/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

>>815338

Well, it must be quite bothersome to live with someone that takes your stuff without asking, so you should apologize for your roommate and buy him a new jar of peanut butter.

As to pathological lying, don't use that as an excuse to avoid improving yourself, for no sin is beyond God's grace. You should ask your confessor for guidance, and start praying the Rosary to resist temptations to lie.

Will I go to hell if I'm not sure that Jesus was the son of God?

How do I deal with my bipolar disorder when I’ve done everything I can medically.

I was listening to one of those sermons by Fr Ripperger and he said God doesn't hear your prayers if you're in a state of mortal sin (using this to explain why the prayers of Protestants won't work). Does this mean my prayers are useless until my first confession? Do the Orthodox share this belief?

>>815480

He hears them, He can't not, this is wrong tbh. Fr. Rip isn't right on everything. Orthos nor Caths share this belief, most Prots prob dont either. God hears the prayers of sinners: https://pastebin.com/XWQz1ryP

>>815488

Yeah, that sounds right to me. Do you know where he may have got this idea from?

>>815373

What do you think he was?

As an orthodox christian should i accept the glorification of sin and mind my own business or should I stand up to it?

>>815397

It is a gift from god so you can see your spiritual brokenness, pray to him, repent, fast and God will help you

>>815397

It is a gift from god so you can see your spiritual brokenness, pray to him, repent, fast and God will help you

If people can't be good only God is good, does it mean that people can't be evil only the Devil is evil, or can people be evil???

>>815828

People have free will, so they can either chose to follow God or chose to follow the temptations of the devil. God already knows which path they will chose, but preserves mankind's freedom in accordance with our creation.

Is that helpful.

>>816047

What was their problem with the church?

>>816048

You mean aside from being literal heretics, murdering people, and laying the foundation for the Protestant Devolution?

Part of what christian denomination are you and why do you think your denomination is the true church?

>>816049

>with the church

>>816051

Oh my bad, I misread your post. I guess I really need to control my anger.

But the Hussites had the same problems with Jesus' Church as Luther did.

>>816050

I joined the Roman Catholic Church for spiritual and symbolic reasons, and access to certain forms of spiritual practices/liturgies that were beneficial to me, but I think the body of Christ is far beyond my Church, and that most members in it, currently also including myself, are not "Christian." I don't think any denomination/sect/so-called-apostolic-line is the true Church(tm) per se, but that some have higher concentrations of actual Christians in them than others, and at different times too. I would still, despite all of this, reccomend the Catholic Church, as it gives a framework of the universe with it's holy dogma and doctrines that is able to contain all spiritual truth you find. Anything that is true spiritually you can find here in one way or another, this framework is super helpful for achieving union with God. I don't see it in any other Church, it is either partially there, too clouded, or the members/founders are/were too thick headed to spell it out. And none seem to have the organized unity for expressing it with clarity that the Roman Church does. Hope this helps

Peace be with you,

I have a very stupid question. When praying alone, many prayers I read have both a V and R part, versicle and response. When alone, do I read/recite both? Or only the response, imagining that some personal some were read the V? Or are these marks only relevant in groups and alone you read both always?

>>816161

Speaking as a person who prays the hours, yes, when you are not reciting prayer in a group, you read both the versicle and response.

How do I know if something is a sin, I've done many things in my life and I didn't even realise til later that they were sin since someone told me that it was a sin, is there anywhere I can look where it tells me absoulety every single sin you could possibly do, I'm an orthodox christian btw, is it a sin to listen to other denominations as reference or read from their bible to compare it to my bible or is it a sin?? This is just one of many things

>>816179

I thought Orthodox Christians had spiritual directors that can answer these questions?

Below, I am linking you a VERY THOROUGH list of all sins, both venial (= do not bar you from eternal life) and mortal (= probably going to hell unless you confess.)

As a catholic you would want to confess both kinds, though the mortal ones are of course far more devastating; the venial ones you will want to avoid to help you grow in piety and to become a better person.

Still, this list of sins should answer your question. Warning, it is quite long!

http://www.catholicapologetics.info/thechurch/sacraments/adults.htm

That's something you'll have to continually discover between you and God. That's a lifelong process. The thing is, anything that goes against God (anything not for him, is against him) is a sin. That shouldn't feel too restrictive. You see, God is many things. He's not just good, but he's also the truth. You should be living in the truth, living in good, etc. When you speak lies, you speak of satan. Similarly, when you speak the truth, you speak of God. Now, the nature of the truth is another topic all its own. Think about these things. First and foremost, develop your relationship with God, and these things will necessarily fall into place.

Thought I clicked the numbers, but oh well.

>>816185 was meant for >>816179

Do we reincarnate on earth until we become like Christ? Does Earth act like purifying flames for our soul? Is this why many people believe in Buddhist reincarnation because it is a piece of the truth?

>>816184

Thank you, but I am not Catholic and it would be against my church and God to fall to false teachings

>>816243

>We actually give you an answer, unlike your current church

< it would be against my church and God to fall to false teachings

…

Is it a sin to be robust in orthodox Christianity?

My loved one asked a simple question about link of a video in this thread and he got permabanned for no reason whatsoever, it was unspecified. He did nothing wrong. Are mods gods?

>>816383

No, but it is a bit rude to ask a question in QTDDTOT and not the Orthodox General and then shoot down a reply trying to answer your question. Sometimes just letting a conversation end is just the better thing to do.

>>816215

Gnosticism and Buddhism are very distinctively non-Christian beliefs. The Creation Stories do not match up and work out. Irenaeus has written much against it and is a good starting point to learn more about them. What does happen after death is not fully revealed to us, much like Christ was not fully revealed in the Old Testament. What is known is that there is a final judgement, some sort of purification process, and then the resurrection of the dead. Earth is the preamble to the full process.

Buddhism does not possess the full truth, in fact it actively points away from Christ. To tell a lie, you must tell parts of the truth. Resurrection can be misconstrued as reincarnation. Asceticism and the subordination of the body to spirit can be misconstrued to mean that reality itself is evil. Realize that the perspective you are taking is not the Christian perspective, but the Gnostic. Be careful.

>>816404

Never place your faith in yourself or in others. They are human and will let you down. That is what "sin" means, "missing the mark" "falling short". You must realize that you are accountable to Christ first and foremost. There is not one thing you can do that isn't done through Providence. You will fail, and others will fail. Take refuge in the Lord in Good and Bad times.

When you ask someone to do something, expect them to fail. It's not the absolute right way to go about it, but it makes it easier to forgive others when they do fail. Otherwise, it'll be a pleasant surprise. the problem you find is incredibly common. Simply showing up and "shooting straight" is a virtue beyond most people. Don't let someone else effect you.

"If-" by Rudyard Kipling is a fantastic poem that's relevant.

Is casual sex inside marriage a sin? It doesn't seem like the bible touches on this

>>816608

2362 "The acts in marriage by which the intimate and chaste union of the spouses takes place are noble and honorable; the truly human performance of these acts fosters the self-giving they signify and enriches the spouses in joy and gratitude."145 Sexuality is a source of joy and pleasure:

The Creator himself . . . established that in the [generative] function, spouses should experience pleasure and enjoyment of body and spirit. Therefore, the spouses do nothing evil in seeking this pleasure and enjoyment. They accept what the Creator has intended for them. At the same time, spouses should know how to keep themselves within the limits of just moderation.146

>>816544

>Simply showing up and "shooting straight" is a virtue beyond most people. Don't let someone else effect you

Thanks brother, warm words well received. I'll look it up.

>>816611

Yeah, plus, it seems the Ecclesiastes book really touches on this. (out of the top of my head)

Why is it that the same type of person who accepts English in the Orthodox liturgy will style for nothing short of Latin mass in Catholicism? Is the problem that they don't trust priests to perform the traditional mass in native tonge or does it actually have something to do with Latin itself?

>>816862

>style for nothing short

I mean settle

Can't remember where I saw this, but I remember one commenting mentioning about Genesis, saying that originally there was an alternate version to Eve (in the hebrew tradition, maybe different interpretation). Something about there being two different women instead of Eve and the snake, does anyone know about this reference?

In the same manner, I remember hearing something about the deep meaning of the "sin", being something like "letting yourself down" or "disappointment". Does anybody know about this reference as well? And specifically if it also applies to original latin and derived languages?

