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>>534631

where's that one dude who always posts 25 reasons Francis is the most conservative

>>534633

pope francis is 80 years old and only has one lung.

>>534638

Pls no bully. I have wanted to kms for years, and some days are better than others.

>>534642

I'm tired of trusting and being hurt.

>>534642

dude looks pretty good tbh

>>534642

>only has one lung

disregard this, my fact checkers have informed me that this is false.

he's only missing part of one of his lungs

>>534641

Say "Pope Francis is a modernist" in the mirror three times, spin in a circle, and then do the splits. Then he'll appear.

And yet even still, Pope Francis is a far holier man than I think I ever will be.

>>534633

This, wish I was ten years older, would've happily converted under Benedict XVI - the man is still contributing, bless his soul

http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2017/10/05/benedict-xvi-obscuring-god-from-the-liturgy-has-led-to-crisis-in-the-church/

There seems to be nothing wrong with his mind, why was he forcibly pushed ou- I mean err, retired?

>>534631

>Francis is the first pope to approve of adultery

Source

Also, cant wait for this Super Bishop to step down

>Francis is the first pope to approve of adultery, flirt with proposals to bless gay marriages and cohabitation, tell atheists not to convert,

BS filter went off. Doesnt this guy know slandering the Pope is a big deal and will probably send you to hell?

Also for the dudes not converting because of Pope Francis; man up pansies. You guys probably also complain about why you dont have gfs freaking jeez.

that black dude better be the next super bishop or catholics are fucked. but wew the nerve of this crypto jew

diapas

>>534633

Same. Also interested in joining the Catholic Church, but Francis has seriously turned me off on it. I am looking into Orthodoxy now.

>>534749

you know there have been popes banging women on the side and loads of other crazy stuff. the fact that the Cat Church has stood for 2000 years with all the corruption and crazy leaders is a testament to it being the church established by God himself.

you don't have to agree with the Pope on all his statements to be catholic. we follow God ultimately. Pope Francis is a sinner like all of us. But we shouldn't slander him. While people who like traditionalism and orthodoxy tend not to like Pope Francis, the fact is that his stance has really softened up a lot of probably questioning agnostics or atheists. I can definitely see how he has done some good PR for the church overall.

>>534749

I sincerely hope that you find a home in Orthodoxy, and I think that, through catechism, you certainly would. But if you're only interested in it as a protest vote, you're going to have a hard time accepting the Church in its fullness.

>>534749

There has never been a universally loved Pope, but the Church still stands.

>>534749

To be honest I'm going with Orthodoxy because it seems to be in-line with most of what I've already spent time thinking about. Also, they've stayed unified.

>>534633

>>534749

>one Pope is enough to put me off of joining the Eternal Church

Grow up. This is like saying Judas Iscariot being a disciple is enough to put you off being a Christian.

Pope Francis may not be perfect, but some of the rubbish that is thrown at him is seriously unfair.

Even if you dislike him, but love the Church aat large, submit, obey. This way you will begin to learn humility.

>>534879

>Also, they've stayed unified.

>Broke away from the Church of Christ and pridefully refused to submit to Her again

lel so did the Anglicans and Lutherans. They're all still schismatics.

>>534631

>and celebrate Martin Luther

That's not a problem

>>534894

But of the two that broke, part of the Catholic Church broke into a million different pieces while the Orthodox Church has held firm.

>Grow up.

>>>/facebook/

>>534894

Any clergyman who supports open borders should be excommunicated.

>>534897

>Catholic Church broke into a million different pieces

This is just no even true. I think the baptists on this board would love to know that they are Catholic.

Even if that was true, what is your verdict on the fact that the Eastern church got swamped and nearly eradicated by Muslims, to the point that the only traditional See which is still in Christian hands is, gasp, Rome?

You really need to be more mature. The Church is eternal, the Pope is not.

>>534899

He doesn't support it open borders though, he just thinks we can do more for them. His view is naive I grant you, but really, he has never actually claimed that we should just scapr nations because I don't know "it's 2017 man XDDD"

He has also stated that you need to be firm with them. Curiously he started emphasising this restraint after a trip to Sweden.

>>534902

I was going to talk, but

>muh maturity

This isn't a JewTube comment section. Lurk more.

>>534909

>I don't have a proper response so i will meme my way out of it lol btfo!

>>534685

Does he likes cartoony platformers? I could need a second player for Cuphead.

>>534738

So people who are seriously considering converting are having doubts, and your response is "GROW UP"?

When did the post quality take such a fucking drop here?

>>534895

While I can see why it would make some Catholics upset, I would agree. I for one enjoy having Bibles in the vernacular. Latin is a lovely language, and I could probably read the Vulgate with little issue at this point, but still.

>>535072

It's been like that for quite a while. I have to admit that one of the main reasons I haven't given Catholicism a serious look is the very haughty and often mean-spirited attitudes of them on this board. Perhaps that might be branded as "childish," but the truth of the matter is that most of them here are not bearing the fruits of the Spirit. I have other theological issues, of course (purgatory, indulgences, papal infallibility, and some but not all of Marian devotion), but the posters here such as >>535077 who feels the need to post those in every thread critical of Catholicism are not helping matters.

>>535100

It's just the flavor of the month and he's a Jesuit (which people around here think is some super-secret satanic order of jews). The people whining about Francis now are the same people who claimed that John Paul II was the last Pope and the Church would die with him (hence, the assassination attempts).

Francis is just a Pope. I don't always agree with him, but he's the Pope. It's like I don't always agree with Trump, but he's still the President. In a few years we'll have a new Pope and the same people will be kvetching and reeeeing about whoever that will be.

>>534852

>Muh PR

>"Surely that good PR will kick in any day now!" the liberal priest says to himself as the pews continue to empty

This post is the modernist error in a nutshell. Meeting people with faulty morals half way won't make them better, it will just make them feel self righteous in their evil. I fell for the fedora and homo marriage meme, was it a faggot pastor playing nice that converted me? No, it was a condemnation of the degenerate evil that is homosexuality by a zealous christian. Godless people without any light in their lives don't need a lookwarm christian that makes concessions to them, they need orthodoxy and an inflexible declaration of God's righteousness.

>>534966

It's worth a shot. He does have a copy of Undertale, after all. Maybe he honed his shmup skills.

>>535113

Of course it is. I'm just saying that in general, I find the Orthos and (most) Protties tend to be more civil on here than Catholics.

As far as the concerns, I find the idea of the bank of merit a very rules lawyering concept, and purgatory is just entirely unbiblical. As far as the Marian devotion, it is not the idea that it is wrong to invoke Mary (I'm not against the invocation of saints in general, actually. I just prefer to pray directly to Jesus). I think my issues are best summarized in the the rosary. I like the concept of the rosary. But I have an issue with the fact that there are more "Hail Mary's" than there are "Our Father's." I would prefer to say the Jesus Prayer on the small beads, with one Hail Mary or the Magnificat or something at the end. The balance feels off.

>>535143

Catholics had MP3 player technology in the Middle Ages?

>>535143

Just reminding that Aristotle > Plato.

>>535180

It's interest to see that the Catholic version is about historical facts and the Orthodox one is about theological interpretation.

>>534852

>Pope Francis may have broken open the paddock gate and let some of the Lord's flock go astray but those wolves sure look interested in his changes around the old farm!

Modernists are very silly people.

>>535325

Rather theological strawman

>>535324

I feel that, I also feel that's why they gloss over Aristotle in most philosophy intro classes these days - he doesn't support the liberal commie agenda.