No.911067
The adventures of Space Sweden continues. Thread for we obstinate few who still put up with this show.
Previous thread: https://8ch.net/a/res/894847.html
No.911071
Even in the far reaches of space. The burger reigns supreme as the food of choice.
No.911081
>oh yeah there are those burgers too
>we should do something with them
>which one's gonna die, the orange one or the commander?
>orange heads, commander tails
>...
>commander it is
Tune in next week for Egao no Daika, to see orange die! Sad story!
No.911082
>space Sweden
>not space Canada
No.911100
>>911082
Have they started welcoming 1 million immigrants in the story yet?
I'm a little behind but I'm guessing it's still comical in drama, QUALITY driven and the story is going toward a stupid ending.
No.911101
>>911082
There is a difference?
No.911104
>>>/a/910652
>Thing is, they constantly keep making the preparations for her to fuck some shit up, and they never follow up, there's always just more suffering and bullshit. They're still doing this right now. If the anime was simply about loss during war, they wouldn't need to make shit up about the princess being a great tactician, they wouldn't need to constantly hang this (retarded) dilemma over every single Kingdom episode where the princess has to choose between the Kingdom and her completely pointless, unreasonable pacifism that gets proven to be wrong time and time again.
I can't actually tell if it's intentional or the writer and director are just complete retards though, maybe they actually think that Hime's pacifism is actually a reasonable position that someone would try sticking with for any length of time in a war.
I honestly think they don't have a writer for this show. It's like they just give the reigns to some random fucker in the studio each episode who has a random idea of what they want to do. They keep foreshadowing shit, provide adequate reasoning for many developments but it just goes back to the Princess' most capable subjects just suiciding themselves because she is so inept. And then its back to the empire being capable and not complete mouthbreathers.
Fuck this show makes me mad.
No.911106
>>911067
>obstinate few who still put up with this show.
I haven't been able to watch much airing anime recently, so I haven't been keeping up. It's bad? It was doing fairly well before.
No.911108
>>911106
It's burning bright and hot if that's what you mean by "fairly well". Every episode finds a new way to deliver the same disappointment.
No.911135
>>911106
>fairly well before
Where the hell should I begin? Are you drunk? Are you stoned? Is this bait? Are you watching the same show we are? Are you from a parallel universe? An alternate dimension? Trying to see how many replies you get? Because this show wasn't doing well after episode 2. It might be the worst thing this season. Unless GAF keeps being shit, then it might not place last.
>>911104
They had an idea; it wasn't fully thought out. Instead of working on refining and actually working with it, they just made it anyways. Its kinda like Occultic:Nine, Except there was nothing preceeding this in order to ride the hype-wave.
No.911138
>>911106
The first two episodes were bearable but it was never doing "fairly well". I dropped on episode 4 or 5 so who knows how far it's fallen now.
No.911147
I can already see all those Ahegao no Daika doujin where the girls either sell themselves for food, do lewd things to alleviate the daily suffering of a war, or get raped. Maybe that's the only reason they made this series, that name is just too obvious.
No.911152
I don't get it. I watched until Princess tried to offer herself but she was instead sent away and lied to. It was fun and the battles were well-animated. Last thread people were generally enjoying it and having fun poking fun at the plot holes. Where did the sudden edgy THIS IS SHIT sentiment come from? /v/?
No.911154
>>911152
We have fun with shit all of the time, it was just never the topic of discussion. It's also now basically confirmed that we wont get loli Hitler, which is what most people were watching for.
No.911158
If only Jonathon were here...
No.911162
>>911154
>It's also now basically confirmed that we wont get loli Hitler, which is what most people were watching for
I agree with this. I wanted to watch her go nuclear, but I guess I was just setting myself up for disappointment. Although, I also wasn't expecting them to go full WAR BAD FOSSIL FUEL BAD route; that shit is just way too played out.
No.911164
>>911152
>until Princess tried to offer herself but she was instead sent away and lied to
Back then some of us still had hopes that this would eventually go somewhere. It didn't, and it clearly never will.
No.911194
>>911152
I got to this series a month and a half late without ever stepping foot in the previous thread, I made it two episodes in and dropped it immediately. Chewing popcorn while being entertained by something poor is all well and good, but I strongly doubt that means the majority of the /a/utists who watched this thought it was actually decent.
