ae6b30 No.22234 [View All]
''The Empire our mother and the Emperor our father,
who tasked us to sail, build a kingdom like no other.
We built a new city from nothing but ashes,
yet creatures awaited for us in the marshes.
Oh mother send us faith,
Oh fatrher send us strength,
Darkness arises from depth.
We banish the devils we track down the beasts,
yet each day that passes they lurk in the mists!
We fight the evil and purge the undead,
yet it won't be long until we are all dead.''
Ugh by the name of all the gods I HATE poems! Says the emperor, thrusting his fist against the wooden table. The silver plattery shakes, but not as hard as the councilor on the very far end of the table, scuffling to impode into his robes. I… I know sire. B-but this is all the common folk are talking about, is what the bards sing in t- The emperor interrupts him by thrusting his fist against the table again, this time the councilor squeaks in a cowardly voice. I DO NOT CARE FOR THE PEASANTRY THOUGHTS!. The plattery stops shaking before the councilor speaks again Yes lord, o-ofcourse you don't. But If we ignore the pleadings of the people and let our colonized city to be demised- Why would I care about one city? There are a thousand more! the emperor grunts and drinks from his goblet . The councilor takes a deep breath before speaking again, this time in a clear crystal voice Sire, it is your great name that is on the stakes here. The emperor chokes on his wine and drops the goblet to cling and roll on the marbled floor. It takes him a minute of coughing before straightening up in his chair again. Fine! send the entire fleet with 200,000 men!. W-wait sire, the situation is not severe, we need merely a thousand to deal with- NO! YOU FOOL! MY NAME IS AT THE STAKES HERE!.
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This is where our story begins. In a mythical land surrounded by ever creeping darkness, there stands a city. A beacon of hope for humanoids and civilization - the colony of the empire. You take the role of a guild within the city, sent by the emperor to govern the city and defend it while the empire assembles their 200,000 troops and sail your way to secure the area once and for all. Your guild will be facing off darkness from the outside and intrigue between the other guilds from the inside. How will you act? Improving yourself within the city by might weaken the city against the hordes of evil outside. Improving the city may come over your own benefits. Will you strike the right balance?
Become influencial and write the laws everyone in the city will bow to!
Start a rebellion to become the ruler of the city!
Become the hero the city needs and slay the dark beyond the walls!
Ally with darkness and see the city falls!
And much more…
http://imgur.com/oG5mnhw - how the game is being played
http://imgur.com/nxBzbVa - character mechanics
http://pastebin.com/WqVzHLej - sign up (please contact me through mibbit IRC via PM before signing up)
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ae6b30 No.22795
>>22789
you can't recruit more then one and birstan is already recruited. im recruiting ellie only.
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'Ellie Fiddletoe' the Halfling Wizard Has joined 'AOG'
The party has arrived to Banish the fairy from the city's library
– Round 1 –
Herohero started mumbling words from the scroll in disorder, the scroll twitched and sent sparks to the walls as if it was resisting, causing the fairy to flinch. (delivered 1 points of damage)
Ulbert Alain Odle stared at the scroll blankly, without being able to make sense of the words in it. (delivered 0 points of damage)
Peroroncino masterfuly whispers at the scroll, causing it to change shape into a large snake that wraps itself around the fairy (delivered 4 points of damage)
Felras started mumbling words from the scroll in disorder, the scroll twitched and sent sparks to the walls as if it was resisting, causing the fairy to flinch. (delivered 1 points of damage)
The fairy yells and twists on the floor, spouting demonic words in pain!(hp: 4/10)
Felras has taken 5 points of damage from a fairy strike.
Ulbert Alain Odle has taken 3 points of damage from a fairy strike.
– Round 2 –
Herohero started mumbling words from the scroll in disorder, the scroll twitched and sent sparks to the walls as if it was resisting, causing the fairy to flinch. (delivered 1 points of damage)
Ulbert Alain Odle started mumbling words from the scroll in disorder, the scroll twitched and sent sparks to the walls as if it was resisting, causing the fairy to flinch. (delivered 1 points of damage)
Peroroncino stared at the scroll blankly, without being able to make sense of the words in it. (delivered 0 points of damage)
Felras masterfuly whispers at the scroll, causing it to change shape into a large snake that wraps itself around the fairy (delivered 4 points of damage)
Ancient tongues danced in arcane might around the fairy until it could take no more! The fairy is finally banished!
You have looted 100 gold.
'Herohero' the Elven Warrior earned 25 points of experience!
'Herohero' the Elven Warrior(Trained) has earned enough experience and became a trained Warrior!(+1 class score, +1 overall score, new ability - Athletic!)
'Ulbert Alain Odle' the Gnome Wizard earned 25 points of experience!
'Peroroncino' the Gnome Wizard earned 25 points of experience!
'Peroroncino' the Gnome Wizard(Trained) has earned enough experience and became a trained Wizard!(+1 class score, +1 overall score, new ability - Necromancer!)
'Felras' the Elven Wizard earned 25 points of experience!
You have gained 1 fame.