>>816876

Lillith is just a post-Christian Kabbalah myth. None of it is relevant to Christian's. Often times, if a Christian thinks it's real, they're misinterpreting the chain of events in creation. They think that the story of Eve occurred after God had created "man and woman" despite it occurring on the 6th day.

Sin is an English term that means moral transgression. In Greek, the term often used is "hamartia" which, as I have been taught, is a term used in archery that means "falling short" or "missing the mark". The Latin term for sin is "peccatum" which very literally means "to stumble" or "fall short". Even Hebrew uses "hata", which also means "to fall short". Can't confirm the Aramaic term, but it's also more in line with "to owe" or "to be indebted". It's more accurate to say that sin is a stumbling or falling short.

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Do we go to heaven or hell the instant we die, or do we sleep (or something like that) until Jesus comes again?

>>816980

Instantly, unless you believe in purgatory as the Catholics do, in which case all spiritual impurities will first be burned out of your soul. Unless you die in a state of perfect grace, that is. Perfect grace would mean you have done all the penances for the sins you were forgiven for and you haven't done ANY venial sins since your last confession. (Unlikely - but it does happen; some saints became so saintly that even the most minor venial sin made them feel sheer horror.)

>>816898

Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for regarding the sin thing, considering my language is derived from latin and still very similarly sounding. Its a great explanation and specifically more meaningful when explaining to others.

Regarding the Lilith thing, I think is beyond the point if its relevant or even real, still I would like to know more about it.

>>817026

To be honest, I believe more in purgatory than I do in heaven or hell, purgatory is common between several religions and cultures, and more pronounced in general within the bible. On the other hand the Kingdom of Heaven, has a different connotation on different languages, and sometimes gives the impression that it will happen on Earth itself as opposed on different dimension.

>>816980

But either way, this is a moot point, considering that you don't notice your own sleep, you just wake up the next day like nothing happened (unless you dream, which is a semi wake status).

I'm 25 and never had romantic involvement of any kind. every day i'm scared by the thought of dying alone, i know how bad that is but it's hard for me to be optimistic when i've felt this way so long. I have a good job and my own place and whatnot but nothing ever seems to work out for me. i feel so lonely and I don't understand why this is what God wants for me

>>817055

Do you lift? Are you /fit/?

>>817056

I run and long distance cycle a lot so I'm not jacked but I'm not fat by any means, in terms of physical appearance I'm more insecure about my face than anything. that and I'm 6'6 which I feel is too much and actually puts people off but i guess i can't really do anything about that

>>817041

There's really not much to know about Lilith. The story goes that when God created man, he created Adam and Lilith. But Lilith was equal to Adam, not subservient. She was displeasing to Adam, who complained to God. God banished Lilith from Eden, then went about creating Eve when He saw how lonely Adam was, this time making her subservient. Lilith then goes on to become the mother of a host of demons referred to collectively as Lilith, who roamed the world looking to eat the flesh of men in a vampiric/succubus parallel, roaming the night and howling. Some sources say she slept with an Archangel.

Really, that's about all there is about Lilith in terms of mythology. The Origins of the myth is far more interesting and relevant. The Vulgate Isaiah uses the term "Lamia" for the one actual biblical reference to Lilith. The Vulgate was written with reference to contemporary Hebrew texts of the time, ca 400 ad which is approximately the time Lilith was introduced. It's more likely that the Hebrews recognized a similarity with the term "lilith" meaning "screech owl" or "night creature" with the Mesopotamian "lilitu". Very similar to the process by which we received the term "Beelzebub". It's a case of Lilith understood to mean Lilitu which is then translated in the Greco-Roman myth of Lamia! This is why if you refer to Isaiah 34:14, you'll often read "screech owl" instead of Lilith in most translations.

If you're really interested in the myth itself, study Kabbalah and the other Jewish myths and absolutely avoid any of the feminist/wiccan/new age interpretations divorced from the Jewish mystical tradition. The Jewish myths are BS (there is common disagreement over the demonology and translations) but more genuine than the New Age crap. The New Age understanding of Lilith is just as bad as any modern "druid" cult trying desperately to restructure the remaining Celtic religions into something meaningful.

>Purgatory

I'd caution you for your assertion that Purgatory is more real than Heaven and Hell on the basis of its commonality in other religions. Comparative religion as a base for your belief is a step removed from full-blown Gnosticism.

>Kingdom of Heaven is a different

dimension

Careful use of words can prevent misunderstanding. The Kingdom of Heaven on Earth is supposed to be established after Judgement Day. This is part of the Apostle's Creed.

Quick question, but important to me:

What is the current church teaching on friday abstinence?

I have to attend an end-of-year work party tommorow and it's a barbeque. I don't want to sin but we're expected to be present all day so I would like to eat.

>>817326

There are only two fast days that are necessary for your salvation.

Ask for fasting on Friday it again it's not a hundred percent necessary but it does help build the virtue of temperance. Since it's only gonna be a one-time thing for that barbecue I wouldn't worry about it. But if you insist on you know somewhat abstaining have like one burger or brisket or whatever and don't indulge yourself in the delicious barbecued food.

Has there ever been a /christian/ meet-up before?

>>817437

I believe some people on the Discord have met up before, even several times.

>>817326

It's generally considered violating the spirit of the Law to refuse food offered to you by a host even on fast days. Just eat until you're just barely full and you'll be fine.

Very dumb question that definitely doesn't deserve it's own thread:

Is being a language nerd ok?

I really like foreign languages and I like to study them on my own as a hobby. I feel like it's a hobby that at some point saved my life, when I was a miserable NEET.

Of course, my soul is ultimately saved by Christ. Are there any saints for language-learning? Does this count as a good work?

At the moment I speak only 3 languages. 2 fluently (my native + English) and another one at an intermediate level (Japanese). I plan to learn Mandarin and then move back to European languages and pick one that sounds cool like Swedish or Danish.

I just want a Christian perspective on becoming a polyglot.

>>817460

To add another even more stupid question:

Should I try to pray in another language besides my native? For some reason it feels slightly wrong to do so, although I have done it in English.

>>817460

Depends how you use them I guess, if you're planning to evangelize (for example, translating major spiritual works to a language that has few) with it or you're persuing wisdom to, I don't know, become a philosopher, yes…

It seems like God granted you the Grace of languages, don't waste it. China and Japan have few Christians :^)

If you go for Danish reminder to read Kierkegaard. Sadly I won't learn one language for one guy. Lucky you

>>817461

Most great Saints prayed in Latin and they still do at monasteries. The Vatican actually encourages it's use (don't know if you're Catholic)

Give this a read if you're interested.

https://www.prayinglatin.com/why-pray-in-latin/

>>817464

Thank you for the prompt response anon. Indeed I would like to be able to be able to speak with other nations about Christ. I'm not sure how to go about finding missionary work.

A very very interesting thing is that in Japan they do have a Japanese Orthodox Church ( ハリストス正教会) and I might be able to do something in regards to that if given the chance.

I'm actually Orthodox and in my country (Romania) we studied Latin in high school. However, I can only understand some of it because it's so similar to my own native language. (same with Spanish and Italian I guess). I do understand how praying in Latin might be a great thing though. I do value its spiritual importance although we practice Eastern rite here.

To be honest my intentions of starting languages were not so pure right off the bat, because some of the reasons were money, bragging-rights and becoming an "ascended" weeb. Now that I've found Christ, I'd like to put it to very good use and bear fruit this way perhaps.

>>817468

I too struggle with this. A lot of the reasons for doing something are very selfish, but a part of becoming Christian is realizing that the selfish desire is ultimately derived from a desire for Christ. Learning to direct it towards God is always difficult, but when in doubt stick to the priorities. If the act of learning or speaking another language actively takes away from God, then stop it. But if you just doubt the motivations behind learning it, reject both the false motivation and the temptation to quit. It's a trick to make you miserable needlessly. What use does singing have, yet how many sing for the enjoyment of it? What use does gardening have, yet how many garden for the enjoyment of it? Learning another language for fun is a pure endeavor, don't fall into delusion on either end.

I'm American Orthodox and I could not imagine attending a Russian or Greek service regularly. Praying in a language you know is vital to actually practicing Christianity. Attending Vespers and Liturgy regularly serves as a fantastic Catechism, but I would have missed way more had the service been in Russian. That being said, as a convert the learning of prayers itself is a very useful way to learn languages, even in my native language. It taught a lot of the theological concepts and terms that I wasn't aware of. I can imagine learning to pray in another language provides greater insight to Christianity and the language itself. the big schisms occurred over minute semantics that end up having a great ramifications. The devil is in the details.