The only thing going for it was a potentially great setup for a show really early, but they floundered so hard so fast that I spoiled the rest of the episodes by going through the last thread. And I discovered my instincts were right on the money and I didn't miss anything.
No.911220
>>911152
I don't think its as bad as the others say. The last few episodes are really dragging out the "war is bad" theme for no reason. Then again if all the same events were pushed into half as many episodes we would be saying the story is rushed.
No.911247
>>911152
The big problem is that they basically made the same episode five times in a row, any new revelation isn't put into action. Like what is the reason of showing Stellas backstory 3 times in a row when it was figured out the first time from the flashback stills?
No.911313
>>911220
>if all the same events were pushed into half as many episodes we would be saying the story is rushed
That's only because it'd mean like 3 dramatic deaths per episode, and subsequently princess screaming and crying 3 times per episode. Not because things have happened. The only things that happened since like episode 5 were the big no shit reveal about the chrars and the chrar-EMP.
No.911353
Why the hell is no one using chrars to drive propellers on wooden biplanes?
How can they have floating mechs but no knowledge of basic fixed-wing aviation?
No.911369
>>911220
The obvious conclusion is that you see a long prolonged conflict where both sides want it to stop and the Hime willl propose an end to the hostilities and leaking the "Global warming bad goys" narrative from the research reports of the vanquished kingdom. Then Hime will ultimately forgive the enemy for the war and all its sacrifices because that is the price of smiles while quoting a segment of the price of smiles from dostoevsky:
“Is there in the whole world a being who would have the right to forgive and could forgive? I don't want harmony. From love for humanity I don't want it. I would rather be left with the unavenged suffering. I would rather remain with my unavenged suffering and unsatisfied indignation, even if I were wrong. Besides, too high a price is asked for harmony; it's beyond our means to pay so much to enter on it. And so I hasten to give back my entrance ticket, and if I am an honest man I am bound to give it back as soon as possible. And that I am doing. It's not God that I don't accept, Alyosha, only I most respectfully return him the ticket.”
No.911383
No.911551
>>911152
It might be because it's gotten mired. We're 10 out of 12 episodes in at this point, and it's time to wrap this up, and all we've seen has been mostly SOL punctuated with some battle scenes and tragic deaths and backstories. I think the frustration comes from the fact that we've been expecting something to happen for the last nine weeks, and nothing did.
No.911554
>>911383
>Dostoevsky is cringe
Get fucked.
No.911627
>>911554
Copypasting book quotes in a chinese cartoons forum is cringy.
No.911631
>>911627
Being ironic and not taking your hobby seriously is normalfaggy.
No.911641
>>911152
>I don't get it.
I don't get it either. People are hating on this show really hard, and its just far too mediocre to deserve such strong feelings.
>>911383
>>911627
>Cringe
No.911643
>>911631
>>911641
>>911554
>being so pretentious that you talk about watching Japanese cartoons seriously and quoting Russian authors from the 19th century to prove your point
Go be a pseud somewhere else. You should have used the data that post took up to post some loli hime instead.
No.911662
>>911643
>Pseud
You are responding to different anons. Not everyone is as interested in being a philistine as you are.
No.911713
>>911641
>People are hating on this show really hard, and its just far too mediocre to deserve such strong feelings.
Maybe we've gone too long without a decent Mecha anime and/or are still feeling the aftereffects of Kadokawa Friends and Aldnoah Zero.
No.912890
>the Kingdom's food production is like 80% reliant on Chrars
>the burger's food production is like 150% reliant on Chrars
<hmm I wonder how I could save the most lives
Everyone knew this was coming, but still.
No.912921
>>912890
You don't understand. There was no war before Chrars, so if you get rid of Chrfossil fuels and gunsars there will be no war and everyone will become one with nature and be happy.
No.912961
>Nothing happens
>Suddenly its looking like stuff will happen
>"Tune in next week!"
Maybe it will end? I wish they'd go with something less melodramatic than what they're probably going to do. But I guess we'll just have to wait and see how high the flames get.
No.913041
I take the Empire doesn't believe in teaching female biology to its citizens.
No.913073
Remember when we thought she would go full loli Furher? Good times.
No.913086
>>912961
>Maybe it will end?
It will, it's listed as 12 episodes. Thank fuck.
No.913127
Estimate the budget of this episode.
No.913128
>>913127
Same as usual, but even the staff are sick of it now?
No.913135
>>913127
That cut deserves a webm.