The party has returned home, bringing a total loot of 100 gold, 0 ore, 0 meat, 0 crops and 0 might.
> [Loot Tax laws = Small loot tax]
The city has taxed a total amount of 25 gold.
– Aftermath –
You have recieved 5 might from the casters in your guild
your influence has increased by 10 points(the amount of your fame)
'Momon' the Gnome Wizard went down to the cellars and consumed crops (-1 crops, +1 morale)
'Ulbert Alain Odle' the Gnome Wizard went down to the cellars to get crops, and was deeply dissapointed to find none! (-2 morale)
'Peroroncino' the Gnome Wizard(Trained) went down to the cellars to get crops, and was deeply dissapointed to find none! (-2 morale)
'Herohero' the Elven Warrior(Trained) went down to the cellars to get crops, and was deeply dissapointed to find none! (-2 morale)
'Felras' the Elven Wizard went down to the cellars to get crops, and was deeply dissapointed to find none! (-2 morale)
'Ellie Fiddletoe' the Halfling Wizard went down to the cellars and consumed meat (-1 meat, +1 morale)
'Ulbert Alain Odle' the Gnome Wizard has recovered 1 points of health.
'Peroroncino' the Gnome Wizard(Trained) has recovered 2 points of health.
'Felras' the Elven Wizard has recovered 1 points of health.
Momon and Ellie Fiddletoe had to split the guild's house chores between them and couldn't agree on anything.
Momon now considers Ellie Fiddletoe as a rival.
Ellie Fiddletoe now considers Momon as a rival.
Ulbert Alain Odle spent the day hidden beneath the blanket, trying to sleep as much as possible.
Peroroncino dressed like a zombie and spooked Felras in the dark. Felras laughed(+1 morale).
Herohero and Momon talked about politics. They feared really expressing their thought and the discussion never got anywhere.
Felras and Peroroncino talked about politics. They feared really expressing their thought and the discussion never got anywhere.
Ellie Fiddletoe wrote a personal journal about the life at the guild
Stats : http://pastebin.com/inwW3Hpq
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ae6b30 No.22797
1.) Silverfitter hires some distant laborers and begins building a wall on the western (left) end of the guild's borders. When asked for its purpose by the city officials, he proclaims that it's a "Most needed precaution against the recent forces of darkness that have made themselves known in the realm!"
2.) Mortimer and Bruce are sent to continue butchering meat in the fields, with a directive as to process the animals in such a way as to minimize hide loss.
3.) Azucena Briallen continues leatherworking from the resulting leather; it is hoped that she'll do better this time; "There are standards we have to live up to if we want to keep our public name!" says Silverfitter.
Silverfitter groans about having to keep the front of their enterprise so stringent; on one hand, nobody but those specifically in the know knew that any of their party were wizards; on the other, seeing all this chaos unfold around the city outskirts was making him quite uneasy.
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ae6b30 No.22860
>>22267
Since you didn't comment ( :c ) Im noly giving you aftermath.
– Aftermath –
You have gained 2 points of might for being a religious guild.
You have recieved 3 might from the casters in your guild
your influence has increased by 10 points(the amount of your fame)
You gained additional 1 fame for being the lawkeepers guild
You find it hard to maintain high fame, the guild lost 1 points of fame
'Hochmeisterin Theressa Vald' the Human Paladin went down to the cellars and consumed crops (-1 crops, +1 morale)
'Sindarel' the Elven Paladin went down to the cellars and consumed crops (-1 crops, +1 morale)
'Adrian Hunt' the Human Wizard went down to the cellars and consumed meat (-1 meat, +1 morale)
'Gertrud Stonehand' the Dwarven Ranger went down to the cellars and consumed crops (-1 crops, +1 morale)
'Gertrud Stonehand' the Dwarven Ranger went down to the cellars and consumed crops (-1 crops, +1 morale)
Hochmeisterin Theressa Vald felt angry all day and in a tantrum kicked some of Sindarel's personal stuff (-1 morale).
Sindarel and Adrian Hunt spent their entire day inside the guild just talking and enjoying each other's company(+1 morale to both).
Adrian Hunt talked with Sindarel about politics, they have found out they both share similliar opinions and views about the current events.(+1 morale to both)
Gertrud Stonehand and Adrian Hunt talked about politics. They feared really expressing their thought and the discussion never got anywhere.
Stats: http://pastebin.com/xJ8fnRPa
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ae6b30 No.22861
>>22797
> Silverfitter can't build a wall due to lack of ore. He'll craft leatherworks instead.
[Silverfitter rolled a good knowledge score] and crafted adequate leather braces to protect the arm, the braces were sold to a bunch of huntsmen (+50 gold)
[Azucena rolls a low knowledge score] and crafted a leather jacket, but made a mistake and the strings in the jacket didn't hold. The jacket tore apart. Azucena only managed to sell it as a simple curtain afterwards (+10 gold)
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Mortimer Knamenkiz slaughtered 4 meat.
Bruce Ecurb slaughtered 4 meat.
