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>>561088

By staying underground literally

I don't talk about religion unless someone else brings it up.

Matthew 5:15

>>561088

This >>561092 to be honest. Lead by example, and let them know Him through your work. Just live a healthy life, surrounded by family and friends; you should be way better than most liberals dying their hair rainbow, eating junk diet, being sexually deviant, and have a better mental health due to not fighting everyone who does not agree with you all the time already.

Do not tell any anyone blatantly that you are going to church, you are not a bloody vegan. Let your actions be the lamp that light up your surroundings and speak for itself.

As a beginner it will be safest for you to avoid anything that would resemble preaching or teaching others about the faith… this is because it is very very easy to get a swelled head full of pride when you learn a cool new argument or something and get to use it and get the illusion that you have been some kind of instrument of God's grace in someone else's life when maybe all you did is accidentally mislead them or maybe just annoy them so they had to play along with you.

Humility is the soil in which prayer grows and as a beginner it is especially crucial that you establish regularity and consistency in prayer and work hard to develop a true and genuine humility. So I say avoid arguments unless you really truly know what you are doing.

If someone asks you sincerely to speak with them about religion then tell them what you think in all sincerity, avoiding sensationalism and delusion as best you can. Realizing that you are probably making a moron out of yourself and using that as an opportunity to practice greater humility in the accepting of your own idiocy.

Since you say you have a strong urge to spread the Good News, this is a good sign, it is a nascent zeal for the salvation of souls. Please nurture it at least in private prayer for people. If you continue to feel this is not enough then my advice is to take up a private study of the more detailed beliefs of the various denominations, and especially the common atheistic and modernistic arguments against Christianity, as well as their correct refutations. But argument alone will never win a soul, so you must above all be filled with a burning love, and only a constant life of prayer, lived in the Church, can stoke this flame, That is the real reason why I say to avoid argument as a beginner. It is a super effective distraction for many people from the real job of a Christian which is love.

>>561090

>By staying underground literally

Do you get persecuted for being Christian?

>>561092

>I don't talk about religion unless someone else brings it up.

I was never afraid talking about religion, as long as I wasn't part of it.

Now I became more cautious…

>>561097

>Do not tell any anyone blatantly that you are going to church, you are not a bloody vegan.

That has yet to happen.

My social circle treats me as the kind of walking encyclopedia / advice guy, who has an answer for everything. (I don't know why.)

I'm unsure how to carefully incorporate my new Christian views without giving the impression of having "gone nuts".

>>561106

>That is the real reason why I say to avoid argument as a beginner.

No worries, I'm currently far from being anywhere near of being an apologist. I've yet to finish my Bible studies and I still know so little. Yet in my heart I know it's the truth.

Sleep organizes the mind.

>>561162

The Quran points me to Jesus, too.

>>561162

Get the fuck out.

>>561162

is gud b8

>>561162

>Read Qur'an

>Become Muslim

Wait, which are we supposed to do?

>>561172

Worked pretty good, right?

>>561162

>(No)

Thank you, mod. God bless you.

>>561735

24 hour ban ain't nothin', bruv.

>>561088

>>561097

Just say what the truth is. Say you go to church if it comes up. Don't hide it, but say it in a natural way while leading a good life. When the time comes, gently hint at your Chrisitianity and say what you think about it. I was derided for it by everyone I know, as will you, but fuck their bs, and show them how good you end up by following Christ.

>>561115

>I'm unsure how to carefully incorporate my new Christian views without giving the impression of having "gone nuts".

If the conversation lulls, ask a philosophical question, then state your belief in the Christian answer, like if you believe in Idealism, you can give the question "If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is there to hear it, does it make a sound?" And then give your belief after a bit of discussion, and how the universe could be regulated by god to satisfy other minds, etc.

>>561162

>Read Koran

>Become David Wood tier apologetic.

>Create new YouTube channel

>Convert hundreds of Muslims to Christianity

Don't hide it. You'll soon realise that literally nobody cares.

>get a new part time job

>manager asks when I'm available to work/when I can't

>kind of nervous but say that I would prefer not to work Sundays

>"Sunday's pretty busy here, why can't you work"

>"well.. uh, I have church to go to"

>"no worries then, I'll get you working Saturday's instead then"

>"sure thanks"

It's really not a big deal tbh.

>>572058

>get a new part time job

>manager asks when I'm available to work/when I can't

>Refuse to work Sundays

>"Sunday's pretty busy here, why can't you.."

>"CHURCH TO HEAR THE WORD OF THE LORD!!! KNOW YE NOT OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST!?"

>"no worries then, I'll get you work…"

>"FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF AAAALL EVIL! LEAVE THIS DEN OF INIQUITY AND HEAR THE WORLD OF THE ALMIGHTY GOD AND BE SAVED LEST YOUR SOUL BUUUUURRRNNNN ON THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT!!!! REPENT!!!!! EVERYONE REPENT FOR THE GLORY OF THE ALMIGHTY GOD!!!!!!!"

ftfy

do you remember what Jesus said about lukewarms?

i used to be like you. then i stopped giving a fuck. what's the worst thing that could happen? they kill me? i hope they do, glory to God

life becomes a whole lot easier once you see what actually matters in life. chad is a mindset, not a meme

>>572049

it's honestly worth a read for the sheer keke factor

Volume 1, Book 4, Number 229:

Narrated 'Aisha:

I used to wash the traces of Janaba (semen) from the clothes of the Prophet and he used to go for prayers while traces of water were still on it (water spots were still visible).

