/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

If you truly love Christ then you won't destroy his creation (you). We do not own our bodies and souls, they belong to God. We are mere stewards of them.

This is the vale of tears that we must struggle through until natural death.

>>555899

>>555898

You guys don’t know my life or how world truly is if Christ truly loves me he can give me this one thing it all I ask is for peace I done my time in hell and I won’t out

>>555901

Want out I meant

>>555897

>I love feeling good better than obeying the Lord

Don't gnash your teeth when you go to hell m8

hey OP, you know what the 'Unforgivable Sin' is?

>>555902

>>555908

Then God not very forgiven god is he what every if god enjoys my suffering on earth I guess he can enjoy the view of me burning if that makes him happy

>>555910

hey dude, i asked you if you know what it is

do you?

>>555911

No but beat it means he want burn because he can’t cure me or take away my suffering

>>555897

Can I ask why you want to kill yourself?

>>555897

Do you have true faith as Christian? Because when we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God. Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.

For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us

>>555913

ok, now i'm not picking on you here

i'm being nice

but i'm guessing if you've never heard of the =='Unforgivable Sin'== nevermind define it, then you probably aren't a Christian

am i right in saying that

i don't mind

but if you've never repented from your Sin and put your trust in Christ Jesus to rescue you, sanctify you, and empower you to do good works - then you know that means you don't love Jesus, right?

it's ok - i'm not mad at you - i'm just saying you're not assured of Heaven

>>555919

I pray every night and ask forgiveness and also during the day and also been baptised

>>555922

that's not quite the same thing, anon

Repentance means to 'Turn Around'

it's as if you were choosing to go one direction with your life, and then you did a 180 and chose another direction

on top of that, when you do that 180, you decide not to trust yourself to make the important decisions - you put your trust in Jesus to direct your journey

that's what Faith means - it's an old word for Trust - and i don't think trust Jesus, do you?

>>555923

I trust Jesus but he doesn’t tell me where go I’m tired of sitting in blood I’m tired of crying myself to sleep and I’m tired of banging my head on the wall to get rid of bad thoughts I fucking hate it all just want Christ to end it all

>>555924

> I trust Jesus but he doesn’t tell me where go

so when you ask Jesus to give you direction, how do you go about listening for the answer

do you read the Bible

do you go to Church?

… again, i'm not mad at you - but if you don't know what the Unforgivable Sin is, then i don't think you've read the 4 gospels at the start of the New Testament

have you?

>>555926

do you read the Bible

Yes but I do suffer with STML

do you go to Church?

No I suffer With agoraphobic and Anthropophobia and Mysophobia so yer a big no on that

>>555924

Don't bring Christ into it. You're worshiping death.

>>555928

ok, i understand - sometimes our pains and grief beat us down so much, we're like an abused dog in the rescue centre

… a dog so scared and hurt and malnourished that even if someone puts down food in front of him, he either can't eat it - or he vomits it up because it's too much for wee tummy

but anon, i've read the Bible

a lot

so can i tell you something about Jesus?

>>555930

Yes please I’m just so sad I want help and don’t want to be here anymore

>>555921

>Saying this when God proved His love for you at the cross

About this, something I learned about Christianity during the apostolic age, which Christians used to say thanks and how to glorify God in everything. I know it's/will be difficult, but I thank if you do this daily, it'll help you see the world and your relationship with God differently.

>>555931

ok, now you probably know that Jesus is the Son of God, yeah?

but what that means is, from before the Beginning, the 3 persons in the Family of God always existed together in perfect Joy and communion with each other - needing nothing

that's the Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit - and these 3 are One in perfect unity with each other, always acting out of a motivation of Love toward each other

and before the Beginning, the Father gave to the Son the immense gift of being the Rescuer of everyone who puts their trust in Him

but this meant The Son had to become a man, putting aside His royal robes and entering into this miserable world that hates Him

and at one point in the Bible we are told that this meant He became 'a man of sorrows, and acquainted with Grief'

Jesus was betrayed by His family and His friends on numerous occasions - and in the end, He had only God on His side

so while i don't fully understand why you say you are surrounded by blood, i can tell you that Jesus was once in so much emotional agony that He sweat great drops of blood on the ground

this was part of how He became The Rescuer - because He lived a perfect life while surrounded by every pain and temptation that all of us deal with

and i would say He suffered more than any man has ever suffered, because we know He rightfully belonged in perfect Joy with the family of God

so anon, while i recognise that i can never fully understand your circumstances, i would say that the Jesus we put our Trust in is a loving God who has deliberately put Himself in your place, and gone through worse, so that He could win the right to rescue you

>>555933

Thanks for the words anon it’s nice to talk someone once in a while even if it’s like this I’m just so very lonely and when I mean by the blood I cut my wrist just deep enough to pass out it helps me sleep because I have sleep insomnia and medicine never has happy

>>555924

Get yourself to mass boyo and confirmed. God has a plan for you. "He who hates his life shall keep it. He who loves his life shall lose it".