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Mortimer Knamenkiz slaughtered 4 meat.
Bruce Ecurb slaughtered 0 meat.
–
> [Resource Tax laws = High resource tax]
The city has taxed a total amount of 0 ore, 6 meat and 0 crops.
– Aftermath –
You have recieved 3 might from the casters in your guild
your influence has increased by 6 points(the amount of your fame)
You don't have enough resources to maintain the tavern, the tavern will be closed until the end of the next turn
'Elie Silverfitter' the Human Wizard went down to the cellars to get crops, and was deeply dissapointed to find none! (-2 morale)
'Azucena Briallen' the Human Wizard went down to the cellars and consumed meat (-1 meat, +1 morale)
'Mortimer Knamenkiz' the Human Wizard went down to the cellars to get crops, and was deeply dissapointed to find none! (-2 morale)
'Bruce Ecurb' the Human Warrior went down to the cellars to get crops, and was deeply dissapointed to find none! (-2 morale)
Azucena Briallen woken up on the right foot and was radiating optimism the entire day (+1 morale).
Mortimer Knamenkiz and Azucena Briallen travelled together to the corner of the city where they found their own hangout loaction and spent the day in it.(+1 morale to both)
Bruce Ecurb and Mortimer Knamenkiz spent a nice day together travelling just outside the city walls.
Bruce Ecurb now considers Mortimer Knamenkiz as a friend.
Mortimer Knamenkiz now considers Bruce Ecurb as a friend.
Stats: http://pastebin.com/LHNQqRGT
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ae6b30 No.22862
>>22860
>Anniria has been trying to reach you as she believes you wanted to PM her something
>I keep trying to reach you so I can say that, but it's hard because both of us (and her) aren't same timezone
>Just FYI
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ae6b30 No.22864
>>22862
She can still comment tho, i wanted to talk with her but it doesn't come over making an action at the game.
Anniria - if you didn't understand me correctly and thought you shouldn't comment until I PM you - then im sorry. And i'll let you have double action next turn (since i took away your action wrongly this turn)
On another note: It seems like we are game overing soon. Since this is a 10 players game and the difficulty is at a scale of 10 players game, yet i get only about 8 comments per turn. Ill try to recruit 1-2 more members before we continue. I do have the next turn ready right now and can post it, but i prefer to have a whole experience rather than compromise everything.
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ae6b30 No.22872
>>22864
sorry, also been busy and having personal issues, also just a side note,
> Hochmeisterin can't lead the party. Only work manager / guild leader can lead parties to doa labor mission. im putting the guild leader in charge then.
this is funny to me since you say the guild leader can't lead the work party and that only a guild leader can so you're going to put the guild leader in charge, just something I thought I'd point out.
my action this turn is just a repeat of last turn
1. Sindarel shall take an expansion action, expanding the guild's territory into the market and the two neighborhood tiles next to it and the guild area.
2.3.4. Led my the Hochmeisterin the remaining guild members shall go to the butchery to collect meat
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ae6b30 No.22873
>>22872
also I think my influence is wrong, this turn I gained 10, last turn I gained 9, but it says I have 17 influence, which not even counting previous influence is wrong, unless I still lost 10 influence for trying to expand and went negative, which is not something I thought was possible.
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ae6b30 No.22901
CITY REPORT: http://pastebin.com/ESBtfxyh
First to comment is the first to take action.
Read the http://imgur.com/oG5mnhw for in-depth description of each action
Read the city report before making your action, you can see available missions, recruits, prices and laws that affect everyone directly . http://pastebin.com/ESBtfxyh
## HINT: Minor skills are used mostly in long journeys due to special event. Events in the forests will require cunning and precise skills, events in the deserts and mountains are more likely to test the physical skills of the party.
>>22873
No you aren't wrong you can't go negative. I g2g right now btu ill go over it at home (I have all previous turns saved) and see where i went wrong, then ill add your current action to the stats.
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ae6b30 No.22903
>>22901
http://pastebin.com/Q1vFfbJT
>Send Alexandra to claim the 3 territories south West of our territory
>Send Everyone else to farm in the east.
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ae6b30 No.22905
>>22903
Free Political action:
>Action 1: Change transaction policy
>2)'Sustained transactions policy' - To prevent dramatic climates at the market, each guild can only make up to 30 transactions in a single turn.
The Empty Maw posts images across the city, stating that the markets are now reopened, to allow the average folks of the city to purchase goods and services within the city. To insure that no power takes advantages of the shortages in food, no single group will be allowed to make large purchases that could destabilize the markets at this time.
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ae6b30 No.22906
>>22901
There should only be 287 threat on the city right now.
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ae6b30 No.22907
>>22901
http://pastebin.com/gje4yUU0
1. Occam casts a spell to summon Conjure 20 Ore, from 30 Might.
2. If possible, I would like said 20 Ore and 400 Gold to be spent to build an Arcanium under the directions of Captain Smitus (left of our HQ)
3. Shivros is to be promoted to a Captain
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ae6b30 No.22908
>>22903
Jitat Glass-Eyes takes the party to harvest at noon when it is boiling hot outside. Sweaty work, yet the party had few complaints.
