/a/ - Animu & Mango

It should be good hopefully however most anons do not know the horrors of modern capeshit so I would say be skeptical

>>818052

It's the main reason /a/ and /co/ shouldn't be distinct boards.

The other reason is that between the two, there might be enough good shows to stop all the angry shitposting.

>>818058

And you assume this isn't my end-goal because?

>>818059

Why don't you make a board then cum-guzzler?

>>818062

Because then I'd want it to succeed, not be a horrible clash of creeds and opinions that form a chaotic mess that's fun to watch, but you'd never consider joining in.

>>818057

>>818058

That would just be toonami

>>818057

You cannot deny Batman Beyond had major influences of anime.

>>818070

And Big O had major influences from Batman TAS. What a crazy fucked up world we live in.

>>818070

>>818080

There was an episode of Batman The Animated Series where some big anime guy worked on if I recall . Robin saves a Japanese girl and gets a crush on her but then its revealed shes actually a piece of clayface that developed its own personality and only for Clayface to capture and forcibly form back with him

>>818084

>He doesn't know

Batman the Animated Series is honorary anime. Several episodes were animated in part in Japan, by Spectrum Animation, an anime studio, including the movie, Mask of Phantasm, and several of the best episodes including that one you shared. Their autism over Mr. Freeze's helmet brought them to ruin in Heart of Ice.

They then formed I.G. Production.

Embed related is anime.

>>818093

Also, fuck Batman. If he really were a heroic vigilante, he'd help Mr. Freeze take down the kike who tried to kill his wife.

>>818093

>honorary anime because it was animated in Japan

But anon, anime is animated in Korea!

>>818093

My rule of thumb in determining if it's anime/western/french/whatever is this:

If the director, producer, screenwriter, designer/artist(the one who designs how the characters look), the one who does the keynotes, are mostly western, then it's a western cartoon and belongs on /co/, if they are mostly japanese, then it's an anime and it belongs on /a/. From which country the army of animators came from, is irrelevant since they have to produce an animation with the characters that look like the ones, the designer produced, and that has animation which corresponds with the keynotes. So just because some anime is animated by koreans, doesn't make it korean animation, it's still anime, because it was directed, produced, designed and written by japanese, and thus will have the style and spirit of a japanese production.

Also a problem with "honorary anime", is that if taken to it's logical conclusion, we will end up having 80s G.I.Joe threads and Thundercats threads.

>>818143

Then was The Transformers movie a Korean animation because it was directed by a Korean or anime because it was animated in Japan?

Was the TV series anime because it's based on Japanese toy lines and animated by Toei?

>>818147

I did say mostly and not all, and there are cases with a joint production between two countries, like the Adventures of the Little Mermaid(not the Disney one) series made by both French and Japanese.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventures_of_the_Little_Mermaid

Also just because something is based on something, doesn't make it western or anime, you don't say that Samurai Jack is anime or that Berserk is western.

Lastly, I admit that my rule isn't perfect, and there will always be ambiguities, but I think it's good enough for at least 90% or cartoons an anime.

>>818143

>>818147

Lets not get into Western Transformers and Japanese Transformers becasue that entire thing is one big clusterfuck.

>>818200

That's because /co/ is so utterly frustrated with modern animation that they've forgotten why they should love western animation in the first place. Combining with /a/ would force them to put their pride on the line and defend Western animation to the point that they'd go out and find shows and comics or parts of shows and comics they actually liked.

At the same time, /a/ needs to learn that 2D Girls aren't everything. Also it'd probably give that Loud House faggot someone to talk about Leni with.

I have some reservations about the animation. I like the Jojo OPs same as anyone else but I'm not sure how I feel about an entire hour and a half(maybe more, maybe less?) of that animation.

>>818052

It will be shit

>>818143

I think it can be agreed that this counts for /a/, it ticks enough boxes so to speak. I'm also kind of excited for it just from the trailer and the ridiculousness of it. That does not mean anything Batman goes, but it's like how 4/v/ ended up adopting Touhou to an extent despite it being made for 4/jp/.

>Batman Ninja

>he's wearing Samurai gear

Sounds fantastic OP

>>818052

Was it produced in Japan or America? If Former- Anime.

