/a/ - Animu & Mango

>>787871

>"without getting the cultural barrier"

>"produce good works that will make an impression on many people, regardless of nationality"

Everything is fucked.

Tell me /a/, what is it that Netflix could include in anime that would disgust you the most?

>>787871

>This is Netflix directly going to the studios, and leading the entire production.

Great. A lot of shit anime like Violet Evergarden where its some generic story with lots of wasted money will be coming in the next few years. Subtitles will naturally be shit. May as well say they are catering to normalfags so when that sports event happens people can say "oh I learned about this anime thing in aykeybae and its on netflix so i can watch at home!"

I want to crawl in a hole and disappear with my waifu for eternity.

>>787876

>Violet Evergarden

Forgot to include Yuri on Ice in this

>>787875

Feminism

>>787875

Neo Yokio?

>>787873

This was always a risk with the production committee system.

The studios get only paid a fixed sum and the rest of the money goes to the committee.

The majority of the sum is used for the production, with a small ammount remaining as profits.

If there are production issues, the studio risks to make loses irrelevant of how the anime sells.

Sometimes the studio is part of the committee, but generally just a low ranking member, meaning they get few of the profits.

The advantage of this was that the risk is spread between the committee members, and the studio suffers barely any damage, when the anime flops.

Some studios decided to take the risk and lead the committee (Kyoto Animation), but most studios didn't have the courage to take this step.

Now Netflix comes in, and just goes "we're gonna pay for everything you want to produce, and we're paying a lot".

This makes the studios instantly jump on this opportunity, and allows them to create original anime which would normally be rejected by the committee.

>>787876

>Violet Evergarden

Netflix was a licensor for Violet Evergarden.

Violet Evergarden was just a product of Kyoto Animation's shitty production philosophy (we're gonna apdapt our shitty light novels).

Deleted and reposted to fix some typos.

>>787879

Holy fuck, what will they do with the cute girls?

The best things which could result out of this, would be an Aniplex/Kadokawa and maybe Bandai partnership.

I can see the big distributers partnerning up to make an streaming site to counter Netflix.

There's also the fact that Netflix runs on borrowed money, if they lose customers to other live action streaming sites, then there's a risk that the company goes bankrupt.

Fox and Disney already pulled out of Netflix, the best case scenario would be that Netflix is dead in 5 years, and this are just the dying breaths of a giants.

>>787887

Pretty much nothing, none of the listed studios does CGDCT.

And I can't see established distributers like Kadokawa playing ball with Netflix.

This will definitly cause a counter response from the big players in the Japanese otaku industry.

There's also the fact that China likes CGDCT, and China is more important than the West.

>>787874

Can't be worse than Gemini of the Meteor, if they ever decide to bring it back. Right?

>>787887

You've seen all those tumblr redrawings of anime girls, right?

>>787875

Tell me, why do you watch anime instead of western cartoons and series?

So, where's that apologetic imbecile from the Violet Evergarden thread?

>>787891

Netflix are the creative geniuses behind "Dear White People". You tell me.

>>787911

The fuck is Dear White People?

>>787912

My dear summer child...

It's what happens when you don't send leftists to concentration camps.

Netflix is connected to Soros.

>>787909

I am here, I started the thread.

Nothing that I said wasn't a fact /pol/tard, VEG is just licensed by Netflix.

>>787916

Not simply connected, he injected a shitload of money into them. These are the same filthy, liberal subhumans that ruined Punisher. All they had to do was make a show about a white man killing niggers and spics, with the odd Guido, chink and Russian, and they managed to fuck that up too.

So is anime dead? Is Japan compromised? First the Olympics and now this. It's been fun.

>>787914

See this is what I mean, the token fatties.

I don't know, maybe it won't be so bad, Japan is legendary for their ability to route around foreign cultural pressures. Technically they have very strict censorship laws, but you'd never know it from browsing the panda, for instance. It's definitely not a good thing though.

>>787871

>it will enable them to get more chance to make their works reach to more anime fans living outside Japan through Netflix's global platform streaming.

If they need netflix to find more anime, they aren't "anime fans".

>>787921

>maybe it won't be so bad

Famous last words. With Jews involved it will be worse than anything you could possibly imagine. The only way this won't end in complete disaster is if it dies a miserable death early on. Just look at Western comics to see the end result of the corruption.

China already views Western NGOs and cultural output as intellectual poison and takes steps to limit exposure of their citizens to it while simultaneously cracking down on any attempt at establishing a foothold. The West has become cultural poison to other people.

So much for "anime is untouchable". Anime will be dead after the Olympics.

>>787929

What will happen during the Olympics?

>>787930

Censoring and removing things. All eyes will be on Japan during that time.