No.913185
>>913127
Not gonna lie, the animation did look a lot worse than it had. They probably blew most of the budget on shitrito's VA.
No.913282
>>913127
Hiigher than the early episodes.
QUALITY episodes are often the most expensive episodes because they need to hire additional freelancers or companies to redo and fix cuts.
No.913291
>>913267
What a masterpiece of writing.
No.913319
>>913185
>blew most of the budget on shitrito's VA.
Nope, hiring VAs is really cheap. That they are expensive is a very common misconception.
A junior VA makes 15000¥ (135$) per episode, and the agency normally takes a 20% cut from this fee.
This means that the income of a junior seiyuu is 108$ (pre-tax) per episode. Many junior seiyuu have a part time job, and most of them give up.
A veteran seiyuu makes up to 45000¥ (404$) per episode, hiring a famous seiyuu isn't expensive.
Seiyuu make most of their money through royalities, their income correlates with the success of the anime they are in. That's why famous seiyuu turn down some roles.
No.913331
>>913319
Single VA isn't that expensive, but if you add up all VAs cost for all episodes it would be a pretty hefty sum. Especially for endless whole year anime the chose of VA can make a big difference.
No.913362
>>913185
>shitrito's VA
Who?
No.913409
>>913362
He is talking about Kirito's VA from SAO. The blond guy who died in the second episode.
No.913413
>>913282
>QUALITY episodes are often the most expensive episodes because they need to hire additional freelancers or companies to redo and fix cuts.
Seriously?
No.913821
>I'm going to surrender to bring an end to this horrible war and all the bloodshed it brings.
<NO! WE CAN'T LET YOU DO THAT!
>Okay, why don't I just destroy civilization as we know it and bring about a literal apocalypse?
<Sure, sounds cool
No.913825
>>913821
I wonder how long it would take someone to point out every single thing that's wrong with this show.
One thing that just dawned on me is that the reds have no fortifications. For being on the defensive against an invading force and also massively outnumbered, all they've done so far is send troops to fight the empire on big, flat, open fields in pitched battle. Nobody considered the possibility of something like a big wall or trenches. They had a minefield at one point and I think some kind of turret emplacements if I recall correctly, but nothing that would actually physically stop the empire's advance.
No.913827
>>913825
The fundamental problem is that the writers clearly have no interest in wars, all the actual conflicts only exist to progress the characters' stories and kill the people that need to be killed to allow another episode to end on Hime freaking out. This is also why they foreshadowed Hime's good sense for tactics, only to ditch it with some offhand mentions of "well she did real clever stuff, offscreen" afterwards.
No.913854
>>913825
>I wonder how long it would take someone to point out every single thing that's wrong with this show.
Better yet, make a list with every single thing that this anime actually did right.
No.913856
>>913854
>sexy loli back
Done.
No.913859
>>913854
That depends on how you look at it, right towards its intended purpose, or right towards being a good anime?
Going with the latter,
>Hime's design
>somewhat interesting premise of presenting both sides of a war over a dying planet
The way I thought the plot would go/should have gone was something like
>faggot-kun gets killed
>Hime becomes Fuhrer, absolutely fucks the burgers with dirty tactics
>burgers still winning because massive numbers
>Buerger squad gets captured during some mission
>Stella runs into Stella-mom
>Buerger squad is convinced to defect to protect Hime's egao
>they go on to wreak havoc from the inside of the burger army
>burgers defeated, Hime becomes god-emperor
>slowly phase out chrars to restore the planet
>egao no daika was having to wipe out the burger army because they were fags
>if you kill your enemy, you win
There were so many episodes where I was thinking they'd finally be setting this plot, or later on, some cut-down, bastardized version of it, into motion, it's quite amazing they completely slid past every single one of them, just to do nothing whatsoever with the plot.
No.913861
>>913854
Its not an entierly a one-sided view of a war. Aside from a good loli back, like >>913856 said. Then that's it.
>>913859
>bastardized version
You mean inferrior in practically every regard. Your idea actually sounds decent if not good compared to what they put out.
No.913863
>>913859
We don't even know what it's intended purpose was, and we may never find out. They may have had a perfectly coherent and interesting story to produce, and then had to change it for some reason. Like, maybe they were too ambitious with the plot and couldn't fit it all into 12 episodes, so they had to decide between fleshing out the setting and the conflict between the kingdom and the empire on the one hand, versus killing off characters in dramatic fashion so that we can see Hime crying at the end of every episode on the other.
