No.324
I cannot wait for you bitches to validate their points and make yourselves look like arses.
(USER WAS SENT TO HELHEIM FOR THIS POST)User has been returned to Midgard.This is now the
Opposing Views Thread.
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No.339
Unban this guy it would have been fun to see how this thread would have gone. You need dissent to fuel posting.
No.343
>>339I would have imagined that a smaller dedicated group of quality posters is better than having a large quantity of trolls.
Maybe I'm wrong.
No.344
Does this poster deserve sparing from the rope/bog?
No.345
>>343You've got one dissenter so far. At least allow them one thread to express opposition. The equivalent of Stormfront's Opposing Views section or the current Fedora Tipper thread on /fringe/.
>>344A little tolerance should be exercised until circumstances push us to vanquish them.
No.346
>>345This is another of OP's posts:
>>221Maybe I will allow an opposing views thread, but I just can't imagine the trolls would stay in the thread.
No.348
>>346Give them temporary bans for going outside of the opposing views thread.
No.349
No.350
>>349>>348Reminds me of the concentration camp board in IronMarch. Every dissenter/marxist troll has a prisoner tag under his username and won't be allowed to post outside of his own prison cell thread. Maybe we could have something similar to this on here, wud b laff.
No.381
But Odin was not a protector of the weak, he was the warrior king who showed no mercy to his enemies
>The more I learn about heathens against hate the more obvious it is they know nothing of our lore and are probably Jews/SJW's trying to promote factionalism to divide us
No.388
>>324dont get your facts about norse mythology from marvel op
No.443
Let's talk about racism in asatru
I for one believe that asatru, by definition, is racist. Which is ok by me.
No.452
>>443People who say its not supported by the lore obviously havent read the lore
You really think the vikings were running around shouting TOLERANCE, EQUALITY!!!!
Ha-ha fuck no you stupid Marvel tumblr Heathen, Heimdall created the races of man with blond blue eyed warrior kings at the top and swarthy slaves at the bottom
>Bu-but Heimdall is black! No.464
>>343The fact that you're stupid enough to label anyone who disagrees with your opinion a troll, and then have the audacity to talk about "quality posters" is cute and sad at the same time. If this is how this board operates, I won't be posting here again.
No.472
>>443Please define "racist" first
No.476
>>472Webster's dictionary definition
No.499
>>476Just post it so we're all on the same page here.
No.501
>>499The poor treatment, or violence against a person because of their race
No.506
Asatru holds that our folk must sustain itself no matter what. There's no "racism" to be found in that.
If anything then we're the ones being subject to racist anti-white abuse from anti-whites, cultural bolshevists, crypto-communists in the media, public institutions and so on.
No.523
Hey fags, I just dropped in from /pol/, and I gotta ask you a question: What's the point of all this shit?
It seems like there's nothing to this Hethanism stuff. Christians and Mudslimes both accomplish stuff in modern ways- what the fuck does Odin motivate people to do? Listen to Norse-themed music?
If you assholes want anyone to take you seriously, fucking do shit beyond having an attraction to an aesthetic style.
No.525
>>506>Asatru holds that our folk must sustain itself no matter what.Where does it say that? Where did you get that rule from? I can tell you something that asatru actually teaches: not bowing before someone. That's why you don't worship the gods, but respect them and bring them sacrifices. So I don't get how this fucking nazi scum is everywhere in asatru.
No.527
>>525>Where does it say that?In the minds of people who practice Asatru.
>Where did you get that rule from?We don't have a rule book. The people decide what is just or not just, in the interests of the folk.
How does desiring the preservation of one's unique culture, identity, heritage, and life given right to self determination; equate to
fucking nazi scum?
Are Africans or Tibetans
fucking nazi scum for defending their sovereignty and culture?
Stop the Hate, Separate. No.528
>>527>In the minds of people who practice Asatru.Not in mine.
>We don't have a rule bookYeah, that's what I was getting at. So do you just make the statement:
>Asatru holds that our folk must sustain itself no matter what.Asatru does not hold that. Your way of living does. But that's not what you said, you were talking about asatru in general and now you are damage controlling.
