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lol this guy makes Christians sound dumb, the face Changing is clearly being done by pulling a string connected to the mask pulling it off the face and storing it in the robes you can even see it slide of his face in one of the clips.

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>>561350

If you think some evidence is visible wrong than say something instead of making your own sarcastic thread about it.

>>561410

Keep professing yourself wise. Maybe you could collect thousands of dollars?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bian_lian#Four_ways_of_face-changing

>In 2003, Hong Kong pop star Andy Lau allegedly offered to pay Bian Lian master Peng Denghuai 3,000,000 yuan (ca. US$360,000) in order to learn the techniques. Although Lau did learn the techniques from Peng, both deny any money changed hands. Knowing the secret does not make it easy and thus far, Andy Lau has only learned how the masks are changed so quickly, but has not yet mastered the technique.

>>561419

This thread is not sarcastic at all, friend. I saw this video in that thread and wanted to make a thread devoted to it since it had a powerful impact on me.

>>561389

All that did was strengthen my faith in photoshop. But good documentary I suppose. The meme monastery should be recognized for the work done here.

>>561423

>All that did was strengthen my faith in photoshop.

Explain? Are you implying every clip, even of live performances, or in front of witnesses, was "Photoshopped"?

If so…

<John 5:31 The Inerrant Word of God AKA The King James Version

>If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

>>561424

Hey man I can get some ((live performances)) going. Still, I said it was a good documentary alrigth?

>>561423

It's the early acts that really hurt that video's credibility, the ones are easily explained, despite talking about something real.

Video related is basically talking about the same thing, only less flashy.

>>561422

Okay. If you have a lot of time i'd also recommend

>>561362 I also found the absolute need for God from discovering a great evil. Remember that Satan is weak to God. You should check out demonic oppression testimony, many have said that prayers to Jesus or a christian deliverance helped them over come demons.

>>561430

Thanks, I'm listening now and am about halfway through. He is critical of his Baptist church for teaching that Satan can't attack the saved, but not every Baptist church teaches that; although it is pervasive. I don't believe it, I believe demonic possession is possible.

>>561439

James & Lea D - Lea D's testimony https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOJF38yDWFw

TVC's playlist on testimonies, a lot of which are Ex-New Agers. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTHDvEc6d7JGATte0UfGQptshM2HsHGn1

TVC talks with a satanist and occultist and a wicca https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTHDvEc6d7JGxHyUzMiNDrvyqjW-Ll2Hb

More testimoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctucNZQljtw

Just as a warning, TVC is not a good speaker and his vocabulary is kind of off putting, but he understands the New Age since he was an Ex-New Ager. He makes a lot of videos talking about symbolism.

TSME does similar content as TVC only he goes into much more detail regarding how these forces are using symbols to change us https://www.youtube.com/user/TheScariestMovieEver/videos

He does an nice summary of saturn worship https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NirJzmPnaE8

If you haven't seen this already a video debunking a popular belife from pagans, occultists and gnostics that think that God is saturn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rzo-cJgeKT4

debunking Jesus being a copy of Horus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDQOZlJcOQU

Becareful with all this negative information, don't let it replace the powerful and positive nature of Christianity, remember that God is greater than all of of this, and finding him should be your primary interest.

>>561439

one last one that i recently found, might be too subjective but still very interesting about hidden tranny celebrities in hollywood. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUe-RMuIGEhXdsLN0uMTZQlcaXnuKXWdx

>>561410

I remember that being my main complaint with it when I watched it. There were a few other obvious sleight of hand tricks as well which should be categorized separately from the truly bizarre.

>>561430

I don't trust a word this guy says. He admitted to being a liar. He admitted to mixing 1% lie with 99% truth. He admitted to infiltrating churches in order to deceive and undermine them. He admitted to using the ruse of being an ex-Satanist to infiltrate churches for the same purpose. Now he claims to have received special revelation. He seems way too glib and flattering. I wouldn't ever trust this guy.

>>562092

>He admitted to using the ruse of being an ex-Satanist to infiltrate churches for the same purpose.

source?

>>561389

No they are not. The are ridiculously charistmatic and practiced their tricks for thousands - even tens of thousands - of times.

Satan is a thing and his influence is undeniable, but you're accounting too much to these people. Maybe some of them are under demonic influence, but most - and I can assure you - are simply very fanatic when it comes to "magic" tricks, because that's what they live for.

>>561389

This is so stupid it actually makes me embarrassed knowing there are Christians this gullible. I don't even care for magic and I know the explanations for many of the tricks that this person insists is the work of Satan. "David Copperfield flying over the audience! It can't be because he is suspended by an array of nearly microscopic wires! It is Satan!"

>>562101

He says it in the video.

If you firmly believe something supernatural is going on, go see a magician irl and look for the mono-filament line and mirrors where he/she isn't telling you to look.

>>561459

Huge fan of Mario. I think he does pretty well.

HOW MAGIC ACTUALLY WORKS IN CHRISTIANITY

Magic exists in a state of quasi-reality; it is both real and imaginary at the same time. Since only God and His servants through Him can perform miracles, magic is just about making someone believe they experienced a miracle. All magic is the magic of the illusionists, trying to convince people they are flying or whatever. More powerful "magic" implements hypnosis techniques to increase the suggestibility of its targets. Magic is essentially the art of lying and Satan is its father.

The magic is fake, yeah, but their playfulness with evil themes and symbols and their attempt to sway people to either atheism or the actual occult are not and are equally as retarded as OP's vid.

>>561389

The memestary is not a credible source guys.

>>561430

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>>562116

He goes on in detail in the video he infiltrated & broke up a bunch of churches using the guise of being an "ex" satanist. Even of he only did it to a few small Protestant churches that's still a demonic thing to do & the sentiment behind it is just as disturbing. His supposed conversion to Catholicism sounds like over exaggerated lies &his assertion that the baptist church is equal to the Catholic church is poisoning the well. To think he honestly believes he can break up a Catholic church is insulting considering he could barley do it to a few small in congregation Protestant churches, if THAT part is even true.

I don't suppose anyone knows a better version of the video in the OP because of the problems stated with it already. There must be a video on the spiritual world that isn't so badly made with magic acts that are so clearly solved in the beginning. It's a shame, this could have been a really good video for people who don't believe.

>>561389

My dad taught me some neat card tricks when I was a kid. Guess we're Satanists now, eh?