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69fb66 No.572080

Why is it in the Bible? It isnt even written by an apostle right?

1ec586 No.572082

>>572080

It was actually written by the Apostle John. It was written to show the servants of Christ events that were/are going to happen in the future (as of the writing).


f97f2d No.572084

>>572080

*Papias chuckles


53d599 No.572093

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Luther wanted to remove it so I'm not sure if its canon or not.


e5e8ce No.572095

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>>572093

>Luther removing a book means its suspect


3ea53a No.572097

>>572080

>It isnt even written by an apostle right?

Where did this meme come from? It was written by John the Apostle. I don't believe any of the early church fathers say otherwise.


789fec No.572108

>>572097

uh oh but some modern scholars say it wasn't and they literally can't be wrong!!!!!!!


77ef98 No.572140

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>>572080

>>572108

>it isnt even written by an apostle right?

Modern scholarship can be fruitful at times, but they go too far sometimes, usually in the hope of making a name for themselves. It's more profitable to espouse a new error than to support an established truth.


df9cf4 No.572188

>>572080

John wrote it on Patmos, it was a vision of what is to come for encouragement during a severe persecution.


838f24 No.572205

>>572080

The Revelation of John is written by an Apostle, it is still in the original language and is still available to us today in received form. So for this, and because it is self-evidently Scripture, it is considered the word of God. As 2 Timothy 3:16-17 says, "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works." So therefore we should include it in the Bible.


62aafb No.572458

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>>572093

wtf I hate Esther, Revelation, Hebrews, James, and Jude now


1d2a82 No.572459

>>572458

this meme never made sense to me

it's like:

>remove cancer from body

>body is cancer-free


838f24 No.572462

>>572459

Luther is actually the reason Catholics call it the "deutero"canon. It was his idea to single out those books and the Roman Catholic church took his idea to call those seven books differently, except they decided to call them "the second" canon instead. Hard to believe, but true.


094992 No.572470

>>572462

not really

>Deuterocanonical is a term coined in 1566 by the theologian Sixtus of Siena, who had converted to Catholicism from Judaism, to describe scriptural texts of the Old Testament considered canonical by the Catholic Church, but which are not present in the Hebrew Bible today, and including some texts which had been omitted by some early canon lists, especially in the East.

it's easier to claim he "forced" the issue, but Sirach and Wisdom in particular are used pretty extensively throughout the writings of the Church Fathers.


62aafb No.572489

>>572459

>remove a finger you've always had because your Jewish neighbor removed his.

>body is now missing a finger


1d2a82 No.572502

>>572489

yeah yeah i get your canon is different from mine.

do you see what i'm saying though?

it's like:

>allow X to be true

>X is true

the labels aren't two mutually exclusive things that the presser has to decide between, he can just hit the left one and the effect of the right one happens.


c25520 No.572569

>>572502

The problem is that if you take out the books you don't like because they're theologically uncharitable to you, then it's ridiculous to say you hold the Bible as your sole, infallible source of doctrine when you moulded it around your beliefs rather than the other way around.


0e91ed No.572577

Is there a single book in the Bible with accurate authorial attribution? You'd think with so many dozens of books that at least ONE would have the correct byline, just by law of averages. But no. Every attribution is dead wrong. Of course every book is actually a composite written by thousands of different totally anonymous authors, like a Wikipedia article, that was originally dropped in the mailbox at night by a masked man who rode away on horseback never to be seen again, then edited (censored!) by those horrible anti-Semitic Catholic Nazis to slander wymen and persyns of alternative love, then copied by sleepy drunk monks who interpolated every second word and threw pages together at random, and translated it all through a hundred different languages so the originals (which no doubt advocated World Socialism) are now lost, all just so Republicans could have an excuse to voice political opinions I don't like. Thank goodness that agenda-free liberal atheist Marxist (((scholars))) using the Higher Criticism have corrected the record. I don't know where we'd be if we had to actually listen to what the Bible says.


646214 No.572649

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>>572140

>pic

top meme


d00925 No.572669

>>572084

*the holy spirit at the council of Carthage chuckles


3ac496 No.573027

Fully 3/4 of the verses in Revelation reference something from the Old Testament. If you don't know your prophets forward and backward, you're gonna have a hard time slogging through this book.

BTW the third beast, the beast of the earth, is the heretical so-called "churches" of modern times, you know, the ones who marry fags and have dikes as "priests," and the ones who share a "gospel" of "health and wealth" when Jesus himself said we'd suffer on this life for believing in Him


838f24 No.573041

>>572470

No he just randomly chose a few books and everyone else agreed on his choice. That's why Catholics call it "deuterocanon." Good thing he didn't remove Genesis, that could have been bad. And he was very, VERY close to taking out other certain books as many catholics will tell you. It's truly terrifying how close he got.


cf2e8b No.573270

And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star that had fallen out of heaven onto the earth, and he was given the key to the shaft leading down to the Abyss. He opened the shaft of the Abyss, and there went up smoke from the shaft like the smoke of a huge furnace; the sun was darkened, and the sky too, by the smoke from the shaft. Then out of the smoke onto the earth came locusts, and they were given power like the power scorpions have on earth. They were instructed not to harm the grass on the earth, any green plant or any tree, but only the people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads. The locusts were not instructed to kill, only to inflict pain on them for five months; and the pain they caused was like the pain of a scorpion sting. In those days people will seek death but will not find it; they will long to die, but death will elude them.

Now these locusts looked like horses outfitted for battle. On their heads were what looked like crowns of gold, and their faces were like human faces. They had hair like women’s hair, and their teeth were like those of lions. Their chests were like iron breastplates, and the sound their wings made was like the roar of many horses and chariots rushing into battle. And they had a king over them, the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue his name is Apollyon.




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