I can only speak English fluently, but I have some familiarity and educational background with French and Mandarin, and some familiarity with Japanese. China also has a Church under Russia that's been trying desperately to spread beyond Harbin (Chinese government restrictions), Shanghai has some prominent Churches, as does Taiwan, FWIW. I always feel conflicted, a part of me wants to do missionary work in China, but another part wants to help establish the OCA in some way. Regardless, if you want someone to help with Chinese and Japanese studies, I wouldn't mind the help either. I get sidetracked too often. No pressure, no offense taken of you're not interested.

>>817509

Sure thing anon, I'd love to talk to you more about language-learning. Is discord alright?

>>817622

Same anon, different computer.

shoot me an email at Anon438@protonmail.com

>>817067

Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to know.

>But Lilith was equal to Adam, not subservient. She was displeasing to Adam, who complained to God. God banished Lilith from Eden, then went about creating Eve when He saw how lonely Adam was, this time making her subservient. Lilith then goes on to become the mother of a host of demons referred to collectively as Lilith, who roamed the world looking to eat the flesh of men in a vampiric/succubus parallel, roaming the night and howling.

Regardless if its a myth, canon or not, this a whole lot more of sense, and tbh represents quite well the kinds of women we see in reality. Either the ego monster, that only purpose is to satisfy its selfish desires (eg, the most common type we see nowadays), and the other that sincerely accepts the guidance of men and serves with kindness (not that men should n't try to serve others as well).

To men this even draws a parallel with the christian myth, I interpret it with the snake being the profane side of the feminine, sneaky and poisonous, that makes sense to me with the image of Holy Mary stepping over the snake, eg, she defeated her profane side, reamaining truly holy.

>I'd caution you for your assertion that Purgatory is more real than Heaven and Hell on the basis of its commonality in other religions.

>Careful use of words can prevent misunderstanding. The Kingdom of Heaven on Earth is supposed to be established after Judgement Day. This is part of the Apostle's Creed.

I agree on both parts, and I know this understanding usually doesn't fly well with most christians. But that's what I tried to say, purgatory is more commonly mentioned throughout the bible, "the mansion of the dead". Same for the kingdom of heaven.

>>817326

To add the other replies, friday abstinence is only implied by the church on Lent time, and even then, its not like its promise for heaven or exchange for a blessing, its just an exercise of self-control and temperance, improving one's virtue. For example, I still keep -almost- daily my fasting diet that I kept on Lent period, fasting since lunch for a humble dinner afterwards, for one simple reason, it makes me feel better and clear minded.

>My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?

What did he mean by this? If the crucifixion was all part of the plan, why does he ask this?

>>817743

>christ about to die after the long torture and pain he was put to

Because Christ was also human and experienced suffering.

>>817746

>>817747

I knew he was quoting that psalm and I guess it makes sense as an expression of anguish and not so much Jesus being surprised at the turn of events. Is he possibly saying these words for our sake and not for his own?

Is it bad to say "God dammit"?

>>818125

Are you asking Him to damn something? If not, don't say it.

>>818129

If so don't say it either, because Christians bless and do not curse.

>>810655

>>814780

If you are just reading it for the fun of it and not indulging in the practices of said materials, then I don't see what harm it would do. I find it very fun to read the European pagan mythologies and folk tales, but I don't let it lead me astray from my faith. I did have a pagang phase long ago, but I soon discovered it was mostly New-Age mysticism that stems from occultists and Talmudic kabbalah.

Is the rosary, chaplet, prayer beads or prayer rope totally exclusive to Catholicism or Orthodoxy?

>>814780

NO!

You leave yourself open to demonic attacks reading or practicing those things even for fun. The first sin of Eve was the sin of Curiosity. There is nothing in books on tarot cards or Wicca that will help you.

It is also a mortal sin to read those books.

How recently did people stop going to church service daily? I know the earliest Christians went and took the eucharist every day and even the Puritans went to church daily. It seems even the most devout Catholics in our time go to mass every day. When did it stop and should we still be doing so today?

>>818322

I certainly agree with you that reading those things are dangerous and sinful, but are you saying all curiosity is sinful? I've never heard that before.

>>818432

Don't know when it stopped, but you should definitely be going to Church as often as you can manage. It's not obligatory, but the Holy Eucharist is a great gift with real power to change and sanctify you.

One could make the comparison that it's the spiritual equivalent of just going to some place every day and getting free 1000$ for just being there. And obviously the Eucharist is worth much more than that

How's the antichrist gonna "fix" everything during the grace period before the end times? Like I can see him fixing political issues and "solving" war, but poverty, hunger, mass immigration & crime? Not really. I was listening to a pastor in the radio and started to imagine the ways he'd go about certain things like using the internet and stuff…

Sorry if it all sounds ignorant, I'm genuinely curious, thanks for any clarification.

>>818741

Partially natural, partially demonic means. You must understand that this figure is explicitly backed by rebellious spirits. I am pretty sure he will use normal political means along with these spiritual ways to get things done.

>>818741

It honestly doesn't seem implausible for it to be either a human innovator who uses technology to solve issues like hunger via gene-editing or state-enforced food equity with meat cloning. My alternative theory is it's just an "ai" with information on every living person thanks to a constant upload of human vitals, communication, and location caused by an iot implant (mark.) Naturally man would worship its own creation and claim it's greater than a deity since it has a tangible presence on earth.

But ultimately its going to happen no matter what so don't worry too much about it. Just stay away from social media and iot devices (and cell phones if possible) as the days go by.

i want to read the bible. should i read all of it? ive been told i should only read the gospel because the gospel is the word of jesus. and all the other parts of the bible are kiked. is it true? should i read only the gospel or all of the bible?

>>819023

Read all of it and stop going to /pol/. /pol/ rots your brain. You wouldn't eat a PB&J sandwich without the PB. You wouldn't eat biscuts and gravey without the biscuts.

t. Former /pol/ack

>>819023

>all the other parts of the bible are kiked

Absolutely absurd. Sacred Scripture is the word of God. However, I would definitely recommend reading the Gospels first. The Old Testament only makes sense in light of the New Testament, but once you have that key, the OT is very beautiful and helps to explain a lot. It's also full of references, symbols, and prophecies of Christ's coming. Consider following the Gospels with the rest of the New Testament (which will give you the history of the early Church and a lot of theological/moral wisdom) and then starting with the more approachable books of the OT (Genesis, Exodus, Job, Ecclesiastes, Wisdom are some that come to mind for me). You could start reading/praying the Psalms at any time too – your understanding of them will continue to grow and change regardless. God bless, anon.

>>819032

>>819035

thanks for answering but look:

"20Then Noah built an altar to the LORD. Taking from every kind of clean animal and clean bird, He offered burnt offerings on the altar. 21When the LORD smelled the pleasing aroma, He said in His heart, “Never again will I curse the ground because of man, even though every inclination of his heart is evil from his youth. And never again will I destroy all living creatures as I have done."

why does noah make a blood sacrifice to god and why is the aroma of burning flesh pleasing to god?

>>819038

Thats how sacrifices were made in the OT. Read the Law books (Leviticus and Deuteronomy). It is choke full of examples of the sacrifices to God. It was a system to make Israel understand the consequences of their sin. Negative reinforcement I believe it is called.

It is supposed to incentivise Israel to not commit sin.

>>819038

also why does god say "every inclination of his heart is evil from his youth" when jesus says

"1At that time the disciples came to Jesus and asked, “Who then is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?” 2Jesus called a little child to stand among them. 3“Truly I tell you,” He said, “unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven."

it makes the impression to me that the LORD in the OT is in fact satan acting as gatekeeper.

>>819042

that doesnt make sense. they made blood sacrifices to god to show that its sinful? isnt that evil? also look:

"18No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is Himself God and is at the Father’s side, has made Him known. "

jesus says no one has ever seen god. but

"11Thus the LORD would speak to Moses face to face, as a man speaks with his friend. Then Moses would return to the camp, but his young assistant Joshua son of Nun would not leave the tent."

when nobody has ever seen god, how does moses speak to god face to face? was it satan instead of god?

>>819042

also that doesnt answer why the smell of burning flesh is pleasing to god.

