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No.119
"As the Hávamál (the words of the High One) says, “Each word led to another word, each deed to another deed.” While words matter, without action, they don’t count for much.
Jack Donovan recently visited a heathen tribe calling itself the Wolves of Vinland in Virginia. (…)
There’s no LARPing, invented aristocracies, or grandiose titles, but men (and, as Jack slightly neglects, women) living with desperate sincerity. Nor is there any pretense that they are actually Vikings or “jarls” of some glorious past – this is real paganism expressed through blood and ash in the here and now.
It’s something that can be done right now – without waiting for a “collapse,” or a metapolitical shift."
http://www.radixjournal.com/blog/2014/6/15/wolves-among-the-ruins No.145
It's a bit like a hippie commune, no? But with mixed martial arts
No.149
>>145They're all degenerate metal listeners by the looks of it but pro-white and devoted to the gods nonetheless
No.1267
>>119>>145Friends with a few wolves, been out to their place a few times too. Cool guys
>degenerate metal listenersYou're a fucking faggot
No.1605
Bump. Any moar info on this?
No.1607
How does one join this tribe? Do they have a webpage listing the locations of all chapters?
No.1609
>>1267No, you are. Metal is degenerate and most metal listeners are wannabe viking faggots, period.
No.1835
>>1609>Fun is degeneracyMaximum autism
No.1853
>>119this is amazing. This is what I would want to contribute to. Not a bunch of hippie faggots who want to be special snowflakes.
How does one find groups like this?
No.4820
No.4821
>>1609It's music that sounds good to some people. Is it degenerate to listen to the music that appeals to you?
One of my favorite bands is Amon Amarth, probably the most cheesy, mainstream, wannabe-viking group of them all. But I'm not strutting around with a horned helmet and plastic drinking horns. I listen to them because their music is genuinely well composed and makes my ears happy, goddamn it. And say what you want but cheesy as they are, they did their homework, the lyrics are mostly fairly accurately drawn from history and sagas.
No.4822
>>4821Stop feeding the troll. He is either a /pol/ reject who got into asatru because it is "the true white" religion or he is a christfag. Either way he is a retard who does not know shit about asatru.
No.4823
>>119I like shit like this. Tribes and clans and other such groups aren't all about ancestry. They had to start somewhere, at some point our ancestors just found other people wandering around in the woods that they liked and decided to band together, that's how the first tribes were formed.
Since most of those tribes are dissolved today, we might as well just start from scratch. I'd like to see one similar but a little less mma-oriented and a little more practical prepping and survival skills, go hunting and backpacking and shit like that, practice good self-sufficiency skills.
>There's no LARPing>They're calling themselves things like Grimnir and Ref the FoxI'd like to see something a little more modernized as well. Not entirely, don't get me wrong, I don't want to go the way of modern christfag churches holding potluck dinners in brightly lit church basements, but a little. We could stand to do away with the fake names, and ceremonies and feasts could be adapted to urban versions for people who can't innawoods.
No.4824
>>4822I'm not just answering to him. This board seems to have a fairly low opinion of metal and Amon Amarth in particular, mostly for being so mainstream I think, and I'm pointing out that they're actually fairly solid, with well-made music and accurate lyrics, though as I said horribly cheesy.
No.4825
>>4824Those people are contrarian dude. Since most asatruars are into metal and vikings they want to be edgy and hate on those two things. Also it does not help that these fags are basically reformed christfag /pol/lacks who think that asatru is not much different from Christianity. They are like the wiccatrus but in reverse trying to make the religion something it is not.
It is really funny that they shitpost on this board denouncing people who are into vikings meanwhile viking imagery is splayed all over this board (a lot of which was put up by the board owner). Board owner is most likely a metalhead too.
No.4827
>>4825That Pepe, fucking saved.
I personally love metal, have done for years, but I think a problem with it is that while that it is good that it puts Heathen themes and thoughts and messages out there, attracting people, it attracts people that reinforce a stereotype. Now these people aren't bad people as such, they're WOO VIKINGS people with long hair and that's fine, but I suppose many people find the stereotyping that their presence results in to be annoying. These Viking nut-huggers who don't know that much about the religion but are generally okay people who would be willing to learn are certainly better than hard-leftist Wiccatrus, anyway. Some people are just beyond any form of redemption, but I don't think that metalhead Casualtrus are among these people.