No.913865
>>913863
I think the key scene was after the EMP, the Hime going
>if only it wasn't for gunschrars, everyone could live in piss forever
and all the other characters taking it seriously and going along with it. It's intended purpose was to become an anime about why war is bad, guns are bad and fossil fuels are bad.
No.913872
>>913865
I don't know where you're getting the anti-guns message from. The kingdom just used a bigass mobile artillery to intimidate the empire, and the entire show shows cool mecha fights from both sides. Hime doesn't want anyone to die and you might even call her a pacifist but she does recognize how useful weapons are and makes use of them all the time. The burger squad also makes good use of guns when shooting generic guards when they're being shown as the good guys too.
No.913877
>>913872
>I don't know where you're getting the anti-guns message from.
That specific scene explicitly blaming the power source and its military use, Hime very much disliking the military use of the power source and commenting on it many times in the earlier episodes, and the resolution of the whole anime being "we turned off the power, now your guns won't work so you can't wage war against us". That they happened to show cool mecha fights is probably something accidental, or a necessary evil to get the anime made.
>The burger squad also makes good use of guns when shooting generic guards when they're being shown as the good guys too
The burgers are never shown as the good guys, just guys. The enemy are also human, something like that. I never got the impression that those shootouts with only one side doing actual shooting were supposed to sell me on how cool guns are.
No.913881
>>913877
Hime doesn't dislike the Chars just because they're used for war, she also dislikes them because they were what got her parents killed and also because she just found out they literally kill the planet. She wants to disable them so that they won't be used anymore at all, not just to end the war. You also don't fill your show with mecha fights by accident.
And the burgers are definitely depicted as good guys in the episodes that revolve around them. Some are depicted as assholes but none of them are evil, and the majority of the squad is clearly made to be sympathetic. They're shown as good people being made to fight a war, just like the main characters on the kingdom side. Also no, it wasn't glorifying guns but it also didn't make it seem like an evil thing when they were gunning down guards to steal food and save orphans. It sounds to me like you want the show to be produced by /k/ or else it's anti-guns.
No.913885
>>913881
I was thinking about including a disclaimer and I probably should've, I'm not particularly /k/ and don't have any gun freedums issues that I need to project on anime.
Hime explicitly didn't want the new Chrars to be put into the mechs and she just wanted them to be used for peaceful purposes, whatshisname had to do it without her permission. They literally say that if the guns stop working, it'll end the war, and that if only they didn't have chrars and by proxy the mechs, people would just live in peace. I don't know how can this be taken as anything but anti-gun propaganda.
Another important factor is that it's bleeding pacifism out of every orifice for whatever reason, they're always avoiding killing the burgers whenever feasible in any way, and the few times they don't, they always make a big fucking show out of it, refer to the crying command room scene. They do show that pacifism keeps fucking the kingdom over, but it never really stops in spite of that. If the writer thinks that such behavior is reasonable, I don't see why him being anti-gun is an unimaginable next step.
Also this anime is shit and it doesn't deserve long posts discussing what it is and isn't about.
No.913891
>>913825
>Nobody considered the possibility of something like a big wall or trenches. They had a minefield at one point and I think some kind of turret emplacements if I recall correctly, but nothing that would actually physically stop the empire's advance.
They do cover that in the first two episodes. They staked everything on the chokehold of the canyon and the border city at the end of that canyon. When those fell then the Empire could just swarm wherever they wanted and they had no time to make some kind of great wall of china in the Kingdom. They managed to hold them off for days while suffering heavy losses before Joshua could reinforce them but it was just not enough against the horde.
No.913894
>>913891
Since then a pretty significant amount of time has passed, several months. Sometimes new natural defense lines also came up, like that burger episode where the other girl got a broken leg or whatever.
No.913895
>>913877
>"we turned off the power, now your guns won't work so you can't wage war against us".
Considering that they do not have sufficient troops to beat the enemy, lost all if not most of their key personnel and strong commanders, only advantage is some small tech superiority which so far hasn't made them win major battles. Only option Hime does have is to turn off the Chrars and hope that the enemy won't be bloodthirsty and beat her face in with their bare hands.
All thing considered, Hime did nothing wrong.
No.913897
>>913895
>Hime did nothing wrong.