>>819048

It's not. Read the prophets, where he says he can't stand the stench of sacrifices and fat. God doesn't have a nose. Also he even ask in the prophets "who told you to do this?" Mind the words of jeremiah, " the lying pen of the scribe has wrote falsehood"

Why exactly was Arius wrong?

>>819229

I don't think it's absurd, there are people who work afternoons and night shifts.

>>819242

Are you purposefully pretending to not understand what I’m saying? 90% of people can’t come to these late morning masses. And let’s face it, we all know that the reason for 9 AM mass is that the priest is lazy and doesn’t want to get up early.

>>819319

100% true. My parish had to practically fight the priest to get 3 of the weekday Masses at an earlier time (7am) while the rest were at 12:10pm. Some more people are able to make it because of this, although I personally think a first-hour/prime (Divine Office time) Mass at 6am would be supreme, and then a second one at 12:10pm, and maybe a third at 6pm. Sadly that will never happen.

How should a parent go about teaching his or her children the proper etiquette about waiting for marriage for sex while still explaining to them to avoid masturbation? When I and my girlfriend were being raised, both of our parents chose to not teach us anything about our sexual organs, and so we learned on our own. In doing so, we both independently decided to stay chaste til marriage. I'm curious whether this was a cause and effect of the lack of mention or if we were simply blessed by the Lord into believing so on our own. Effectively, in the shortest of versions, I'm asking on whether I should explain to my future children sexual immorality (and naturally, as they are children, give them an interest in it inadvertently…) or simply to leave it to chance. Is leaving it to chance just leaving it in God's hands, or is it being a derelict parent?

>>819366

Ephesians 5:11-12

>And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.

So according to the Bible you shouldn’t speak about masturbation at all.

If the wages of Sin are death, and Jesus redeems our Sins, why do we still die?

Does anyone have that image explaining why Jesus was depicted as being white?

>>819586

no but I can tell you

Christianity was primarily European, so he was depicted as looking like one so that the (mostly uneducated) common folk would be able to relate to him and understand him more

>>819586

>>819587

Didn't Levantine people at that time basically look white? He looks brown in some of the icons though.

>>819604

well it's probably not hard to figure out how he looked, he was described as unremarkable, so just take any mideastern guy today and you're probably not far off. not that it really matters anyways

>>819606

>Implying the people that inhabit the Middle East now are the same as those that inhabited it 2000 years ago

>>819584

Equality of opportunity, not of ability or of outcome. We posess equal spirits through our free will regardless of our ability to recognize, understand, or act on it. Different, unique, yet equal.

>>819604

>Didn't Levantine people at that time basically look white?

The image I'm talking about explained that.

>>819584

Having a higher IQ doesn't mean you're superior in the eyes of God. In fact, a lot of the "muh IQ" spergs are some of the most prideful people you'll ever find.

>>491187

Can someone answer this question? I hear people tell others they are going to hell. Isn't Christ the only one who can make that judgement, since he knows us better than us what a person's heart contains

>>819730

i agree. many "intellectuals" are simply prideful lost souls

Why doesn't Acts 28 record Paul correcting the people who think he is a God?

>>819886

Also, was it wrong for them to then use a ship with figureheads of false Roman gods when the left Malta?

Sorry for asking again, but does anyone have some concise information on the shroud of turin?

My dad blessed some food but threw it out before anyone ate it. Is that bad? You have to dispose of blessed items a specific way right?

Are there any other good Christian forums or websites to discuss things in a similar way?

>>820030

As far as I know, "blessing" the food is more about asking God's blessing for the mealtime itself. The food itself does not become sacramental.

>>819370

Sssuurrely this is a poor poor reading of this text? And by this logic we have no purpose to warn anyone of any sin ever?

My own q: I've seen 'the protocols of the elders of zion' referred to on here over the years, never having looked into it or understand what it is. Apparently the accepted position is that it's a forgery/hoax. What is /christian/''s opinion on it? Do you think it's ligit? If so on what evidence/arguments? Is it ridiculous to say so given tell evidence to the contrary? Haven't looked into it in any detail so just curious.

>in b4 /christian/ isn't one person with one opinion

U know what I'm asking

17. How do i inhibit my sexual instincts and celibate? Last year, around this time i started to celibate and managed to do like 53days or something like that, then i did 30 days twice and thats when i started to fail my streaks leading to current days when i only manage to do week or two maximum. What can I do about it? Maybe there is some tricks/chapters in the bible related to this topic?

>>820166

Are you praying the rosary on a daily basis?

>>820210

no, but some anons suggested in other thread; also could you recommend some readings?

>>820231

Verses like these usually keep me in line even when I'm on the verge of breaking down

Proverbs 26:11

Like a dog that returns to his vomit is a fool that repeats his folly

Hebrews 10:26-27 For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful expectation of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries

>>820231

>>820274

Also as far as literature, St Augustine's Confessions is the first that comes to mind. It's full of his struggles and he's very relatable.

Are angles also made in the image of God?

>>820331

Acute or obtuse angles?

>>820355

I would like to add that the crucifix is the center of all suffering. The highest reality of our fallen world.

When I was younger I believe I had said something bad about the holy spirit am I winnie the poohed christanons?

>>820382

The fact that you are here worried abiut your salvation is proof that you are not a reprobate, for a reprobate would rather be fapping or sniffing his/her own farts than be on an Italian Rosary praying forum worried about his/her salvation.

Go to confession and start praying again, you will be fine.

>>820382

Perceiving and/or believing the Holy Spirit itself to be an unclean spirit and evil is what Jesus is talking about. Blasphemous words alone against the Spirit are not unforgivable.

>And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

What did God the Son mean by this?

>>820274

>>820276

thanks

>>820583

Because they are protties.

Bros, I bought a bible on amazon for my kindle given that I couldn't find it through other means.

However I thought it was sensible of me to strip it from its DRM and shared it on libgen for other people that don't have the money or a credit card to buy it (it wasn't thaat expensive but it's common in my country and I assume in others to not own a credit card).

How bad did I screw up? I know that piracy in itself is a sin, but at the same time I think it isn't so bad to let other people have access to a curated bible.

what do.

i know the 10 commandments are still valid after the new testament but i also know theres a whole lot more OT law than that.

are there old testament laws or traditions that arent used or valid anymore after the coming of jesus? if so, which ones and where can i find out which ones?

>>820651

The OT Laws are interesting. The Ten Commandments are "spiritual" Laws and are eternal, whereas the rest are adminstrative, judicial, and ritual, which was fulfilled in the Church and State (which was once an extension of the Church). Justinian Codes and all other medieval legal systems and their descendants are successors to the OT law.

>>820583

>dear god, please give me money

>dear god, please forgive [insert name] (but not really, i really hope you just send them to hell)

>dear god, let me win this next game

I've been guilty of this myself, but if you pray to God like you would a pagan god, then you've got a dim light and your focus is not on God but on yourself.

>>820355

careful there friend, you don't want to go down the schizophrenia tree or you'll lose sight of God in the endless sea of mental constructs and illusions.

>>820809

New mass made it hard to understand what the mass actually is supposed to be.

In Catholic understanding, the mass makes the sacrifice of Christ on golgatha present. Not as a new sacrifice, but as the specific event in 33 anno incarnationis Domini, the one valid sacrifice to God in remission of venial sins.

Now, since Christ as the sacrifice suffered and died on the cross, bread and wine are given to his people throughout the ages. Outwards they are "symbols" (bread of flesh - wine of blood), but inwards they are transformed through the Holy Spirit.

I accepted this teaching when I read, how early christians emphasized the importance of the eucharist.

For example, here is Origen (Homily 38):

[…] if we do not eat the bread of life, if we do not eat the Body of Christ, if we do not drink His blood, if we neglect the holy communion of our Saviour, we should know that God holdes both benevolence and strictness.

>>820825

So, in it's physical form, the bread and wine are still bread and wine under the consecration. In that sense, it is symbolic. But since it symbolizes the sacrifice of Christ, it allows us to participate in it, not so much to remember it but to take part in it and be saved through His love, death on the cross and resurrection. The food is still food, but by allowing us to take part in the sacrament, it becomes more than mere food. Am I getting it right or am I spouting heresies?

>>820827

It sounds good to me.

According to the IV. Latern Council, which formulated tried to make the mystery of the eucharist as understandable as possible, the physical outward form (so-called accidents) doesn't change. But the unseen substance is transformed by the consecration.

I don't really have a good book to recommend, other than the Catechism: http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P3W.HTM

Also if you are interested, the video is from a good channel, posted quite often around here.

