I wonder, what brings us closer to God, happiness or misery?

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Christanon 12/13/17 (Wed) 20:54:59 b019e8 No.572802

I wonder, what brings us closer to God, happiness or misery?

Christanon 12/13/17 (Wed) 21:58:54 ff0fb2 No.572830

A clear mind and a faithful heart. How you acquire those is up to you.

Christanon 12/13/17 (Wed) 22:04:09 8916cf No.572837

Good question! I think misery.

>17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

Psalm 51

Christanon 12/13/17 (Wed) 22:21:36 3c80d8 No.572841

>>572802

depends.

Christanon 12/13/17 (Wed) 22:25:21 bd3056 No.572842

I'm not sure if I've ever experienced real misery. I guess it's all relative.

Christanon 12/14/17 (Thu) 14:42:43 497553 No.573207

>>572842

I do.

Christanon 12/14/17 (Thu) 14:45:32 497553 No.573208

>>572830

you say that not yet got really bad

and in distress, faith melts like ice.

Christanon 12/14/17 (Thu) 14:52:06 0c8f68 No.573209

Misery makes me hate God because I know he can ease the pain effortlessly, but chooses not to.

Christanon 12/14/17 (Thu) 16:01:27 a0d96a No.573221

Suffering. Definitely.

Christanon 12/14/17 (Thu) 17:11:52 c46a76 No.573242

>>572802

Depends on what you count as happiness or misery:

The world that hates us and Him which strengthens our faith?

Every time you look up the sky and still see the blues of it and thanked Him for another day, every time you look to the side and see people smiling, every time you witness His wonderful creation you reside in and reminds you of Him.

I would say everything brings us closer to God if we always have Him with us in the first place.

Christanon 12/14/17 (Thu) 17:16:34 ab5d0b No.573244

both

Christanon 12/14/17 (Thu) 17:27:01 e7e18a No.573246

>>572802

Misery is the stick and happiness is the carrot. Punishment for sin and reward for not sinning are equal and bring us to the polar opposites of eternal reward or eternal punishment.

Fear of the Lord is the beginning of all wisdom.

Christanon 12/15/17 (Fri) 01:23:44 45c2c8 No.573379

My grandfather died today after I prayed to God last night/early morning hours to rebuke and punish me for my sins that I am currently in but to not forget me. Do you think this is His justice? My grandfather did not believe in God. Do you think God would let your own grandfather die as a punishment for not following his will?

More to the point of the thread, I think misery in my experience has brought me closer to God than anything else, most of the times I've felt "happy" in my life were not based on pure things but instead fellowship with the faithless, sexual passions being stroked and social mischief that served my own ego. And when I fall into sins now, all I think about is how God could strike me down at any moment for my evil. What is wrong with me?

Christanon 12/15/17 (Fri) 05:03:10 ffa21b No.573463

>>573379

That is Fear of God and Fear of Sin I think, some called it "conviction" as in you know you are in the wrongs and your upcoming sentences. Nothing wrong as long as you repent and confess and refrain from sinning real hard.