/a/ - Animu & Mango

Why is this show wanting me to sympatice with cancer?

>>852743

Research has found a link between laughing/humor and activity of NK cells. As NK cells naturally find and kill cancer cells, laughing helps your body fight cancer. There still seems to be quite the debate on how to measure humor such as laughing in response to stress vs watching/reading comedy vs what is funny to each person. The only real conclusive statement that can be made about the current knowledge is that "humor may have some effect on the activity of NK cells. We will get back to you on this." I'm not medicalfag

>>852755

It's just illustrating how unforgiving the human body is, cells don't ask to become defective or cancerous but it happens, and they have to be eliminated for the good of the whole system (E.g. keeping you alive).

This series is just like the worst kind of shounen fight series these past few episodes, but with more woman catering.

No wonder mostly women buy it.

>>852768

At least they could be gentle with them and not call them bugs. They didn't ask to be born like this.

Is it true that there are actually cells that kill cancerous cells? This implies that cancer isn't a recent phenomena (since we evolved cells to stop it), the part that's new is that for whatever reason we now suddenly have problems fighting cancer. Did something suddenly change that stopped NK-chan doing her job properly?

The quality this episode was all over the place. Some nicely animated action scenes, but a shitton of panning, sudden cuts, closeups and lingering shots.

>>852775

>This implies that cancer isn't a recent phenomena

What the hell gave you the impression it was a recent thing? Cancer is an ancient disease, humans have always suffered from it. The only recent thing is now we live long enough for it to become a major issue.

>>852775

Yes its true NK cells have been evolved to fight cancer cells. It would make sense anyways since cancer is a natural thing caused by incorrect uncontrolled mitosis. Its not that we suddenly have problems fighting cancer, we have always had problems with it. We just document it more now than in the past and actively try to fight it with research. As humans have become smarter they have greatly mitigated their own forms of death e.g. vaccination, food, quality of life, etc. as >>852777 said. Cancer is just working its way toward the top of the list of causes of sickness that humans have not figured out.

Do not fall into the assumption that cancer equates to giant tumor and radiation therapy. Inside even healthy bodies a few cancer cells exist, NK just wipes them out before they get out of hand as this episode demonstrated. Only when the cancer can fool the immune system or cannot be beaten back by the immune system does it lead to the "youre going to die in X years.......maybe" stuff. I'm not medicalfag

>>852772

The immune system is hyper aggressive and cares not for your soft heartedness.

>>852775

>This implies that cancer isn't a recent phenomena (since we evolved cells to stop it)

Laughing my fucking ass of that you think cancer hasn't been around since the very first multicellular life forms. It's a phenomenon intrinsic to the nature of DNA and cell replication.

>>852782

>Laughing my fucking ass of

Whatever, enjoy not having cancer then fag.

>>852780

I guess they won't portray inmunologic diseases like Type 1 diabetes or celiacy, with your inmune system wanting to destroy your own body in a Coup d'etat.

>>852846

Sympathetic antoganist is a trope in shonen-fighting anime.

Also note that cancer will come back because cancer is just flawed cell replication. The cancer you hear about in medicine is when the cancer cells hit critical mass.

>>852874

Speak for yourself, I'd very much like to hear what >>>/ck/ has to say about these sandwiches and germ-soups.

>>852878

>ellipses

>no proofreading

I don't know who this cancer is you're referring to, but you clearly belong with them.

This last scene hit me pretty hard for some reason. The cell genocide has to happen to save the body, but they are cells still and don't know what they're doing wrong. One day maybe we'll have medicine to repair these cells so NK-Cell doesn't have to murder them.

>>852906

More like a lesson on how a fully efficient society ought to deal with deadbeats who don't pull their weight and suck up extra resources.

>>852775

Cancer has been around since the dawn of man. It's just in the past we had more free radicals floating around the body to help keep cancer cells in check. Turns out ODing on vitamin C and other antioxidants is a great way to increase your risk of cancer.