Is it a sin to pirate a book or game you have already bought?

>>820853

Actually it’s not in certain countries. You could possibly argue, assuming you live in America, that it’s okay according to copyright laws to do what you speak of. And seeing as it’s probably legal, I wouldn’t assume it was sinful.

>>820828

Thank you a lot, anon, it was quite enlightening. The video was really helpful too.

God bless you.

>>820697

so are we still supposed to do all the ritual stuff? im guessing every society's laws should still be based on the other OT laws still

I met a witch on Tinder. Should I hang out with her and drink her tea? I’ll request no fortune telling or spell casting. Also no fornicating. Just interested in tea and conversation.

>>820963

Are you trolling? Why are you using Tinder in the first place? It's essentially a catalog for extramarital sex. Do you think that's appropriate to a Christian?

Can someone explain Galatians 3:16 to me? I have been struggling with this passage for a few days now. Here, Paul exegetes the passages of Genesis (12:7, 13:15, 22:18, 24:7) which detail the promises made to Abraham and his progeny. According to Paul, since the text says that the promise is made to his 'seed' and not to his 'seeds,' this promise is referencing a particular person, namely Christ. However, in the Hebrew language, the plural form of the word 'seed' (זרע) does not differ from the singular, as in the English 'sheep' — the only means of distinguishing between the two is of context — and the context of the passages shows quite clearly that the author was referring to a multitude of descendants (Gen. 13:16, 22:17), namely the whole of the Israelites. This indicates to me that Paul was not very knowledgeable of Hebrew and simply misread the passage since he was relying on a Greek translation, which would distinguish between the singular 'seed' (σπέρματί) and the plural 'seeds' (σπέρμασιν).

>>821111

Chelsea Clinton is also a part-owner in Tinder. So literally using that app gives you money to the clintons.

>>820995

>Galatians 3:16

https://www.academia.edu/5312741/_Galatians_3_16_What_kind_of_exegete_was_Paul_

>>821222

>Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image,

This has to do with idols.

>or

==OR== (i.e. in addition to idols)

>any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth

This prohibits all depictions of God's creation.

Thoughts on Kinism? It seems like CI without the pseudoscience.

>>821225

God told them to build it.

>>820827

different anon, you'll come to realize that to walk with Christ requires walking IN Christ. Not in the sense of being Him, but of being is communion with Him. When you are baptized you die beside Him as the thief did on that cross, when you partake in his body you are with Him as the disciples were in the last supper, accepting His sacrifice for you and your sins, in full awareness of your sinful nature, when you pray you commune with Him as the Son communed with the Father on the mount of olives, expressing your whole soul before Him, hiding nothing from yourself or Him (like anger, sin, love, etc). Don't keep a glass wall between yourself and Him, where your day-to-day is on this side, but your nightly prayers are on that side. And remember that the Church is not the stones we lay, but the spirit of God within us shining outward like a beacon in the night.

For the record I'm protestant.

>>820853

Assume it is, would you be willing to stop?

What’s up with the shroud of Turin? Is the carbon dating false after all? Or is there another carbon dating that is real?

>>820638

pls help

Here's my question, a majority of mankind goes to hell, I refuse to become perfect and christ like, I don't want to live under the persecution, the self imposed over passive over nice whatever, the baptism of fire is what its called I think. I cant, too weak, so how can I make Gods Judgement on me less severe? Am I still forgiven for the sins I asked to be forgiven for or is the forgiveness become as null and void as my love for God?

>>820638

Why didn't you just get a free bible pdf, or copy the bible from biblestudy.org and paste it into a free pdf editor, and isnt this something you could tell your family or friends or pastor instead??

>>821388

>i accept im too much of a coward to be a Christian because sinners go to hell

>condem me to eternal hell too

>but like maybe make it less severe, pretty please

Please tell me this is just a bad bait post. There is no way this is serious.

Is it sinful to distill alcohol (or anything for that matter) without a license? I am too young to get a license (1 year) and I have a batch that has taken a month to ferment, I don't want to immediately throw it away or leave it to turn to vinegar. PS I don't sell it to other people, I like distilling strictly as a hobby.

>>821405

It is sinful. This has nothing to do with the law of God, and you are not harmed (the opposite actually) by throwing it out. Get rid of your distilling equipment, and don't break the law of legitimate authority.

Can anyone tell me what a Qippoz is?

>>821388

I wanted a specific version for self study.

>>820538

My understanding is that here Jesus isn't saying he isn't good. He's asking the person who calls him good what it means since he is good and only God is good. And the conclusion i that therefore Jesus is God.

>>821410

If you live in America, then the government is not legitimate. Legitimate government serves the people and this government clearly does not.

>>821635

If the question is genuine and not trolling, God is not material so "His image" doesn't mean a physical body but our essence, the soul, is made similar to Him. Thanks to our soul we have intelligence to know things, to love and freedom to make choices. The size of a part of the body is not essential to us (although proportions may be?), we still remain human even if we loose that part of the body.

>>821405

In Hungarian villages, everyone used to do this, even the most devout and Catholic men I've ever seen. It's probably a venial sin at the very most. Yes, you're supposed to submit to the authority of the state, but you still need to be careful. We're under no obligation to obey unjoly or evil laws. The reason for that law is twofold: one, to tax alcohol for income, and two, to prevent people from poisoning each other with poorly made bathtub gin. As long as you use it strictly in private and make sure it's safe to consume and don't fall into the sin of drunkenness and don't sell it, thereby avoiding tax, there's no problem. Or that's what we rural Hungarian say. And our priests are in on it.

Guys I’m recently starting to get back into Christianity. I never doubted that God existed, I just got burned out with church things and became angry at my church for different things.

I’m currently a 7th day Adventist (kinda) and I’ve been noticing that on this board it’s basically Catholics vs Orthodox (feat. Baptist’s) so I just wanna know, is seventh day Adventist a sham? And which denomination should I look into if I really wanna follow the Bible. Thanks

>>821405

I wholeheartedly agree with >>821730 but I'd like to add: be very careful, anon. Distilling alcohol can kill you if you don't know what you're doing. First, alcohol is volatile and toxic. If you're doing illegally you may be tempted to do it in a hidden place that happens to be not well ventilated or have a low ceiling. Secondly, and most important, you may get methyl alcohol / methanol, which is extremely toxic and can even cause permanent blindness.

Distilling is not a sin, if you do it for yourself, as a hobby or a experiment, and without bad intentions. But still, be mindful and responsible.

>>821410

>don't break the law of legitimate authority

Legitimate is the key here. When the government says "don't kill" it's legitimate since that mandate emanates from God. When the government says "don't do your own stuff without giving me money to spend with my cronies" there's nothing legitimate about it. The State is good when it acts in accordance with God, but don't fall into the trap of believing everything that emanates from authority is good. You may end up making an idol of the State.

Polite sage cause double posting

>>821923

>>821730

>>821410

Thank you for the responses. Yes, I know how to make alcohol safely, I have been doing it for year with alot of research and experience. I have no intentions of selling or leading myself or others into sin of drunkenness.

>>821837

>is seventh day Adventist a sham?

What is 7th day Adventist?

>And which denomination should I look into if I really wanna follow the Bible.

Don't follow the Bible, follow Christ.

Remember that the Church is not the brick and mortar but the body of Believers.

Make sure to spend time with the Christians who have the Spirit of God within them. You will know them by the fruits of the spirit, and their Christ-like nature. Spend time with these people and you will find the living church.

>>821922

>If your local priest gives sermons that seem boring or uninteresting, go to another parish.

This sounds dangerously like church-jumping (people who only go to church for the emotional high, and leave when they don't get it).

>Maybe you'll connect better with religion through mindful daily prayer, or through strongly participating in charity, or through living religion in community or through lengthy theological texts.

You'll connect even better if you just let the Holy Spirit guide you and are honest in your faith. These are all valid but can become distractions if you're doing them in the hope of connecting with God, instead of doing it out of the Love of God. The goal should be to walk in Christ, everything else will come naturally as your fertile soul bears fruit.

>talk to a priest.

This, seriously. Be easy among those who bear fruit, and weary among those who don't.

Fruits of the Spirit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_of_the_Holy_Spirit

>>822108

>This sounds dangerously like church-jumping (people who only go to church for the emotional high, and leave when they don't get it).

