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ffa15a No.574797

I'm not necessarily someone well versed in conspiracy theories, but I've just stumbled upon this and to be honest it left me speechless…

Sorry, my english isn't very good (even if I understand it very well, I have difficulties at producing complex sentences, maybe I'm just not very confident), so I will just paste the introduction, I will not summarize it with my own words.

>Note: This is a transcript of three tapes on the "New Order of Barbarians", referred to on the tapes simply as the "new world system."

> Tapes one and two were recorded in 1988 and are the recollections of Dr. Lawrence Dunegan regarding a lecture he attended on March 20, 1969 at a meeting of the Pittsburgh Pediatric Society.

>The lecturer at that gathering of pediatricians (identified in tape three recorded in 1991) was a Dr. Richard Day (who died in 1989). At the time Dr. Day was Professor of Pediatrics at Mount Sinai Medical School in New York. Previously he had served as Medical Director of Planned Parenthood Federation of America. Dr. Dunegan was formerly a student of Dr. Day at the University of Pittsburgh and was well acquainted with him, though not intimately.

>He describes Dr. Day as an insider of the "Order" and although Dr. Dunegan's memory was somewhat dimmed by the intervening years, he is able to provide enough details of the lecture to enable any enlightened person to discern the real purposes behind the trends of our time. This is a transcript of a a loose, conversational monologue that makes for better listening than reading.

The parts below was the one I wanted to share you :

>BLENDING ALL RELIGIONS…THE OLD RELIGIONS WILL HAVE TO GO

> Another area of discussion was Religion. This is an avowed atheist speaking. And he said, "Religion is not necessarily bad. A lot of people seem to need religion, with it's mysteries and rituals - so they will have religion. But the major religions of today have to be changed because they are not compatible with the changes to come. The old religions will have to go. Especially Christianity.

>Once the Roman Catholic Church is brought down, the rest of Christianity will follow easily. Then a new religion can be accepted for use all over the world. It will incorporate something from all of the old ones to make it more easy for people to accept it, and feel at home in it.

> Most people won't be too concerned with religion. They will realize that they don't need it.

>CHANGING THE BIBLE THROUGH REVISIONS OF KEY WORDS

> In order to do this, the Bible will be changed. It will be rewritten to fit the new religion. Gradually, key words will be replaced with new words having various shades of meaning.

>Then the meaning attached to the new word can be close to the old word - and as time goes on, other shades of meaning of that word can be emphasized. and then gradually that word replaced with another word." I don't know if I'm making that clear.

>But the idea is that everything in Scripture need not be rewritten, just key words replaced by other words. And the variability in meaning attached to any word can be used as a tool to change the entire meaning of Scripture, and therefore make it acceptable to this new religion. Most people won't know the difference; and this was another one of the times where he said, "the few who do notice the difference won't be enough to matter."

>"THE CHURCHES WILL HELP US!"

> Then followed one of the most surprising statements of the whole presentation: He said, "Some of you probably think the Churches won't stand for this," and he went on to say, "the churches will help us!" There was no elaboration on this, it was unclear just what he had in mind when he said, "the churches will help us!" In retrospect I think some of us now can understand what he might have meant at that time.

> I recall then only of thinking, "no they won't!" and remembering our Lord's words where he said to Peter, "Thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build my Church, and gates of Hell will not prevail against it."

> So .. yes, some people in the Churches might help. And in the subsequent 20 years we've seen how some people in Churches have helped.

> But we also know that our Lord's Words will stand, and the gates of Hell will not prevail.

How can that guy predicted all of this ? It was 1969 at that time, and many of the changes announced at the conference already occurred (especially about contraception, family and homosexuality)

It's horrible, we really live in dark times, may our Lord help us… I just want these monstrosities to stop. I really hope God will punish them with His Wrath.

ffa15a No.574799

I even failed my greentext, sorry


e9cd6f No.574801

File: fcaa60c9fa6b4e0⋯.jpg (68.23 KB, 640x477, 640:477, therabbithole.jpg)

>How can that guy predicted all of this ? It was 1969 at that time, and many of the changes announced at the conference already occurred (especially about contraception, family and homosexuality)

>It's horrible, we really live in dark times, may our Lord help us… I just want these monstrosities to stop. I really hope God will punish them with His Wrath.

If you think these predictions are crazy, you've only seen the start of it.


e516a1 No.574804

File: dea438ca6b6b44b⋯.jpg (31.06 KB, 550x512, 275:256, dea438ca6b6b44bd90730a0850….jpg)

>It's horrible, we really live in dark times, may our Lord help us

You have no idea, lurk two years and read the Bible more.


ffa15a No.574805

>>574801

Something trouble me, the guy speaking at that conference is an avowed atheist, but how can he fail to see that the changes they're pushing will lead us to exactly what is predicted in Revelation ?

