/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

>Catholic

>LARPing

>New

>>565829

New kind of LARP from the looks of it. You can always give money for their Deus Vult fundraiser, but who knows where it really goes.

>>565830

>pot calling the kettle black this hard

I see no problem with funding or helping Christian militias, they actually exist in the Middle East. Would you help the Templars or Teutons who helped Catholics as LARPers?

>>565845

tone it down turk rape baby

>>565837

How would I be shooting myself in the foot? I'm not sweeping members of the Catholic Church LARPing under the rug here, if you're referring to basically admitting that they do LARP then sure I'm shooting myself then; it's of course a problem here that even Catholics have to admit. I'm just saying out of all people to address the problem of "deus vult ave maria" LARPing we have on here, I don't think the Orthodox church is much better off with all of their "bears and blessing guns" stuff they post here as well. Hence the proverb I used which implies faults on both fronts.

>>565839

>>565840

>>565842

>>565843

>>565845

Lol. All this needs is a diaperpost.

>>565829

>find some random ass website

>s-surely this is real, right guys? r-right?

Welcome to the internet.

>>565829

Calling protestants Christian is a stretch honestly

>>565888

For there shall be then great tribulation, such as hath not been from the beginning of the world until now, neither shall be. And unless those days had been shortened, no flesh should be saved: but for the sake of the elect those days shall be shortened.

We must remember that if all the manifestly good men were on one side and all the manifestly bad men on the other, there would be no danger of anyone, least of all the elect, being deceived by lying wonders. It is the good men, good once, we must hope good still, who are to do the work of Anti-Christ and so sadly to crucify the Lord afresh…. Bear in mind this feature of the last days, that this deceitfulness arises from good men being on the wrong side (Fr. Frederick Faber, Sermon for Pentecost Sunday, 1861)

What we have read, even though it is very terrible indeed, nevertheless should give us great comfort and hope, and strengthen our Faith. Cardinal Manning’s explanations about the Great Apostasy, the persecution, the Passion and apparent “Death” of the Church — all these things confirm what we are witnessing today. What this means is that what has happened since the death of Pope Pius XII, and what we are undergoing now, is not a contradiction of the Divine Plan, any more than the Crucifixion of our Lord was a defeat of His mission. To the contrary: It is all a part of the Divine Will, a necessary prelude to its final and complete fulfillment. What we are suffering now in this unprecedented time of ecclesiastical upheaval and confusion is not a sign that God’s promises have failed, but rather that God’s promises are being carried out. Divine prophecy is being fulfilled at this very moment. So, take heart: Everything is, so to speak, going according to plan — but that plan is the Way of the Cross, as it was for our Lord literally, so now for His Church mystically. It is not beautiful to behold, and it is filled with great sorrow and humiliation, but it is the path — the only path — that will lead us to eternal glory.

I honestly don't see the problem with this. Are my Orthobros suggesting we shouldn't offer security to persecuted Christians?

>>565910

>Catholic Flags

>Believes the pope is misled and will help the Antichrist

Time to stop larping

>>566011

Non-Governmental militas are not all that common, even if they exist.

>>566016

>Orthodox Russia is fighting a war for Christians in Syria

>this is what orthoprots actually believe

>>566035

Such a shame there aren't more icons of Saint Stalin

>>566035

What the fuck are the tiny pictures? It looks like a woman getting smothered with a pillow on the right! Any Russians or Russiaboos know the story?

>"Why would they protect only Catholics, and not all Christians ? "

Catholics are the only Christians

>.us

>larp site

hmmm makes you think

>>566106

Emphasizing this, I need answers

>>566350

>Syrian Christians are 100% behind Assad

As much as i dislike Putin and "strongmen", unironically this.

Assad may be a brutal autocrat, but he knows how to do one thing.

Keep religious minorities(christians, yazidis, etc.) from getting massacred, and represented in parliament.

Even ecumenical catholics, like David Bird, admit it.

>>566201

Your own Church disagrees.

>>566444

That's such a hateful statement. Are you not ashamed of doing this during a time of fast and prayer?

