87cbf3 No.577992
I was an lapsed Catholic, but am thinking of getting back to the Church. Today, I went to Mass. When it came time for communion, I knew that I couldn’t receive the Eucharist because I was in a state of mortal sin and needed to go to confession. I decided to go up for a blessing instead, but the person gave me communion even though I had my arms crossed. Not knowing what to do, I stashed the water in my pocket and decided to go to confession later. Unfortunately, the priest was busy and I had to leave because I was with my family. I didn’t tell anyone what happened because I was embarresed, and later missed the only chance I had to go to confession. I now have this communion wafer in my house and don’t know what to do. I can’t throw it away, and I can’t eat it in a state of mortal sin. Would it be wrong to save it until my next chance to go to confession? Is there another way to absolve my sins without a priest? I really don’t know what to do
6c94d1 No.577998
>>577992
Why didn't you get in the priest line? The EMHC can't give you a blessing.
2e62fc No.577999
>>577992
>Is there another way to absolve my sins without a priest?
Perfect contrition, but (besides when you are in immediate danger of death, if I remember correctly) even if you have it you still can't eat the Eucharist before Confession.
I suppose you should ask this on Reddit's Catholicism subreddit, unlike here they have actual priests and canon law experts.
1010c6 No.578000
don't throw it away
>Can. 1367 One who throws away the consecrated species or, for a sacrilegious purpose, takes them away or keeps them, incurs a latae sententiae excommunication reserved to the Apostolic See; a cleric, moreover, may be punished with some other penalty, not excluding dismissal from the clerical state.
take it to a priest to dispose of it
4ca56b No.578001
>>577992
RETURN THAT NOW! YOU LITERALLY HAVE JESUS! DO NOT EAT IT, DO NOT THROW IT AWAY!
GO.
RETURN.
IT.
e21ae0 No.578004
513055 No.578013
>>577992
What the actual fuck
6c9133 No.578015
But Jesus is able to reverse the process and make it a regular wafer again, right? Seems like this is the kind of accident that could have happened before.
6c94d1 No.578022
>>578015
This was no accident.
87cbf3 No.578023
So it looks like the next time I can go to confession is the 26th. Can I preserve it until then or is that wrong?
e21ae0 No.578024
>>578023
Better than throwing it away but you should fess up and take it back
e9f4cd No.578025
>>578023
Just drive down now! Return it now!
312dee No.578027
>>577992
You HAVE to return it to the priest. That's the body of our Lord, you can't throw it away, you absolutely MUST return it to a priest before you commit even more of a sacrilege.
87cbf3 No.578029
>>578024
Throwing it away isn’t even a consideration. My first hope is to confess ASAP and eat it, and if I can’t do that then my next hope is to give it back. I feel awful and embarrassed about this
Incidentally, should this be one of the things I confess when I go to confession? Is this a sin? If it’s a sin, is there a formal name for something like this?
f896e1 No.578030
Give it back as soon as you can! Like seriously, right now!
e21ae0 No.578031
>>578029
The priest will be understanding. Call him and take it back.
312dee No.578032
>>578029
Here's what you have to do:
1. Return the body of our Lord to the priest, DO NOT keep it until you go to a confession. Go to the sacristy before the mass and return it to the priest asap
2. When you do go to a confession, tell the priest what you did, just like you wrote here and it'll be fine.
6c94d1 No.578033
>>578029
>Is this a sin?
latae sententiae excommunication … look it up.
The priest will be understanding if you relate the story to him as you've done here, but don't waste another minute waiting for some other reply.
Take
It
BACK!
ed9d01 No.578034
>>578029
What is it about this that you do not get? RETURN IT ASAP! AND BY THAT I MEAN RIGHT NOW! You are committing major sacrilege. RETURN IT NOW! Go get in your car, drive to the church, and give it back right now! Get off the internet and go do that! NOW!
87cbf3 No.578037
>>578004
>>578025
>>578027
>>578030
>>578031
>>578032
>>578033
>>578034
Alright, there’s a Christmas mass at 7 and my family is going at 6 to get there early. I will bring the host and tell the priest what happened
e21ae0 No.578038
>>578037
Good man. See that you do.
ed9d01 No.578039
49ad86 No.578040
Wait a second
How are you going to "eat it after confession" unless you grab it? It doesn't count anymore if you grab it with your hands.