>>852909

>He doesn't want NEETs and workaholics to peacefully coexist

What are you, a traitor?

>>852775

For the most part we tended to die to other things first, when it was actually cancer it wasn't always identifiable either. Some people estimate half of all humans ever born died from malaria but that's not a particularly provable theory.

>>852924

>Some people estimate half of all humans ever born died from malaria

Well I guess if you consider niggers human?

Joking aside, malaria is a nasty drug that's infested population centers since the dawn of mankind so that wouldn't surprise me.

>>853004

So when is someone going to make vanilla doujins with RBC?

>>853105

I knew a guy that took three malarias and he went aaa aaa aaaaa and his head explodeded.

>>853105

>Drug

And that's why I shouldn't post while sleepy.

>>853099

Red blood cells sacrifice their entire reproductive system in order to carry oxygen and nutrients their whole life.

>>853112

Qt red blood cells die for you every day

>>853145

That's scientifically untrue, platelets do not grow up.

>>853174

This, they just die after ~8-9 days.

So after some reflection, I feel that the cancer episode should have been the season finale. How are they going to top it off after that, /a/?

>>853186

AIDS

>>853186

If you don't mind getting spoiled The author's made 2 cancer cell arcs, this was just the first.

Cancer seemed so incredibly human. Then again, humanity in itself could be described as a cancer infesting the planet.

>>853296

Probably to reinforce that cancer is a naturally occurring thing so in a way its the most human thing to cause problems for the body, short of the the host hating the body.

>>853211

>spoiler

Given the last scenes of neutrophil talking to cancer I have a feeling the 2nd cancer arc is leukemia caused by that cancer cell lying dormant or injecting dormant DNA or something and turning neutrophilkun into a monster. It would explain the "you win for today" statement right before death

>>853318

So the picture is actually somewhat correct if you go from right to left?

>>853318

>becomes an ara

No, the ara gives birth to lots and lots of platelets. Like thousands.

>>853318

So if I understand this correctly, platelets starts as a baby, turns into a cake loli and then grows (more like shrinks) into a loli cake.

Truly the body is a wondrous entity.

>>853327

Megakaryocyte produces platelets, it doesn't become one.

>>853329

Its more like giving birth then dying right?

>>853338

Not necessarily, supposedly they can also release platelets over time. Inevitably they eventually die, but it's not always directly associated with the release.

Platelets bud off of megakaryocytes. They only take some membrane and granules with them.

t. Medfag

>>853124

Enucleation is effective cell death.

All of the potential is sucked out of an Erythroblast, slowly and deliberately and in many steps. Eventually, almost nothing of the original is left, and a subservient single-purpose zombie Erythrocyte pops out, pumped full of a bunch of garbage to makes their job easier.

If anything, they're the ultimate metaphor for wageslavery that ties the entire show's allegorical framework together, not for loli fucking.

>>852918

He's talking about shitskins, don't worry.

>>854090

Ackshually, those are hammer&sickle-cells, trying to steal away some precious platelets during the turmoil.

Probably for some bloodmagick.

>>854115

>hammer&sickle-cells

Isn't sickle cell anemia mostly a nigger thing? So those are basically communist nigger cells? Where's NK when you need her?

>>854207

>Isn't sickle cell anemia mostly a nigger thing?

Yes. The disease variant (2 copies of the gene) is something that will most likely come from a nigger.

>>853479

It's a fetish Anon, it's not making any sense if you don't have it.

>>854207

>>854226

Fun fact: Sickle cell anemia is byproduct of evolutionary adaptation. Being having only one copy of the gene helps you resist malaria better.

>>854254

>Sickle cell anemia is byproduct of evolutionary adaptation

Yes, places like Africa that have selective pressures due to ineffective health and medicine allowed for mutations like a misshapen blood cell to actually be useful and at least get them to sexual maturity.

>>852739

I just wanted to say that I stopped watching the anime.

>>854690

Was it the faces? The cancer episode?

