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Fuck no that guy's turned the heresy up to 11. He's just antichrist prepping gullible fedoras like a good goyim.

>>558792

Who is this?

>>558796

Jordan Peterson. Self help guru who yelled at some SJWs once so people think he's edgy right wing while he teaches them about Freud and chastises everyone for the holocaust. He's got a series of lectures up on how the Bible is about his own divinity. There's a cult forming around him. Gives me the creeps.

>>558798

Honestly I didn’t realise Jordan was this much of a pleb. Individualism is an utter meme, and eventually leads back to some form of collectivism, because humans are by nature social beings. Even autists who physically prefer to be alone find community online. Even edgy stirnerites and nihilists want to find other people who agree with them.

Given his intimate knowledge of the bible, if he hasnt changed yet he probably wont.

>>558815

Individualism isn't that, however. Not properly understood. Most individualists acknowledge that people are, and should be, embedded in a community and their family.

Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn talked about personalism instead of individualism, but I don't know if he kept this distinction up or if he reverted back to calling it individualism. In any case, he substantially meant what I described above.

>>558792

He's a good transition between militant atheism and reading the bible. His talks on general religion helped me return to church. But I don't take his Christianity series very seriously, nor do I listen to him now that I'm Christian.

>>558842

This

He's a good stepping stone, especially for people who are returning to the church. But once you're actually interested in following Christ all his lectures start to seem too wishy-washy and treat the subject from such a removed, abstract lens its hard to enjoy them.

>>558837

What IS individualism then, properly understood? It seems like an incredibly nebulous ideology to me.

>>558837

That picture puts individualism over and against collectivism itself, and its common manifestations.

as if "individualism = good" and "collectivism = bad"

>>558801

Could anyone summarise up his belief regarding the connection between Christianity and Jungian personality theory? Is he a proponent of the collective hero persona? I ask because recently I have been having ideas about MBTI and Jung's theories that I am suspicious of, like how each type is a worldly rationalisation of the purpose of each soul that God has given us. Please rebuke me harshly if need be.

>>558792

I sure hope so, but as >>558793 >>558801 said its not looking to good.

He treats Christianity as a "useful mythology" or something of a folklore narrative and mixes it in with personality archetypes, some hogwash about belief and a total lack of strong scholarship in any of the domains he tries to cover.

I think he tries to convey the image of being something of a knowledgeable hero or a sage. In a video about his beliefs he said he "acts as if God exists" not with knowledge and faith. It is a convenient position that doesn't really ostracise college kids on either end of the atheist-theist divide online and he fills it with some Forer-Effect style psychology terminology.

If you want to see level-headed responses to his work Maps and Meaning you should look at 3 star or lower reviews of it online. He has built a cult of personality and a following that seems to be purposed around the income he gets from it.

>>558798

shared from his plebbit no less. what an idiot. how does anyone take him seriously.

>>558792

From what I've heard he really likes eastern orthodoxy and has even met with Orthodox leaders before. If he does convert hell probs go eastern orthodox. That's more good than bad imo.

whose works has he read besides jung's? every video i see he is just throwing some big jungian terms. anyone can do that

he is too academic also

>>559339

Nietzsche, Sigmund Freud and he also talks allot about the early 19th century and it's leaders

He also knows allot about Dostoyevsky and Tolstoy

>>559334

Eastern Orthodoxy: The Thinking Man's Protestantism