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"My kingdom is not of this world"

Technically very limited economic socialism in one country is somewhat Biblical given the Laws in the Five Books of Moses outlining limited wealth redistribution to the poor and windows, but not anarchism, nor Socialism as the word is used today to refer to totalitarian government ownership of all property and unlimited intrusion into all aspects of life, nor the Satanic social policies associated with leftism, nor the one world government Socialism pushed by the left.

>>574389

No leftypol, you won't win over the Christians. If you read your history books you'd know why Christianity is not compatible with your agenda.

Ideology is just a false religion without a metaphysical deity. Satan isn't in hell he walks the earth. This world is his. When you worship the world you worship Satan. To have faith in mankind's invented ideologies you worship Satan. You're saying we have found a way to rule ourselves better than God can rule us. You can't worship Satan and the Lord at the same time. The bible doesn't teach us to revolt against the modern world it tells us to revolt against the world.

That all sounds pretty gay. How about being a CHRISTIAN? That other shit doesn’t matter at all. Think critically about lifestyle and character values in terms of the teachings of our Lord.

The Bible tells us to obey government (unless it tells us to sin), but not to take part in it or try to control it. It emphasizes unworldliness. Not being too attached to the things of the world and recognizing that God's kingdom is not of this world. The impression that I get is that we are to maintain some detachment from government. We are just here for a short time. When people get too wrapped up in politics they end up excusing evil when 'their team' is responsible. Look at some of Trump's behavior, and how Christians and conservatives defend or ignore it.

I would not say Christianity is anarchistic exactly, but I see where people get that. I see it as more 'apolitical' in a sense. Not that we don't care what government does but we recognize that it not our focus what earthly governments do. Our most important citizenship is in heaven.

>>574407

>My kingdom is not of this world

>But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;

I think participating in democracies is okay to try to minimize damage by voting for the lesser evil. However that should not be seen as an endorsement, but as the least bad option.

>>574389

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decree_against_Communism

>>574389

socialism is a revolt against the modern world? The modern world shills socialism

Being socialist is mortal sin period.

>>574506

holy shit is this still in effect?

Socialism, at least Bernie Sanders style rather than the original 'workers controlling means of production' socialism, isn't all that much more christain than the current system. Christian anarchism, however, is truly christian. We should serve nobody other than God himself.

Read 'The kingdom of heaven is within you' by Leo Tolstoy

>>574583

I've never heard of a retraction

>>574586

>we should rebel to all authority

>here, read this modern fiction author

Your life is a meme, bro

>>574590

tbh distributism is 'socialist' to me, especially considering Marx often slandered any anti-capitalist critique that wasn't his own as mere 'socialism'

I have to admit, I'm favorable to the idea of Christians forming communities where essential services and properties are shared in common. But that's just about the only part of mainstream socialist/communist thought that the Church should condone. Ultimately, I believe the consequences of forcing such a system on people who don't want to live that way would outweigh the any potential benefits. And any idea of humanity's civilizational peak that hasn't anything to do with communion with God is contrary to our faith.

I'm also of the opinion that civil authority is a construct given to us divinely, to encourage the better behaviors of people and to discourage/punish the worse ones. This isn't to say that people in positions of authority are beyond reproach; Christians should be the first people to speak out against a perceived injustice. But eliminating all traces of top-down authority entirely straddles the line in-between improbable and inadvisable.

>>574389

Stop mixing politics with the faith. The Church makes saints. And it does that through supernatural means. Politics are worldly matter and are ot of concern for the aspiring saints.

It becomes worse, when someone aligns the faith with politics. Like the "white christiantiy" guys form /pol/. Aboslutely [redacted].

Care for a Christ-like life. The rest will comes naturally. See >>574407

>>574624

Turns out later in life he went full christian

>>574736

He called his own stuff socialism too. He called anything that wasn't his own work 'utopian socialism' derogatorily, while saying his own work 'scientific socialism'.