Are they eager to meet their own demise ?


e516a1 No.574812

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>>574805

>Are they eager to meet their own demise ?

No, they just genuinely think that they actually can defeat the Lord of lords and King of kings, the Lord God almighty and His Son Jesus Christ. Which of course they can't as it is said in revelation. But they have fallen to the wayside and stumbled at that stumbling stone that is Christ. They saith

>In order to do this, the Bible will be changed. It will be rewritten to fit the new religion. Gradually, key words will be replaced with new words having various shades of meaning.

>Then the meaning attached to the new word can be close to the old word - and as time goes on, other shades of meaning of that word can be emphasized. and then gradually that word replaced with another word." I don't know if I'm making that clear.

Matthew 15:5-6

>But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;

>And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.

Which is exactly what they did, have done, will do again, and thus have made the commandment of God of none effect by their tradition.


b904a2 No.574822

>thinly veiled kjvo thread

>>>/trash/


ee6f79 No.574832

File: a09697ccbb2e8ef⋯.jpg (118.96 KB, 665x717, 665:717, a09697ccbb2e8efaa6664bba32….jpg)


ffa15a No.574834

>>574822

I'm catholic, and since I'm not a native english speaker I can't be a KJV onlyist


11915b No.574849

>Once the Roman Catholic Church is brought down

>Once

Once that happens there will be but three and half year left till End times. And we are not in this seventh age but fifth, though at end of it.


e516a1 No.574857

>>574849

>three and half years till end times

Care to back that up with scripture? The only ones I can remember off the top of my head are the days till the end after the abomination appears in daniel 12 and of course revelation's timelines.


314e73 No.574859

>>574797

>How can that guy predicted all of this ? It was 1969 at that time, and many of the changes announced at the conference already occurred (especially about contraception, family and homosexuality)

Because commies had been pushing those things for years by 1969

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1561529/posts


e516a1 No.574862

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>>574859

>(((freerepublic.com)))


314e73 No.574864


617504 No.574868


e9cd6f No.574871

>>574832

>>574868

Huh? Is that a boy?


ee6f79 No.574873

>>574871

He's really mad because calling people conspiracy theorists doesn't work anymore, please let him have his stroke.


11915b No.574875

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>574857

Daniel and Revelation constantly interpreted since times of Apostles.

Good summary of it.


e36984 No.574876

>>574871

Research has shown anime posters are homosexual, I redirected him to his home board since he seems lost


e516a1 No.574877

>>574875

Here let me surmise the interpretation for you, it's literal and to be compared against other verses in the Bible for meanings of words. Revelation 13 in particular is of a certainty literal.


217b56 No.574879

>>574875

>Robert Bellarmine

How is a servant of Antichrist to exposit the true nature of Antichrist?

(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST)

6ccf90 No.574888

>>574797

This is a really solid post anon. The only thing that could make it better is if you had linked directly to the things that you quoted.


e9cd6f No.574893

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>>574805

>Something trouble me, the guy speaking at that conference is an avowed atheist, but how can he fail to see that the changes they're pushing will lead us to exactly what is predicted in Revelation ?

>Are they eager to meet their own demise ?

This deserves a very detailed response that would probably be several pages long. I plan to write a book on this and other subjects soon, but I can at least give the short version here. But the actions of the elites largely stem from Gnostic mystery cults and a sect of Judaism called Sabbateanism, as well as satanism. It is a syncretization of these things that has become the ideological backing for the actions of the top members of society. But the only way they can be meaningfully explained in this context is in relations to each other.

Firstly, on the relationship between Gnosticism and Judaism, it should be quite obvious. Gnosticism, as we now know, has its roots in Jewish and Greek asceticism from the 1st and 2nd centuries. But that's mainly not what I'm going to focus on here.

Gnosticism and Judaism are most evidently alike in the Jewish mysticism known as the Kabbalah. It's hard to explain in such a short time, but the Kabbalah teaches that man can reunite with God through meditating on the different words in it (pic 1 related, and apparently they represent something about how God created the world). Like the Gnostics, Jewish mysticism teaches that there is a divine spark present in each person which can all be reunited with the Godhead. This is especially present in the Gnostic sect called the Manichaeans, who believed that each person was a fragment of the Godhead and that they would all eventually be reunited into a non-conscious flat plane called the "realm of light" with no concept of "self". Yeah, if you've seen Neon Genesis Evangelion before, you know what I mean, but I kid you not, this stuff is for real. So specifically about Sabbateanism, Sabbateans believe that the Mashiach will only come when the world is either (1) completely pure, or (2) completely depraved. Now obviously, we can see which route the elites of the world have taken to pursue this "goal". Of course, they'll be met with a rude awakening when Christ comes to judge them for this shit, but I digress…