For anyone talking about metal itself as a genre rather than about metalheads as people, no it isn't what our ancient ancestors listened to but let's face it - metal is a genre with a great deal of diversity of sounds and most metal bands exhibit impressive musicianship. They make music that has energy and feeling to it. Maybe you don't like it and that's fine, but it's definitely far better stuff to listen to than the overwhelming majority of modern music.
>>4823The fake names make me cringe too, by all means change your name from something Hebrew to something of Germanic origin that fits in today's society like William or Edward, but the name changes to shit like Ingvar Odinsson make my dick hurt a little. That said, why do away with ceremonies and feasts? Getting people together perform some rites and then eat some good food is surely a good thing?
No.4828
>>4823Well when your birth name is "Paul" that's not very volkisch. Hence Grimnir
>>4824Their early stuff is great, their new stuff is okay but just doesn't interest me
Also
>that pepe No.4829
>>4821>>4825>Actually answering to a post that's well over half a year old now>Seriously wanting to cook up a debate over this all over againYou seem to be quite bored
#smh
No.4831
>>4827I like the rites and feasts, I just think they're trying a little too hard to replicate them as they were done instead of adapting them.
A feast can be held indoors as well as out, though it's not as fun.
No.4845
I think there should be organizations like the Amish, but Heathen instead of Christian.
No.4846
>>4831I've been to one of their ceremonies, it couldn't be replicated indoors. Not the echoing chants and the way the fire illuminates the trees
No.4849
>>4823>I'd like to see one similar but a little less mma-oriented and a little more practicalWe will make the finest airsoft team!
No.4853
>>4849I was talking about prepper tier outdoor skills. Hunting, fishing, foraging, survival stuff. Training with real guns would be good too, though.
Actually, though, paintball or airsoft is fairly decent training for real-life combat, certainly better than shooting at a standing target. The sagas say a man should always have a sword or spear at hand and know how to use them so he can protect himself, his loved ones, and his country, I think today that applies to guns.
No.4856
>>4846I believe that, though if the faith is going to spread it needs to be accessible to people who can't get to the woods.
Maybe a group could organize a bus to take a large group to a ceremony at once?
No.4861
>>4825eh, I just dont like metal because its not my thing. If I want to listen to recreational music I have other things, if I want to listen to Heathen music I have traditional european music
No.4879
>>4856They're about elitism, not inclusion. It's meant to be tough to join. They don't get along well with more mainstream asatru groups
No.4881
>>4879I wasn't just talking about them. They're doing their own thing, it's kind of cool but I wouldn't want a group with that elitist attitude for myself.
I do think that the Asatru faith should be more accessible to random weak city fags because the morality portion of it they likely already believe, though they do a shit job following–being brave and loyal to your family and country, and venerating your ancestors–which they could do with a good reminder to follow more closely. The rest of it–the practical parts like not being reliant on other people and systems, knowing how to survive, and knowing how to fight to defend your family and country, I think they could all stand to learn, and if we don't allow them in until they're already confirmed believers who follow our principles, they'll just go back to there sheepy, christfag ways and society will stay boring and weak.
>tl;dr I think Asatru would be good for modern society by teaching people to be loyal and have some balls No.5586
>>4849
>airsoft
They're not a LARP group. They are, metaphorically, "creating their own world."
No.9025
>>9010
>Operation Werewolf
Lolwut
No.9030
>>5586
Sounds like LARPing to me
No.9416
>>119
wolves of vinland seems like a good thing to gain inspiration from, only thin thats kinda gay is that some of them give themselves old norse names, i find that a bit close to larper territory but rest of it is great, really hope that they can someday become self supporting
No.9419
>>9416
So what, they should be content with being called for the rest of their lives "Matthew", "James" or "Hebrew's-Golem" or whatever their presumably cuckstian parents named them?