>>818057

If we want to argue over semantics then I'll admit it's getting harder to do so in the early 2010s with Japanese doing Japanese Animated Adaptations of Western comics. However I think we can easily consider something as anime if it's produced and animated by Japanese or co-produced/co-animated by Japanese.

If it isn't like it's animated by Americans, Chinese or Koreans then shove it into /co/. Anime should be defined as Japanese Animation.

>>818255

>2010s with Japanese doing Japanese Animated Adaptations of Western comics.

It's not like Japan has never produced anime based on western novels or stories.

>>818244

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>>818204

You lot need to learn to turn that autism towards more important things like character development, Worldbuilding and setting details, autistic magic/alchemy/combat systems, and comfiness that doesn't depend on cute girls in the scene.

>>818323

No. Cute girls are, at best, a side-dish, and a show dedicated entirely to them, or around them, is basically junk food, candy or cake. It all gets too sugary and rots you from the inside out. You need a more balanced diet.

>>818340

Chips/crackers and the like that are salty and delicious, but really, really crunchy and sharp so that they cut up the inside of your mouth, or they're just ridiculously spicy.

I'm guessing LoGH or Votoms would be big, hearty stews then if we're doing this comparison.

SAO or Naruto would be a plate of cheap cup noodles and ketchup passed off as spaghetti. Probably calling it sketty to boot

>>818310

Is there any cure for this level of faggotry or is death the only option?

>>818340

An American going to the United Kuckdom and ordering a Vindaloo from an Indian take-out, quick to get, painful, and you really hope nobody saw you.

>>818286

>trap abuse.webm

>>818354

No, it may be hard, but one day you too will be able to appreciate a good story regardless of the girls in it.

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>>818093

>using jewtube and not webm

Does no one realize Hooktube is a thing?

>>818452

>>818442

What's with these pornscam posters? It's like some poorly misguided attempt to eliminate threads they don't like by using a dynamic IP address to draw the vols attention and get the thread deleted.

>>818201

Well said for once maido.

>>818286

Where's all your meme tabs, anon? If you're going to show your browser, you might as well put some effort in. Like, "How to make webm" google search bookmarked, Dragon Dildo amazon pages, a stream of Boku no Pico, etc.

>>818201

Who let the nigger in? Why would /a/ care about 3dpd, when its all about 2d?

>>818255

>something as anime if it's produced and animated by Japanese or co-produced/co-animated by Japanese.

So, Transformers is anime, then. It's settled.

>>818509

It's a unofficial part of the Brave series

>>818503

>and so on

>zizek narration kicks in

>>818499

You act as if we don't find fault in 2d girls. Except we do, which is why you can find anons talking about "worst girls" or those who act like 3dpd.

>>818560

Finally, someone gets it right! /co/ is a salty pile of shit, and /a/ has the wretched curse of being too far engaged with anime to actually appreciate it. The equal but opposite shittiness of each board would complement each other nicely. /tg/ is ideal.

>>818563

>being too far engaged with anime to actually appreciate it

Anon, we're the ones who actually still enjoy our hobby, unlike nearly every other board.

>>818435

Director had a very confused sense of direction. I also recall that in the Nolan Trilogy Batman was trained as a Ninja by a kill all, nihilistic League of Shadows so you can say this anime takes it to another level.

>>818324

Never has a truer sentence been spoken.

Cute girls are a cancer of anime.

>>818201

I fully agree with this anon.

I don't like it. The action is great but everything else is sub par and a lot of the time I feel like it was originally meant to be a video game.

>>818610

>implying moeshit is good

>>818057

There is glaring difference culturally between anime and western shit, and it corresponds to the differences in preference between /a/ and /co/ users. I don't want to see shitty Marvel/DC/Hollywood posts where I come to talk about animu, and I'm confident I'm not the only one. So fuck off with that.

>>818599

>>818324

>Cute girls are a cancer of anime.

I think you are making the mistake of confusing the purity of 2D with the intrinsically cancerous nature of the meatspace we have been banished to. That we ruin, misinterpret, or are destroyed by a pure source says nothing of the source itself.

>>818244

ironic you'd use cromartie, as there are no cute girls in there beside maeda's mom

>>818080

Considering Sunrise worked on TAS it makes a lot of sense.