>>787927

>>787928

Well, this is relevant for the discussion, as Netflix is a Jewish operation, with their higher executives and sponsors.

It's not like the term "Jew" is being used figuratively, but it's used literally.

Also, one of the many fears of the TPP, newfags, is that it would eliminate a rule in Japan which dictates that the vast majority of a company must be National-owned.

With the death of TPP, the scheduled "foreign takeover" plans ended, but now Netflix found a way to circumvent it.

And yes, their motives are politico-cultural, as Anime itself isn't any cashcow as we can see with the struggling studios already (they wouldn't even need to accept this "partnership" if they were successful or grossing big, it's a fact that, financially speaking, the Anime and Manga industry in Japan is in a steady decline).

>>787930

2ch is really on edge over the Olympics. There's already the UN screeching at them that anime is CP and tourists getting triggered over seeing Manji on the temples, it's only going to get worse the closer the Olympics get.

>>787933

Why did they even agree to host the Olympics?

>>787934

Olympics were supposed to be a show of force, and it seems that Japanese politicians of the old kind still think in these lines, when it's clear that it became a cash draining irrelevancy today.

Anime is dead. Where do we turn to now?

>>787934

I don't even know why the stupid thing even exists, at this point it's a competition between pharma corporations to see who can produce the best cheat pills.

>>787929

>>787937

Stop being so dramatic. Anime may be tainted a bit, but most of it will still be fine for the foreseeable future.

>>787939

Wait for the Olympics. Anime isn't invincible.

>>787940

Loli will be a thing of the past now.

>>787941

That's the thing. Anime and manga had more barriers to protect it than comics and cartoons. It's that it took this long for the protective barriers to break. Japan will be compromised as well after the Olympics. This board will be a board of despair.

Anime is declining, time to read manga.

This is the future you chose.

It makes me sick on how Jews are creeping into anime. They'll force in their agendas and ruin what we love about it.

This affects only Bones,WIT and IG. This will likely not affect already decided productions i.e. AoT S3, BnHA S3.

One can assume that the parternship goes fully into effect at the end of 2018, from that point onward it should be safe to assume that all anime from said studios are going to be Netflix exclusive.

The end result of this wil very likely be lots of originals by Netflix.

Currently Kadokawa,Aniplex,CGDCT, and even adaptations are likely to be safe. This move gives Netflix complete production control and the standart anime distributers won't play ball with Netflix.

The primary cash flow of anime is in merchandise, and sales of the source material. Netflix's binge model is a clear negative for companies targeting the otaku market.

Let's be honest what "good" originals were created by the current Bones,WIT or IG? Netflix will just create badly written edgy originals, which ironically will be eaten up by all the /pol/tards who are currently complaining.

>>787871

>high quality anime works from Japan without getting the language/cultural barrier.

>anime without the culture

Then what's the point?

Why even call it anime?

>>787966

>The Western anime fandom is filled with Leftists for the most part.

Citation fucking needed

It's depressing to watch not only the entire world get taken over by leftist "sensibilities" and censorship, but also the people who are being hurt by it defending it. People who lack any and all ability to see overall trends lashing out at those who point it out to them. It's been happening for a long time too, so those in denial are just lobotomised frogs, slowly being boiled. Remember that time, now several years back, when some anime OST got cancelled because muslims complained about some track? Japan has been getting invaded by western leftism and identity politics for a long time, but every time it's pointed out people screech in denial.

>Robert Roy, the vice president of Netflix, commented as follows:

>It would be grateful if Netflix can contribute to the development of Japan's anime culture, besides it, global streaming beyond countries and languages."

They're outright stating that they want to "develop" Japan's anime culture. It doesn't take a genius to understand that he's saying that they want to mold it like western, hyper sensitive culture.

>>787959

To assume that the influence will stop there is extremely naive. Even if we assume that the other companies have no ties, and will not get ties, to western companies, they also follow trends. If Netflix and partner companies end up making money, which is entirely possible given how large the audience is compared to just Japan, the rest are likely to attempt to imitate it in order to make more money.

>>787971

Everyone says this, but are there actually any other Jews involved other than Soros?

>>787972

Soros is enough of a Jew to warrant concern.

>>787871

>and for Netflix members, it will lead them to watch and enjoy high quality anime works from Japan without getting the language/cultural barrier.

>without the cultural barrier

What's that supposed to mean? Cancerous/ loose/ dub-transcript-tier translations? Anime without the /jp/ culture? SJW content like others mentioned? Anime set in a multi-cultural setting? I don't get it.

>>787975

It's probably the same reason as why Nintendo of America is sending people to Japanese studios. To "soften cultural differences", that is, making it so people can't point out the prison school and maidragon-esque bullshit western localizers pull. You can't point out stupid political and puritan changes if it gets injected before the product is even out.