No.9421
>>9419
yes but giving yourself a name like grimnir or ref the fox will just make your name cringeworthy, whereas something simple like erik or richard or something will make it a normal name. now, if that ref guy actually had qualitys of a fox ( like sneaking around and stuff) that name might have been a good way to describe it. besides, names like matthew and james and stuff don't come from that region anyway, the names were changed when the bible was translated, matthew for example was mattiyahu
No.9423
>>9416
I absolutely think that we should gain inspiration from these guys. Both the Wolves and Operation Werewolf are good organizations to model, especially in terms of forming a kindred.
As a semi-relevant tangent; how would you go about starting a kindred in your area?
No.9426
>>9421
>>9425
Seems to me the better solution to changing your name would be to ask some of your (heathen) friends to get together and name you? Because names seem to have less power or expectation when a person names themselves.
Also you don't have ego-autists naming themselves like "GRIMNIR THE WISE ONE" but if somebody doesn't want the shame of being "Peter" the rest of their lives they don't have to.
No.10544
>>1853
Start one.
We should get a new "meetup" thread going.
No.10546
>Wolves of Vinland
>Jack Homovan
In some ways both are fighting the degeneracies of the world, I guess… but in others they are degenerates par excellence.
They're a mixture of a biker gang, the LARPier branches of our faith and tend to attract people who watched sons of anarchy a little too long. I wouldn't really look to them as some shining beacon or anything. It's better than absolutely nothing, I guess.
No.10581
>>119
Wolves of Vinland seem like a edgy biker gang for disenfranchised white men looking for a group to belong to.
WHICH IS NOT A BAD THING. ALL OF US KNOW THIS FEEL.
BUT, they are total edge fags at the same time.
>heh yea we wear all black
>heh yea we dont care what the normies think
>heh being normal is dumb
>heh im 34 years old
>heh im still dealing with the rebellious mentality because my parents are assholes
Asatru is a fringe element of society. And its not TAKEN seriously at all.
Wolves are only adding to the "LARP" tier mentality that Christchildren laden us with.
I wouldnt have such a negative opinion about the Wolves, if they didnt do the whole "biker gang" thing. They literally even wear faggot leather vests.
Come the fuck on.
I also heard that these Wolves showed up at a very poplular Asatru gather called Lightning Across the Plains. Which is a gather for families, with lots of children. And these edgefags show up and started scaring everyone. Eating raw animal, getting in peoples faces, and starting shit.
>whats wrong with that faggot!??
Lots. Were never going to be more than LARPers in the eyes of the normie masses, OR be able to being our people home if faggots like this are going around brandishing Asatru.
All these guys are, are a symptom of disenfranchisement.
>white men have zero outlets for our natural desires
>muh bike clique
>muh alcohol
Also isnt Jack Donovan a faggot?
No.10584
>>10581
Nailed it.
>Also isnt Jack Donovan a faggot?
Yup, Jack "I fuck men like I would fuck women so I'm a man and not a faggot, what? stop laughing, pls stop" Donovan
No.10588
>>10584
Can I get a link on where he says that shit?
No.10589
>>10588
It's difficult to find these kind of things. I clearly remember him saying something among the lines of: "I pull young boys' ass who have daddy issues with ease" on the rooshV forum
Due to his faggotry, this guy is trying to compensate heavily. Frankly, the way of men is honestly a good book.
No.10590
Contrary to many people in this thread, I actually support the Wolves. Instead of going around worrying about "muh PR" or appealing to Christfags, they just do what they see as right for their tribe. They live by a tribe-specific moral code, don't accept weakness from their members, and they own land that they develop and live on. I'd argue they have a stronger "kindred" than many others.
>le LARPagans
Where is the line drawn? Is Steven McNallen a LARPer for wearing a tunic during rituals? Is it LARPing for little children to wear daisy crowns at Sumbel? Is it LARPing just because "its different and I don't like it"? I'd argue that there are more LARPers in a vanilla kindred, the kind of fatass "HAIL DOR :DD" neckbeard guy who's a fuckup.
If >>10581 is right and they really did that at Lightning Across the Plains, that's shitty and fucking stupid. But I don't believe it without a source, because this isn't the first time that people have made shit up about them.