>How does desiring the preservation of one's unique culture, identity, heritage, and life given right to self determination; equate to fucking nazi scum?Oh geez, mhm, I don't know. Maybe you shouldn't have posted a pic of old uncle Adolf with that post.
>Are Africans or Tibetans fucking nazi scum for defending their sovereignty and culture?I have never seen a nigger claim that there is an ongoing anti-black holocaust.
No.530
>>528>Not in mine.Going against the interests of the folk is irrational. You would be pressed down under a wicker hurdle into the slimy mud of a bog for betraying the tribe back in the old days.
>damage controlI'm not the same poster. I don't see any contradictions in my post.
I can't see why you seem to hate Adolf Hitler so much. He was a great man. He saved his people from poverty, eliminated unemployment, instilled pride and honor onto them, and made Germany an economic powerhouse in just a few years. He probably would have made Heathenry the main religion if his nation wasn't invaded and destroyed by communist and capitalist controlled empires.
>niggerThat's racist. Why you are being so hateful towards other groups?
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No.533
>>530How do you edit posts?
No.534
>>530>Going against the interests of the folk is irrationalWe just have different views and what is benefitial for our folk. I think that a folk is a group of individuals that should be allowed to make their own decisions. Only in that way they can grow stronger and wiser, which in turn makes the folk stronger. You say it should be prohibited for people in the folk to live nad reproduce with people of other folk because of middle-aged, proven to be wrong biological views.
>betraying the tribe Living with people of other tribes was no betrayal. In fact, germaninians were very hospitable to romans when they first arrived and there are coundless reports on vikings from scandinavia taking people from other parts of the world with them home to learn from each other (i.e. Ahmad Ibn Fadlān, a fucking muslim).
>I can't see why you seem to hate Adolf Hitler so much.Well, I'm happy to fucking tell you.
> He saved his people from poverty, eliminated unemployment,That were caused by a world war that he restarted later on. He did eliminate unemployment however by getting paid and taking loans from England and the USA, as well as nationalising private property of communists, jews, social democrats and generally people who were crirticising him.
>instilled pride and honor onto themYou know that one of the biggest problems with germans being proud of their culture is the time between 1933 and 1945? We can't even celebrate winning the soccer wolrd championship without france criticising us for nationalism because of thte barbaric murders that were carried out by our state at that time.
> Germany an economic powerhouseYeah, see above and tell that to the Moorsoldaten. Also, that's pretty easy when you are cruel enough. Stalin achieved the same.
>made Heathenry the main religionHe was catholic and had strong believe in being choosen by the christian god fo lead the germans. Practicing heathenary even became forbidden in 1936 after being allowed in the Weimar Republic. That's also why "God with us!" was the slogan of the Wehrmacht.
>his nation wasn't invaded and destroyedHitler started the war by invading Poland. The communists you are criticising were even helping. He then attacked France and after that Norway.
Also, Hitler build up a police state, made 100 really bad decisions that in the end led to him losing the war, and carried out a holocaust. And you know the greatest thing abou Hitler? As the russians entered Berlin and the war was lost, he sent children without weapons to fight. He ordered the Wehrmacht to destroy as much german infrastructure as possible and he said that if Germany looses this war, the germans have no right to exist anymore because they have proofen to be weak twice. He said the german race should either win this war or be completely destroyed. That's right. Hitler wanted the german race to die. And now do me a favor do what your Führer told you. You are even following him even more by being a hero because he also rather killed himself then facing the consequences of the mass murder he started like the coward he was.
No.535
>>533>How do you edit posts?Techno Viking Magic.
You gotta be a board volunteer. No.539
>>536Nice argument there and thanks for proving me right.
No.566
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>>539Yeah yeah whatever guy
Just don't take your nonsensical ramblings out of this thread, mkay
No.573
>>566So if you oppose my viewpoint, tell me why and defend yours! Unless of course you got no arguments and don't want to be confronted with the fact the Hitler was crazy and NATSOC was one of the worts things ever happen to any country.
No.578
>>574It's funny how you are still avoiding to answer.
No.579
>>443In your opinion Asatru is racist, you're just saying that because it's White. Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-White.
No.827
Can someone explain this to me?
No.829
>>827The difference is that Africans still live like this.
