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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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eccd78 No.568632

Why do you believe in God?

980716 No.568635

I experienced it, and it felt real. I've gone too far to turn back now.


b9c863 No.568638

>>568632

I'm elected.


f6c643 No.568643

>>568632

because He exists


ffb164 No.568644

>>568632

Because God believes in me.


599987 No.568646

cuz hes a bretty cool guy who doesnt afraid of anything


982c8b No.568648

Because we live in a world that is so degenerated to the point of not being able to perceive basic truth and law and that God's word keeps reminding me that He still loves me despite how painful the truth gets the more you know. He bears witness of His existence through it.


fc394b No.568651

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>>568632

That's a complicated question. It depends on what you mean by "God". You see, I believe that that we are here implies to some degree that there are forces larger than us. Now, we can get into the semanticalities of this, but the very notion of belief itself can be rhetorically whittled to the bare nub of its meaning. I'd like to talk to you a lot more about this. Would you be interested in reading some of my literature?


0941fe No.568698

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By observing the natural world I have found that it strongly suggests the existence of a creator. However, a suggestion is not enough. I believe because God has planted the seed of faith in my heart and it has grown and shaped me.


15b9f7 No.568702

>>568632

Because He's the only thing that will last in the end.


5c0dbb No.568719

>>568651

jordan peterson pls go n stay go


6f0870 No.568726

>>568632

I received the gift of faith after studying the creation in the Bible (Genesis) and accepting the whole Bible as truth.


4a12f8 No.568729

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>>568719

>he doesn't recognize Xavier Renegade Angel


60a110 No.568743

>>568632

I've always had a sense of faith in the higher power.

As for why I believe in our God and savior, I've had personal experiences that can only be attributed to God.


8e5dc2 No.568747

I don't.

I want to believe.


8ec827 No.568748

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>>568719

>he doesn't recognize Xavier Renegade Angel


6f0870 No.568749

>>568747

>I want to believe.

Pray for it.


a2737d No.568752

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>>568632

Just to piss off reddit.


0941fe No.568753

>>568747

Try to pray the prayer "Lord, I believe, help my unbelief!"


fc8410 No.568774

>>568632

it sticks better than atheism or hermeticism stuck, and so here I am


229a2a No.568781

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>>568632

Because Jesus Christ rose from the dead.


1f3baa No.568822

I removed Quantum mechanics out of the equation due to logical reasoning, and a better system. Known and still existent miracles.


a0e4d4 No.568823

Because despite being a disgusting degenerate criminal the King chose to pardon me and allow me to be His servant.

I was corrupt yet He chose to pour out His love and allow me to enter His Church to be healed.


4caa8f No.568844

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My mind, spirit and body leading me to him I don't have many options to choose or change my destiny, I just follow my experiences


47cfa6 No.568868

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Because there is nothing else in the world except degeneracy.


715711 No.568883

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because the world exists. because I exist. because love & goodness exist, and none of these make any sense except in light of God.

Why would anything exist at all? Because God.

Also the more I think about God the more I realize the ontological argument is pretty decent, the highest being would exist by nature/essence, there's no other option God has to exist, yet he exists in a way that is totally free since he is infinite, not bound.


2ace5a No.568885

God

∞ -> 0123456789

No God

0 -> 123456789


8aa772 No.568890

>>568632

This is a selfish reason, but I am terrified of death. To the point I dropped being a physician and going to medical school because I cannot take it without breaking. I am terrified of nothingness, eternal dreamless sleep of non-existence. I want afterlife, I want continued existence.

Even with the Truth. I fear the moment that I have to cross that threshold, even if it is just a split second. Yes, I am scared and of little faith to the point that maybe, maybe even if our Lord literally come to hold and comfort me at that moment, I will still be a little scared. So I wish for the End Time to come very soon, that I would be on the side of the living instead of dead when He judges all.


