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File: 699ca62c437a08c⋯.jpg (59.3 KB, 480x340, 24:17, jesus-explains-gaming.jpg)

99af30 No.580770

Why are videogames based on Christianity considered lame?, and why the ones listed as "Christian Video Games" are so lame?

Look at this list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_video_games

Most of these games are failed titles with not much success on the market and almost no real effort from developers.

I do know that Christianity its still alive in the world of videogames, specially with some taking on themes such as Light vs Darkness, however, I´m starting to get worried about the future for children, since now a days most games are based on paganism, or they just simply promote satanism and luciferanism.

WE NEED TO CREATE A CHRISTIAN/CATHOLIC/ORTHODOX SPACE IN THE MARKET OF VIDEOGAMES FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS

I am sure there is nothing wrong on playing video games as a christian, unless ofcourse you are looking for lust or violence.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-video-games.html

Future christian videogames should promote a bit of dark humour combined with redpill to save children from the satanic system we are living today.

>Also

Which are your favourite Christian or Medieval theme videogames?

Mine are "Dante´s Inferno, Crusader Kings and Total War series"

I know I should try out some Mount & Blade and Stronghold.

ee2879 No.580773

Name one video game about Jesus dying on the cross for your sins.


a627d3 No.580774

>>580773

persona 3


99af30 No.580778

File: 4b2f77dafe0aca6⋯.jpg (30.82 KB, 314x480, 157:240, finan.jpg)

>>580773

Real life


f71e54 No.580779

>>580770

Any multiplayer game is a Christian one if you play it and are not afraid of representing your faith.

Video games really shouldn't be more than a brief pastime.


0fad07 No.580788


5d756c No.580790

File: f1b29005d52322c⋯.jpg (69.86 KB, 370x523, 370:523, Bibleman-video-game.jpg)

Graphics: 97%

Sound: 100%

Replay/Extras: 85%

Gameplay: 95%

Family Friendly Factor: 98%

System: Personal Computer

Publisher: Covenant Studios

ESRB Rating: 'E' for Everyone


99af30 No.580791

File: 6a32aa6cacdad13⋯.jpg (85.61 KB, 800x869, 800:869, dekarona4_aj8nL246060.jpg)

>>580779

>Any multiplayer game is a Christian one

Can you recommend me a good MMORPG where I could LARP as a knight of Jesus Christ?

>Also

I do not play mmorpgs since my current PC is a toaster, but once I get a better gear, I´ll start playing some mmorpgs just for fun.


ee2879 No.580794

>>580778

>>580788

>>580774

Nowhere near the quality of fallout.


a03322 No.580803

Aren't the first 3 games of the halo series an allegory for the new testament or something? I think I remember seeing something about the writer of the story having been a theology major.


db7f35 No.580805

The Shin Megami Tensei series is highly religious


f10437 No.580808

>>580791

>Can you recommend me a good MMORPG where I could LARP as a knight of Jesus Christ?

Das RPing, not LARPing.

Also WoW is fine for that and has pretty populous rp servers, any other games with paladins works too I guess, just remember that its lore is super dualistic in it's approach to "the Light" and "the Void" and other RPers may not like you bringing extra-canon material into the mix.


4d5866 No.580815

>>580770

>I know I should try out some Mount & Blade

The Nova Aetes mod has many denominations of Christianity and each has consequences in the mod, it's worth a play.


99af30 No.580816

File: c54d8cb116c5632⋯.jpg (18.82 KB, 480x360, 4:3, YHWH SMT.jpg)

File: 5623dec4ef9e921⋯.jpg (55.69 KB, 640x480, 4:3, 13-deuspillars15.jpg)

>>580805

>>580774

>SMT is highly religious

Not so much since the main villain on Shin Megami Tensei II is no other than YHVH himself.

God isnt bad, its just that people love to judge him and not themselves.

Something similar happens in Xenogears, where you fight God in the center of the planet.


20a56e No.580823

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Castlevania and Requiem: Avenging Angel come to mind.


287264 No.580826

File: 3d6eb4da20b0298⋯.png (173.02 KB, 1600x1200, 4:3, Mny8Sr8.png)

>>580805

The game were Thor nukes Japan cuz God told him? The game uses Myths and Religious figures and whatnot but it doesn't really gets them. It is a Japanese misunderstanding of Religion. Not that it is a bad game series, I love it but it is pretty bad in that terms.