Yes, I should caveat that. Sometimes priests give, consistently, awful sermons. If you go to church and hear sermons that constantly make you question your faith in a bad way, then that specific church may even be harmful for you.

Some priests talk about the most mundane things. A few weekends ago, a priest gave his sermon about prudence while driving. If you go to church is to get closer to God, to get life and spiritual advice, advice you could not get in any other place. "Boring or uninteresting" was a bad choice of words on my part. I should have said something more akin to "if you find that your local priests consistently gives sermons that do not help you with your faith, consider searching for a parish were the sermons do help you".

>>822152

>A few weekends ago, a priest gave his sermon about prudence while driving.

That is an interesting topic, to be honest.

>>822281

1. No one but God the Father knows.

2. Black Pill = Despair and despair is a sign of spiritual sloth, which is a capital vice. Stop it. You are better than this.

>>822281

"Saying: Where is his promise or his coming? for since the time that the fathers slept, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. […] But of this one thing be not ignorant, my beloved, that one day with the Lord is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.The Lord delayeth not his promise, as some imagine, but dealeth patiently for your sake, not willing that any should perish, but that all should return to penance." - 2 Peter 3:4-9

>>822152

So avoid false teachers?

The ones who avoid confronting controversial topics (like depression, materialism, etc) or speaking the truth in love?

>>822648

It is likely true that in general certain ethnicities are more predisposed to bad behavior. But I would warn you against thinking that every white/black/asian/jewish person acts the same. It is divine revelation, that Christ can sanctify anyone - a hebrew and a gentile, male and female.

I'm thinking maybe their bad behavior has ritualized, for example:

Some jews have internalized this us vs them attitude

Some blacks mostly living in an environment of fear and carry that feeling on, i guess

White leftists seeing everything as oppressive

I hope I'm making sense. Whatever you think of race theories, just don't let it interfere with the commandments and you're good to go, because race is only really distinguished as the people of God and those still outside the ark.

>>822665

Can't tell if this is sh*teposting or you're legit a homosexual.

>>822281

>all over

Soon probably

>>822648

Your question is rather common. It's good that you ask.

Men are made in God's image. You can't trully love God and treat other fellow humans as "less worthy" in God's eyes. You'd be resentful towards God and towards what you have recieved from Him in you.

Also, idolatry is a concern. You should be worried about what is Godly, leave what belongs to the world in the world and seek Him instead.

Can you describe the day of catechumen in details? How long does it take? What time does the first lesson usually begin? I just want to know what awaits me.

I know this isn't exactly /christian/ related, but I can think of no better place to ask this, but…

I'm trying to remember some old quote, about not receiving good news or good will with bad intentions, like when you're just trying to be friendly but someone backslashes you because of another reason.

How does that saying goes again?

>>823053

" No Good Deed gets left unpunished"?

>>823079

That's not related at all, I kinda remembered though, its:

>Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

A person asked what are my plans for today, and I said I will probably go to an event X, but it's not in any way important to that person. Is that a promise? I know that breaking a promise is a sin, but I don't really like to go there because many of them swear, are openly gay, and otherwise are proud of their godless ways.

Why did God create Angels and Humans? Both have free will to glorify or reject God. So why was it necessary to create both when one would have been enough?

>>823163

God created the angels because He could.

>>823163

There are things angels can do that humans cannot, so there's probably a good reason.

>>823150

The Bible also says to make no oath but to say either yes or no, when dealing with earthly vows or promises. You should have said "no, I'm not going" and if asked why said "I'm not interested". That's all you need to say. Straightforward, but polite.

I would like to try attending a Catholic church. Of the two nearby, one is what I assume is a "typical" (sorry if this is rude but I don't know how else to put it) Catholic church. It's a St. Charles Borromeo church, in case that makes a difference. The other is a Byzantine Catholic church. I'm sorry if I'm misunderstanding things or being disrespectful in any way, I just really don't know much at all about how this works. Could someone explain the differences to me, and let me know if there's anything I need to know before attending them?

>>823459

Assuming you're not a Catholic:

1) The former is a Western Rite Church (ie Latin Rite), while the latter is eastern and follows its own liturgy. If you're not a fan of the Latin Rite, or in this case as you described it, then you can always partake in the Byzantine Rite, which is eastern (obviously). The differences between them are found in how the Mass is performed. Each Church has its own liturgy written by a specific Apostle, sometimes one of the original apostles. However, the core theme is the same, renewing your Covenant with God by partaking in Holy Communion.

2) you can attend the Masses in these two Churches, but you cannot receive the Eucharist, since you are not baptised into the Catholic Church.

This morning I took breakfast before mass because I know it was going to be an irreverent Novus Ordo and I would have a very hard time praying and receiving the Eucharist. My mother said that was presuming on my part. What would you do in this situation?

Hey guys, I just watched a video series and wanted /christians/ imput. The series demonstates a very compelling yet unbiased argument for Christian identity without necessarily demonizing the purported atagonists from both secular and biblical perspectives. From what I can understand and validate, it's accurate and legit.

5 parts of the series on the creators channel: titled "the not so chosen people " https://www.bitchute.com/channel/jews_for_hitler/

>>823684

Communion is communion. You fast before communion.

>>823702

I did not receive communion and did not intend to.

>>823684

Even at an irreverent liturgy, I'd fast and receive Holy Communion. You've got an opportunity for union with God and growth in grace, why would you pass it up? Obviously the circumstances aren't ideal, but I think this is missing the forest for the trees. The more time we spend with Jesus, the better, and the rest of the nonsense going on around us is a cross to patiently suffer alongside Him.

>>823785

Then I think there's no harm done.

>>823890

But >>823847 is also correct that there can be vain reasons for avoiding communion.

Do Saints have omniscience?

>>823893

They do not have it on their own, but by the power of God they are able to hear our prayers. The saints, like all on heaven, do dwell within the body of God after all. If Jesus can hear our prayers than the saints can hear our prayers as well.

Where can I look for unbiased information about which denomination is the true Church?

>>823996

The Bible

>>824116

Stop living in despair anon. There are those FAR worse off than you who still love their life. No matter how bad you think you have it, you have it better than over %50 of the world.

So stop loving in despair and go out and embrace life.

>>824116

>Why was I born without being asked?

Why did you post this here without asking us?

The answer is the same.

What % of Christ's human DNA came from Mary? Where did the rest come from? Or was it the DNA of Adam?

I want to fast as much as I can. Is it okay to eat bread only or I'll die?

Is there any practical guide to ascetical life?

>>824156

It's sinful to fast on feast days, or to fast excessively, or to refuse the kindness of others. The ascetics varied their diet with fruits, vegetables, and insects, and fasted based on instruction from their spiritual father. While it may not be the wrong thing spiritually for you to fast constantly, it requires a great deal of consideration and discernment. It's only a good thing when you focus the energy from eating into prayer, otherwise it's a worse sin. If you aren't already, follow the Orthodox fasting schedule (New Calendar). It should be challenging enough as a start.

>>824152

I've heard people use that to argue that Jesus was actually a female since there was no male to give him the Y chromosome. Obviously the argument falls apart, but those people are adamant that Christ was a woman.

Where can i download a KJV audiobook?

>>824220

There are a few on Amazon and barnes and noble online. I think there's even a 1611 authorized version so you might want to look into that. There are other related stuff you can find cool.

>>824271

I ain't paying for it

>>824273

Print one off the project gutenberg version. You can get a free subscription too and keep it permanently after I think, or you can find an reading of the whole bible on YouTube and listen that way.

>>824220

Right here http://www.divinerevelations.info/bible/

Which ancient language is most worth learning for Bible study, Koine Greek, Hebrew or Aramaic?

>>824813

Koine greek

How do I remain passionate about Christianity and avoid letting practicing it feel like a mere chore?

BUNKER LINKS., POSTING IS GETTING HIT HARD.

https://imgur.com/a/pz23kfk

Shitwheels has betrayed us.

>>825053

I'm not worried. Seems the only boards that will be affected are the /pol/s and the /b/s. If you are worried and I would just pray pray that our little bored doesn't get obliterated by an LOIC or satanic spammers.

We have survived worse we will be fine. 8chan is a fed Honeypot after all. I doubt Uncle Sam will allow 8chan to go away anytime soon.

Anyone have a response to this?

>>11270

Does God incarnated(Jesus) have a sexual drive? If yes then does the bible say whether or not He's a virgin or married?