18ea2d No.568914

I came looking for a qt virgin gf and I found Jesus and now I'm probably going to be celibate my whole life not even joking lads


1ffe47 No.568944

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>>568632

to overcome unlimited suffering and suicide.


58ac78 No.568949

Because the Church teaches that God exists. I don't any further proof.


715711 No.568954

>>568949

>church you decided to follow has primacy over God

bad b8


58ac78 No.568958

>>568949

The Church is the very presence of God. It is in the Church that the Holy Spirit resides, the Church herself is the Body of Christ, and the only pathway to the Father. God bought it at the price of His Son's blood.

I'm not sure I understand your dichotomy between God and the Church. Not to say the Church "is" God, but the Church is the salvation from God. I believe God exists because God Himself, through His Church, says so.


58ac78 No.568963


715711 No.568971

>>568958

>I'm not sure I understand your dichotomy between God and the Church.

You don't need any church to believe God exists. Church is there to fill in some of the details of who God is, to form a community of like minded folks who can sustain a religion.

But God has primacy over all.

You shouldn't get to God just because a Church says so. You should get to God and then find his church.


31b0d2 No.570010

>>568747

work for it


0420dd No.570028

>>568632

>Why do you believe in God?

because the alternative is suicide.


6be6dc No.570133

>>568632

I am theoretical physicist. Over the course of my studies I learned that this universe is so ridiculously well-tuned - natural constants beings natural constants up to infinity(!) after the comma, otherwise the universe would literally collapse or blow up in an instance, the fact that we literally have an abstract language with which we can describe the universe and what happens there and beyond our direct anticipation (that is: nanoscales, but also macroscales like weather etc.) etc. - that there must be God.

So then you go from there: Which "religion" has it right ? In the end you have to come to the conclusion of Christ and the Trinitarian God. Why, you ask ? Because we have physical evidence of Christ - the historical figure. We have physical evidence that points towards Christ - God. We have a faith that spread not through the sword, but through preaching the gospel. We had people that gladly died professing their faith for a man that preached to love each other as you love yourself.

Now, I understand that one might still be skeptic - that's natural and prolly (maybe ?) a good thing. Some books that helped me on my journey: Mere Christianity, C.S. Lewis; The Language of God, Francis S. Collins; The Lord of the Rings trilogy and the Hobbit, J.R.R. Tolkien :^). Obviously the last one is rather jokingly, the first two, however, are very valuable.

And to point you towards some of the evidence:

The shroud of Turin:::

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/08/990803073154.htm

http://www.pravoslavie.ru/english/105146.htm

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/434153/shroud-turin-jesus-christ-blood-relic-sudarium-oviedo

Eucharist Miracles and the blood type of Christ:::

https://youtu.be/aq8FASjYIlo This video shows 2 different Eucharist Miracles (hosts turning into flesh), several hundreds of years apart, having the same blood type

http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/mir/lanciano.html

Not only did the hosts turn into any "type" of flesh. They turned into a heart muscle(!).

But we have more: St. Padre Pio of Pietrelcina - a man, a saint, of the just passed century. A man with Stigmata - a man that had literal physical trouble with Satan on a regular basis. We have exorcists - the two most famous here being Fr. Chad Ripperger, an American, and Fr. Gabriele Amorth from Italy (who sadly passed away some years ago). The latter is THE most influential and famous exorcist that has existed since Christ. And we have a myriad more saints, each one unique in their workings - dragon slayers, ascetics, kings, beggars, beggars that were kings - and so on and so forth.

After all and last but not least: Believing in God is a choice you make - though deep faith itself is a gift from God Himself, of course. But you choose to swear allegiance to Him - through Baptism, Confirmation - taking the Sacraments and sacramentals (regularly). A choice on should gladly make, being pointed to the evidence.

And don't forget this: We ought to become saints - but the Church … God Himself … accounts for our fallen and highly sin-attracted nature, because by confessing and atoning, you can wash yourself off of sin - even of the greatest sin (as long as it is not blasphemy against the Holy Spirit).

