No.933364
What anime could've benefited the best from having a female MC rather than a male one?
>Endearing rather than a total fag
No.933375
Girls don't idolize people better than them and they don't strive to be stronger/as strong as their hero, it wouldn't have worked, if anything the glasses faggot with the speed power should have been a girl, it's obvious he's a brocon.
No.933376
>>933375
>Girls don't idolize people better than them and they don't strive to be stronger/as strong as their hero
They can in 2D.
No.933378
Bakugo should have been a girl, not Deku.
No.933384
>>933364
Girls don't work as MCs for that genre with that demographic. It would not sell.
No.933393
>>933375
>Girls don't idolize people better than them
>What are groupies
No.933400
>>933399
>>933384
This is what intrigues me. Sure I get that the MC might need to be badass and male, the latter specially for self-inserting. But wouldn't a MC that's waifu AND goes through trials and tribulations the same as a male MC be the best of both worlds? If the mc starts out as a faggot, as a girl that's just "her being precious" which is what I've seen being a big factor as to why people drop series.
No.933401
>>933398
>girls just are not like that
>3D=2D
Fuck off, along with your horrible spacing.
No.933403
>>933378
While I do agree with this, I feel Fem!Deku is an angel and that Fem!Bakugo will probably try to lead her astray.
No.933405
>>933400
The problem is most writers are faggots that are too afraid to hurt a female character too much or give them punishment and as a result they dont get written properly.
No.933409
There's a few arcs of Yu-gi-oh that would have been more bearable if the MC was a girl instead.
>>933405
That comes from a lot of different factors, I don't know what writers you're thinking of but it's commonly why it's just easier to write about men beating the shit out of each other.
No.933411
>>933409
It's easier to write about men beating the shit out of each other because men are more athletically built.
No.933412
>>933400
Please remember that battle shounen is mainly for young boys. Clearly older people of both sexes can also enjoy it but boys are still the main target demographic and they usually want to see a male MC doing action stuff. Most of them usually don't care that much about waifus either at that point. Then there's also the fact that most shounen MCs are /fit/ to some degree, which many otaku wouldn't like seeing with a female character.
I mean, I'd read the shit out of some fighting shounen with a buff tomboy MC but I really can't see that working for many readers, neither for young boys nor anons. Especially not these days.
No.933413
>>933411
Not to mention that e.g. the human skull evolved to take punches, and the male skull doubly so. There was a lot of evolutional pressure on men to give and take punches.
No.933417
>>933384
What are you talking about? Medaka Box, Soul Eater, Claymore and Fairy Tail are great battle shounen manga with female protagonists and they sold pretty well. If you forget battles and look only at the demographics, than Dr.Slump is one of the best selling and the most popular shounen manga and it has female protagonist.
No.933421
>>933412
>shounen with a buff tomboy MC
Unf. I’d kill for that.
No.933423
>>933417
>Medaka Box,
Medaka is not the MC, she is the title character. The MC is Zenkichi.
>Soul Eater
Not a Jump manga, but even if it were it has multiple protagonists. It's not solely focused on Maka.
>Claymore
Not a Jump manga. Also aimed at a different portion of the shounen demographic.
>Fairy Tail
The protagonist is a dude.Not a Jump manga either.
The demographic for Jump battle shounen are still in the girls are icky phase, at least in Japan. Female MCs can work just fine in battle shounens but not ones aimed at the specific demographic Jump usually targets. Dr. Slump is a gag manga so it has more leeway.
No.933428
>>933423
Conclusion: Make Bakugou a girl.
No.933430
>>933384
You forgot about Lina Inverse I assume.
No.933431
>>933430
We all know who the true MC was, it was mere coincdence that Lina got the most screen time.
No.933432
>>933430
What part of Slayers is a shounen jump battle manga aimed at 10 year olds?
No.933434
>>933431
Oh man I used to love the arguments about how Gourry was the actual main character in Slayers...geez I just dated myself. That was 20+ years ago.
No.933436
Reminder: Explosion boy was originally going to be revealed to be a trap in the first U arc that was binding their tits but the editors saw the western money and that was a hard no on something that would have explained 'his' entire character.
No.933437
>>933434
I don't see why he's MC material. I love him from a RPG perspective though. It's like he's the one PC in the group who's player was too lazy to think of any backstory or motivation for him and didn't even bother to read any of the setting background.
>So Geoffrey, what's your character like?