Secondly, about Judaism and satanism, they have been mixed together for a while now (considering the Jews frequent worship of Moloch and child sacrifice to him, but I digress;) but the primary beliefs that they share in this case are: firstly, the kabbalah: the famous satanist Alexander Crowley first proposed the idea that along each symbol of the Kabbalah "Tree of Life" there are demons that lurk there, and a person who meditates on them with evil intents will eventually descend into evil and become a satanist or "Black Brother"; secondly, the belief of being depraved and self-serving (see above about Sabbateanism). This desire to corrupt the world is found most prominently in satanism known as anti-cosmic satanism, which is pretty self explanatory. (They literally want to destroy everything.)

Lastly, on Gnosticism and satanism, there are a few points to make. Firstly, there is the concept of self-enlightenment found in multiple satanic cults (most prominently the Freemasons, especially the Scottish Rite) which amounts to a total worship of self (in the case of satanism). Secondly, we have the claims (you will see them on /pol/ and other places where mystery religions are practiced) that Jesus is Satan, Mary is Satan, etc. and all other sorts of satanic lies. These originally came from Gnosticism but you will always see these dumbass "free spirit" wicca shitheads saying things like that, just know that they come from Gnosticism. And lastly it comes back to anti-cosmic satanism and how it mixes so well with Manichaeism. The world is seen as a "realm of darkness" (contrasted to the "realm of light") that must be destroyed. A follower of this philosophy would be the Russian satanist Aleksandr Dugin (he's also the mastermind of the alt-right, but that's a WHOLE other story)

There's a lot I could get into historically about the reasons why the elite class have these beliefs in the first place, but it's a lot of stuff to write down and at times it can be hard to organize my thoughts. But yeah, this is what the elites believe and they ARE trying to bring about the end of the world. Thankfully, Christ will overpower them and He will win.


9a2bc2 No.574911

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>>574797

> I really hope God will punish them with His Wrath

Don't worry anon, He will


e516a1 No.574913

>>574893

>Thankfully, Christ will overpower them and He will win

Revelation 11:18

>And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Revelation 21:1

>AND I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

What great irony is it that Jesus is going to destroy them, just to destroy the first earth himself.

>Secondly, about Judaism and satanism, they have been mixed together for a while now

Just call it what it is, babylonian's religion. Why do you have all of this memorized anyways?


e9cd6f No.574917

>>574913

>Why do you have all of this memorized anyways?

This is just a small fraction of what I know, and it's primarily because I'm going to write a book which touches on these things, but also because it's very easy for me to memorize things and I do a lot of reading on a multitude of issues, including the false religions.


e516a1 No.574918

>>574917

Care to tell me about what happened with the kikes before the 15th century but after 2 kings 24? I thought they were just babylonians of chaldea larping as jews because of daniel 9 and 11. Anything else to know about them?


a39539 No.574942

>>574893

Even though the villains are destined to lose, there are going to have to be massive changes in the church, due how easily so many denoms were exploited and subverted. The only one that seemed immune to this was Orthodoxy, but maybe instead of others changing survival of the fittest will decide that's the only Christianity that will make it through alive. I'm just observing, but you seem much smarter than me so what do you think will happen?


b4fda7 No.574943

>>574797

Post the source please.


e9cd6f No.574957

>>574918

>>574942

I would really like to respond to these posts, but I'm really tired and exams start tomorrow. I have a lot on my plate and I'm really stressed out, sorry. Hopefully I'll be able to write my opinions on these things later, though.


11915b No.574973

>>574877

>There is only literal sense of Bible, especially prophecies

Dude.


e516a1 No.574980

>>574973

I think revelation 13 is literal because revelation 17:8's description of the beast that was, and is not, yet shall be. And that because of that description, a hologram or computer generated image fits best for something that existed, but does not exist, yet shall be which is entirely possible in cy+2. So not only does it make more sense comparing it against revelation 17:8, but because of revelation 17 defining the terms used in revelation 13 as to make it as sensible as it could possibly be.

What's your interpretation of revelation 13 or whatever portion of the Bible is bothering you and what do you base it off of? As no prophecy of scripture is of private interpretation which is to say 2 peter 1:20.

what is this thread trying to be?


ffa15a No.575015


2dabf3 No.575141

>>574799

It's okay. I got hopelessly bored after the first few words anyway and stopped reading

it just sounded like the stark-raving gibberish rantings of a madman




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