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cb6baf No.553458

Ephesians 1:1

>Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus

Why do people say that Paul's definition of Saint's differs from that of the Orthodox and Catholic church ?

bd0b68 No.553475

>Paul: every Christian is a saint

>Cathodox: saints are special people in heaven who we treat as gods in all but name


962c45 No.553476

> In official Church procedures there are three steps to sainthood: one becomes Venerable, Blessed and then a Saint. Venerable is the title given to a deceased person recognized as having lived heroic virtues. To be recognized as a blessed, and therefore beatified, in addition to personal attributes of charity and heroic virtue, one miracle, acquired through the individual's intercession, is required. Canonization requires two, though a Pope may waive these requirements. Martyrdom does not usually require a miracle.

- http://www.catholic-pages.com/saints/explained.asp


962c45 No.553477

>>553475

>>Cathodox: saints are special people in heaven who we treat as gods in all but name

957 Communion with the saints.

"It is not merely by the title of example that we cherish the memory of those in heaven; we seek, rather, that by this devotion to the exercise of fraternal charity the union of the whole Church in the Spirit may be strengthened. Exactly as Christian communion among our fellow pilgrims brings us closer to Christ, so our communion with the saints joins us to Christ, from whom as from its fountain and head issues all grace, and the life of the People of God itself"498:

We worship Christ as God's Son; we love the martyrs as the Lord's disciples and imitators, and rightly so because of their matchless devotion towards their king and master. May we also be their companions and fellow disciples!499

958 Communion with the dead.

"In full consciousness of this communion of the whole Mystical Body of Jesus Christ, the Church in its pilgrim members, from the very earliest days of the Christian religion, has honored with great respect the memory of the dead; and 'because it is a holy and a wholesome thought to pray for the dead that they may be loosed from their sins' she offers her suffrages for them."500 Our prayer for them is capable not only of helping them, but also of making their intercession for us effective.

- CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH


cb6baf No.553478

>>553475

>saints are special people in heaven who we treat as gods in all but name

How can you be so lazy? This is obviously not true


cb6baf No.553479

File: 249d70a7370ff11⋯.jpg (47.67 KB, 445x600, 89:120, saint-therese-of-lisieux06.jpg)

Can somone please just answer the question the best they can?


7a2a4a No.553482

Sadly the saint worship and idols/statues is what drives me away from Catholicism and Orthodoxy


962c45 No.553490

File: 9d98f4fd58c072b⋯.jpg (48.23 KB, 655x436, 655:436, אין כל הבחנה בשפה המקורית.jpg)

>>553482

>worship

Dulia, Hyperdulia, and Latria.

Learn the difference. It could save your life.


570a26 No.553495

I just posted some info on the subject in another thread when the supposed "difference" came up. Maybe it'll help.

>>553492


cb6baf No.553512

>>553495

Thanks, this is helpful.

>>553482

Please stop


3eb9d9 No.553557

File: ef28c0953a24a10⋯.png (20.32 KB, 640x480, 4:3, 1481412826668.png)

>>553475

>Catholics: Venerate saints

>Protestants: Venerate the state of Israel


fb8728 No.553726

>>553490

>kike runes as image name

Wow, that's good bait.




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