312dee No.578041
>>578037
Good, Don't worry the priest will understand. Btw, don't stand in the communion line if you can't receive communion, you get the blessing at the end of the mass anyway. This just as much the priest's fault as is yours because some priests give communion like they're on a conveyor belt.
e21ae0 No.578042
>>578040
By hand is very common in North America, there's a whole story behind it, better to let it lie
7681e4 No.578044
>>578040
Catholics, especially in the US, love their communion in the hand.
870a00 No.578045
49ad86 No.578048
>>578045
I blame the novus ordites for this.
7681e4 No.578049
>>578045
>There's another way?
oof
e21ae0 No.578050
>>578045
On the tongue from the priest directly. V common in Europe. This was a VII change and by mouth is still valid everywhere.
e21ae0 No.578051
>>578050
I should say it wasn't directly VII but kind of rolled in with other liturgical things
49ad86 No.578052
>>578000
>for a sacrilegious purpose, takes them away or keeps them
I don't think that OP meant to do sacrilege Even if the Novus Ordo sacrilege is flying everywhere so it doesn't count, mate.
1010c6 No.578054
>>578052
my point was about the throwing it away part
>One who throws away the consecrated species [or, for a sacrilegious purpose, takes them away or keeps them,]
>incurs a latae sententiae excommunication reserved to the Apostolic See
you're right that he's not boned for taking it away since it wasn't done for sacrilegious reasons
6ef15d No.578055
>>578042
>>578044
all the churches ive been to do it here as well
im guilty too
f87b11 No.578056
>this thread
Catholics, ladies and gentlemen.
513055 No.578058
>>578040
e/b/in poast mah nigga
3b6fc9 No.578060
>>578045
Outside of North America receiving on the tongue is the most common method.
>>578048
meh not sure
Here in Europe receiving in the tongue is the most common method, seems to be an American thing to receive in the hand.
312dee No.578067
>>578056
You eat cookies during your 'services' so of course this is all funny stuff for you.
>>578045
Yeah, up until 40 years ago you weren't allowed to take communion in the hand and you had to kneel when receiving communion and an altar boy would hold a small plate under your chin while you were receiving it so not a particle from the host would fall to the ground. Also, many saints including st. Thomas Aquinas argued that non consecrated hands shouldn't touch our Lord.
1010c6 No.578069
why don't catholics call the consecrated host "He" instead of "it?"
312dee No.578070
>>578069
Do you call your finger he? Or any part of your body? Sorry, you wanted to sound smart but you asked a very dumb question.
1010c6 No.578071
>>578070
that's rude, i was geniunely curious.
so it's just a part of His body and not His full body?
2e62fc No.578072
>>578071
He is wrong actually. It's the whole body.
312dee No.578073
>>578071
It's obviously not our Lord's entire person, so it doesn't warrant a He. Medical examinations of eucharistic miracles found that it's actually a part of the heart, but I'm not inclined to think you'd believe it.
e21ae0 No.578074
>>578071
There's a lot about Eucharist that isn't understandable. Christ is really present in the Eucharist, in both species. And that may suffice. Many books have been written; but our priest said in a good homily that the depths of the mystery are beyond human knowledge. We don't really know how Eucharist works.
3b6fc9 No.578078
>>578056
>i believe in Sola Scriptura for the entire Bible except for that one part of the Bible where Jesus Christ literally establishes the most important sacrament, the Eucharist
49ad86 No.578079
>>578073
>Medical examinations of eucharistic miracles found that it's actually a part of the heart
Link to the actual medical examinations?
e0c0b0 No.578081
>>578073
Miracle of Lanciano, for reference
312dee No.578082
49ad86 No.578083
>>578082
>Shrug at the Wikipedia link and click it anyways
>All links are purple
I MEAN THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT
WRITTEN OUT REPORT ON PAPER
WHY IS THIS SO HARD TO FIND? DID THE JEWS HIDE IT?
312dee No.578084
>>578083
The note I quoted is a link to a 90mb document, download it and read it.
1010c6 No.578085
>>578072
>it's the whole body
>>578073
>it's just part of the heart
alright, thanks cathbros
e0c0b0 No.578087
Body and blood preserved from the miracle.
As a side note, fellow Catholics, if we are able to isolate the divine DNA from this portion, then implant that into a human egg cell through an in-vitro cloning process, will we end up with a middle eastern kid, orange tang, or a cloned victim of organ harvesting?