>>854694

It seems an animated manga is not as if it were animation, the colors are beautiful (especially in the brush) but beyond that they have nothing, to addition the interpretation of Kana Hanazawa leaves much to be desired.

The manga entertained me because of the character designs and the constant infodumping, there were things I did not know.

>>855188

Red blood cells have a hard life.

A very cute episode.

>'I will be patrolling the entire body.'

>>855232

>the ENTIRE body

When do they show the episode when the host body gets an errection/puffy vulva?

>>854694

>>854690

I stoppe watching it because they clearly cater to female watcher with this series, and I am not one.

>>855267

I realized it early on. And I DID watch Ore Monogatari.

The problem is, there wasn't a cute girl being on screen in a relevant matter long enough at Hataraku (unlike Rinko, who was just my type of girl, and not just a silent clumy self insert for women), and only dropped it like 5 episodes in, when "monster of the week in shounen battle manner" writing killed all my hope for any appeal.

>>855281

>"monster of the week in shounen battle manner" writing killed all my hope for any appeal.

I mean that's fine anon, but what else were you expecting? The only way I can see someone making a manga/anime about the human body like this is either an Osmosis Jones "monster of the week" or a a slice of life about each cell in a "job of the week" style. You're not gonna have some special plot moving forward when it's an anime about the everyday lives of cells as they move around the body doing their daily tasks.

>>855290

Blood cells that aren't doing their job correctly have to be removed. Some can do it themselves through Eryptosis but the immune system can induce death as well normally, old blood cells are dealt with by macrophages in the liver or spleen.

>>855274

We're gonna need a webm of that scene. And of the one back when she encountered the Ceder Pollen.

>>855283

I wanted the episodes to dwell a little more about the cells' everyday life, and the episodes be a little less about the stupid battles in a hot blooded and gory manner, focusing on the wrong characters.

>>855352

>her ahoge is in the shape of a sickle cell

>>855352

>>856059

>Constantly gets stuck

>Follows the wrong routes

>Blocks up blood flow in one way routes

Oh dear. WBC killing RBC/fighting off macrophages until he dies episode when?

>>855187

>>855188

>>855189

>>855190

She takes FUCKING TWO MONTHS to make a single cycle

I can't wait for the EBOLA arc, you newfaggots gonna love it!

>>856772

>Snap! This is going to my cringe compilation

>>853484

>>853473

I bet a pathogen did this

>>857610

Second image here. >>858177

>>858180

Can any germ ever HOPE to defeat the invincible combination of a loli Platelet riding a Neutrophil into battle?

School in the lymph nodes is rough let me tell ya. Darn near on par with Spartans.

kinda wish there were cells with guns other than the antibody gun B cell has

This latest episode was inaccurate as fuck and made me cringe hard.

>>858421

Yes it was accurate shut up.

>>855267

>expand their horizons tremendously and appreciate a much broader range of anime

Total agreement but it does sometimes lead down a very slippery slope. For me josei and shojo anime, self inserting as the girl of course, opened up a whole new world of character tropes. I thought the male character tropes were fun and before long I was reading yaoi and genderbender while nurturing a small interest in otome games. The stuff I learned there transitioned really well into yuri but I could never see big girls as romantic interests so I wound up at /ll/ and youjo anime. The big takeaway from this is an appreciation for all the aforementioned genres and not losing interest when a story has elements of any or all of them. In short watching/reading/playing more is always the solution to the "i dont like this" problem.

>>858421

It was a waste of time is what it was. Flashbacks are shitty enough already but a full blown episode being a flashback can suck dick.

>>859649

Aside from those scenes with monocyte before the reveal, this episode felt very lacking

Medicalfag can a monocyte really differentiate into a macrophage then the reverse just because its in/out of the blood vessel? That seems overpowered given how things usually are in cellular biology.