As for the rest of Heathenry in general, sometimes it gets a bit too "Hey nonny-nonny, dance around the maypole" for me. Certainly its not supposed to be all edgy and dark with pentagrams and shit, but trying to stuff cotton in your ears and make everything sunshiney and happy and not pushing your kindred members to be strong or prepared for violence just makes you blind. If someone rolls up to your gathering and tries to start shit, beat their ass and send them packing, don't get flustered and collapse crying.
No.10593
>>10588
As >>10589 said it was a post of his on the rooshforums
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-15208-post-464704.html#pid464704
> "Yeah, I've been a top for years. I basically fuck men like they are women -- but I'm glad that they're not."
Is the exact quote.
>>10590
>Where is the line drawn? Is Steven McNallen a LARPer for wearing a tunic during rituals? Is it LARPing for little children to wear daisy crowns at Sumbel? Is it LARPing just because "its different and I don't like it"?
As I've said before on this board ( >>9351 >>9359 ), it's only LARPing if never catches on beyond a few people. If the confederate reenactors somehow formed a nation-state it stops being a LARP, the south will have actually risen again and here will indeed be an army of grey uniformed states rights advocates. The difference is merely degrees.
That said, these guys fit the picture of LARP as an insult, inauthenticity, wishful thinking, wanton incorporation of whatever elements they want modern and ancient. Heathenry never involved biker gangs before these guys. Obviously by my own logic if they get large enough they're not LARPing any more, but they'd be a society of hedonistic degenerates without direction all the same.
>If poster is right and they really did that at Lightning Across the Plains, that's shitty and fucking stupid. But I don't believe it without a source, because this isn't the first time that people have made shit up about them.
I happen to buy it at face value, but I too would like a source to bolster my repeating of this information in the future.
No.10594
>>10593
I read an article on I-forgot-which-site which said a few different things, but one interesting idea it put forward is that nobody can be called a LARPer if what they do carries a risk of them getting into trouble or into physical danger. I don't know if the Wolves of Vinland fit that criterion (that said, there could be other criteria for non-LARPdom), but I found the idea mostly agreeable. Someone doing what might look ridiculous, but being willing to end up a social outcast, lose his job, get imprisoned, or get assaulted over it clearly isn't just LARPing. If they take what they're doing so seriously, it isn't simply role-playing; they're actually living it. "No martyr can be said to be LARPing", so the guy said.
No.10595
>>10593
>inauthenticity, wishful thinking, wanton incorporation of whatever elements they want modern and ancient.
Could you go into more specific detail about these? I.e. how are they inauthentic, engage in wishful thinking, etc?
No.10596
>>10593
I can appreciate that people don't like the "biker gang" thing, but get past that and look at what they practice and believe. For me, my problem with most organized Asatru is that it feels toothless at times. If they truly did go fuck up Lightning Across the Plains, the right thing to do would be to host it again, and lay the beat-down on anyone trying to cause trouble, instead of crying and getting upset. In its own way, a lot of the organizations seem to go out of their way to avoid bringing up violence, or try to dilute it to appeal to common masses. I think it was in either "Asatru: A Native European Spirituality" or "Odin's Chosen: A Handbook of Asatru" where the author wrote that yes, soldiers can go to Valhalla, but so can cops and firefighters (eh, maybe), EMTs, nurses, and "pretty much anyone who serves in their day-to-day life", as though they were trying to lure in normies by saying that "Valhalla is so cool bro, but you don't need to change yourself to go there. Just keep doing you and the Valkyries will whip your bedridden old ass up there when you die". Violence is a central part of our religion, we have multiple gods of combat, and while I'm not saying that people should go around raping and pillaging, at least acknowledge the role it has in our culture and religion.
No.10597
>>10594
>I read an article on I-forgot-which-site which said a few different things, but one interesting idea it put forward is that nobody can be called a LARPer if what they do carries a risk of them getting into trouble or into physical danger. I don't know if the Wolves of Vinland fit that criterion (that said, there could be other criteria for non-LARPdom)
I too have seen this article, where the fuck is it? It seems like something ropeculture.org would say but I cannot find an article like that anywhere… Perhaps countercurrents? I know what you mean in any case, I just wish I could find it. It had the example that the man who plays norse warrior with a foam and goes home is LARPing, but he man who takes a sword and attacks a church and carts off its contents is an honest latter-day viking.