Jitat Glass-Eyes harvested 0 crops.
Mr. Jameson harvested 6 crops.
Lind Diggle harvested 0 crops.
Jitat Glass-Eyes was helping Lind Diggle rooting out some bad grass that was ruining the field. Lind Diggle was happy and thanksful(+1 morale to Lind Diggle).
Mr. Jameson designated an area of the field for everyone to harvest. Lind Diggle didn't really care and harvested elsewhere (-1 morale to Mr. Jameson)
Lind Diggle was helping Mr. Jameson rooting out some bad grass that was ruining the field. Mr. Jameson was happy and thanksful(+1 morale to Mr. Jameson).
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Jitat Glass-Eyes harvested 2 crops.
Mr. Jameson harvested 4 crops.
Lind Diggle harvested 0 crops.
The second day went quietly, everyone were too busy working and made no contact with each other.
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The party has returned home, bringing a total loot of 0 gold, 0 ore, 0 meat and 12 crops.
> [Resource Tax laws = High resource tax]
The city has taxed a total amount of 0 ore, 0 meat and 6 crops.
> [New policy] 'Sustained market policy' Is now effectively enforced around the city
– Aftermath –
You have recieved 2 might from the casters in your guild
your influence has increased by 8 points(the amount of your fame)
You gained additional 1 fame for being the trademasters guild
You paid the upkeep for keeping the tavern(1 ore, 1 meat, 1 crops)
From wild adventurers to high courtiers, they all arrived to drink some mead and spill some secrets. Gain 2 influence and 100 gold!
'Jitat Glass-Eyes' the Gnome Wizard went down to the cellars and consumed crops (-1 crops, +1 morale)
'Alexandra Magetaker' the Halfling Rogue(Trained) went down to the cellars and consumed meat (-1 meat, +1 morale)
'Mr. Jameson' the Human Wizard went down to the cellars and consumed crops (-1 crops, +1 morale)
'Lind Diggle' the Halfling Warrior went down to the cellars and consumed meat (-1 meat, +1 morale)
'Jitat Glass-Eyes' the Gnome Wizard has recovered 3 points of health.
Jitat Glass-Eyes was practicing minor illusion tricks at the garden.
Alexandra Magetaker stole Jitat Glass-Eyes 's underwear and hid it. Jitat Glass-Eyes found it unfunny(-1 morale).
Lind Diggle wrote a personal journal about the life at the guild
Stats: http://pastebin.com/zHadq9VB
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ae6b30 No.22909
>>22907
You need 2 more members following occam in order to cast the spell ( 30 might spell = 3 members to cast)
Tho your action is still valid, im going to put Shvros and Fisto after occam. Shivros can still be promoted (doesnt cost an action) and Smitus will build the arcanium.
So imma do that
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An Arcanium was built just outside the guildhall, its light looming through the guild's windows and fills the decorated halls in a magical light.
– Aftermath –
You have gained 4 points of might for being a religious guild.
You have recieved 4 might from the casters in your guild
your influence has increased by 9 points(the amount of your fame)
You paid the upkeep for maintaining the Arcanium(2 ore, 40 gold)
'Captain Smitus' the Human Paladin(Trained) went down to the cellars and consumed meat (-1 meat, +1 morale)
'Sgt. Fisto' the Human Paladin went down to the cellars and consumed crops (-1 crops, +1 morale)
'Shivros' the Human Paladin(Trained) went down to the cellars and consumed crops (-1 crops, +1 morale)
'Occam' the Human Paladin(Trained) went down to the cellars and consumed crops (-1 crops, +1 morale)
'Captain Smitus' the Human Paladin(Trained) has recovered 2 points of health.
Captain Smitus talked with Shivros about politics, they have found out they both share similliar opinions and views about the current events.
Captain Smitus now considers Shivros as a friend.
Shivros now considers Captain Smitus as a friend.
Sgt. Fisto talked with Occam about dreams and ambitions. Occam thought Sgt. Fisto's dreams are extremely stupid.
Sgt. Fisto now considers Occam as a rival.
Occam now considers Sgt. Fisto as a rival.
Shivros and Sgt. Fisto spent their entire day inside the guild just talking and enjoying each other's company(+1 morale to both).
Occam and Captain Smitus spent a nice day together travelling just outside the city walls.
Occam now considers Captain Smitus as a friend.
Captain Smitus now considers Occam as a friend.
Stats: http://pastebin.com/gje4yUU0
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ae6b30 No.22910
>>22901
BRAUMELHALL BREWERY
Political status: Steward
Guild type: Dwarven Brewery
Alliances:
Fame: 7
Influence: 8
Gold: 470
Resources: 4 Ore, 0 Meat, 0 Crops.
Might: 0
Members: 4/8
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Owned property:
*10 Territories
*3 Neighborhoods
*Guild Hall
*Tavern
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http://pastebin.com/TVJTPHCD
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I want to make my actions in the following order:
-Heimr and Bramheild will gather crops.