>>566450

I disagree with you, but that's not relevant. Not a reason to wish death upon them, even jokingly so.

>>566459

>The only Orthodox person who sympathizes with Catholics is Bartholomew who lives in a muslim city.

You do know that many, many Orthodox communities in Western Europe do the Divine Liturgy in Catholic churches that the Catholics are kind enough to lend us, right? No bishop would tolerate this if they came to the conclusion Catholics aren't Christians.

I also find it amusing that you'd throw a Patriarch under the bus.

>I wish death upon all the enemies of God, read Psalms.

Is this really how you were catechized? Your priest taught you that we must wish death upon all the enemies of God and that this is how the Fathers interpreted the Psalms? Do you even pay attention during the Divine Liturgy?

>>566444

>We'll just team up with Germany and wipe out all Catholic slavs.

are all orthosux just nazis who shield their retardedness with the teaching of christ?

>>566469

>A Church is just a building.

Catholic churches have relics under the altars.

Furthermore, churches are not just buildings - they are buildings built for religious purposes. Orthodox Christians will never do the liturgy in a butchery. Orthodox Christians will never do the liturgy in a mosque. Orthodox Christians will do the liturgy in a Catholic church if available. That already shows that we do not put them in the same category as atheists and Muslims and that we recognize one God.

>The Priest is just an erring man, so is the Patriarch.

So you're deliberately going against your spiritual father? I hope you confess this before tomorrow's Liturgy.

Orthodoxy is not a do-it-yourself religion. You speak the words of a pseudo-Protestant.

Furthermore, are the saints nothing more than random, erring men? Because none of them interpreted the violent passages of the Psalms the way you do. Either the Orthodox Church deserves a long-needed Reformation - one you should maybe lead - or you're going off a satanic path.

Under what jurisdiction are you?

>>566469

Also, you didn't respond to everything... How do you reconcile the Divine Liturgy's prayers with what you said above - that you pray for the death of the "enemies" of the Church?

>Mod has deleted all the posts of an Orthodox and banned them

>Again

Stop doing this, you incompetent tools.

I don't care that the guy acted stupid - You banned me and deleted my posts before too, and I asked a friend to ask you why in the meta thread, and you didn't even bother to respond.

If you can't handle any criticism of Catholicism, go straight to the point and rename us to /catholic/.

>>566497

Sad to have mods that can't even handle bantz, and I'm a catholic

>>566504

I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if the guy was a falseflagger. He at least deserved a warning for some of his comments.

But deleting all of somebody's posts then banning them is some KGB-tier crap.

>>566497

It's especially shameful considering posts like >>566413

This is a clear violation of rule 2, but they are allowed to get away with it cause they're c*thlick

**Also, too any mods reading this, banning and deleting all posts should only be used in the case of spam, porn, or gore. If two people are arguing, don't delete half the conversation. I have no context for any of this now,

>>566483

>>566486

> Orthodox Christians will never do the liturgy in a butchery. Orthodox Christians will never do the liturgy in a mosque.

>That already shows that we do not put them in the same category as atheists and Muslims and that we recognize one God.

>Furthermore, are the saints nothing more than random, erring men?

Funny, you pretend to know so much about the saints, yet St. Justin Popovic for one contended that Papists and Orthodox do not believe in the same God, but that Papists are humanists and believe in the human Pope. So either you are lying on your knowledge about saints, which God detests, or you are a Catholic pretending to be Orthodox. Furthermore, where does it say that Orthodox Christians would never hold the liturgy in a butchery or mosque? I can find no source, and in the Bible it says that God is with all who gather in his name.

There is not much to interpret in Psalms, or in the butcher of the Canaanites, but if you know a saint how sees a peaceful and tolerant angle in it, then sure, I will look into it. However, yet again you do not provide a source for any of your claims, which makes me very suspicious that you are trying to trick me.

>you pray for the death of the "enemies" of the Church?

>So you're deliberately going against your spiritual father?

