty hot and it’s hard to not look at them.

Do they dress modest?

If not, change the parish.

>>582559

>you guys dont admire the celibate life?

I admire it, I just want to engage in the marital act and have kids.

>>582525

>You having a giggle, mate? Mind you, I've never visited Lebanon but the Lebs here are 100% gaudy Kardashian thots. What's the saying in the middle east? "A Syrian if you want a loyal wife. A Lebanese if you want a trophy wife. An Egyptian if you want good sex."

I said most of them are. The ones I've met and the ones I see on the road are. The ones that go clubbing, not so much. Look, these people exist everywhere. The amount of "pure" girls are decreasing. When they leave the country they go crazy because they're "free from the shackles of the patriarchy and religion which was holding them down", they're stronk independent wamen who can screw whomever they want. Regarding the Syrians, I haven't met many Syrian girls to come to a conclusion. However, seeing as most of the prostitutes in the country are Syrian, I would beg to differ.

>>582601

Depends on where you live. I think you would be better off staying where you are. Tensions in Lebanon are still high, and they are kind of increasing with the protests in Iran, since we have Hezbollah here. Living here is "okay", but I think it would be hard for you since you aren't used to the place. Driving here is crazy, the drivers don't follow the law and sperg out most of the times. The roads are terrible, except in downtown Beirut, because you know, prestige. Living in Beirut can be expensive, especially if you don't have a solid job.

>is it wrong to be a man who likes women??

No, be attracted all you want just don't touch them or think about their sinful naked bodies.

>>582834

>I think you would be better off staying where you are

Alright thought so, thanks m8.

I'll probably be moving to the Mezzogiorno in the future.

I'll still have to adapt a bit since I grew up in noth-west Europe but I got a lot of the culture already.

>>582559

Its only celibate if you don't masturbate.

>>582559

I admire it greatly but I feel the need to graft my family lineage onto the Church by having like 6 kids

>>583052

What's your speech condition may I ask? I'm praying for you.

>>583303

High arched palate, I can't pronounce "r"

>>583052

>tfw stutterer

I know your feels

>>582866

Anytime brother.