-Groerl will go to the market to buy all the meat he can.
-We'll use our position as stewards to start a meat festival
-Geurmmand will make beer for the meat festival, following this rules:
>The beer won't be selled nor drinked by the Guild Members. It will be given for free as a courtesy of the Braumelhal Brewery
>Leave at least 5 crops in the resource pile. If there are less than 5 crops, don't make beer at all.
>Heimr Braumelhall Varnleysson
>Guild Master
-Lead party to gather crops
Finally! I can't wait to start brewing again!
>Groerl Braumelhall Freimkrsson
>Courtier
-Go to the market and buy all the meat he can
Now that the market is opened, we should use it to resupply.
>Bramheild Greinherr Krerimdottar
>Capitain
-Join Heimr Braumelhall's party
Gathering crops is not exciting at all, but it must be done
>Geurmmand Maellers Olfrindsson
>Member
-Brew beer following the guidelines described avobe
If Heimr manages to bring enough crops, we may be able to distribute some beer for free. The peasants will surely like that.
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ae6b30 No.22951
>>22872
So, was looking at some stats and seems like your influence should be 27, it says 27 on my work table so i think i just forgot to update your stats last turn on the pastebin :c It'll be updated now tho
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> this is funny to me since you say the guild leader can't lead the work party
Did I say that :o? I think i said members can't lead the work party. Guild leader can lead almost anything
Hochmeisterin Theressa Vald is dividing out roles to the party, some are herding while others are butchering.
Hochmeisterin Theressa Vald slaughtered 2 meat.
Adrian Hunt slaughtered 0 meat.
Gertrud Stonehand slaughtered 0 meat.
Hochmeisterin Theressa Vald pushed Adrian Hunt for standing idle in the way. They soon started shouting at each other until it almost led into a fight (-1 morale to both)
Adrian Hunt spent his resting time counting the remaining cattle.
Hochmeisterin Theressa Vald was running around and accidently scared one of the cows Gertrud Stonehand was herding. Gertrud Stonehand had to spend alot of time and energy bringing that cow back (-1 morale to Gertrud Stonehand)
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The party has returned home, bringing a total loot of 0 gold, 0 ore, 6 meat and 0 crops.
> [Resource Tax laws = High resource tax]
The city has taxed a total amount of 0 ore, 3 meat and 0 crops.
– Aftermath –
You have gained 2 points of might for being a religious guild.
You have recieved 3 might from the casters in your guild
your influence has increased by 10 points(the amount of your fame)
You gained additional 1 fame for being the lawkeepers guild
You find it hard to maintain high fame, the guild lost 1 points of fame
'Hochmeisterin Theressa Vald' the Human Paladin went down to the cellars and consumed crops (-1 crops, +1 morale)
'Sindarel' the Elven Paladin went down to the cellars and consumed crops (-1 crops, +1 morale)
'Adrian Hunt' the Human Wizard went down to the cellars to get crops, and was deeply dissapointed to find none! (-2 morale)
'Gertrud Stonehand' the Dwarven Ranger went down to the cellars and consumed meat (-1 meat, +1 morale)
'Gertrud Stonehand' the Dwarven Ranger went down to the cellars and consumed meat (-1 meat, +1 morale)
Hochmeisterin Theressa Vald and Sindarel had to split the guild's house chores between them and couldn't agree on anything.
Hochmeisterin Theressa Vald now considers Sindarel as a rival.
Sindarel now considers Hochmeisterin Theressa Vald as a rival.
Sindarel told an ancient elven story to everyone by the fireplace.
Gertrud Stonehand was trying new beard style ararngements.
Stats: http://pastebin.com/xJ8fnRPa
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ae6b30 No.22952
Silverfitter rubbed the gunk out of his eyes as he headed out into the woods, cursing at the long walk in between the guild home and the closest point of civilization; luckily, it seemed no monster, or even animal for the matter wanted to live in these particular woods, so the only thing it meant for the wizard in hiding was a long slog, his shoes stepping over leaves and branches and dirt and other foul things that he wished he best not threaded upon especially after having Mortimer shine them for him; he really was hard on the boy, but he needed to be in order to keep his head on straight, he felt, especially to keep him away from that muscle-headed guard that he's been looking for an excuse to despose of: Elie noticed that Bruce had started…interacting with his employees/apprentices, and it would be little good when the time came for the reason they were sent here that they decided to abandon him over it; his master would be most displeased.
He dismissed the thought as he was finally out into the clearing, a set of cottages up ahead. Elie Silverfitter smiled as he walked up to the front door of one of the buildings, knocking on it lightly…
1.) Elie Silverfitter claims the two unclaimed buroughs as well as downward vacant tiles. (-10 Influence)
2.) Azucena Briallen is sent to the market to buy 16 ore; she is encouraged to use her charm to try and haggle it down, though not pursue if the merchants aren't buying it; she's just a merchant girl, after all! (-384 gold?)