Also, the Nordic civilization is clearly more organized. The African is just a bunch of huts in no specific layout.
Not to mention that in the Nordic structures is rich culture, mythology, and legendary warriors.
In the African structures, you only find "Ooga booga where da white wimmin at?"
No.831
>>827The argument is a strawman. I've never heard of anyone calling for a return to viking era architecture.
No.834
>>829>legendary warriorsWhat is the Zulu?
No.845
>>834A tribe that was given Roman military reform by a Frenchman.
No.990
>>443Lol, there's no such thing as rayciss. It's a Trotsky USSR Commie Jew term.
>>452Eekwalitee is the antithesis of what it means to be White.
No.991
>>827I can explain this. You are a moronic anti-white who doesn't understand the difference of a few thousand years and is simply desperate to try to delegitimize anything White.
Go directly to Nibelheim, anti-white.
No.999
>>534>also why "God with us!" was the slogan of the WehrmachtIt was a slogan long before that, starting with the Roman Empire, over to the Teutonic Order, Prussia, The Kaiserreich and finally Nazi-Germany. I'd rather say they kept that motto because most of the soldiers were Christians and changing it might made a lot of people mad about it.
>He then attacked France and after that Norway.Why can't I hold all this revisionism? Sure thing, Hitler was a cunt in many ways, but the escalation of the war itself is not only to be blamed on him.
First off all, it was still France and Britain who declared war on Germany and not the other way around. It just happened France lost badly. Norway would have been invaded by Britain, Germany just happened to show up first.
Then we of course have the Soviet Union, but I don't want to go too deep into this as it's off topic, so I suggest dropping it here.
No.1074
>being nostalgic over petty barbarism
>thinking that reconstructionism based on scarce and obscure historical record is religious revival
>hating Christianity even though notorious germanic subhumans ascended to masterrace thanks to it
>basically just Metal posery and alternative wiccan landwhales
Wow… this board has more edges than a teuton armory.
No.1076
>>1074>thinking romans were anything but little boy loving imperialists >implying the pedophilia of the catholic church isnt because of romans >implying you indolent weaklings were worthy to inherit europe>implying our petty barbarism wasnt spiritually wise and fulfilling No.1079
>>1074>supporting a jewish religion that brought massive amounts of strife and internal division to Europe No.1080
>>1079>succesful united defence against kebabification>organizing the Crusades>succesful united defence against kebabification again>dividingPlease tell of a single instance when tribal barbarians were united for a common cause? You blonde ueeers would be completely mongolized by Attila before you discovered writing if it wasn't for the christianized Roman Empire.
No.1081
>>829>The difference is that Africans still live like this.Because Romans and Greeks did not culturally expand South of Sahara.
No.1082
>>1080>Hermann the German faggot The crusades first went North and East, slaying Slavs and Balts who were still pagans. The Protestant Reformation has caused such a division in Christianity we would probably all have more in common if we were still pagan, and long before the Reformation there were many Christian subsects that were wiped out by the Catholic Church.
No.1137
>>1118Yes, but Aesir and Giants are both white.
I'm sure you could other cultures where their pantheons have similar traits, yet they would be hostile to outsides.
No.1142
>>1137So Thor is mixed race? I got banned for that post by the way.
No.1146
>>1142That part im not so sure about, hes the son of Odin and Jord, the Earth Mother, and its been theorized that she is Vanir or Jotun, but theres no actual evidence to that.
Its also ignoring that the point of that is more that Thor is a connection between the Heavens and the Earth; a mixture of the Wind-God Odin and the Earth Goddess Jord, which creates storm and rain to feed the earth.
>BUT T-THOR IS A MIXED RACE BABY These are the sample people that think Odin liked watching Frigga fuck niggers so its actually an ancient part of our culture
Nothing but kikes and liberals trying to infiltrate the last vestige of white culture, dont let them have an inch.
No.1152
>>1142Also, saying Loki was a different race and was still accepted is sort of ridiculous, considering that Loki ended up being a tremendous faggot and got what he deserved
>just like the Jews will No.1192
So, what am I supposed to do when I believe that traditional politheism is correct, with many gods for many peoples?