49ad86 No.578088
>>578084
Oh, there it is.
I suppose I sperged out early.
312dee No.578089
>>578085
It's ultimately irrelevant. The thing is, true presence is real. Ask satanists if you don't believe Catholics, they use consecrated hosts exclusively for their black masses.
2e62fc No.578097
>>578073
I don't know if God chooses yet another set of accidents for the same substance or whether the body changes into the heart in these cases, but under the usual circumstances, the whole Body is present.
1010c6 No.578098
>>578089
>It's ultimately irrelevant
opinion noted
>you should consult a satanist
thanks for the advice, but i'm not interested.
3d3617 No.578099
>>578087
Middle eastern kid. But I think that every facility which would try to do it would spontaneously catch on fire. Or froze in sudden blizzard. Or end up destroyed by earthquake. Or tornado. There have to be limits towards what God will take as blashermy against him/
3b6fc9 No.578100
>>578088
Not the guy you were talking to, but if you find Eucharistic miracles interesting, then you'll also enjoy reading about the Shroud of Turin.
Merry Christmas!
e0c0b0 No.578101
>>578098
We are celebrating Jesus by creating him anew in human, not loaf, form.
Why would this be blasphemy?
312dee No.578102
>>578098
Well you don't have to ask them, just google it. Also, one satanist said that if you put 9 unconsecrated hosts and 1 consecrated host in front of him he could pick out the consecrated one because of the sheer hatred he felt towards it.
1010c6 No.578103
>>578101
>Why would this be blasphemy?
when did i say or imply that it was?
i haven't even questioned the doctrine of real presence/true presence/transubstantiation in this thread,
all i asked was why the consecrated host was referred to as "it" instead of "He"
312dee No.578104
>>578103
>all i asked was why the consecrated host was referred to as "it" instead of "He"
Okay so it depends on what you're referring to. If you're referring to the host ie the outward appearance, then it's an 'it'. If you're referring to the substance ie the body of Christ, then it's a 'He'. Does this answer your question?
e0c0b0 No.578105
>>578103
Forgive my faggotry, remark directed toward >>578099
Another side note, is there a human cloning squad on 8ch? Can we steal the miracle flesh and resurrect our lord? We must implant the embryo inside a virgin, and create a new Mary to worship
1010c6 No.578107
>>578104
actually, yes. that makes sense.
especially since it's called the "host"
49ad86 No.578109
>>578105
>to worship
Nice slip here my Catholic friend, but remember there are protestants here so we have to tactically hide our worship as veneration :^)
f2d0a0 No.578112
>>578109
Use your orthodox powers of necromancy and polluting the air with 25 kilos of burned incense to raise up a suitable virgin, cause I don't think we can find a living one
e0c0b0 No.578113
>>578109
Kek, when will prots ever learn?
e0c0b0 No.578114
>>578112
>I don't think we can find a living one
Anon…I
87cbf3 No.578116
>>577992
I returned it to the priest, he gave me an absolution. I’m ready for the service. Thanks /christian/, I probably wouldn’t have returned it without you!
312dee No.578117
1010c6 No.578119
>>578116
ask the brunette with glasses out on a date
e0c0b0 No.578120
>>578116
God bless anon! You did what was necessary
fcc14f No.578123
>>578001
>YOU LITERALLY HAVE JESUS
lol.
fcc14f No.578124
>>578116
Phewf! Jesus is safe and sound now. Good job, OP.
312dee No.578125
>>578123
>lol.
My exact reaction when I saw the baptist flag in your post.
e0c0b0 No.578127
>>578123
>>578124
>Posts 3d
>BRRAAPtist
Sounds about right
4f4949 No.578136
>>578127
>thinks flat crackers are literally people
>thinks 2D anime girls are literally people
I'm beginning to notice a pattern here.
f896e1 No.578139
e0c0b0 No.578142
>>578136
>Thinks baptists are literally Christians
>Thinks roasties are literally human
You're the deluded one, kiddo
6c94d1 No.578143
>>578123
>>578124
I gotta admit … I'm impressed the Baptists stayed away for this long. I figured the OP subject alone would cause near immediate Baptist screeching and kvetching.
3b6fc9 No.578144
>>578136
"‘Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes has eternal life. I am the bread of life. Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. This is bread which comes down from heaven, that a man may eat of it and not die. I am the living bread which came down from heaven; if any one eats of this bread, he will live for ever; and the bread which I shall give for the life of the world is my flesh.’ The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, ‘How can this man give us his flesh to eat?’ So Jesus said to them, ‘Truly truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed’" (John 6:47-55).