>>580816

Worst part is that YHYW is not even the Creator, at least not since Apocalypse came and shitted on the lore. He is now an Avatar of The Great Will of the Universe that went Rouge. Yes, they went full Gnostics and yes, APO sucks a lot


8e0775 No.580831

pilgrim's progress game was made by the guy who made five nights at freddies

take that as you will


4bf7d1 No.580833

File: 9e4128a92114125⋯.png (297.81 KB, 640x480, 4:3, vlcsnap-2017-12-25-21h41m1….png)

>>580790

>rock and roll worship service


e11976 No.580835

Did we need another /v/ thread?


889068 No.580836

>>580831

iirc he's a christian and isn't a fan of the freddy autism at all


f10437 No.580848

>>580845

Wait isn't Yaldaboath the final boss of Persona 5? I know they like to play it fast and loose with mythological characters but how does that even work?

Also if you recognize X mythology/cosmology/philosophy as as wrong then it isn't going to influence you then I don't see the problem with playing it, although SMT obviously goes into straight blasphemy tier so it's a different matter. Personally my favorite franchise is Dark Souls, which takes a very dualistic worldview with cosmic cycles of fire and dark that the characters are unable to escape through death, but it also acknowledges the necessity of a Messiah who can take that fire into himself in order to break that cycle, so it provides a good allegory for those caught between eastern and western notions of salvation. Perhaps I'm bending over backwards to defend something I like, and it can certainly can instill a corrupting worldview on those who don't get the full message of the game (DS is notorious for it's obtuse and minimalist plot. Also the "Sable Church" is portrayed as a bunch of violent accelerationists), but I think that Christians can at least enjoy these things up to a point as long as they don't try and add to their worldview from them.


47659a No.580856

File: 3753e78a476c6fa⋯.jpg (95.2 KB, 650x749, 650:749, Assassin's Creed PS3-cover.jpg)

>>580770

>Which are your favourite Christian or Medieval theme videogames?

When the series was completely new, I liked and still like the first Assassin's Creed a lot. Assassin's Creed II has also a place in the black hole where once my heart was, because it combines a its in-game mythology with Christian mythology, especially finding and solving the 20 glyphs for the Adam and Eve video was a journey of its own. Never felt something so immersive and eerie for me when solving these riddles with their religious and historical references, especially if you believe in several conspiracy theories. Truly, those two installments are a work of their own. Rest in peace, Patrice Desiléts, I hope you find peace in your new game studio after Ubisoft wielded such injustice upon you.

F


054a70 No.580860

>>580791

>MMO

Waste of time

>but all games are-

No more than television or other entertainment, but MMOs require more time than all the others combined

>>580826

Ironically, that guy looks like an anime character, perhaps that was the joke?

>>580856

>Ass Ass ins Creed

>Templars are evil

>Religion is a scam to control the masses

>Titular assassisn's group based on real life mudslime group

It's trash son.jpg


e2ff68 No.580871

File: d4559506adb4b30⋯.jpg (52.2 KB, 600x267, 200:89, example.jpg)

Christian video games are lame because Christian artists are bad.

Consider what makes a piece of art interesting in general. In mediums that involve storytelling you generally you have some kind of conflict that grows to a resolution. The nature of the conflict and the resolution gives a focus and clarity to certain aspects of real life. But, here's the big thing, generally speaking you don't write your story to be obviously about what the actual topic of the story is. You hide your meaning in at least one layer of symbols. And maybe you don't have any one meaning in mind at all, but you just come up with a rich brew of symbols that can be interpreted in many ways by different people.

Example: Anon above interprets Dark Souls in a way that the Lords of Cinder are Messiah figures. I interpret it in a different sense: the dark is the void, the cloud of unknowing behind which God hides. Both of us give Christian-ish interpretations to the story but they are different. In the end the story itself probably doesn't definitely intend either of these interpretations, but that's not a problem, because it permits them.

Now ask yourself how a Christian story can symbolize something beyond its obvious meaning?

Here's an example: the Creation of Adam. God's finger is stiff, Adam's is limp and impotent. The two fingers almost touch but not quite. There's a loving gaze between the two, but also a distance. The picture literally depicts the Creation of Adam, but its meaning is that man is less than God and dependent on God, that God always acts first to come to man, but yet that man still has an inestimable dignity. You could even interpret this in a non-Christian way if you wanted to, by substituting something else for God, say, reason. You could say "Man is almost reasonable, but not quite, yet perfect reason is the goal toward which we must strive," and that could be an interpretation that the work itself permits.