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>>787972

Soros is a propagandist and finesses corpotism and far leftist/liberal ideologies. He has, he financed shit like antifa, gender study unis(look at the recent shit Hungary) and all kinds of media pr propaganda. The guy is a fucking nationaly recognized in some countries, namely Russia. He is a tumor and everything he gives money is bound to be shit.

>>787981

>You can't point out stupid political and puritan changes if it gets injected before the product is even out.

Sure you can.

Prison School is an adaptation from a manga.

A rewrite of the text of to refer to a contemporary political issue will be noticed.

>>787985

They're pushing a narrative that source material doesn't matter though. Just look at anime reviewers like Gigguk. He keeps spamming that shit in his channel like he's trying to indoctrinate western fans.

>>787965

So dummies think it's anime.

>>787985

By you, maybe.

By thousands of brainless normalfags, no.

Whose opinion do you think is worth more? In actual currency?

>>787966

Naw, they're just the loud ones. Just gotta be louder than them even if that means spamming positive messages into some inbox or whatever twice as hard.

>>787986

>look at anime reviewers

No.

I'd rather discuss anime with random strangers on a bus.

>>787987

>By thousands of brainless normalfags, no.

And they're going to notice that the subtitles don't match the spoken word?

>>787990

Anon, I'm not asking you to watch them and believe their bullshit I'm just saying that they're pushing this narrative to dismiss anyone from using the source material to point out the obvious flaws of an anime.

>>787990

It doesn't matter what you want. What matters is that the shilling has started and normalfags are being indoctrinated. And no matter how much you dislike them they are the mass and they bring the money like good little corporate studges.

>>787995

I didn't watch the anime. Was the gg thing in the dub?

Anyway, what makes you think they're going to notice the discrepancy between something they don't consume and something they consume, if you are claiming at the same time that they won't notice the difference between something they don't consume and something they consume?

>>787986

>>787990

The point is that they're going to poz youtube anime reviewers because they're considered 'authorities' by normalfags.

They're already in a little clique that rubs shoulders with faggot sjw youtubers like hbomberguy.

The Jews and their golems are trying hard to control Japan it seems. They are already pressured to opening up for diversity by the kikes and Chinese.

It's depressing to watch not only 4chan to get taken over by /pol/'s SJW style behavior, but even 8chan /a/.

I'm sorry, but I see /pol/ as cancerous as the SJW's. They use the exact same behavior, they immigrate to places where they aren't welcome, don't integrate and attempt to co-opt said places. There's no difference between SJW and /pol/, every /a/ posters is aware of the /pol/tards running around calling moe shit, and wanting more "deep" edgy anime aimed at Westerners.

>>787970

> If Netflix and partner companies end up making money, which is entirely possible given how large the audience is compared to just Japan, the rest are likely to attempt to imitate it in order to make more money.

The entirety of Netflix doesn't even make half of what the anime industry does. Do you actually expect multi-billon dollar companies to bow their head to Netflix? Do you expect that Kadokawa,Sony & Bandai just let themselves be pushed out of the anime market?

What Netflix did was a war declaration to the Japanese production companies, they will take measures against Neflix.

Not because they fear Western influence, but because Netflix attempts to push them out of their industry.

It's true that there are risks, i.e. said production companies imitating Netflix to get into the Western market. But I see this as a small issue, since most anime are based on a source material.

It's goddamn Kadokawa, every anime fan should know that they don't bow to pressure.

>>787871

>It would be grateful if Netflix can contribute to the development of Japan's anime culture

>Netflix

>contribute to the development of Japanese anime culture

They're not even hiding it anymore.

>>787998

Get on track, Anon.

Yes it was the dub and what I'm saying is normalfags won't bat an eye at changes like that because dubbed anime is as far as their mental faculties allow them to go. Doesn't matter what the source material says because the message is altered at the receiving end.

>>788002

/pol/tards are just chuunis. They're harmless because nobody takes them seriously.

The other camp is dangerous though because they're actually being listened to thanks to their message being couched in an innate moral highground. Their tactics are the same and their goals are equally stupid, but for one of them it actually works and that's why they're a threat.

>>788002

Yes, let's go back to watching anime approved by our uncle george. It has characters with multiple ethnicity, sexuality, and progressive values that will be fun for the whole family. You complain about /pol/ yet you don't understand the significance of this. The anime that you love will be change forever, do you understand that?

>>788004

I remember even normalfags were annoyed with how Lucoa complained about the patriarchy in meidoragon and how they injected a "conservatives LMAO amirite?" joke in that gyaru anime.

>>788000

Alright so that that's two Jews, but in the positions of co-founder and major investor, so you could argue that's an outsized influence for two people. Any others?