>>825092

Does it really matter? It is normal for Christian couples to enjoy sex. It is abnormal to spend time concerned about whether Jesus had sex or not. Gentlemen do not kiss and tell.

>>825092

He does not have a gnomic will, so no.

>>825092

>Does God incarnated(Jesus) have a sexual drive?

He faced temptation and was fully human. It's safe to assume he had a sexual drive.

>If yes then does the bible say whether or not He's a virgin or married?

He's without sin, and He wasn't married. Therefore, He was virgin. St Paul also clearly states that virginity and chastity is the most moral stance to sex, so we can also deduct from that the virginity of Jesus. Jesus mission was also to die for us on the cross and triumph over death. His mission did not involve having offspring, so therefore he didn't. If He had children, you can be sure they'd be mentioned in the Bible.

>>825253

He might choke on it. Instead, you should start a trust fund to send him to Catholic school.

are catholics allowed to marry divorced women if the marriage was civil and non-sacramental?

>>825382

As far as I know, the Catholic Church recognizes most marriages as valid, even those done outside the Church, but they would just "natural marriages" and not sacramental. I think the circumstances also depend on whether the woman is Catholic and when she converted to the faith: was she Catholic before her first marriage? Did she convert during it, or after the divorce?

Any Catholic in that situation should just go and talk to his local priest and explain the specifics of his situation.

Does anyone know if there's some way to hide the disclaimer?

It's kinda jarring.

>>825499

Nevermind, just found it.

Touching on what >>816608 said half a year ago, are there forms of sex within marriage (anal, oral, etc.) that are forbidden? If they are, on what grounds?

>>825586

Thanks, I can live with that answer. Would that also mean that any position besides missionary is b& as well? I'm not trying to grasp at straws for an answer I'll like, I'm genuinely curious.

What, if anything, does the Bible say about the Earth's shape?

>yes, this is a FE question

>>825653

Friend, you don't need the Bible to tell you that the Earth is round much like you don't need the Bible to tell you how to perform an appendectomy. The Bible is a theological and history book, not a science book. The verses you see saying "the four corners of the earth" are poetical.

If the Earth was flat the sun and moon would never set or there would be no time zones as day and night would be uniform across the entire earth.

Humanity knew the earth was round before Jesus was born. See embed related as it has a mathematical proof.

>>825688

How can objects be seen from distances which should be impossible if the Earth was a sphere?

>The Statue of Liberty being seen from 60 miles away

https://www.bitchute.com/video/DPZcyqG8OGWM/

>>825688

>The Bible is a theological and history book, not a science book.

>The verses you see saying "the four corners of the earth" are poetical.

So is it a theological history book or a poetry book?

>>825784

>60 miles away

The circumference of the Earth is 24,901 miles. 60 is a tiny blip. It's not even a full degree of latitude. It also depends on how high up you are and how clear a a day it is. I'm not watching your video, but I'm sure you can try some simple math.

>>825785

Depending on which version you read, it varies. Most English translations are poetic, rejecting colloquialism for literal translation. For example, "40 days and 40 nights" is a specific amount of time in English; but, in cultural terms of the people who wrote the BIble, it just meant "a long time". Based on perspective, a week can be "a long time" or an hour can be "a long time". It's one of the problems with most English translations.

>>825790

>I'm sure you can try some simple math

Yeah I'll give it a shot…

Given the Earth's stated circumference, the curvature drop amounts to 8 inches per mile(squared)

>1mi = 8in

>10mi = 800in

>60mi = 28,800in

>28,800in = 2,400ft

So, something on the surface, as observed from something else on the surface, should be? Yes, 2,400ft below the horizon and therefore unobservable.

The statue of liberty is 315ft from base to tip of torch. Adding the rock foundation it stands upon gives it another 24ft. So the tip of the torch is 329ft above sea level…Let's call it FOUR HUNDRED just to make the simple math a little more simple shall we?

>2,400ft- 400ft = 2,000ft

It's been said that not just the tip, but the entirety of the statue can be seen by boat passengers as far as 60 miles away.

>duh they're higher than sea level

Please give me some simple math calculations for how much further an observer will see given a certain height of observation.

>>825813

I'm afraid you're going to have to take a freshman level geometry class. I'm not going to sit here and spoonfeed you. God helps those who help themselves, so go help yourself. However, it's become clear to me that you don't really care about scripture or the nature of the Bible or colloquial language; but rather are trying to use God's Word to justify your insane belief in a flat earth.

How do you go to church if you are a lonely sperg? I mean, most of the people there are older, or go with their family, everyone knows each other.

I'm afraid I'll just stand out and feel awkward all the time.

>>825959

>How do you go to church if you are a lonely sperg?

That is precisely the reason you should go to church.

>most of the people there are older, or go with their family, everyone knows each other

Stop making excuses.

>I'm afraid

You should rejoice and be exceedingly glad

>>826003

I'm not making excuses, I've been having difficulties fitting in all my life. Besides, the preacher is a woman so I don't know how to take it.

>>826004

>Besides, the preacher is a woman so I don't know how to take it.

You run very far away from there and never look back. Go to a traditional Latin Mass chapel [FSSP or ICKSP]. A self-described sperg like you will like it a lot better there.

>>826013

I might think about but I have some questions. I was baptized as orthodox when I was born. I really like the orthodox denomination but there are no churches in this country so I received my confirmation as teen in a protestant church and am registered as a member. Can I just walk into a catholic church and ask to be baptized as catholic or something? Wouldn't it be weird if I became a Catholic if my dad and my mom are orthodox and protestant respectively? I really have no cultural or ethnical relation to catholicism. Also, am I obliged to be a papist if I become a catholic? I'm not really that much into the pope thing.

Sorry if the questions are stupid but as you can see I don't have that much experienced with being a christian as I never gave it serious thought.

>>826018

It could get heated between you and your parents, yes, although it's hard to say since I don't know them. As for the cultural aspects of Catholicism, I'm a convert who attends a parish with a high percentage of French Catholics and sorta understand what you mean, although I don't believe you'll be an outcast. The worst thing about it is having missed out on a Catholic upbringing, so meeting/befriending/dating Catholics your age is that much more difficult. As for the Pope, most Catholics tend to pray for him, quote him on occasion, give him praise for doing a good deed, and that's about it. Unlike what Protestants would have you believe about "Pope worship" and other old wives' tales, he doesn't play much of a role in our lives.

>>826038

>>826020

Thanks for the answers, frens. My parents aren't very devout so I don't think it should be a problem. In any case, I'll attend a catholic mass and see where to go from there.

So, I'm a spanish girl who loves god above all things but have issues with race. White people literally seem to be the devil and the worst race of all. What can I do to stop hating Whitey?

>>826109

>White people literally seem to be…

How does one even fall to that type of propaganda. If you are taught to hate yourself you know something is off. Its a rhetoric created by foreign elements (jews) against Euro Christendom, that is why you shouldnt read news from most websites and also abstain from netflix/hollywood. Instead of war by gunpowder its psychical war.

Be eternally grateful you had valiant euro Christian ancestors that drove the muslims out or you'd be worshiping satan right now.

Then they did the good deed of evangelizing those also satanists who did human sacrifices in the other side of the atlantic. There was violence? Human sacrificing canaanites were also conquered by the sword and with God's favor.

Can a Catholic be confirmed without a sponsor? Asking for a friend who has no Catholic friends.

posted this on /pnd/ as well

My cousin is getting married to a jew this summer and it's obviously making me uncomfortable for several reasons, ranging from everything I've learned about them from imageboards and that other members of my family are also slightly upset with it. We're all pretty sure that she's going to convert to Judaism because of it. It's going to be one huge clash of Christians and Jews and I honestly don't know if I'll be able to keep my mouth shut. I don't know how I should feel about it.

>>826302

>I honestly don't know if I'll be able to keep my mouth shut

why would you want to? just make sure you don't start mumbling /pol/-tier conspiracy theories about how they're lizard people in human suits and did 9/11 (ie things that regardless of their truth, are not provable or relevant to your specific situation)

I'm trying to decide between Orthodoxy and Catholicism, and I'm hoping to be able to start attending services from each denomination to get a better firsthand feel of the atmosphere. Nevertheless, one of the make-or-break questions for me is, does Catholicism (particularly of the Trad variety) feel that my non-Catholic family members will automatically go to Hell?

I ask this particularly because, as far as I can tell, Orthodoxy does not feel as though non-Orthodox will inherently be sent to Hell, only that Orthodoxy is the surest way to Heaven. Is this actually the case? And what of the Catholic position on the question?