I do not feel connected to Norse gods, as a southern european, they seem to be tied to the savagery of roman-era Germanic peoples, they never did anything for me.
I do not know the native Gods of my people, so what should I do? It seems that Romans also brought prosperity into these lands, so maybe their gods protect us as well?
No.1194
>>1192And might I add, I decided to post here because many of the links said that heathenry was for all europeans, so I tought you might have some usefull information about this.
It's sad that the only people responding to my original thread were a bunch of sad skinheads, saying that I hate white people just because I believe that Romans actually advanced our ways of life, something Visigoths failed to do.
I still haven't lost hope, so if anyone has any book recomendations or any useful information, I'm here, and I'd appreciate that.
No.1202
>>1080>implying magyars didn't already have a phonetic runic alphabet dating back to pre-roman times>implying Attila wasn't the hero europa needed to end the roman descent into degeneracy>implying centuries later you don't still have the magyars in sekely-land to thank for keeping the turks out of europe
>Please tell of a single instance when tribal barbarians were united for a common causeHow's against rome for a common cause?
ősmagyar vallás here, don't listen to this spaghetti nigger's lies, my northern cousins. If you ever want to visit the carpathians, you're more than welcome.
No.1322
heh
No.1340
The age of Sól is coming. While you pathetic racists and bigots whine about jews and "cultural marxism" - as if that was real and not wishful fullfillment on your part - and try to justify it with 19th century bullshit instead of actual norse tradition, the Sun's influence spreads through the earth, enlightening mankind while you wither about in the darkness.
Sun goddess rules, Odin drools.
No.1349
>>1340The sun will die at Ragnarok.
:^)
No.1351
>>1340>>1349Also, we already have our own sun goddess, we don't need yours thanks.
No.1354
>>1340Not to mention lol at your New Age Sewage.
No.1356
>>1351Sól is another name for Sunna. The guy you are replying to, is an
anti-racist Asatruar.
No.1362
>>1340You sound like a 40 year old hippie catlady
go back to worshiping oprah, the sun goddess doesnt want your degeneracy here
No.1363
>>1351I like your hair, sunna. It reminds me to some symbols.
No.1364
>>1356Anti-racist in the sense he doesn't have any quarrel with other races or cultures, or that he's a self hating white?
No.1531
What exactly makes a stone age religion preferable to a bronze or iron age religion?
No.1532
>>1531I doubt we know much about any stone age religions in the first place, given how little we know of iron age religions
No.1608
To the person who made the OP pic.
Why should I not call "men" liek the ones in pic related ergi? Or any modern variation such as mangina or pussy?
No.1667
>>1192>>1194My mother's side is Portuguese and I've had the same thoughts, but ultimately the Germanic side proves stronger in me and I'm drawn to that. Since Iberia was completely romanised, if you want an alternative to christianity, I'd say for you to look into Roman paganism, but unfortunately I can't point you to any specific information as I don't know much about it.
No.1694
Fools! You have been deceived by Odin's vile treachery!
Can you not see that now Lord Surt walks the path of justice?
Your Lord Odin is nothing btu a master of trickery and deceit!
Hail Surt, Loki, and Thrym! Lords of change and chaos! Come and destroy the Nine Worlds! Free us fro mthe shackles of life and existence! Exterminate the foolish Aesir and Vanir! And all their servants among men, elf, and dwarf kind alike!
Awaken my dark lords of chaos!
The time of giants and dark elves will come! Let other men on Midgard know of our liberator's coming!
Follow the path of Jotatru today.
No.1767
>>525Anti-whites always talk about two things:
1) How they're not anti-white.
2) How White people are evil and deserve to die.
Frankly, anti-whites should swing from a rope for their shit. They are responsible for the deaths of millions of our brothers and sisters.
No.1768
>>1694Lol, you're high
>>1340Lol, you're a retard. Sun imagery is White first. "Enlightenment" is light AKA WHITE.
>>1194What? The NS movement is largely based on Rome because no one has exceeded the Roman Empire to this day.
>>1146Yeah, FUCK EM! Damn right. Their goal is our total annihilation. Fuck racemixers and people that excuse this scum!
>>1118Fuck Plebbit. That site is 110% worthless and utter cancer. I can't even believe the shit that regularly gets posted there.
