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5e859a No.556806

Those people in America, Asia, Africa, any place not near the happening during the earliest days of the Church. Are they condemned to hell without even having the chance to hear the good news and come to Christ? Can we help them?

Also a bit off-topic but what about the people who wanted to join the Church but cannot because no church around and/or because of the tyrants, those who got picked off and killed before they even get the chance to be baptised? Can they be saved or they already are by the merit of being a martyr?

32a9ea No.556880

>There are, of course, those who are struggling with invincible ignorance about our most holy religion. Sincerely observing the natural law and its precepts inscribed by God on all hearts and ready to obey God, they live honest lives and are able to attain eternal life by the efficacious virtue of divine light and grace. Because God knows, searches and clearly understands the minds, hearts, thoughts, and nature of all, his supreme kindness and clemency do not permit anyone at all who is not guilty of deliberate sin to suffer eternal punishments.

>QUANTO CONFICIAMUR MOERORE (On Promotion Of False Doctrines)

Pope Pius IX


555ab9 No.556910

>>556880

> his supreme kindness and clemency do not permit anyone at all who is not guilty of deliberate sin to suffer eternal punishments.

name one


030944 No.556911

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"Outside the Church there is no salvation"

CCC 847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:

Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.337


202207 No.556913

>who is Abraham

>who is Enoch

>who is Elijah

etc.


0ab936 No.556926

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I hope this answers your question.

For when the Gentiles, who have not the law, do by nature those things that are of the law; these having not the law are a law to themselves:

Who shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness to them, and their thoughts between themselves accusing, or also defending one another,[…]"

Romans 2:14-15.

"But he that knew not, and did things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. And unto whomsoever much is given, of him much shall be required: and to whom they have committed much, of him they will demand the more."

Luke 12:48.


e2ca8b No.556936

Yes they are burning in hell but not as bad as people that could recieve Christ but rejected him.

>>556911

>"Outside the Church there is no salvation"

Outside of Jesus Christ there is no salvation*


030944 No.556948

>>556936

Did you just pull this post of your butt, anon?

OP don't listen to him, lol


5e859a No.557060

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>>556911

Expanding on this. What about those who followed other religion by that time? Like Shinto for Japan and ancestor worship / local folklore in China. They do not know the Church nor Jesus, but they strived to be good in their own though misguided ways. Can they be saved?

>mrw ancestors might be suffering in hell right now because no Church, or the Church was mistakenly regarded as gaijin or wài rén imperialist move to gain landhold and did not gain traction.

>mfw cannot see grandparents again in heaven


8b1b8c No.557063

>>556948

47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.

48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.


8b48be No.557242

>>556936

>Outside of Jesus Christ there is no salvation*

the Church is the body of Christ, so there is literally no difference




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