The Punisher > Batman

>>821162

Did you watch the Japanese dub with an actual translation? The subtitles provided with the movie are just a transcript of the English dub which is "maybe 90% different".

https://archive.fo/FwjWX

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/why-batman-ninja-in-english-is-so-different-from-t/1100-6458513/

>>821182

No, the subs are just the English dub transcript, just like you said, but most of the context of the spoken word can be understood if you are not completely bad at Japanese. I am still waiting for (un)official subs for the Japanese audio.

>>821182

>The subtitles provided with the movie are just a transcript of the English dub

Disgusting. I will wait a year before attempting to find a watchable version of this.

>>818052

I don't know why Japanese animators have such trouble with 3d animation when Japanese game animators have being doing it fine for years.

>>821202

Because 3D in anime is a way to cut spending actual money to hire animators.

When game 3D animators are actually getting payed...

>>821182

>change 90% of the content

Localization is such bullshit.

>>821202

>I don't know why Japanese animators have such trouble with 3d animation

This post on /animu/ pretty much explains it: >>>/animu/9273

>Also, there are two other problems with CG that people rarely bring up. The first is the reason why (Using another series as an example) RWBY fight scenes were better in Poser (What Monty used) than they are in Maya (The "industry standard"): >>>/rwby/36195

<Poser had the ability to "frameblast". In other words Monty could set up the entire scene, Animate multiply characters in a single space, and move the camera, Basically at final render quality in near real time without the background and scrub quickly back and forth along the timeline.

<If i were to hazard a guess. Monty's method of animation looked so good, and could be done detailed quickly. Because he could instantly watch his own animations back in near production quality in real time at anypoint in the process without waiting for costly render times. The camera work was so good and the scenes felt so alive because they were animated as a single set peice thanks to the quick iteration capability of the tools.

>Because have how "standard" 3D programs do not render the animation anything close to realtime, the production company ends up relying primarily on storyboards. And, a company will not see if anything actually looks wrong until the final render comes out, and, by then, the question is if they want to leave it as is and move on or fix the problem until it looks good enough and waste more time.

>The second thing I'd like to bring up is that companies purposely lower the framerate for CG. Using 3D software means they can output series in 60 fps or even more, but what they end up doing is purposely lowing the framerate to 15 fps, and it just looks terrible. Need look no further than shows like Knights of Sidonia and Ajin to see how bad it is. However, the entire reason they end up doing this is because they attempting to still make it feel like a traditional anime.

And, as a number of Anons have pointed out, Japan never used to have this problem when they were making 3D series a decade ago (Viper's Creed, Transformers, Kirby, F-Zero), so why the reason why 3D anime is shit appears to be a recent problem.

>>821182

>There isn't even that much dialog

No shit, that makes it good writing. I fucking hate the "Western" process. It's almost like there's a foreign element to our industry that doesn't know the first thing about artistic creation.

Proper subs found

>#!tw1zgBLL!Jlpy26oz7AHAQ_GMCtCU-1Uu7So4CJCrUC3BgLzH3uU

>>821274

Aside from the typeface, is there any actual difference with these subs? I watched a few scenes side by side and they were exactly the same.

>>821573

>especially with the [spoiler] and [spoiler].

I thought missionary Bruce was amazing too.

>ninja batman without the baseball

Why though?

I was expecting the kabuki scream but it didn't delivered. Also, where the hell is Bane? after the one month skip.

This surpassed all my expectations.

So how bad is this? I don't watch capeshit, so I expect it to be awful.

>>818052

The character designs are pretty good, except for batman, or rather, batman's head. He just looks kind of bad to me, particularly without his mask on. His chin looks too big.

>>821883

He got himself caught. I don't know what was the next step in his master plan.

>>822101

It's actually really fun if you like dumb action flicks. It tricks you into thinking it'll be pretty toned down because it's western capeshit, then the action starts and your seeing shots like you would in a battle shonen anime, then the giant robot castles come in.

>>818070

There is an episode of Batman Beyond where the black girl (can't remember her name) is dressed in the same outfit as Ed from Cowboy Bebop. Keep in mind that at the time CB had only been out for a year or two. There were definitely some weebs working on batman cartoons.

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>>818084

Surprised no one posted the back to back situation screenshots of Roger Smith being handed the tomatoe from Rosewater and Batman meeting the scientist who created the evil AI and is now a tomatoe farmer.