>>859688

>>859724

It's mainly a naming distinction. Like they showed, when they're in the blood vessels they're monocytes, when they get out of the blood vessel into tissue, they get a pile of different names depending on where exactly they are (and slightly different functioning). But apparently they can also go back and re/dedifferentiate as well, although it's not so common.

Monocytes do differentiate into macrophages, though I thought it was when they went into different tissues, which is technically outside the blood vessel. Though I’m not sure if they revert back. ill admit this episode had me looking up some things because I thought it was ridiculous or too outlandish

>>859768

And what's the deal with Monocyte's weird behaviour?

>>859812

If you mean the hazmat suit and such, I think that's just an anime thing, I don't know if they change something major about the outer cell layers during/after diapedesis. The disappearing into walls is the anime equivalent of diapedesis, but normally a monocyte only does it once in its life.

>>856628

Platelets is for headpats and giving a cookie to, not for sexual.

>>859821

With a dick?

>>852843

Closest you'll get to that is in the black version that has the immune system going insane from being overworked

>>859886

Proof of this? We need proof or everything you just said is a lie!!

>>854694

Even though I've been downloading new episodes, I haven't watched any since the cedar pollen episode (5). I think my biggest issue was that I was just bored with it being too predictable. I like the character designs and how it educates about so many facets of the human body's operation, but the episodes on the whole tend to be rather predictable.

>episode introduces platelets and describes how they show up to repair wounds

>later on, the body is wounded and the platelets show up to repair the wound

>episode introduces naive T-cell as never having encountered an antigen and a flu invasion

>later on, naive T-cell is introduced to an antigen and the body fights a flu invasion

>episode introduces eosinophil as multiplying in response to allergies and parasites

>later on, a parasite shows up that eosinophil is uniquely suited to fight

The plot of the entire episode became easy to see after about five minutes, and everything else just wasn't captivating enough to keep me very entertained. There's no character development either. All the cells act exactly as they're described to act, which is understandable for this premise, but makes it easier to see where everything is going. Something like the naive T-cell becoming an effector isn't even really character development - it's what the naive T-cell was meant to do all along.

A lot of the problem has to do with these occasional pauses to explain what the different cells or infections are. They basically give away the script for entire characters or episodes and don't leave much room for nuance. Moments like cells pouring boiling water to simulate fever or rockets being fired to simulate sneezing both educate and keep the pace of the episode. The introductions spoil everything in an uninteresting way, so I stopped keeping up.

>>859886

Quite the logical leap of interaction there.

>>859724

>>859688

From my understanding, a monocyte is just an inactivated macrophage. When it enters an area of inflammation, all the cytokines flying around activate them into proper macrophages.

In reality, we don't really give a shit about monocytes unless they are part of a pathology like Acute Monocytic Leukemia (which destroys your gums). I ignore them on every cbc I get. The boys over at heme/onc could tell you a lot more about them than I can.

>>859886

Serotonin activates platelets and is a vasoconstrictor, allowing easier platelet aggregation. This man is an agent of the thrombocytopenia and wants you to use up all your platelets and bleed to death. Don't listen to his lies.

t. Medfag

>>860044

Thanks, medfag.

Correcting lies is always appreciated.

>>860044

I think he's just a haematophile. Or a haemato-pedophile?

Either way, I hope he gets haemophilia somehow!

>>859786

I thought NK cells are revitalized with hearty laughter, though?

I wanna see how a mosquito or another blood-sucking insect would look like from their perspective.

>>861546

A giant tube bursts from the sky and vomits out a goo that makes all the platlets' coagulation factors short out so they can't make a clot, however, the platelets don't realize this and still gather a bunch of RBCs to use but then realize their coagulation factors aren't working. Once all the RBCs are crowded around, it starts vacuuming everything up and all the RBCs get sucked in which leaves a ghost town filled with histamine.

It's like a UFO abducting people.

>Global warming

Fuck.

>White blood cell protecting the red blood cell girls as they hold platelets

Maximum patriarchy

>5000 hours of bacillus shittus laughing and gloating

A 15min format wouldn't have hurt this series, I must say.