<His name is.... Geo- uh Gourry and he like is really good with the sword and stuff... Look, can we just fight something already?
No.933439
>>933375
>>933376
Generally, but not in every case.
No.933440
>>933436
That better not be true. That would be the biggest editor crime since making Stone Ocean non-/u/.
No.933447
>>933436
That sounds lke bullshit but I want to believe it. Is there any evidence?
No.933451
>>933432
Why the fuck does a shounen battle manga need to be published in Jump in order to be considered as such?
No.933452
>>933451
Presumably the massive size of the readership compared to competitors means more aggressive normalizaton in order to meet the lowest common denominator in demographics to keep profits as high as possible, at least as far as editing and such would be inclined towards a particular bias for anything. Maybe there's a more prevalent reason though?
No.933469
>>933452
Battle shounen is a genre, and Jump doesn't have a monopoly on it. I fail to see the logic that stipulates that if it isn't published by Jump, it can't be a battle shounen.
No.933475
>>933436
>Superiority complex due to constant praise growing up
>Freaks the fuck out when things don't go 'his' way
>Gets mad whenever Deku uses 'his' childhood nickname
It all makes sense now
No.933477
>>933364
Deku's design translates well to being a cute girl, but it wouldn't affect the story or improve things. Deku being a cute fluffy haired dork would be nice for a CGDCT series or even a romance series about an autistic hero loving nerd girl, but it does nothing for BNHA.
No.933482
>>933409
You know I actually see that
>Anna going full rank 10 on everybody, and destroying boypussies left and right
or
>Kotori being the one who receives Astral instead, going into cute adventures around Heartland
Although considering the overall aesthethics and such it feels like that would've ended up becoming a shoujo, what with all the romance archetypes laying around.
No.933499
>>933384
Symphogear is every battle shounen cliché mashed together, with a dash of idol shit. They do spend more time than usual talking about feelings, though.
No.933508
No.933513
Genderbender faggots are the worst trash in the universe.
No character needs a gender change. They are fine as they are.
No.933519
>>933513
All traps should be debonerd.
No.933535
>>933440
Nigger that was the best thing ever because of how much it pisses people off.
Based editor
No.933549
>>933393
You're forgetting the
>strive to be stronger/as strong as their hero
part.
No.933557
>>933513
Wrong on all counts.
No.933598
>>933375
>Girls don't idolize people better than them and they don't strive to be stronger/as strong as their hero
If that's true, then how come there are good female mangaka?
No.933611
>>933609
You must lurk for at least two years before posting
No.933615
>>933364
No. Female protags suck. Kawaii fags have to go.
(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) No.933628
>>933598
Generally in Japan, parents have their kids stay in a particular skill from an extremely young age. And Japanese parents do not accept slacking. If a female artist is good, it's probably just because she's been an artfag since she was 4 or 5 years old, doesn't mean she has any particular ambition.
No.933632
>>933628
>Japanese parents make their kids become manga artists.
>Ambition is not involved in any way.
That's some pretty dumb shit right there.
No.933633
>>933628
Good manga is more than just good art anon. Some female mangaka can actually make well written manga, something alien to the west.
No.933642
>>933364
Literally anything by Rumiko Takahashi.
It's pretty obvious she wants to write female-led stories, but goes for shonen purely because of the money.
No.933644
>>933642
Ranma 1/2 with a female protagonist who turns male is a lot less interesting if you ask me. UY would be completely different, too.
No.933648
>>933642
>>933644
And Inuyasha already has a female MC. Inuyasha might be the title character but Kagome is the actual main character.
>UY
Depends. A yuri version might be good.
No.933653
>>933633
There are brilliant Japanese female composers as well. Shows what a culture can produce when it values work ethic instead of identity.
No.933748
>>933598
Name one
You don't need to idolize someone to write a good story.
>>933628
Being a mangaka in Japan is like being a modernist artist or web toon creator. No sane parent would ever push their child into being becoming mangaka and many try to push them away from that path.
No.933749
>>933653
Again, name one. You don't know what you are talking about. Japan a country that hammers identity into your head the moment you are born. The language itself is gendered and uses different forms depending on the status (identity) of the other person. Their school system forces girls to wear skirts, reinforcing that they are in fact women and the men are in fact men. The Japanese do not value work ethic above identity. What kind of fairy tale bullshit are you on? Do you think you have a grasp on Japanese culture because you watched a bunch of cartoons. Just stop spewing such bullshit.