As every true Christian I pray for the strength to destroy the enemies of God. My Patriarch is both against ecumenism and not a lover of Catholics - like almost every other Orthodox Patriarch, so I am absolutely not going against him, I just have my personal opinion on the methods (which might very well be his own too, I can't know).

As for the cucktholic mod who banned me: There is your so called brother in Christ. Were he truly my brother and as faithful in Christ as me, he would be duty-bound to correct my errors had I any. It's yet another proofs that Catholics are not Christians.

>>566413

whatever happened to muh heart of russian faitma meme? lol

>>566529

>Funny, you pretend to know so much about the saints, yet St. Justin Popovic for one contended that Papists and Orthodox do not believe in the same God, but that Papists are humanists and believe in the human Pope.

Nice job deflecting. Nowhere did I say that the saints do not agree that the Roman Catholics are heretical enough not to even pray with them.

>Furthermore, where does it say that Orthodox Christians would never hold the liturgy in a butchery or mosque? I can find no source, and in the Bible it says that God is with all who gather in his name.

Just… ask your priest if we would do the Divine Liturgy in a mosque if we were invited to. See what he'll tell you.

>here is not much to interpret in Psalms, or in the butcher of the Canaanites, but if you know a saint how sees a peaceful and tolerant angle in it, then sure, I will look into it. However, yet again you do not provide a source for any of your claims, which makes me very suspicious that you are trying to trick me.

I do not provide a source because I'd expect you to know the damn basics of our faith.

The answer to your request is "all of them that made commentary on the Psalms." How ignorant can you possibly be?

But if you want particular commentary on the Psalms, see the following saints:

Psalm 2: Hilary of Poitiers

3: Ambrose

8: Augustine

9: Isaac the Syrian

16: Ambrose, Jerome

20: Didymus the Blind, Gregory of Nyssa

21: Gregory the Theologian, Basil the Great

23: Gregory Palamas

27: Gregory Palamas

28: Basil of Caesarea

38: Gregory of Nyssa, John and Barsanuphius of Gaza

44: Justin Martyr, Athanasius of Alexandria, Jerome, Gregory Palamas

45: Gregory the Great, Basil the Great

46: Gregory Palamas

48: Basil of Caesarea

50: Gregory Palamas

61: Basil of Caesarea

62: Gregory Palamas

67: Athanasius of Alexandria, Didymus the Blind

70: Isaac the Syrian

76: Gregory of Nyssa, John and Barsanuphius of Gaza, Athanasius of Alexandria

81: Jerome

83: John Climacus

87: Athanasius of Alexandria

89: Gregory of Nyssa, Gregory Palamas

98: Jerome

108: Athanasius of Alexandria, John Chrysostom, Augustine, Jerome

118: John Chrysostom, Isaac the Syrian, Benedict of Nursia

126: John Chrysostom, Athanasius of Alexandria

138: Hilary of Poitiers, Basil of Caesarea

I can also tell you the Patristic understanding of particular Psalms you want to know about.

>>566529

>My Patriarch is both against ecumenism and not a lover of Catholics - like almost every other Orthodox Patriarch, so I am absolutely not going against him, I just have my personal opinion on the methods (which might very well be his own too, I can't know).

Do not deflect, that is dishonest. Who is your Patriarch?

>>565830

to be honest, both of us, Cats and Orthos, are pretty good at making such a fools of ourselves when it comes to this.

>>565845

No worries, he's supposedly unable to have babies, so we're all safe :3

(ironic post…)

this board is just like /pol/, all about hating others and insulting instead of helping out.

>>566582

You clearly don't understand how it works, then. Insults are a mean of helping.

>>566585

Constructive criticism and insults followed by a good teaching are; almost all I see here is just insults and that's it. Jesus called Peter Satan but then also provided a reason for that. He didn't just say "Peter you're an idiot" and left it at that.

>>566594

You won't typically see an anon call someone an idiot without having some sort of reasoning along with his post.

>>565848

mods will ban a legit thread asking about catholic scandals, but let this slide?

eat shit (in diapers) you hypocrite mods