Aside from killing their own troops a couple of times, and explicitly forbidding everyone to kill enemy troops unless it's a direct head-on engagement, and saving enemy troops by warning them ahead of time when she made that ridge collapse.
No.913900
>>913891
Maybe if everything past that chokepoint is just flat rolling hills that would make sense, but there must be at least landscape features they could have used strategically. Besides, assuming this war had been on the horizon for a while before the actual fighting started, I would assume they'd want to build some defences just in case their one defensive measure somehow fails in the face of a massively overwhelming enemy force. It might happen, you never know.
>>913885
>Also this anime is shit and it doesn't deserve long posts discussing what it is and isn't about.
Oh, I disagree. If a show is good then everyone knows it's good and there isn't much to talk about other than how good it is. It's not very interesting trying to figure out how your grandfather passed away peacefully at age 89 surrounded by friends and family. But if someone discovers a body in 5 different dumpsters, there's a story in that.
No.913901
>>913900
>but there must be at least landscape features they could have used strategically
A lot of the battles take place in canyons and around bridges. Pic related was a siege situation and had more than a whole episode dedicated to breaking it. When the kingdom did fight in open plains, they always had strategic advantages with things like giant mine fields and better artillery support.
Also, we only ever saw worst case scenario battles where the kingdom was trading off 1 for 10 rather than bunkering down with no loses. They tended to gloss over stalemates and wins for the kingdom where the defenses were working as intended. I guess in the writer's subconscious minds, character development only happens whenever the empire takes major ground. Maybe it's even supposed to be some sort of symbolism related to "the price of smiles" that was just poorly done.
No.913934
>>913895
>hope that the enemy won't be bloodthirsty and beat her face in with their bare hands
A bad ending like that would actually redeem the show for me. Too bad there's absolutely no chance of it happening.
>nuke the world with an EMP
>empireniggers proceed to wipe out the last remains of Soleil by chucking spears and setting their cities on fire
No.914545
>>913897
She's waaaaaaay too idealistic. I was hoping she would wisen up later, but she hasn't changed that much.
No.914605
Everyone lives happily ever after. The End.
No.914610
Hey, this Turn A Gundam prequel wasn't that bad.
No.914611
Guess I totally misunderstood something.
I thought only the new chrars destroy the planet and the old(?) ones are fine.
No.914612
>>914611
No it was definitely all the chrars had been destroying the planet.
No.914617
So what was the Egao no Daika in the end?
No.914618
>>914617
The technology that powered cool robots? Definitely wasn't worth it.
No.914621
>>914617
The price was the audience's smiles.
No.914623
>>914605
>loli's hair is levitating
On the one hand, the show is bad. On the other hand, it's bad enough to be hilarious. The trouble is finding out whether it's worth pushing through the pain of watching to really extract the comedy.
No.914626
What a giddy happy ending, jesus. It's like they didn't just kill off 90% of the Kingdom cast for stupid reasons.
This last episode wasn't so bad though, good enough to make me raise my score from 2/10 to 3/10. Second mom died, but at this point I'm used to absurd stupid deaths for melodrama, that didn't bother me so much. What did bother me was Stella not understanding that she was her mother, that was the dumbest thing in this episode. Because right after that, she walks up to Hime and just accepts her piss4ever speech at face value. If she had known it was her mother telling her to take care of Hime, the following scene, her flipping sides, would've made a lot more sense.
Overall though, it was complete ass. Normally a bad anime is just bad and that's all there is to it, but this one, they had so many ideas and so many opportunities to make the plot suck less, and all of them were so blatantly obvious. Anyone who watches anime could've picked it up and rewritten it to a 6/10 plot.
No.914635
>>914626
Lily, the girl that set up death flags at every opportunity that she could find, makes it because she is cute. In fact every girl under the age of 25 survived.
No.914641
>>913865
>fossil fuels are bad
HAHAHAHAHA!
No.
No.914643
>>914635
>every girl under the age of 25 survived.
There were only 4, 2 of them on the borderline invincible burger team and 2 of them were the main characters that wouldn't die either way.
>>914641
Just you wait, Egao no Daika 2, you won't be laughing.
No.914644
>>914643
>There were only 4
Rude
No.914645
>>914644
Didn't think she was anywhere near main cast, but I guess they could've killed her off at some point for cheap drama.