Volume 1, Book 4, Number 230:

Narrated 'Aisha:

as above (229).

Volume 1, Book 4, Number 231:

Narrated Sulaiman bin Yasar:

I asked 'Aisha about the clothes soiled with semen. She replied, "I used to wash it off the clothes of Allah's Apostle and he would go for the prayer while water spots were still visible. "

Volume 1, Book 4, Number 232:

Narrated 'Amr bin Maimun:

I heard Sulaiman bin Yasar talking about the clothes soiled with semen. He said that 'Aisha had said, "I used to wash it off the clothes of Allah's Apostle and he would go for the prayers while water spots were still visible on them.

Volume 1, Book 4, Number 233:

Narrated 'Aisha:

I used to wash the semen off the clothes of the Prophet and even then I used to notice one or more spots on them

>>572110

>I heard Sulaiman bin Yasar talking about

There's a reason hearsay is inadmissible in court. I really don't understand how anyone could not get this concept. sage for off-topic

>>561088

You are supposed to talk openly about it when asked. Anything else is being a coward.

But I am a coward so.

OP here

>>572109

>i used to be like you. then i stopped giving a fuck

I wasn't giving one at age 16, when I was secular, but at more than twice that age it's not that easy anymore.

Don't want to lose friends and family by going openly fundamentalist, I feel more like nudging people into the right direction and let do God His work on their faith.

>>572123

I can be open about it. Recently a friend asked in a chat what I'm reading currently and I honestly answered "the Bible", the reaction was confused/surprised, but not hostile. The topic changed quickly and no further questions were asked.

>>561115

>Do you get persecuted for being Christian?

you sweet summer child. Read the pauline epistles and acts

>>572529

Okay, but do you get persecuted for being Christian? I've never been persecuted further than a little bit of name calling.

>>572530

It's expected, but happens only occasionally. depends where you live, probably. I was just making a joke about the number of times paul says something along the lines of

>People hate us, guys, and it won't be very easy

>>572532

>I was just making a joke

I can be a real stick in the the mud, anon. I apologize.

To the OP, have faith that God will see you through any rough situations, especially if you're bold in flying His colours and proclaiming His Name.

>>572530

>>572532

wait whoops crap I didn't notice the italics. No, I am not particularly persecuted. I am still kinda young and I go to a christian college, so I haven't yet been faced with too many atheists. I took your question as a general one. My mistake.

>>561088

>Since then I can fully understand Christians when they talk about faith, while in the past I was cringing at religious testimonials. At the same time I have the feeling I have to hide my power level now despite having a strong urge to spread the Good News.

First of all, don't call it "power level". That implies some kind of retardo /pol/-meme. Are you Christian or are you not ? Because if you are, you spread the Gospel and be the living example of it.

Mt 5:16

1 Peter 2:21

Ephesians 5:1-2

Philippians 4:9

And so on and so forth. Don't be afraid and don't hesitate to do small things like crossing yourself in public and explain your faith profoundly. It is that, being the example of the Gospel, that will draw people in.

Christ said that we will be persecuted, crucified and tortured for following him and this is something we should embrace. For salvation does not lie in comfort, it lies in struggle for Christ.

God bless

>>561090

>>561092

>>561097

>>561097

>>561092

You are retarded cowards who deserve to hang. Jesus and the apostles werent killed for being nice, living a healthy life or having a diet. They were killed for proclaiming the truth and the faith. You are the candle that is hidden, and you will be held accountable for it, traitorous snakes

>>572618

Relax,

St. Clement teaches us to be careful to spread the Gospel in a house of heathens.

Rather lead by good example, make your ways higher than their ways.

Especially since OP isn't versed entirely in the wisdom of the faith to proclaim it.

< Therefore do we not sing psalms to the heathens, nor do we read to them the Scriptures, that we may not be like common singers, either those who play on the lyre, or those who sing with the voice, or like soothsayers, as many are, who follow these practices and do these things, that they may sate themselves with a paltry mouthful of bread, and who, for the sake of a sorry cup of wine, go about singing the songs of the Lord in the strange land of the heathen, and doing what is wrong

Tl;dr

<Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine

Matthew 7.6

>>572618

You’re absolutely right. I’m tired of these idiots here and even on /pol/ saying hide your power level. The degenerates will continue attacking us like Satan’s guarddogs and all these cucks want us to just shut up and take it. Change doesn’t happen without effort and as the enemy has shown, the only way to win is to double down.

>>572613

>First of all, don't call it "power level". That implies some kind of retardo /pol/-meme.

The "meme" as you call it describes the situation perfectly:

You have views and answers which substantially differ from the consensus of your environment.

If you provide these views without caution, people are unable to cope with them and might retaliate for questioning their basic worldview.

You won't experience that if you luckily live in a 99 % Catholic country, but I live under a secular/atheist majority with a growing Muslim population and a shrinking Christian minority.

So I made this thread to look for guidance from people with similar experiences.