It was a great article…
>>10595
>Could you go into more specific detail about these? I.e. how are they inauthentic, engage in wishful thinking, etc?
Show me the black leather clad norsemen with facepaint and metal music. When you do I'll need to explain myself. They're living what they want, what they want includes bikers, heathenry, etc. etc…. And on some level their will to power is commendable, but they are not making anything truly constructive of it. I'll elaborate in some ways below.
>>10596
>For me, my problem with most organized Asatru is that it feels toothless at times. If they truly did go fuck up Lightning Across the Plains, the right thing to do would be to host it again, and lay the beat-down on anyone trying to cause trouble, instead of crying and getting upset.
I agree. However they are following this kind of pop-media rebel-without-a-cause-anti-social model instead of the "build a new society to replace the old" way. It's a very base and degenerate way to go about it… I don't just call them degenerate I indeed level the charge of hedonism against them… a love of violence and being hardcore for its own sake is hedonistic. One can love power and pain so much they crave it. In a way their psyche profile fits Jack Donovan's lifetime of over-compensation to a T. They fit the model of a "false alpha", an insecure boy piloting a strong body and making sure everybody overtly knows he's tough. It's cheap, it's trite, it's not constructive. Even if they were building something on their property their entire ethos won't do anything we need from it.
They are my complaint with neo-nazis being given form in the heathen world. Some of the neo-nazis are true believers but they go about it in the wrong way… due to the bulk who aren't and who just want to feel edgy and strong and free because fuck the system. They wear heathenry because it is so against the system it fits their anti-socialism, not because they truly believe in it itself. You'll note the lack of anything resembling either "the wolves" or neo-nazis in the genuine expressions of what we believe in.
No.10598
Fugging body length error :DDDD
Oh well, at least I can post more images of the better system. Again, note the lack of edge or general rebellious behaviour.
>>10597
So while some will say "at least they're doing something" I would argue the two people in my first picture are doing more than the wolves ever will. Their "doing" is in some ways less than doing nothing, and what little they do others do better. The constructive elements need to get their teeth, and I myself am against "muh PR" but the wolves go into "muh edge" which is just as bad in the other extreme.
It is the trap of the alt-right, you become the alternative and forever cede the mainstream and sit around with your thumb up your ass waiting for "le happenings of happening to clear the way for our system because we cannot be le constructive or sociable". I'm here to build a new society and to rally everybody else who wants to. People such as the wolves are less than useless towards that goal, people like that will in fact have to be purged from the right should a genuine naturalistic national-socialist heathen system start to grow and rise.
No.10602
>>10597
Moving away from the the Wolves circlejerk, if you agree that modern Asatru is toothless, how do you go about fixing it?
I have no political goal to achieve with heathenry, and prefer a tribalistic existence where I can keep track of each individual in my in-group and their actions as opposed to being responsible for the whole white race (white trash and leftiefags included). In terms of invigorating our practices, as I said in >>10596, I think it is essential to acknowledge the role of violence in our religion as well as the inherent danger of certain aspects of our faith (tattooing the Valknut on your chest, for example). Pushing members of your local kindred and friend group to become physically fit and experienced in some form of combat, as well as tying in physical labor with certain rituals (one of my best blots occurred on Freyfest when I offered some fresh hay that I had helped bring in that very evening) can bring some of the life back into heathenry and get rid of unnecessary softness.
No.10608
>>10602
>If you agree that modern Asatru is toothless, how do you go about fixing it?
The same way I plan to fix society and our racial issues. Gather together enough people who agree and forge ahead with our own system. In my case since national-socialism is secular heathenry (like feudalism is secular catholicism and liberal capitalism is secular protestantism) my path includes that element as well. Faith, government, people, culture, art, state, it's all interwoven and only (((a certain family of foreign religions))) that tell us otherwise to create a tear in the cloth and let them in.
>I have no political goal to achieve with heathenry, and prefer a tribalistic existence where I can keep track of each individual in my in-group and their actions as opposed to being responsible for the whole white race (white trash and leftiefags included).
If you haven't noticed from history that method has failed. To be tribes amongst centralised empires, kingdoms and nations is to be hyper-individuals amongst nepotistic tribal groups like jews. It is to offer our entire way of life up as a piecemeal feast. I'm not saying some sort of historical deterministic progressivism, mind you, our values are not outdated but the age of the tribe is largely over in just the way the age of the sword is largely over.