>still better written than Ass Effect
No.914649
>>914611
Every chrar used the nanomachines in the air for energy, they fucked up the nanomachines so that the chrars old or now doesn't get energy.
No.914650
Well the final tally is in and I think we can see who the director's favourite side was.
No.914651
>Enemy turns off all the weapons
>Still has a bunch of soldiers on the ground
>Goes off on a tirade of needing to make a show of power to your people
>Signs peace treaty right away
>Knew about chrars fucking with the planet but gave no fucks but suddenly gives fucks
Yeah yeah, I know. They only had 12 episodes to wrap up something that should have been a 24 episode show. But man that was squished.
No.914653
>>914626
I felt that some moments were nice or at the very least the idea was good. But they just kinda whimpered out in the end. I like to drag myself through low budget shows because sometimes you do find something that is filled with heart and soul that charms you. Like the first season of Symphogear which is full of low quality animation which they make up for with choreography and passion.
No.914654
>>914650
I don't think a final tally was needed for that, the two sides got very different treatment the entire time.
>>914651
>should have been 24 episodes
They didn't do a single fucking thing for more than half the season, it was episode after episode of nothing. The only ones that really had plot relevance were 1, maybe 2, then parts of 10, 11 and 12. What they would've needed is a better writer.
No.914655
>>914653
I don't think low budget was an issue here. If the animation had been any good, it would've come off as pretentious, like every other Kyoani show. For the more important scenes they usually managed to animate well enough, it never got to the point of using 5-second stills to buy time.
Maybe in regards to the writing team, who knows, they might've been under more workload than they should've been. Or they just suck.
No.914657
>>914626
This is the review of the whole show. This is all anyone needs to know.
>>914651
>24 episodes
Yeah, if they filled everything out to begin with! They didn't even go for the holes though, they just said "Fuck it," and we got people die for practically eight episodes straight.
>>914654
Its not so much as who wrote this, as who approved it. I'd ask; "What the hell made you think, 'Yeah, this is going to be great!'?" Both the writers and their bosses need to be reconsidered.
No.914658
>>914651
You actually bring up a good point with those pictures: was hime forced to marry him, or he's waiting for her to turn 12?
No.914675
That was an interesting show to watch. I was only watching for Yuki's crying and hopefully going full Hitler Reich, but was able to settle for her flat. If this was 24 episodes it would have been 10 episodes of filler. Like others have said the potential was there but none of the execution needed to make it shine.
No.914677
>>914675
>it would have been 10 episodes of filler
Exactly, then we would have had 14 episodes of plot instead of 2.
No.914697
>>914626
Yeah, the fucked up throughout and that doesn't include the QUALITY all over the place. I think the message of the show, other than being environmentally friendly, is that a temporary peace is better than no peace and they had to press a gay rainbow button to do it. They could have played up on the civil unrest and people toiling in the fields to farm for the first time but they wiped that idea out by making the sunflowers bloom so quickly after the chrars shutdown. A shitty way to end the series when it had potential to be so much better.
No.914708
This damn show, the value of smiles plummeted today. At least the thread was enjoyable.
No.914718
>>914658
I think Hime turned 12 in the first episode.
No.914736
>>914655
The writers seemed more like they had a lot of good ideas to start from, and then just threw them all together and hit the blend function. The series would have benefited greatly from competent leadership cutting out loose threads because there wasn't enough time to include all of them, or because some of them were just plain stupid.
No.914772
The show had some nice ideas:
>That typical shonen MC? They kill him in the second episode!
>We can see both sides of the war.
>The loli princes was likeable... but she never matures. I was expecting for her to grow up, but she was always behaving in an excessively idealistic way. As a result, lots of lives under her care are lost.
It could have been better, but I don't think it was a waste of time.
No.914789
God damn it, it's in this timeline too.
No.914887
4/10 it was alright. What >>914626 pointed out about Stella not recognizing her mother bugged me the most. Did they mention Stella getting amnesia at some point and I ended up missing it?
And despite the princess' delicious flatness, back and armpits it didn't seem to inspire much art on pixiv.
No.915001
>>914887
>Did they mention Stella getting amnesia at some point and I ended up missing it?
I don't think so, it was just for drama's sake. It didn't click for her even after being called her daughter, despite mom recognizing her in half a second.
No.915079
>>914964
This part made me laugh so much. She looks so incredibly goofy poking out of the rubble like that. Totally ruined the supposedly serious scene for me.