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de0e86 No.550116

Where to start reading the early church fathers? Who are the big players that have a decent body of work?

6bf1dd No.550124

>>550116

Have you read the whole bible yet?


b020d5 No.550125

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>>550116

The best representation of Christianity is set in the apostolic age, but I'm gonna guess you already read passed that, so I'm going to recommend reading history between 311 to 600 by Phillip Schaff http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/hcc3.iii.iii.html

>Who are the big players that have a decent body of work?

Irenaeus of Lyon, Augustine of Hypo, Epiphanius, Athanasius, and John chrysostom


de0e86 No.550130

>>550124

And he said, “How can I [understand], unless someone guides me?” And he invited Philip to come up and sit with him.


ce6ad2 No.550132

>>550116

Start with St Athanasius' "On the Incarnation of the Word". It's an easy start and very influential. Then go back to St Justin Martyr's " Dialogue with Trypho the Jew" and his apologies. After that St Irenaeus' "Against Heresies"


ce6ad2 No.550133

>>550125

Blessed Augustine isn't a good start as he didn't have a foundation in the earlier Fathers and broke with them on several points (he couldn't read Greek). He also had a bad translation


f55c5b No.550136

John of Damascus is quite good. "Exposition of Faith" is sort of a Catechism for Orthodoxy. It may be partially outdated in some parts, but its a Good start point.


de0e86 No.550153

>>550124

Thanks! http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/33041.htm

This is great and easy to understand.


6bf1dd No.550154

>>550130

>I can't understand the bible

<this bible verse I understand says so

Lad…


09e457 No.550155

>>550154

You realize he could pass it if he says his priest told him that?


6bf1dd No.550158

>>550155

Where does the bible say priests can understand the bible?


de0e86 No.550172

>>550158

where does the bible say protestants can understand it


6bf1dd No.550187

>>550172

John 10:27


c640e9 No.550191

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6731dd No.550497

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>>550116

Start with St. Ignatius of Antioch and St. Irenaeus of Lyons


9f5330 No.550502

>>550187

Sheep aren't protestant.


77f337 No.550508

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Start with the Apostolic Fathers. The Didache is a good start as are the epistles of St. Ignatius

>>550497

I honestly would disagree with the second part. St. Irenaeus is a great read in time, but I would suggest the rest of the Apostolic Fathers and Justin Martyr before Irenaeus, as he is much longer and deals with more crazy heresy, which can make him sound weird if you don't comprehend whats going on


ae218e No.550791

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>this is my body

>dont get it

>stare at bread

>give it some thought

>carbohydrates, carbon, soil being tilled, wheat being milled, sun shining around the earth, teeth chewing, cellular electron transport chain, being itself as a process of maintaining our nutritional complexity and breath as we exist within God who is within all things as an inescapable divine essence from the micro to macrocosm to everyday life

>this is my blood

>visualize blood vessels with blood cells flowing through delivering nutrition fighting pathogens and cities from a bird's eye view with lights fastforwarding

>wine

>uh drunk baby boomers…

>*scratches neck

still don't get it


97b550 No.550864

>>550116

That pic is not an argument, metaphors can and often are said like so " x is y" not only "x is like y"


5e1fdd No.550983

These words are literally his body, John 6:63




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