You can still have independent kinships under NS the same as you can have free enterprise (the controlled conditions of 1945 aren't fair to judge when you have the open-but-referee'd conditions of 1933-8 to judge). There would just be a central authority to cut out things like "le lokean commune, fuck you odin-dad at least this god understands I want to be a woman and fuck men!!!!" type activities. The "there's no asapope!" line of thinking irritates me to no end when we know there is a world of things that must be stamped out. If the aforementioned type of cult arose in ancient times the kink would have just gathered his chieftans and stamped it out anyway, the king himself was a regional "asapope".
> I think it is essential to acknowledge the role of violence in our religion as well as the inherent danger of certain aspects of our faith
We call those the SA, then later the SS. :^)
(In fact one COULD kind of say Jack Donovan is a latter-day Ernst Röhm)
>Pushing members of your local kindred and friend group to become physically fit and experienced in some form of combat, as well as tying in physical labor with certain rituals (one of my best blots occurred on Freyfest when I offered some fresh hay that I had helped bring in that very evening) can bring some of the life back into heathenry and get rid of unnecessary softness.
For both genders, I agree completely.
No.10611
>>10608
You'll have to repost the last part about violence, because your post won't expand on the front page and doesn't exist in the thread.
THIS IS WHY EVERYONE HATES YOU CRIPPLEKIKE
No.10615
>>10611
My entire post actually vanished for a few hours. Can you see it properly now?
No.10643
>>10590
>and they own land that they develop and live on. I'd argue they have a stronger "kindred" than many others.
I would totally agree with this. You make a great point.
But at the same time, WE really do need to worry about PR. I mean maybe for some crazy reason we dont, but i just dont see our "normie" kin returning back if all they see is guys like this.
I think we need a BALANCE of successful people, but also then lets take that "idgaf" attitude the wolves have and mix them together. That way, we cant be guilted into making compromises, but we also still appeal to folks.
No.10828
Jack Donovan belongs in a bog.
No.10865
>10602
>pushing members of your local kindred and friend group to become physically fit and experienced in some form of combat
>tfw no group of Asatruar lifting buddies
To be fair, I do have a couple of Asatru-sympathetic/interested, racialist friends I used to lift with. Might be moving to share a house with one soon, I should try and get him more interested in heathenry and see what can be made to grow from there. Looking at how cuckpilled a lot of "heathens" are, I consider that, regarding building kindreds/tribes, it is almost certainly better to take the path of making a Woden cult of a group of suitable right-leaning individuals than the path of trying to red-pill a bunch of Lokean wiccatruars. Maybe would-be kindred members/leaders should be looking for trad-minded friends to make heathen rather than "heathen" friends to make trad-minded. Catholic Juice-Volt crusaders are likely not prime material as they already have a spiritual tradition, regardless of what we might think of it, but I think that there are a lot of suitable people out there who feel a sense of lacking or longing for something which Asatru would provide.
That said, I agree with >>4827 that "casualtrus" could be de-plebbed a lot better than Heathens United Against Racism-ites could be de-cucked. Relatively normie-core people with some superficial interest in "woo vikings haha Thor is cool" are probably one step below "14/88 haha I quietly wish my life had more spiritual fulfilment"-lads in my list of people worth trying to bring to the cause.
(I also agree that changing your name from Paul to Edward is respectable, but special snowflaking with names that stand out too much in our societies is, well, special snowflaking).
(And that some metal is really good music and that there's no need to praise it just for some bands having Viking-related lyrics, nor rail against it for some bands having Viking-related lyrics and being casualfags).
No.10870
>>10590
Lately I've been more concerned with the iterations of life. Having children and respecting the elderly, leaving a legacy. These are the things that the spiritual world offers that the material world does not. If you ignore these things and just hang out in a group of your peers and have party time, you're just like every other shitty group in this modern world, just with a different chant.
A gang of 30 year old men being hardcore is good and all, but where will they be when they hit 45? …55? …65? Are they bringing their sons into this? Do they all gather around their fathers and grandfathers and listen to the tales he tells? Do they have wives? Do they respect the conveyor belt of life? Or is it just rock all day, kill some animals, and drink beer?