>>1074>Christ Insanity>Ever>>990Deep and good shit, brother.
>>834Perhaps one of us should flatten Zulu land. By ourselves. :P
>>573Hitler was right. That's why degenerates hate him.
>>534It's called learning. Race mixing is obviously going to kill our people if it continues, and people that support that are not one of us. They need to be booted out of White lands and kept away from White people. I am sick of this cancer. It has destroyed many of my family members, even in my immediate family. Race mixing is EVIL.
No.1769
>>1608Kink is one thing.
Publicly bitching about how you feel about your chosen kinks and demanding that everyone kiss your Marxist ass is just retarded.
I am so sick and tired of hearing this mangina strapon horseshit, seriously. Grow the fuck up and act like a man, and if you want to be into that sort of thing, at least people shouldn't be able to tell IN PUBLIC.
>Seriously, fuck that guy. No.3637
>>1667is your mom a die-hard Catholic? if so, I'd like to know how she took it when you became pagan
No.3642
>>3637I haven't told her but I don't really need to unless it comes up. To answer you r question, my mom was raised Catholic, but she's not die hard. My dad came from a non Catholic upbringing that wasn't die hard either. My parents decided to not raise myself or my brother with religion as an integral part of life, so my conversion to paganism wouldn't be much of a cause for strife.
No.3647
>>3642yeah, haven't told mine either, she doesn't seem very devout but I still think she'd stir up some storm so I'm choosing not to say anything until it comes up
No.3692
>yfw Christianity won over rome
>yfw people ignored and leaved the pagan temple
stay mad , Christian master race
No.3700
>>1074deus veult
this board might be satire. i hope so
No.3702
>>3700>>3692>>3692pagans trying to make us Christians look dumb. Please Die heretics
No.3707
>>3702>>3692>>3700>can't into latin>can't into englishyou're pretty pathetic
I just hope this is a troll or a nigger
No.3721
>mfw this entire board
No.3732
>>3692Actually Christians commited massive genocides against their own people to "win over" while being sponsered by Alexandrian Jew money and promising to make slave equal to everyone, evil people free of their doings, and poor people recieved charity.
But soon the promises turned into threats and through the use of twisted pagan myths they begin to threaten their followers with an eternity of torture if they did not come weekly, pay money, and confess all crimes to a Priest who then held power over them.
Nice scam. Sort of like the NSA and International Socialism of today.
It wasn't long before they Christians killed off each other.
After all, Christ-ianity was started by Saul in Antioch who murdered Jesus' followers.
No.3749
No.3863
>>3721>francis the jesuit>popepick one, kikeslave
No.3864
>>3863>kikeslave*tips fedora*
No.4186
How exactly do you heathens get off shitting on Christians for kneeling when Tacitus' Germania tells us that Germanics actually chained themselves up before entering their sacred groves? You can't honestly claim to be following some sort of alphas-only religion wherein you don't humble yourselves for anyone because "fugg yeah vigings :DDD" when information like that has been freely available for all these centuries.
No.4187
>>4186mfw waves of butthurt will be coming, good one anon
No.4189
>>4186thats been discussed on here before, kneeling was a common germanic practice of worship and pagans that say kneeling is only for kike-slaves are edgy idiots
now fuck off and stop shitposting, maybe lurk a little bit
>>4187>samefagging this hard>why did the mods take ID's off this fucking board No.4214
>>4189not samefagging, you're just asshurt
No.4219
>>4189Looks like the judeo-christian trollsperg virgin neckbeard is ban-evading again after his previous autism posting spree has been deleted by the board owner. Let's just wait it out until he gets banned again.
No.4230
No.4285
>>4274>judeo-christian trollsperg virgin neckbeardYeah that's pretty salty.
No.4287
>>4230you're saltier than Lot's wife you Jew worshiping faggot
and I bet you know that Jew myth better than your own lore, dont ya?
No.5693
>>443
Maybe racist is not the word, I mean i cant imagine the Vikings deliberately hating or hurting other groups just for being different. They attacked them for the treasures and to conquer and explore, which seems completely rational form their standpoint.