>>861888

Ten or even five minutes would be enough. Just cut out all the unneeded shit, like the generic as fuck germs that never shut up as you said. They spend minutes going "gahaha I'm a bad guy and now I'm going to kill you and do a bad thing!".

>>861908

I think 15 minutes would work fine, maybe 12 minutes, but any less than that and it removes a lot of the plot and context, and would require walls of text.

>>861717

Is it intentional that in the first image, the water is coming out form the tip of a syringe? I haven't watched yet.

They really ran out of budget this episode didn't they?

>>862056

It probably wouldn't look like anything since there aren't enough cute girls for Japan to care about it.

Unless you make it a fujoshit show about a Matoran girl constantly getting into trouble and being saved by her harem of Toa.

>>862470

I want to make Ms. Hepatocyte feel better. Glad I don't drink often, unlike my dad.

>>861716

Is that blood cell taking off her shirt the closest thing this show has had to fanservice?

>>862611

Yes. If you want that, Hataraku Saibou BLACK has fan-service.

The Keshouban invasion has begun...

Backwards hat-kun!

Chapter 26: https://imgur.com/a/Ewt3j3B

Chapter 27: https://imgur.com/a/MgYx9hv

>hemorrhagic shock

I thought to myself "this is going to be a massacre".

It's actually a fucking cataclysm.

Where has gone my cute and fun series?

>>863285

>You will never tell your eosinophils how cute and cool they are

This is a wound no amount of platelets can cover.

>>863288

The sense of national pride was strong after the state of emergency announcement. The cells make a better society than recent humans. Is this a case of the whole being worth less than the sum of its parts?

>>863533

The thing is that cells HAVE to work and fulfill their task or else they die along with the rest. Their sole and only purpose is to do a certain task and then die after they're exhausted because they have no sense of . The only equivalent for a society is a system where propaganda and brain-washing rob the individual of their sense of individuality and push them into pre-definite roles from birth to death without any choice or say on the matter.

Live. Work. Die.

As much as certain pessimistic eccentric people might say regarding the current state of society, we're not that far in the deep end yet.

>>863539

My post contains shit English and forgotten words, because speaking of work, I'm currently at it and I'm tired as well.

>because they have no sense of self

>No matter what certain pessimistic eccentric people might say regarding

Now, I'm gonna go die in a hole.

>>863539

>>863541

>>863533

I hope you realize that real cells aren't independent sentient beings. The characters portrayed in this anime are dramatized for entertainment purposes.

Man the first half of this episode was so slow it was a drag. The anon that said this series would've benefited from being a ten minute short was right.

In an acute hemorrhage like this, the body would get desperate and start kicking out reticulocytes from the bone marrow to help the RBCs carry oxygen. Imagine if there were little RBCs with their nuclei hats running around this apocalypse landscape trying not to cry as everyone dies around them.

>this clumsy baka has been to the ER twice over the course of only 3 episodes

This show was so fun to watch every week. The little badges on the red blood cells shows the blood type and cell number. I just realized that when the transfused blood had O on their hat. This may have been propaganda to blood donation companies but it was good propaganda. Your platelets will get to play with other peoples platelets.

>>863601

The dramatization makes it fun.

>>864889

Go get flushed down a kidney memed platelet there is a new platelet in town.

>>864964

I liked how they had a different design for the transfused cells, it was a nice touch. I’m also hopeful for a season two. There’s still plenty of things they could cover.

>>865886

When the manga has another 11 chapters.

13 episodes covered 18 chapters

>>863276

Full version is here...

>>865065

I loved how they had funny accents for the transfused cells. I guess the moral of this story is: donate blood or else RBC-chan will die.

>>874000

They better be handing out educational pamphlets.

>>874000

That suit belongs could work wonders in Zi-O

はたらく細胞OP

Colorul version is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJem74hkXKU

>>882346

shut up and take my money Good Smile!!