When Christians set out deliberately to make "X but Christian!!!" they generally drop all subtlety, all nuance. The point of the story they tell is "Christianity is true!" AND the content of the story is also "Christianity is true!". The content of their art SYMBOLIZES nothing outside itself. It is blatant and "preachy". It admits of no alternative interpretations. It does not allow anyone to draw their own conclusions. That's the reason why it's lame.

I'd much rather draw my own Christian conclusion about the meaning of a secular work of art than have someone else's Christian conclusion of a Christian work of art forced on me.


be30a8 No.580874

>Why are videogames based on Christianity considered lame?, and why the ones listed as "Christian Video Games" are so lame?

Because they're usually created by people who don't play video games, and they prioritize faith/evangelism over gameplay.

>I´m starting to get worried about the future for children, since now a days most games are based on paganism, or they just simply promote satanism and luciferanism.

If anything, you should worry about athiesm or lapsed faith. Why go to church on Sunday when you can take a spin on the dopamine treadmill instead?

>>580788

The You Testament is a weird one. It's one man's poor attempt at converting his wrestling game engine into a means of evangelism through gameplay engagement, and then the whole thing turns into one heretical, buggy mess. It's advertised as you sort of walking Jesus' path, and in the game your character is coached by Jesus in the ways of esoteric Hinduism to get superpowers. I don't know if this is what he actually believes or if he just put them in there to keep people entertained with debug/cheat powers. I don't even know if you become the Messiah instead in the end or if you just follow Jesus through His journey, since you'll usually be sidetracked by random violence, maimings, imprisonment, crucifixions, or goofing around with your chakra powers. Mat Dickie is simultaneously a master and an idiot.


f10437 No.580896

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>580871

>Lords of Cinder

I actually was referring to the Lord of Hollows given that he's the only one that shakes up the cycle in a way that (I presume) can fully preserve the fire. A character in the last DS3 DLC literally asked the player to call Gwyn God despite the fact that he was, you know, dead and the whole dlc is in part a meditation on how ultimately useless the Lords of Cinder's efforts were. The Lord of Hollows is a culmination of a plan and church literally created by soul stealing snake so I don't want to defend it, but a glimmer of truth is there.

Also if you want another example in this anon's vein see Lord of the Rings.


cccb5e No.581049

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File: b347700f17ccf9d⋯.jpg (1.56 MB, 2000x1350, 40:27, freemen.jpg)

>>580860

>Templars are not part of evil


04136d No.583391

>>580816

YHVH isn't god but a jewish deamon posing as god


3c8062 No.583394

File: 0de6e94184f1f33⋯.jpg (84.29 KB, 448x473, 448:473, 0de6e94184f1f3348ff16cd3be….jpg)

>>580770

>Why are videogames based on Christianity considered lame?

Because (((kikes))) make them and they only make them to subvert the player in very subtle ways.

>and why the ones listed as "Christian Video Games" are so lame?

Herd mentality of religion being a nofun zone.


2a373e No.583397

File: 234c1ba770e7c0a⋯.jpg (513.53 KB, 1539x1025, 1539:1025, (((who)))_started_attack_o….jpg)

>>583394

A lot of the Christian games suck as well. The best ones are Japanese since they use undertones and not out right force it down your throat. See Actraiser.

The good goy (((Christians))) like Jack Thompson were useful idiots as well into scaring people in the video game industry and game players in general away from Christianity with Jack Thompson breaking the rules of the bible and lying his ass off and using threats and intimidation. He had that "I'm a Christian, I can do whatever the fuck I want" attitude.

Also, (((Lieberman))) and (((Kohl)))'s attack on the industry because of their (((masters))) was another part as well. The (((Christians))) were attacking everything from music, movies, and video games, and made Christianity look bad. This has to be by design by (((them))). By creating an enemy and offering shelter, protection, and "freedom" is one of the best ways to subvert people.


2a373e No.583398

>>583397

Going to have to link my post in another vidya thread here >>582247


3c8062 No.583399

>>583398

>that blogpost

>not just quoting 1 corinthians 14:26




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