I love my family more than I love living, and I couldn't join a church that consigns them to damnation.

>>826270

No, you need to have a sponsor as far as I know. Talk to other parishioners maybe, I'm sure sure at least one person would be happy to do it. The whole point of having a sponsor is to help you along in being integrated into the church community.

>>826321

Anytime you let Satan win, their souls go to hell. The problem though is that even "regular Catholics" and Protestants are doing this all the time. Even a goody-goody in Catholic church once a week or once a month, isn't guarantee'd a spot in heaven. Especially if any of them have the habit to disregard the Bible moment they've stepped outside. Just at "Women priests" in other denominations for example, who are infamous for this behavior of "embracing world peace" or "the end of racism" Anytime you tell your kids about world peace, remember "world war" and "world peace" are interwoven events. You cannot have peace without paying the blood of young men. This blood requirement will be be forced to the next population for the next taste of " world peace".

There's a strict line between "believing in God" and "having faith in God." If you're not a half-bad parental figure, then hopefully you can raise more of the latter than the former.

Pretty sure I'm damned, I'm always falling into Mortal Sin. I wonder if things like posting to political boards and all that is a mortal sin, there's a lot of evil in the world and it makes me angry because I know what's going on… And sex is everywhere. We live in a pagan hedonistic world. How can I not have impure thoughts?

Perhaps tho, these are venial sins. To be a moral sin it must be both a serious sin and intentional. What is the dividing line between venial and moral when it comes to a serious sin? It appears that is a sin to teach the difference!

1) Robbing the bank

2) Planning to rob the bank, but seeing the guard with the shot gun give you the look over and deciding not to rob the bank.

3) Reading "How to Rob Banks for Dummies". Is bank robbing practical?

4) Thinking about robbing a bank, but would never actually do it.

5) Watching a movie about robbing a bank, and thinking "they're the bad guys".

I'm thinking 3 is moral and 4 is venial.

>>826413

A mortal sin is the complete turning away from God and embracing something else in place. It’s deadly to the life of grace, because it insults the honor of God and injures the soul of the sinner. We're talking things like rape, murder, incest. If you're doing those things, then you need to seek immediate help.

Impure thoughts are disconcerting, but not untreatable. Go to confession, pray the Rosary, and do your best. We all fall short, but remember that you are worthy of His love.

why does the bible claim that there are four legged insects/four legged birds?

>Leviticus 11:20

>All flying insects that walk on all fours are to be regarded as unclean by you

>Leviticus 11:20

>All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.

did jesus ever say "I am god" word for word?

>>826434

show me the verse, now remember Jesus has to say "I am god", directly and unambiguously

>>826436

>show me the verse

John 10:30

>directly and unambiguously

You accept that "eating = pooping" and don't need Jesus to say "I'm going to poop" in order to believe he pooped; but you can't accept the simple statement, "I and the Father are one."?

If I said that to you, wouldn't you think I was saying that I'm God? How about this …

I AND ID:1bbfa9 FROM THE OTHER THREAD ARE ONE!

Am I not pointing out that I am that same person from >>520608 ?

>>826438

>You accept that "eating = pooping" and don't need Jesus to say "I'm going to poop" in order to believe he pooped; but you can't accept the simple statement, "I and the Father are one."?

yes, because it's also backed by other verses where Jesus refers to himself as a man

>I and the Father are one

>My Father is greater than I

>If I said that to you, wouldn't you think I was saying that I'm God?

no i wouldn't

"I and the father are one" can be interrupted this way

>me and x are agreeing on something

>me and x are on the same page

>me and x come from the same angle

why does it have to mean that Jesus is god?

yet an another person that couldn't bring a verse where Jesus directly says "I am god"

>>826436

Thank you friend for doing my suggestion! It really helps keep threads on topic and not many anons, even some Christians are not willing to help facilitate discussion.

I'll try answering the insect question.

"Insect" is not a good translation of the Hebrew, ‎שֶׁ֣רֶץ or sherets (Strong 8313). A better literal translation is "swarming things" or "crawling things" or even the English "bugs". I'm assuming most translations are carrying insect over from the KJV, when insect was synonymous very simple small creatures rather than the strict modern taxonomical definition. Fowl is also a bad definition here for עוֹף, or oph (Strong 5775), which can refer to any flying creature and not just a bird. This includes flying bugs.

Now there's another thing we have to consider. The ancient Hebrews did not consider the rear legs of insects to be regular legs. Rather, they would consider what we call the hind legs of insects to be a special appendage for propulsion, flight, or some other. We can see this in Lev. 11:21-22 when God allows the Israelites to eat locusts. The four "legs" of locomotion are called "feet" in these verses compared to hind "leg" used for jumping. because the four legs are treated collectively against the jointed hind leg, they are thus different in the anceint Hebrew's mind.

Simply put, any insect or bug that use the front and middle legs to walk are unclean, while locusts and like creatures fly and hop. I hope this is helpful.

I have a question why are you fags even here cant you make your own ib without shitting up this one with your kike worship.

>>826444

>can be interrupted

Your personal interpretation doesn't matter. 2 thousand years and 10,000 Biblical scholars all have interpreted John 10:30 to mean exactly one thing - Jesus claiming to be God.

Why do you think you're so much smarter or more enlightened?

>>826469

i care about what Christ has said

i don't care about what Christians are saying

>10,000 Biblical scholars

can you name them for me?

so far there is no direct statement from the bible by Jesus where he has said "I am god"

you can't say Jesus is lord unless he himself claims so

>i and x are one

this is like two people literally saying

>we come from the same angle

2000 years ago

>Why do you think you're so much smarter or more enlightened?

I'm neither smarter or more enlightened, i just want the truth that is very direct, and if the bible is the word of god then that won't be difficult

>>826475

This is “Questions That Don’t Deserve Their Own Thread” not “Arguments Started in Bad Faith”. Your question was answered sufficiently multiple times, and each time you’ve doubled down on the question because you don’t like the answer. No one here is going to abandon their faith because of your infantile word games, so just piss off.

My legal wife thinks that because I returned to the Catholic faith that now I can't divorce her.

That's not quite true. The N.O. Bishop says I can keep living under the same roof with her, but we're not married in the eyes of the Church, because she refuses sex for 4 years now.

I'm not sure what to do.

>>826544

A surgeon doesn't amputate a leg because of a broken toe. Marriage is permanent. I suggest you both go to a licensed Catholic counselor.

>>826545

>Marriage is permanent.

You missed the part where I mentioned that the Catholic Church doesn't think I'm married. They said there was "No marriage to heal".

In the old days, they'd tell me to get a legal divorce and move.

That's my dilemma…. If I go SSPX, they will tell me I live in sin even with no sex, thus cannot take communion.

>>826545

> I suggest you both go to a licensed Catholic counselor.

She's a hard core atheist. No way will she agree to that.

>>826546

>>826547

Did you get married in the Church? If so, then you ARE married and divorce is an absolute no. In not, then don't worry about it.

>SSPX

May as well go to the Baptists.

How do we know some of the exact numbers and measurements of oddly specific things in the Bible? For instance, when reading through Numbers and how it gives an account of how much each offering weighed down to the shekel, how do we know that's exactly what it weighed? Did the priests keep physical records of each offering?

>>826591

Depends on the era. Yes, priests kept a physical record. It's easy enough to look it up, but be prepared to cry if you don't trust "muh JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOISH!!!!" sources.

But if you're looking for recipes, just wing it.

Why didn't Jesus, being without sin, cast the first stone on the adulterous woman?

>>826693

Because he came to save her, not persecute her. He said, "who among you" not "who among us".

Before coming back home to the Catholic Church, I married a divorced Protestant. What do?

I am in RCIA and about to be baptized and confirmed in about 2 weeks. I am excited and thank Jesus for loving me, and saving me at a critical tine in my life. I am just curious about 1 thing. I have forgiven EVERYONE that has wronged me: does that mean God will forgive me of all that I had done? I am truly sorry for my sins, and wish to do better. I am even thinking or religious life. I am just curious on the matter is all. I love Him with every fiber of my being. I can't imagine eternity without Him

Can you be a Christian and have this reading of Jacob and Esau? In short:

>Jacob is an evil jew trickster

https://youtu.be/BI32dIhSKYU

Requesting an info pic on the Scofield reference Bible about it's Jew subversion