We all want to die and be united with Christ, and at the mass we get to die in Christ at the Eucharist and become one with him.

>>555936

I mean I would love to but the whole agoraphobic and Anthropophobia and Mysophobia think that just to much I would pass out just getting to the door the thought makes me feel faint

>>555938

>>555935

i can understand the self-harm, when one has a life that is out of control, inflicting wounds on oneself is not just a distraction from reality; it gives a sense of control in that you are the one doing it, rather than letting it be done to you

and i think many of us will recognise that self-isolation which comes from grief and wanting to be curled up in a ball on your own, though it can add fuel to the fears of being around others - especially if you had bad experiences beforehand

i don't mean to be trite, but you are not alone in dealing with many of these issues - and while this isn't necessarily the healthiest environment to open one's heart in, i am confident that there are many people elsewhere on the internet who support each other in similar battles

i mention that, because understanding you have the agoraphobia etc, it's obviously very difficult for you to enter social situations outside of the controlled environment of the internets which you switch off immediately

but you're welcome to remain here and engage with us when you feel able - just be aware that some of us are total jerks and not particularly considerate of others, so you won't always get the support you need

>>555946

>which you switch off immediately

which you can switch off immediately when you feel uncomfortable

fixed

>>555946

Thanks you for saying that anon you don’t know how much that means to me I truly mean it thank you so much

>>555897

if you kill yourself you throw away your freedom

enjoy being a slave to your emotion

>>555949

i only share the grace that has been afforded to me, a servant who has been granted immense mercy and forgiveness

at your service

>>555938

Consider it the cross you have to carry to calvary then. Think of Jesus scourged within the inch of death and then ordered to carry the method of his impending execution. If Jesus could do that maybe you could too? Ask him to help and he will bear the burden for you.

If it is physically impossible for you to make it then you must call the parish priest up asap and they will assess the situation and if you are near death they will confirm, take confession, give the Eucharist and holy unction. These are powerful sacraments that will heal you body and soul. God bless. Please heed these words. Your salvation hangs in the balance here. I will pray for you.

bump for hope.

Hej OP,

You are not alone. I know that feeling. It hurts so so much and I just want it to end. Still gotta tell you that it usually goes away after a while and at one point or another I'm always happy I didn't act on it. I see a bird flying or the sun rays through the tees, somebody says something really funny, a fresh breeze of air, a moment of hope and light. Please don't do it. I know what you are talking about. I do. Get some help and relax into your faith.

Natural things to calm yourself down/help you sleep / i use / recommend:

- Magnesium

- Valerian

- Melatonin

- L tryptophan /5HTP

- Megadoses vit D3

- Kollagen powder

- Valerian & verveine &

St John's wort tea too

I don't recommend weed, it only covers things up and they'll come around even worse.

And you can try holding ice cubues in your hands instead of cutting yourself. I know. At least try it.

My thought that keeps me from doing is is seeing my loved ones mourn. Until they die. I'd exchange my grief for theirs. I'd spread it like a disease. Na-ah, I couldn't do that.

And Jesus. Talk to him. Tell him, he knows best what you need, ask God to bring things in your life to help you in whatever way he knows is best. I'm telling you brother, sometimes I get a sign and realise it too late. I just tell HIm 'look… I'm too stupid, please be patient with me'. Just… Relax.Into.Faith. …God loves you and you can handle what life gave you. Go and get help. Don't ever give up. I know it hurts. Work though it. You can do it. I could. So can you.

I can't tell you much than that there's the other side and you can get there. I sometimes fall back. But I know the good side exists and I'll wait it out. I'll work through it. Lots of tears. That's okay. Don't give up. Stay with us.

Hold on tight brother. Whatever you do, don't let go.

>>555897

Here's the best way to kill yourself:

old age.

But nah, fight against Isis or something like that until your dead. You either become a hero or die on the path of one