3D are useless PD everywhere you go, its why they invented the term.
No.933750
>>933749
>Name one
He already did.
>What kind of fairy tale bullshit are you on? Do you think you have a grasp on Japanese culture because you watched a bunch of cartoons. Just stop spewing such bullshit.
Right back at you. Why are you so buttmad about this anyways? Most of your post didn't have anything to do with the ones you are replying to.
>3D are useless PD everywhere you go, its why they invented the term.
Everyone is 3DPD, including you and me.
No.933762
Any anime where the love interest is a girl.
No.933768
>>933749
So your argument is that any examples of outliers demonstrating that women are at least potentially capable of maintaining an ambitious attitude towards rather than a desire for the deprecation of a role model is impossible because any instances of success in female mangaka is solely the cause of their parents deciding that at the age of 5 their kids were going to go pro drawing cartoons? Frankly I can't read your post as a reaction to some kind of unpleasant personal experience. You can't really invoke 3dpd for a gross sanjigen man versus a gross sanjigen woman, or is this just some kind of perceived identity politics thing? Frankly one the worst thing identity politics have done is undermine the efforts of women who are actually doing difficult things despite the handicap of being female (i.e. in the sense of being generally weaker and less capable of performing in activities requiring practical application of mental faculties see:shogi) by lumping them in with a bunch of loonies bleating like sheep just to feel like they're part of something.
No.933787
No.933844
Mushishi might be cool but thats just me wanting a smoking oneesan.
No.933851
>OP makes a thread about his rule 63 fetish
>Instantly derailed because everyone shits on female nature or hates gender swapping.
Both beautiful, and saddening.
No.933903
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>933787
Calling Kanno a brilliant composer is perhaps a bit of an exaggeration but she does a really good job of capturing the 'feel' of other music without straight up ripping off the songs. Admittedly I've only listened to any significant degree the work she did for DtB and I really like it, especially Tentai Kansoku, but it's hard not to compare something like this to Clair de Lune for example.
No.934294
No.934414
>>933768
>>933750
That was my first post you dumb slut.
>>933787
I wouldn't describe her as brilliant.
No.934423
>>934414
Amazing comeback.
No.934424
>>933508
Best answer in the thread.
>>933615
Doesn't matter if this opinion is shit, does not deserve a ban.
No.934427
>>934414
>STOP DISPROVING MY HYPOTHESIS IT WAS AT THE START OF THE PAPER IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER.
You have some problems.
No.934436
>>933400
Pic related.
A little klutzy doofus, who tries and tries and tries.
Both cute and strong willed, trying improve and become as good as or better than her hero.
Female MCs work, you just have to try harder than "dead parents".
No.934448
>>934436
But Akko is a retarded cunt that only succeeds because the writers say it. She's an insufferable asshole that forces herself on other people even when they tell her to go away, and frequently causes problems for them. The part with the silent engineer girl comes to mind. Akko keeps fucking up the girl's belongings because she's a dumbass, and she keeps forcing herself into the girl's lab even though the girl keeps throwing her out. She's a selfish piece of shit. She also doesn't learn from anything. They even acknowledge it when she fails the test of patience yet gets the reward for completing it anyway.
Akko is a terrible example of a working protagonist because the entire time she causes problems for others. It isn't a story of an underdog that proves her detractors wrong, it's a story of a horrible person that keeps getting justified criticism from the people that suffer from her incompetence and selfishness. We aren't supposed to be rooting for the rival. A rival that is much more hardworking and deserving of success.
No.934453
Did someone say "Shounen with a female MC"?
No.934455
>>934448
Stop being so tsun, Diana.
No.934456
>>934448
Your asshurt sustains me.
No.934462
>>934448
>only succeeds because the writers say it.
Gee, it’s almost like she’s a fictional main character in a work of fiction with a predetermined storyline. Stellar observation captain obvious.
No.934464
>>934448
Yes and? That still sounds like a shounen MC. Actually, some of them have done way worse, For example Goku has endangered entire planets just so he can have an entertaining fight. "Winning through plot armor" is very shounen too.
No.934473
Tomo-kun wa otoko
>This girl... Junichiko, doesn't treat me like a guy at all!