"For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, ‘This is my body which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.’ In the same way also the cup, after supper, saying, ‘This cup is the new covenant of my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.’ For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes" (1 Cor. 11:23-26).
"Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord" (1 Cor. 11:27).
67f142 No.578166
>>578037
I will pray for you.
67f142 No.578167
>>578166
>>578116
Oh wait you already did it. Good man. Still, I'll pray for you.
6ef15d No.578169
didnt we have this very thread last christmas?
49a342 No.578196
>>578144
it's a cracker, bro..
7681e4 No.578230
>>578196
<This food we call the Eucharist, of which no one is allowed to partake except one who believes that the things we teach are true, and has received the washing for forgiveness of sins and for rebirth, and who lives as Christ handed down to us. For we do not receive these things as common bread or common drink; but as Jesus Christ our Savior being incarnate by God's Word took flesh and blood for our salvation, so also we have been taught that the food consecrated by the Word of prayer which comes from him, from which our flesh and blood are nourished by transformation, is the flesh and blood of that incarnate Jesus.
657d42 No.578238
>>578144
That passage in John 6 is all about his words. There is no supper, table bread or wine there. You're lying about what that whole Bible passage is about. See verse 63:
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Simon Peter understood that this was about the words of eternal life in the following verse 68. This has nothing to do with the Lord's supper.
02ec3c No.578329
>>578238
there's no pews in biblical churches either! enough with this pew heresy! nor electronics!
6c9133 No.578333
>>578329
There may be a sect out there somewhere that thinks that the pew in the church is the body of Christ, but that's probably not what that anon believes.
312dee No.578334
>>578230
No, no, Justin the martyr was wrong, my local pastor is right
>insert a Bible line here
You see, this line tells us how Justin is wrong, this interpretation of that line is correct and you should listen to me instead of a 1st century Christian.
>insert 3 hour 'debate' video
See, what the Apostolic Churches teach today is not actually what the Apostles taught, the man in the video proves it and you should believe him. You see, all that the Apostles taught was extinguished by a Mafia of clergy in the 1st century and a man 1500 years later finally discovered the truth.
6d9387 No.578340
>>577992
You desecrated a Eucharist on Christmas eve and sacrilegiously showing it off like some kind of trophy.
I don't think a lapsed Catholic looking to get back in the faith would do that. Glad I'm not you
49ad86 No.578385
>>578340
Are you autistic or something?
7ef94c No.578407
I'm glad to see you resolved this situation OP, I hope you have a merry Christmas!
This brings to mind a slightly different question I have: is it also wrong to throw away the sacramental bread, the stuff not used in the eucharist but was still blessed?
048d54 No.578419
>>577992
I'd mock this but with my luck the exact same thing would happen to me.
GIVE IT BACK
06f827 No.578422
9061c1 No.578439
>>578050
>>578060
I think receiving in the hand is also common in places like Germany, Belgium and stuff. It was originally priests in Belgium during the 60s who wanted to show solidarity with Protestants in denying the real presence of Christ. That's how it started. It's also by far the most common way in Canada.
3b6fc9 No.578440
>>578439
Western European baby boomers are the bane of our existence.
fcc14f No.578458
02ec3c No.578488
>>578116
Now, confess your sins and receive communion every Sunday. The way to Christ is through repentance and obedience.
2a5986 No.578912
Return it and ask for a Confession. Were you given the Eucarist by a priest or a "eucaristic minister"? Either way, never recieve in the hand. Priests are not allowed to force you to receive in the hand.
There are particles of the body of Christ in your pocket now. I suggest you find a way to clean them out properly.
232616 No.578949
>>578458
>Why its a mistake to give the Catholic Church support via membership or donations
4ae976 No.579370
I'm sorry but I laughed hysterically whilst reading this thread.
Besides the situation being very comedic in itself, you posting about it here and that guy asking why you don't call communion 'He' if it's Jesus, really cracked me up.
b814e5 No.579380
>>578458
>The eccentric dogma that the bread and wine are transformed into Jesus by the priest comes from tradition, not reason and not the Bible.
