Renewal or Ruin?...or just fearmongering?

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Renewal or Ruin?...or just fearmongering? Christanon 11/01/17 (Wed) 11:23:53 d9c071 No.548047

Just watched this 22 minute documentary on the IRD and I am a little shocked. While I do not agree with the direction some liberal churches have taken, I would never think to actively undermine them. Is the IRD a legit threat in that it breaks up churches?

Christanon 11/01/17 (Wed) 11:37:05 6bec6b No.548055

>>548047

>democracy at home and abroad

>based in Washington DC

>Open Church philosophy on the importance of diversity of Christian views

>democracy is the future

I wouldn't trust them. These people are more concerned with the secularizing of the church and tying it down to the world than helping mankind return to God.

Christanon 11/01/17 (Wed) 12:19:20 d9c071 No.548060

>>548055

An immediate red flag went up for me when I heard that Mark Tooley used to work for the CIA. Whenever a think tank and the CIA are hand in hand, they are never up to any good despite how they try to make it seem.

Christanon 11/01/17 (Wed) 13:00:23 fff237 No.548063

>>548047

Anon, when wicked, satanic apostate churches that bring shame on the truth die, that's a good thing. It would be a good thing for the United Methodist Church to die.

Christanon 11/01/17 (Wed) 13:20:19 a19b16 No.548065

>>548063

Even if said Methodists were secretly a cult of evil devil worshippers, that wouldn't make some sketchy thinktank with a less than transparent agenda threatening their existence automatically in the right. The enemy of my enemy is far too crude logic for anything less than total war.

Christanon 11/01/17 (Wed) 17:22:39 d9c071 No.548131

>>548063

Again I do not agree with the direction these churches have taken, but I most definitely do not agree that some outside influence should be attempting to bring upon their downfall sooner. Let their congregations themselves determine the direction they wish to move. If those within the Methodist or Episcopal church have had enough, they will simply leave on their own for another church. The thing that gets me is that you have this think tank that is deciding for itself what doctrines should be espoused for these mainline denominations. If they make these denominations collapse, then who will be next if it is according to their whim?