/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

>>556612

Isn't Alchemy a creation of Christians?

>>556613

It seems more of the occult/pagan side

>>556612

I love FMA, but I'm not willing to pay an arm and leg for it.

>>556636

They shouldn’t, that’s playing with fire

>>556639

I know right, but they coat it in honeyed words.

As for alchemy though… As far as I'm aware, it was an early system to aide in the process of self-realization. But, I haven't done an in-depth study of it myself. That's what I've gathered from people who actually practice it and psychologists who have studied it.

>>556612

isn't alchemy like one of those skyrim things

>>556612

I mean as a history of a weird pseudoscience yeah go nuts

Just understand it's all bull, don't even think about doing witchcraft

Alchemy was an early stab at science. Alchemists tried to transmute matter through various processes. Although they used esoteric sounding names for the materials they used they were not actually casting spells or anything like that. But why study a proto-science like alchemy when we have real science now? Also while I don't think ancient alchemy was evil, most modern books on alchemy reinterpret it as some sort of occult witchcraft, so those books should be avoided.

>>556654

I’m trying to divide the truth from lies and why people loved it so

>>556647

Newton, a Christian, studied alchemy

>>556612

If you want to be possessed by homo-demons then sure

>>556679

Yeah… Unless you misunderstood me when I was talking about occultists and not alchemists.

>>556679

Most alchemists were gnostics

No. It's witchcraft.

It's a proto chemistry. Why is there any need or interest of it? If you like, study actual chemistry and physics.

>>556679

Newton were non-trinitarian

>>556801

I know

>>556890

If you knew why call him christian?

>>556612

It's fine to study, just remember that most of it is bullshit, and contradictory to the scriptures.

I use to put a little time in trying to understand it myself, but now I'm just too busy to mess with it.

>>556892

Non-trinitarians are no true Christianmen?

>>557073

To Lear their symbology and mythology

>>557226

Western alchemy shares common symbols with all branches of western esotericism, primarily from a mixture of Hermeticism and Christian Cabbala. Some of the well known early alchemists and occultists were Catholic monks. This doesn't mean that they went against the Church within their own thought, but many newbies that want to research esoteric subjects usually do so without discretion and get lost in contradictions. Later in the 1700s-1800s a decent amount of gnostic thought made its way into western esotercism as well. It is fine to read it, but be able to separate the two or else you will find yourself at odds with Church doctrine.

>>557229

That’s my entire goal. To separate the truth from the lies in alchemy. I think there is some truth in alchemy.

>>557232

Yeah someone already did that. We call it "chemistry".

>>557232

Sure go right ahead, just be careful in being able to separate the wheat. The early alchemists were not attempting to create gold, but were attempting to understand the natural world created by the Lord. In their studies they created a language to mask their knowledge from others. This is the pitfall many fall into. For instance the trinity of Salt, Sulfur, and Mercury, the trinity of Kether, Chokmah, and Binah, and our Christian trinity has caused many problems for eager students attempting to unite them without fully understanding them. An interesting but rarely known fact was the development of Christian Cabbala as a way of converting a number of prominent Jews to Christianity during the renaissance. However, this study of Cabbala also led a few to convert to Judaism instead.

>>557234

This.

You're not going to add or subtract protons from an element with some concotion made by a mystic 600 years ago. The only way to actually do that is with a nuclear reactor.

>>557240

The philosophy and mythology behind it, not transmutations.

>>557246

As a Christian, you already have Truth. Why do you need to delve into frankly dangerous occultic territory to try to look for it? I can guarantee you won't find it either, since alchemy doesn't have it.

I'm a Christian and I like to study Neo-Platonism, Sufism, Hinduism, Kabbalah, Hermeticism, Buddhism, Taoism, and European paganism. Even as Christians it's interesting and it can help us realize certain truths.

Yes, you can study any occult thing, just don't put it into practice.

Dabbling in the occult is sin.

>>557283

Reading isn't dabbling. If I see a gay man on television, it doesn't make me gay.

>>557283

Citation please

>>556612

>Can a born-again Christian do this

yes, you're a protestant, you don't have a real authority outside of sola scriptura. if you can find a way to weasel around scripture you're all set

>>557321

Sola what?

>>557334

Ssshhh! You will wake up the Baptists.