3.) Mortimer and Bruce are sent to the fields for harvest now that they've finally been cleared; In fact, when Silverfitter recruited the latter, he was quite sure he was a farmer…how good a farmer was debatable considering his occupation of "homeless drunk" by the time he found him.
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ae6b30 No.22953
>>22951
> It was more that, I said I wanted the Hochmeisterin to lead the work party, to which you said they couldn't that only guild leaders/work managers could, but the fact that the Hochmeiterin was the guild leader was what was funny to me.
Actions this turn,
1.Promote Adrian to Priest
2. Hocmeisterin Theressa Vald will go to recruit 'Wixa Diggle' the Halfling Paladin
3.4. Sindarel and Gertrud shall begin training their purge skills, separately from one another
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ae6b30 No.22955
Welp, I had an electricity break while running the simulation, it has crashed and all saved data of the current game has been corrupted.
I need a couple days to re-create (because there is no loading, i got bunch of gibberish where there should have been database) the current game.
And, I could also use a few more days to fix the bugs I have encountered and imbalances (I can finally adjust the threat spawn without fearing anything bad will happen to the game).
If you have any comment about what you think i should change in the game or methods I should add please comment! Because now I have a few days to do just that. Hope to see you all still here and back in action after I fix the code.
List of bugs I should fix
– Manual description doesn't work
– Sometimes the program refers to member as Character@ID instead of outputting their name.
List of things I should add
– More variation in what members are doing in aftermath.
– Program should show more log about how it makes calculations to player
– A method for guilds to cooperate when doing quests
– New and better threat spawn with balance scaling according to the amount of players actually making an action instead of existing players.
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Please add you own ideas for new features and bugs you might have noticed.
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ae6b30 No.22959
>>22955
so are we just flat out rebooting?
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ae6b30 No.22973
>>22959
I can continue from the same point we are at now.
It would be easier for me to re-boot, but I imagine you'd like to continue from this point. It'll take me some time to recreate all the data tho.
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ae6b30 No.22976
>>22973
if we'd gotten waaaaaaaaaaaay further.
Also just an idea.
Why not set it up so that you can adjust difficulty based on the number of guilds that TAKE action on the previous turn? That way it doesn't matter who is active or inactive?
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ae6b30 No.22984
>>22955
wait there was a program doing this the whole time? Huh didn't know that…. Also maybe some stuff for the Lawkeepers to do besides just changing the law? Like I dunno, the ability to attack those who have broken it? or the ability to blockade a guild that they suspect is about to try something or something other than just changing the laws around.
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ae6b30 No.22985
>>22973
also I'm fine with a reboot
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ae6b30 No.23004
>>22973
I would probably suggest a reboot as we all understand the system more now.
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ae6b30 No.23007
>>22973
>>22985
>>23004
If we're going full reboot then we need some other changes
1) We need SOMETHING constructive for unlead people to do. Even if it's just a way less effective method of gathering resources.
2) Enemies should spread out their damage a bit more, they alway s focused on one person at a time, and if they focused on your weaklings first tough shit. So instead there should be the ability for tanks to 'take' the damage, as a skill. Even if their personality isn't suited for it, they should do so because it's their JOB and they know they'll die if they don't (only cowards are exempt).
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ae6b30 No.23016
>>23007
ability to train their skills? or boost self morale?
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ae6b30 No.23017
>>23007
Solo actions for characters could be nice. Like setting someone to cook a meal or do chores for bonus morale.
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ae6b30 No.23018
>>23016
I think giving them a day off should ALWAYS give them a fairly significant moral boost.
As you said before Bidderlyn, moral loss can be a SIGNIFICANT slippery slope, with little to no way to pull out of it. Tantrum spirals seem to be a legitimate worry, and unlike in dwarf fortress, out only method of controlling it is depending on the people making friends with their team mates.
Other thing. Higher chance for your starting quartet of becoming friends rather than rivals. And people working together should be more likely to become friends unless they have significant crit fails. You learn to like the people you work with.
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ae6b30 No.23019
I agree with your suggestions (mostly, ill get more in-depth about it later) and have a few other ideas to add in mind.
Woul you like to see tech-tree in game? I thought about it asa good idea since i got nothing intelligence gives except skills (all other attributes are also good for certain labor) and from now on intelligence could be the base stat for tech development.
If I do it, it's naturally going to take a few days. But I think it might add a cool layer to the game - or do you think the game has enough layers as is?
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ae6b30 No.23021
>>23019
>Woul you like to see tech-tree in game? I thought about it asa good idea since i got nothing intelligence gives except skills (all other attributes are also good for certain labor) and from now on intelligence could be the base stat for tech development.
Hmmm… I'm tempted to say 'yes' but honestly?
I think it'd be a bad idea until we get the basic function game tested and can offer suggestions as to what those techs should be.
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ae6b30 No.23024
So are we full rebooting?
Also full suggestioin list
>Something for people to do constructively while not on a job (moral increase? self training if at full moral?)