Sorry this is a wall of text, but we have it all - all the evidence - and the evidence is suitable for "techincal people", such as me, but also "spiritual" people and everyone. For everyone layed out right before their eyes.

And what I presented here is of course only a tiny ass fraction of it all.

So make your choice: Go you believe in God, because He is he who is - or do you wilfully choose to ignore it ? I mean this is something naturally easy - but I understand when people need time to digest. But ultimately you have to make this choice - whether now or in 5 years, you won't miss out on it.

So far, have a good one and God bless you


7db177 No.570142

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>>568632

First I was convinced of his presence through reason and readings

Then I felt His presence

Then I saw Him and His Holy Mother.

>pic related


1db5f9 No.570151

an feeling beyond the subjective, an objective personal understand beyond human conventions of understanding. the opening of the eyes of my heart to eternal things.


34a690 No.570161

>>570133

Good post.

Why Catholic though? The Eucharistic miracles rule out those who deny the real presence, but why Catholicism exactly?


6be6dc No.570167

>>570161

Please don't make this a "but my apostolic Church is the real one"-thread. OP asked why we believe in God, and this is something for another discussion.


34a690 No.570171

>>570167

You're putting words in my mouth.

We would apply your argument to yourself as well - OP asked why we believe in God, not why we believe in Christianity, and yet you explained why you believe in Christianity. That is why I was curious to know why not only God, and not only Christianity, but also Catholicism, since you had expressed your path to your religion so well so far.

But, nevermind, I guess.


9ac47e No.570457

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>>568632

because, by all historical evidence, Jesus was real, did miracles, taught stuff, and rose from the dead, and the miracles, teachings, and resurrection all point to the God who the isrealites worshiped. Plus he's also the actual coolest thing in the world and loves me.


667510 No.570498

>>570457

>He taught stuff,

> taught stuff,

>he did some miracles or something

>bible says so God is rael

>believing in God through "historical evidence" and biblical accounts

OH Boy, this won't end well for you.

Belief in God should be something much more fundamental than what we have as historical accounts and so forth. I'm talking about God qua God, not details about his triune appearances and incarnation. Before all that, there is God.


9ac47e No.570516

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>>570498

yeah, I know, but to convert the normies we can't start off with know-in-my-soul stuff. Of course I have faith other than historical stuff, that's just obvious. I rather dislike your assumption that I only have surface level faith. I'm just giving specific reasons for believing in God, like the OP asked for.

I also don't understand your "this won't end well for you" statement. Wouldn't a faith based off of intellectual facts eventually lead to a faith based off of spiritual facts? Even if I was as you assumed, shouldn't it be cause for rejoicing that I acknowledge Jesus' sacrifice and the love of God? Though I am fallible, it seems to me as though you should learn to be more kind and reserve your judgments until all facts have been learned.


2e1a84 No.570529

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>>568719

>he's not reading it in Xavier: Renegade Angel's voice


5eee7e No.570553

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>>568632

I believe in god because of Aristotle. Deism is just cool.


ca1a62 No.570991

>>568632

>why do you believe in God?

Because He never lies


f563f0 No.570993

>>568747

Calvinists please explain


5ec263 No.571005

>>568632

Because God is objectively right. I thank him for providing us the proper doctrine.


6f0870 No.571009

>>568632

>Why do you believe in God?

He is the only truly good power in this universe.


ec7ef0 No.571013

>>568632

Because I believe in eternity.


375cd9 No.571018

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because I believe the creative source of reality and life, the universe and myself is One, Infinite, Eternal, and Intelligent . Nothing else makes sense.

This couldn't have happened for no reason, blindly, or pointlessly.

I also think God takes care of everything, and puts everything in its rightful place; ultimately all wounds will be healed and all our brain-damage and sins and souls will be mended.

Good will triumph over evil, evil and all its consequences will be overcome and all things will be well, all manner of things will be well.




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