No.10882
>>10870
I would see them as a warrior caste but they need to work on their codes of conduct. It is reasonable if they aren't very knowledgeable but they shouldn't be full on ignorant either.
They can redeem themselves if they act more honorably and uphold the virtues.
No.10886
>>10882
Also it seems like they let women in, to box and fight and lift and be "one of the guys." At least that's the way it looks from the pictures. A totally retarded and thoroughly post-industrial ideal.
The Norse were said to give women the most rights of anybody in the ancient and medieval world. And yet they forbade women from owning weapons, voting, or even giving witness testimony in court (they were considered natural liars).
So what's the actual asatru rationale for this? This stinks of wiccatru.
No.10888
>>10886
I would not say full fledged Wiccan shit but it is walking that line. They need to pick a side and make the plunge.
No.11130
>>10886
>Also it seems like they let women in, to box and fight and lift and be "one of the guys."
Not true, women can't become patched members, but they do come out largely to support they guys. If you have a picture of a woman boxing, post it. It might be Evan Phillip's dyke girlfriend, Sarah Stepanick. Evan quit because he's a fag, and Sarah is a wiccan dyke.
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http://www.deathmetal.org/news/metalgate-sjw-drama-band-bestial-evil-implodes-cancels-shows/
Evan is a former wolf spineless cuck who left the Wolves due to pressure from ANTIFA. I'm pretty sure most of the wolves hate him at this point.
If anyone has his whereabouts (he's in Baltimore MD) or place of work, feel free to share. Share any ANTIFAggot dox as well. It's also worth pointing out Shawn Wright
is the ANTIFAg who now owns the band title for Bestial Evil and is partially responsible for this
No.11131
>>10886
Your words are hollow. The gods themselves marched to battle with their wives at their side, proudly.
Have you never heard the names Skadi or Gerda? What do you know at all?
No.11133
>>11131
His words are history.
>have you ever heard of these two famous giantesses
He probably has seeing as /asatru/ unlike other boards require of you to have basic knowledge found in our libraries.
You are a bit arrogant and have very modern sentiments.
I wonder what brought you here.
No.11134
>>11133
>I wonder what brought you here.
He's that 400lb guy at the D&D game who groans loudly whenever the DM ignores a rule and talks down to everybody at every opportunity. And of course he's always there to defend m'ladies.
Unfortunately asatru seems to attract them from time to time.
No.11137
>>11133
>>11134
>>11131
Have any of you dumb cunts ever even met any of the wolves or been to ulfheim? Women are women of the tribe. Please show me some pics or vids this "stronk womyn" you've seen boxing and sparring.
No.11138
>>11137
The ironic thing is, that Paul has touched on this before. He said something along the lines of "People make stuff up about us, or get stuff wrong, and we don't care, we're not going out to correct them". While people on this board (tbh myself included) are circlejerking about "muh wolves, muh womyn, muh PR, abloo bloo acceptable behavior" they're actually fucking doing shit and being hard chargers. Enough of the Wolves autism, what have we been doing to make shit happen?
No.11142
>>11137
>you dumb cunt
Fuck you too.
I wasn't even speaking about this ulfheim, I was merely responding to A_Wizard
Learn to read replies in their correct context, see anons all over this site who are incredibly thick when it comes to that.
>>11134
Best definition I ever heard.
Unfortunate indeed.
No.11144
>>11137
>>11138
Here's a random pic from a well-known search engine. Two women (one with what looks like a skrillex haircut), biker jackets, drinking horns. Now if you read what I said above, it was "it looks like they do this, if so, toxic" not an outright accusation. I still hold off on accusing them of anything, but any hint of pozz needs to be pointed out.
No.11515
>>11144
>no back patches showing
>patched members
0/10
No.11517
>>11144
You're a massive faggot that will criticize anything from the comfort of your computer. There is nothing "pozz" about what they are doing.
No.11519
>>11517
Oh, okay. When you put it that way, I can see the error of my position. Well reasoned refutation, sir.
No.11532
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>>11519
He's not even trying to argue with you. He's just reminding you that you're gay