>Enemies on combat missions should spread out their damage a bit more, and there should be specific tanky type jobs that will try to take damage for their friends simply because it's their job to do so, bodyguards can be evil fucks and they'll still throw themselves in harmsway. Basically Fighters should always try to take the blow for someone weaker then them perhaps? Cowards are exempt from this.
>The difficulty spawning of a turn should be determined by the number of guilds to take action in the previous turn
OR
>player guilds who don't take actions should have a random set of actions applied to them that somewhat make sense. Try to get food first, then try to reduce threats starting with internal threats, then opening up food resources, then mountain as the last kind.
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ae6b30 No.23093
>>23024
Im currently working on this list of suggestions, and adding a few more stuff of my own.
Also - is everyone ok about the re-boot? Only 3 players spoke their mind.
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ae6b30 No.23096
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ae6b30 No.23104
>>23093
Go for it. I'll keep my guild.
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ae6b30 No.23470
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ae6b30 No.23878
Just an update:
No im not dead. XCOM 2 stole me away for a week or so, but im fully back in action.
Infact im now making more content than ever, I have taken the task to make a tech-tree for the game and its currently looking very promising. There are several more additions which I won't get into depth with so the game should feel fresh enough :^)
Just keep in mind that this game exists and that i'd love to have everyone here to join it when its rebooted. There's what to expect. Hope to see ya then.
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ae6b30 No.23883
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ae6b30 No.24050
Idea: illegal operations
These are marked on any tile, including operations. They require no upkeep, and only the owner knows what they are. Cults might give might, bourdelors give influence, gambling dens give wealth, and so on.
They can be targeted for attack, and an attack always disrupts them, removing them from the map. If unsuccessful, no legal repercussions, if successful, the owning guild is punished as per the laws.
There is one acception. Ambushes. Ambushes never give resources, but if attacked, the defender gets several free attacks before the battle even begins, the attacker only defends, unable to do damage for those rounds.
Ambushes never cause legal troubles, even if the defender loses. Further, defenders may trigger ambushes if the ambush is placed on a tile being targeted for attack, theft, or sabatoge (and they find out about it) or adjacent to said targeted tile.
Illegal operations require no upkeep, and are easy to disrupt. But constantly replacing them can get expensive, and non-shadowy organizations can have trouble maintaining them. Depending on events, some types of illegal operations (cults for example) will automatically mark the owning guild as traitor to the city, superceding all guild based protections if an attack successfully targets such an operation.
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ae6b30 No.24051
>>24050
Sorry, can be placed on any tile including neighborhoods
Also idea:
Wards. Can be placed on a tile to render it immune to offensive magic. Or increase the cost of might to cast spells against the territory. Each ward can increase might costs by 5. Wards cannot be placed on a tile that also has walls.
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ae6b30 No.24197
>>24050
I remember we talked about that, an I haven't forgotten :)
I wonder if "they can removed by being attacked" is a godo idea, since attack is a very big thing, and i doubt people will attack each other just to disrupt illegal operations. Maybe there is a more subtle way to implement the "attack" method.(maybe limited amount of member can attend and the chance for the battle to be deadly is lesser? I need to find a way for it to atleast make sense)
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Anyway,
Im going to make this possible via a branch in the tech tree (so you must acquire the knowledge of "how to make a secret operation" before doing such). I might even expand it to a few follow-up techs which improve it, since i really like the idea. Cheers for adding your thoughts, it really drives me to continue working
>>24051
Also a fine idea, ill have to find the right tweaks and balance but it sounds like a reasonable thing to achieve through the magical-defensive branch of the tech tree. Also, there are no offensive spells currently that affect certain area, so unless the spell protects all guild members by influencing a guild-hall tile it seems ill have to find some other way to make it work (or maybe adjust spells so they'll be more area-based)
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ae6b30 No.24211
>>24197
Well the idea is that -any- attack will disrupt the operation.
Illegal Operations are POWERFUL!
A gambling den might provide even just HALF the income of an inn, but has NO upkeep at all. That's a major temptation. But a criminal guild might just eat the cost since they're not going to be spanked with legal repercussions. Other guilds might not either provided that the laws on such things are lax enough.
The deterent is you have no idea if you're hitting an ambush or not. Imagine going into a battle and you can't retaliate for the FIRST three-five rounds. There's a VERY good chance that you will be slaughtered in that battle unless you send overwhelming odds.
Are you willing to bet on the illegal operation not being an ambush? There's no advantage to disrupting an ambush, even if you 'win' it won't trigger an illegal event.
See? Illegal Operations are high risk, high reward, for both sides. They bypass the need for upkeep, they give immediate resource returns by methods normally not possible to gain, and they have a trap card mixed in. You could even have various other kinds of trap illegal operations. A 'sting' or 'frame job' for example would cause the attacker to be framed for a crime instead of the person who owned the illegal operation. You have to carefully consider who you are attacking and how. And the ease of disruption counter balances the fact that they'd have no upkeep and give immediate, sustainable, resources.
As for the wards, yeah, I was gonna suggest having it so that every 'ward' in your territory increases might costs of spells cast against you by 5-10, or increases the number of necessary casters by 1, rather than making your territory immune.