No.934546
>>934473
>Constantly tries to better himself, going through hell and back for this girl
>She's too dense to notice his advances but he actually tries his darn best
>Has an american memer and a sassy yet stoic japanese buddy as friends
He'd either have /a/'s blessing for sticking to his plan or be called an idiot for wasting his time with a chick that doesn't give a flying fuck about when there's probably prime fucking material everywhere else.
No.934585
>>933451
>Shounen battle manga
>He hasn't read the light novels
How Slayers ever got classified as Shounen is beyond me. It's light-hearted adult humor, but it's still adult humor most of the time.
No.936689
>>936681
No it's more like it's rare to see a fem!MC of the shounen genre than anything else. Like you'd think
>Waifu
>battle shounen
Would be the indisputable winning formula
No.936692
Almost everything is better with skeleton protagonist.
No.936694
>>934448
You need to separate Akko as a character from her role in the plot.
I agree that the plot was very retarded in places. There were far too many implausible ass pulls and the Shiny Rod was a constant source of deus ex machina endings to episodes. The world building was kind of shit too. It was obvious that the writers had tried to copy Harry Potter but hadn't learned from any of its mistakes.
All that said, Akko was by far the best part of LWA. On a personal level she did routinely suffer for her stupidity. She got bullied and humiliated, yet she persevered. She provided cuteness and comic relief in an otherwise completely forgettable anime. If the writers had been a bit less shit then LWA would have worked really well with Akko as the protagonist.
No.936708
>>936703
I don't think the original concept would be all that different from a shoujo story. I do wonder how all the other roads would have turned out though. I am mad about the fact that Fate is forever stuck in sell-out hell and that we'll never get another non-cashgrad game.
No.936813
Generic Isekai might work better for me if it had a female lead. I can't stand those usual blank, bland LN MCs.
I know there's some that have a genderswapped MC,transformed MC or a female MC in an otome setting but I can't recall any recent isekai anime that just had a girl hero.
No.936814
>>936813
The generic isekai formula is usually very male focused though, with harems of cute girls and adventuring. Unless you're into yuri or if you genderswap the entire cast so that it's aimed at female otaku/fujos I don't really see how a female MC would work without just feeling like a guy with tits.
I suppose having a girl become a generic isekai MC and just be disappointed by having to play a male role when she doesn't want to would be a decent comedy premise but I can't see 10+ light novels coming out of it so we're probably never going to see that.
No.936817
>>936814
>harems of cute girls and adventuring
Either go full /u/, replace the romance with CGDCT or something inbetween. Even a complete swap might be fun, something like Mahoyome in a generic fantasy settting with a more powerful MC. The adventuring part can stay as it is.
>10+ light novels coming out of it so we're probably never going to see that.
Eh. Most isekai LNs shouldn't drag their concept out for 10+ volumes but they do it either way.
No.936819
>>936814
Kuma Kuma Kuma and Kumo Desu ga, Nani ka are pretty good novels with females protagonists who don't feel like guys at all. Kumo is even one of my personal favourites protagonists, she is really charismatic and her long monologues are pretty interesting to read.
No.936821
>>936819
Not familiar with Kuma but Kumo Desu ga, Nani ka isn't what I'd call a generic isekai.
No.936825
>>936821
But it is generic. It's on the better side, but doesn't have anything other isekai novels don't.
No.936827
>>936819
I agree with the other anon. Kumo desu ga isn't the kind of generic isekai. It's even what I was referring to above with "transformed MC" as it hardly matters if it's a boy or a girl in that setting and body. I heard she transforms into a drider later but I lost interest long before that.
Kuma Kuma Kuma on the other hand is pretty close to what I mean. Thank you for that. I think I'll even give the LN a try.
>>936825
It's missing stuff like towns, guilds, gear, interactions with other humans and going on quests. For example series like Honzuki no Gekokujou or Meido Kara Haha ni Narimashita don't count either. That alone doesn't make them bad or good, they are just missing some parts of the checklist.
No.936831
>>936827
> It's missing stuff like towns, guilds, gear, interactions with other humans and going on quests.
Not really, it got them later, when she %exited the labyrinth and started started travelling with her former classmate, whose arms she liked to eat and grow back with healing magic.%
No.936851
>>936831
>%text%
Anon, what are you doing?
No.936965
>>936814
>I don't really see how a female MC would work without just feeling like a guy with tits
Is there something wrong with a guy with tits?
No.936968
>>936965
>Is there something wrong with a guy with tits?
Not in my opinion but I must admit that it is a pretty niche genre.