Maybe not open to foreigners, ethnic-based, or that its nature wasnt predatory, in the sense that i didnt seek to expando to all corners; but not racist, it would be an anachronism, and therefore, an error.
No.5694
>>5693
read rigsthula and get back to me
also the son of Attila and a Germanic princess, Erp, was often called a "brownish bastard" and its implied his mixed heritage earned him the hate of his half brothers, who were fully germanic
take from that what you will
No.5831
>>324
wait wait wait
define racist
is being conscious of my race and not wanting to live around violent races being "racist"
i think the problem of brevity is a lack of clarity
No.5832
Racism to me is when you leave your own country to commit genocide or try to assimilate someone. It is not racist for minorities to not be given equal treatment in a nation they don't belong. If we all just migrate to each others countries we will destroy all races and ethnicities by mixing them together and that would be the worlds largest genocide event. That's if they even mix together in the first place, what will probably happen is a bunch of foreigners not integrating into society but breeding like rabbits and taking over with basically imperialism. Racism is a word used by Cultural Marxists to shut down the genocide of the white race via massive immigration. Sorry if i would rather speak the truth than run in fear of being called a name.
No.5873
/asatru/ why choose pleb tier Germanic paganism? Why not Greco-Roman or even Egyptian? Neopaganism is without strong beliefs on things and has no real ideas of rotuals and is unorganized. To say the least its very wishy washy. You need a Zoroaster to organise it. And norse people didnt achieve bearly as much as romans, Greeks, egyptians, carthaginians and Zoroastrians.
No.5893
>>5873
You can fuck right off with your cointelpro.
No.6354
Fedora here.
Where do you draw the line between metaphor and something literally existing? Most of the Heathens I know irl don't take the religion literally, but see it as a symbolic expression, "creating a living mythology," if you will.
No.6356
>>827
>our ancestors farmed
>they had a system of government and laws
>they had a written language
>they had metalworking
>they built vessels capable of sailing to other continents
there is more to civilization than whether buildings are made from concrete or straw
the thing is african society is devoid of everything that makes civilization what it is
No.6368
Well i believe in reincarnation, Ancestral spirits and Wights (Spirits of nature). I don't think the gods exist though or if they do they are different than the way the myths present them.
No.6370
>>6354
I take my religion pretty literally, I think the myths happened in some form but partly metaphorical and partly truth. I believe there is a divine origin to humanity is the basic point of it. I know the gods are real beings with thoughts but the myths are part true and part myth.
No.6374
>>6354
The gods I see as a combination of natural forces and ancestral spirits. I do however believe we can interact with them through ritual/sacrifice/blot. I mostly pray to my immediate ancestors though because I have a directer line to them. The gods should also be what you strive for and you should take on the qualities in order to achieve certain things. Like pray to Odin, "meditate" on the runes and symbols associated with him, offer blots, and honor him if you want to gain wisdom or knowledge. Tyr for justice, Thor for strength, etc.
No.6956
No.7812
Question: If Thor and Odin are "strong", why did the Vikings get their shit slapped by Christian knights?
I mean, survival of the fittest doesn't seem to be favoring you guys here.
No.7813
>>7812
The same reason Cultural Marxism is currently slapping the shit out of Christianity, and has been for roughly the past century: they were too damn nice.
The greatest Achilles heel of conservatives, whether pagans dealing with Christians, or Christians dealing with Marxists, is the delusion of being able to peacefully coexist with worldviews different and hostile to their own.
Sure they were incidents of bloodshed here and there (Olaf the traitor, etc.) but the sad truth is that 90% of the work was done by Heathens trying to coexist with Christians. When the Christians first started proselytizing, the Heathens worshiped Jesus right along side Thor and Odin until the conversion process was complete. Iceland ultimately caved in because of a trade blockade between it and, by then, the Christianized nations.
Lo and behold, the West is completely under Marxist control thanks to long term appeasement and concessions by Christianity towards the Left. It all poetically comes full circle.
Question: if the Jewish tribal deity Yahweh loves White people so much, why is the Pope and pretty much any denomination of Protestantism that can be thought of, actively encouraging the out of control immigration that threatens to destroy the white race as we know it?