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ae6b30 No.24212
>>24211
also a way to balance out ambushes and frame jobs would be that you can only have one 'trap' illegal operation for ever 3 actual illegal operations you have. It's the only way to get dirt on enough non-guild members in the area to make sure they're in on it and won't turn you in.
That way 'law abiding' guilds can't just turn their entire zone into a trap filled fuck-fest.
Probably should also be some stat like intelligence that lets you not trigger an ambush or a frame job.
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ae6b30 No.24213
>>22951
>>24212
Another suggestion would be that given that each of your guild types has 2 words in the name, and each guild type provides 2 effects (active and passive)
You should have that be the way it works. You pick two terms for a guild's type, and combine them, and that gives you your active and passive.
Shadowy Society for example;
Shadowy: Can shut down watchtowers
Society: Immune to punishments for crimes.
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ae6b30 No.24214
>>24213
Oh! Final suggestion.
A clear picture of what threats are where on the map: >>22557
along with the depiction of what resources are where in a clear manner.
And I think the ability for the Sentinels should definitely be focused around increasing safety and to allow business to proceed as usual, perhaps even grabbing people from the barracks as a militia for impromptu missions, or declaring certain missions to be 'group' missions where people can contribute together.
Finally, as we discussed here: >>22701
Adjust your enemy spawn rates. Remember, the way you have this game set up, LARGE NUMBERS of enemies are HARDER to deal with than HIGH LEVELS of enemies. High levels for enemies are -impossible- to deal with for guilds without incredible amounts of luck. None of our guilds could even -touch- a high level opponent.
Likewise, for fights, the AI should switch up targets, and the paladin and warrior classes should deliberately try to take hits for other squishier classes whenever they can unless they have the [Coward] trait, even if they are evil. Now if they're [Evil] and have a [Rival] that's being attacked, they won't defend the rival, but they'll otherwise defend people because they're motivated by self interest and not COMPLETE blithering idiots who don't understand that when fighting, you watch out for your allies so that they'll help you fight the guys trying to kill you.
Likewise, a [Coward] should overcome their [Cowardice] and try to defend a friend if they are of the paladin or warrior classes. And anybody should try to take a hit for a [Friend] if their own HP isn't lower.
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ae6b30 No.24215
>>24214
Oh, sorry, FINAL final suggestions.
You know how Settlers of Catan has 'trade' spaces? And they're not actually on the map?
We should have those on the port side, and 'gates' on the other side, always adjacent to at least two hexes. Controlling them will give you benefits. Like controlling a gate would give you a steady income of the resources related to that gate, where as controlling a port/dock would give you a constant steady stream of wealth.
So:
West: The Docks, give +1 Wealth a turn for every hex adjacent to them you control. Give +1 Wealth for every 'trade' action taken on the map as well if you control all ports.
North: The Meadow Gates, give +1 Meat a turn for every hex adjacent to a meadow gate you control. Gives +1 Meat for every meat harvesting action taken that turn, and +1 wealth for every mission taken to the north. Those last two only proc if you control all northern gates
East: The Field Gates, give +1 Crops for every hex you control adjacent to a field gate. Gives +1 crops for every crop harvesting mission taken, and +1 wealth for every eastern mission taken. Those last two only proc if you control all eastern gates
South: The Mine Gates, give +1 ore for every hex you control adjacent to a mine gate you control. Give +1 Ore for every mining action taken that turn. Give +1 Wealth for every southern mission taken. Those last two only proc if you control all southern gates
Basically controlling the gates lets you control the TOLLS.
The Gates to the North, South, and East give both resources AND wealth because, in actuality, those types of actions are far less likely to be taken than trade actions.
Trade actions occur incredibly often. Whenever somebody sells or buys something at market, or trades between guilds, is a trade action, and would proc most often out of every possible action in the game really.
You could also make them specific tiles. 3 to a side. Like the city buildings and such that can't be built.
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ae6b30 No.25277
>>24215
>>24214
Answered you most of those on #Nation. If there is anything more you want me to answer just ask for it (I know i still haven't replied on everything and I don't mind elaborating more so everyone could see)
Anyhow just dropping the tech tree. Took far longer than you can imagine to make this thing, putting these mechanics into code is nightmerish but the result is always worth the while.
This is just the first preview of the tech tree and it may change.
New attribute called "research" is now added to the game, you will receive attribute according to the total amount of int your guild has each turn. (more ways such as building libraries exist to father boost research score)
Cheers for all of you who are still following, hope you'll all see how the wait was worth it in the end.
I assure you I'm fully spending nearly my entire free time developing this game.
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ae6b30 No.26554
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ae6b30 No.28371
>>26554
(If i told you i just saw that?)
Yeah, I have worked each day since we stopped. At first i thought just adding a few things will be enough but since then I found more and more foundations that I'd wish i changed so I am going for a complete overhaul of the game. The work goes on. The game will be back and its gonna be much better (I hope)
I am 100% pumped to bring back the game, hope you will be here when it gets back.
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