>What is the Holy Trinity
>Inb4 the Comma Johanneum is posted because it's in the infallible KJV (bpui)
>Inb4 the claim that the Holy Trinity is based upon reason
ab2c61 No.579382
>>578458
I read one random paragraph and it was ridden with enough fallacies to make me want to weep that anyone could actually fall for this bs.
657d42 No.579482
>>579370
People committing the sin of idolatry isn't funny and everything said here will be accounted for at the last judgement.
4ae976 No.579650
6e0167 No.579723
>Went to Church because I thought I should spend time with my family
>Bought into /pol/'s belief regarding "kikestianity", YHWH, black cube, Saturn, Moloch, Baal, etc.
>Don't bless myself with the holy water
>Don't sing the hymns
>The time for communion comes and I take the bread, put it in my pocket and then later, throw it in the bin
I'm a Catholic. I was baptised. I even received communion before having my First Communion because I didn't know better. I had my Confirmation. I've been dealing with an attached demonic entity for some time now and I didn't want to further worsen my situation. Now I'm desperate and considering returning to sincere Catholicism. Is it too late for me? I don't want to lose my soul to a fucking /jp/ meme.
198b0c No.579724
>>578082
>dying man
Guess it isn't Jesus Christ, then.
86682c No.579794
>>579723
>Now I'm desperate and considering returning to sincere Catholicism. Is it too late for me?
Why would it be?
6e0167 No.579798
>>579794
Because I binned the body of Christ. Did you not read my post?
58ad12 No.579799
>>579798
Mark 3:28 Truly I tell you, the sons of men will be forgiven all sins and blasphemies, as many as they utter.
ab2c61 No.579810
>>579723
Just go to confession, m8. It's never to late for anyone.
86682c No.579821
>>579798
>There is no offense, however serious, that the Church cannot forgive. "There is no one, however wicked and guilty, who may not confidently hope for forgiveness, provided his repentance is honest. Christ who died for all men desires that in his Church the gates of forgiveness should always be open to anyone who turns away from sin.
>Jesus' call to conversion and penance, like that of the prophets before him, does not aim first at outward works, "sackcloth and ashes," fasting and mortification, but at the conversion of the heart, interior conversion. Without this, such penances remain sterile and false; however, interior conversion urges expression in visible signs, gestures and works of penance.
>Interior repentance is a radical reorientation of our whole life, a return, a conversion to God with all our heart, an end of sin, a turning away from evil, with repugnance toward the evil actions we have committed. At the same time it entails the desire and resolution to change one's life, with hope in God's mercy and trust in the help of his grace. This conversion of heart is accompanied by a salutary pain and sadness which the Fathers called animi cruciatus (affliction of spirit) and compunctio cordis (repentance of heart).
86682c No.579823
dde7b1 No.579847
>>579723
Holy hell, dude
>I've been dealing with an attached demonic entity for some time now and I didn't want to further worsen my situation
Why the fuck do you think that would be the case, Christanon?
Do you realize what you have done? I don't think you do, or can.
Confess immediately and do penance for however long you need to until you can have communion again.
>throwing the Body of Christ in the fucking trash
You hear some things in life, I swear. Lord have mercy.
What is your name, or a name I can use? I want to pray for you.
513055 No.579851
>>579847
>What is your name
Do you think a name is necessary to pray for someone? Does the Father not see in secret?
dde7b1 No.579852
>>579851
He doesn't need to tell me his name if he doesn't want to, but it's certainly easier to pray for somebody if you have a name in mind.
a1bb88 No.579978
>>578440
does the term baby boomer mean someone who boomed babies or a boomer who IS a baby?
06f827 No.579983
>>579978
A baby from a baby boom
a1bb88 No.579986
>>579983
Shouldnt it be "boomed baby" then?
its the baby who receives,not does,the action.
14fc18 No.580106
>he thinks the cracker was Jesus
02ec3c No.580114
>>580106
Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you.
and then:
>At this, the Jews began to argue among themselves, “How can this man give us His flesh to eat?
this is you, you are the Jew
42ef4f No.580151
If you want to save yourself some embarrassment, you can bury the sacred host outside. There is a spigot in the back of my church that runs directly into the ground–not into a sewer, that is used to dispose of the extra Sacred Blood from masses.
At least, that's what I remember from the class I took before becoming an extraordinary minister of Holy Communion.
198b0c No.580155
>>580114
The flesh profiteth nothing.
8fc104 No.580859
>>580155
I'm sure you could get at least 20 bucks for it