You idiots know damn well how the Jews work; what'd you think was gonna happen if you followed a Jewish god long enough?
I mean, logic and common sense doesn't seem to be favoring you guys here.
Hel, if we should stop being Heathens and start being Christians because we "lost", by your own logic, you might as well stop being a Christian, and start being a Liberal SJW bull-prepping cuck. Your wife isn't gonna fuck herself ya know (especially since you won't be anymore with all the brown migrants she'll have to choose from.)
No.7890
>>7813
Pretty much. this
Hellenic Pagan here, I have realized as some Pagans late in the old Roman Empire realized you can't truly tolerate Christians. You can ally with them and work with them when necessary but when it comes right down to it we need to be wary of them slipping into old habits. Our close circles of friend should be kept pagan when possible, same with our families and under no circumstance allow your children to be Christianized.
Right now ridding Europe of liberals and foreign invaders is the most important thing we can do but after the dust settles us pagans need to ramp up our efforts to increase our numbers and counter any attempts by Christians to seize power over us or stamp us out.
No.7892
>>7890
I couldn't agree more. We can work together when we must, but we must always be midful that they will seek to convert or destroy everything and everyone.
No.7921
>>3721
>>3692
The allies won WW2 which means it's a better future :^) The Christian semitics who lived in mudhuts totally didn't practice the same subversive techniques used by jews while in Ancient Rome which has been admired from it's beginning to today still. Nice cuck leader too fam
No.7924
>>7812
odin grants victory in battle to those he needs to win.
without a unified European society, the caliphate would have entered Europe, defiled its bloodlines and erraticated its religious heritage.
by allowing Europe to become Christian, Odin got a unified defender of European interests, and ensured the preservation of our religion via the high literacy introduced by the church.
No.8882
Do you actually believe 'the gods' exist in reality, or are metaphorical? Is this a religion or philosophy to you?
No.8897
>>8882
Depends what you mean by 'the gods'.
>Within any religion there are levels of understanding. There are undoubtedly Hindus whose piety consists in a lifelong confusion of symbol and referent. In other words, there are undoubtedly Hindus who think that truly believing in Vâyu means believing that there actually is an all-white being who rides a deer and carries a bow and arrows. We tend to assume that such “low level,” or literal-minded understanding is a characteristic of the “common people,” but that the higher-ups (the priests, the Brahmins) understand better. Assuming this is a dangerous business, however. In the West, for example, particularly in America, confusing the symbol with the referent is by no means confined to simple folk. It is a feature of the belief of most Christians, regardless of their level of education. Western atheists also confuse the symbol with the referent, and on that basis declare that religion is manifestly absurd. Seminarians understand that a symbol is a symbol, but find it very difficult to believe in that which it is a symbol of. Hence, they declare that we can keep religion, if we understand that it is really all about the “religious community,” or about moral instruction, or social activism.
>Some time ago I watched a British documentary about Hinduism, which included footage of a week-long festival in honor of a goddess (I think it was Sarasvati). The celebration involved the molding and painting of an elaborate clay figure of the goddess. A new one was created each year, and at the conclusion of the festival it was joyously dumped into the river. The British host asked a Brahmin if the people were worshipping the statue. The Brahmin smiled and said that he very much doubted that any of the celebrants, no matter how simpleminded, thought that the clay statue actually was Sarasvati. After all, they had to notice that each year it was a new statue! In truth, it was the Western journalist here who was simpleminded. Indeed, the typical way we Westerners understand polytheism (or so-called “primitive” religion) is, to put it mildly, psychologically naïve.
Is there a fertile warrioress riding a chariot pulled by cats who argues with an old one-eyed man who collects lore and ravens until they do a coin-toss for my soul on my honorable death?
No, probably not. But the reverent that those symbol represents is extremely real and is to be embodied and worshiped. We recognise our position in the universe and revere 'the gods' up until we become them.
It's why "le cutting of le tree" is so funny. With any awareness one realises that while not immediately apparent as powerful the forest will always overtake a church eventually… Making the forest, not the church, worthier as a place of communion. Even if it takes untold millennia it will happen.
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>>7812
Why aren't you worshipping Allah yet, by that reasoning? Look at the Middle East and North Africa, all formerly Christian places.