>>788011

Don't forget that kikes also play the name game. A lot of Jewish agents are Koreans and Westerners living in Japan.

>>788002

>Devilman, LGH and PunPun are aimed at western audiences

You're so full of shit

>>788002

>It's depressing to watch not only 4chan to get taken over by /pol/'s SJW style behavior, but even 8chan /a/.

Nigger everybody knows Netflix is infested with SJW bullshit. SJWs are pathologically incapable of doing anything without shoving their fucktarded political crusade into it, they put Trump in Devilman Crybaby for fuck's sake, and remember that fucking gamergate reference in Prison School and complaining about the patriarchy in the Maid Dragon dub? Excpect more and more shit like that as western SJW companies like Netflix try to infest Japanese media.

>>787934

Probably because politicians think that the olympics is good for making money and tourism.

Too bad that even with a peak in tourism, it's still a loss when it comes to hosting that glorified sports day.

>>788002

Tactics and Beliefs are completely different things.

>>788015

>politicians think that the olympics is good for making money and tourism.

Aren't the olympics infamous for ruining countries?

>>788002

>I'm sorry, but I see /pol/ as cancerous as the SJW's.

>There's no difference between SJW and /pol/

You need to go to hospital to take out that fence bollard from your anus.

>>787985

But you won't be able to point it out when even the source material has been "relieved of it's cultural barrier".

To be fair, I don't think it will work that well on the individual mangaka, but big budget anime originals may suffer.

One little sidenote on the "cultural barrier". Suits are fucking retarded to think that the people that watch anime want a bunch of western culture in their CGDCT.

>>788019

>Suits are fucking retarded to think that the people that watch anime want a bunch of western culture in their CGDCT

They don't, they want to broaden the demographic and get people who previously weren't into it to start buying and watching animus.

>>788019

>the people that watch anime want a bunch of western culture in their CGDCT.

Here's the problem:

People who only think they like anime, and people who know they don't like the core of anime, but are interested in another Cowboy Bebop.

>>788022

In other words, the shit shown in the Cartoon Network.

>>788006

You're right. I take /pol/ far to seriously, because of their negative impact on image board culture.

It's hard not to hate them, when you get constantly flooded with crossboarders.

>>788014

>hey put Trump in Devilman Crybaby for fuck's sake,

Are you new to anime? The current president often makes cameos in anime & manga.

For example Kengan Ashura had Merkel, Trump, Obama and Putin appearing.

>Maid Dragon dub

>gamergate reference in Prison School

I am aware of both of these things, and I aggree with you.

The inserting of SJW politics into anime is disgusting.

But that doesn't mean /pol/ is any better.

>>788026

>But that doesn't mean /pol/ is any better.

They insert /pol/ memes into everything.

>>788028

Do you have any proof for your claims?

>>788026

>/pol/ is any better.

/pol/ is irrelevant, they don't do shit.

Why would you suck SJW cock for the sake of being more hip and cool than /pol/?

You're driving full speed towards the edge of a cliff and instead of focusing on that problem you just whine about some autistic faggot who's in the car with you.

Netflix wouldn't be doing this unless they wanted more influence over the content. They're throwing barrels of cash at studios, but in exchange they'll veto anything that doesn't sit right with their normal audience that sits around watching New Girl and dumb things like that.

I've never been happier that I decided a long time ago to never, ever discuss my interests and hobbies with anyone I know in real life. In my mind I can already hear my coworkers talking in the most mindless terms about some new cartoon show they saw on Netflix, since they'll certainly be promoting these like crazy. Hopefully it doesn't pan out in long-term viewership and things can go back to normal.

>>788031

A wise old tortoise told me in a dream!

So, apart from Netflix itself and private holders, these are the Top 5 Owners of Netflix:

>1. CAPITAL RESEARCH GLOBAL INVESTORS

>2. VANGUARD GROUP INC

>3. BLACKROCK INC.

>4. FMR LLC

>5. STATE STREET CORP

Capital Research and Blackrock are Jewish owned. Vanguard and FMR LLC are owned by White Americans.

No info on State Street.

Well, it's pretty evened out, but the Soros factor is too heavy:

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2017/03/03/elitist-george-soros-most-concerning-investments-netflix-google-more/

https://squawker.org/analysis/netflix-goes-sjw-george-soros/

>>788036

So you don't have any proof.

>>>/out/

>>788002

>I hate SJW but don't you think anti-SJW are just as bad.png

Good job faggot on derailing the thread. Kill yourself. /pol/ isn't trying to ruin every medium. Why even bring it up, faggot.

>>788032

>/pol/ is irrelevant, they don't do shit.

Really, you may not like them, but look out everywhere and they're there.

Right now we have congressmen using /pol/ lingo and quoting the operations, political parties in Europe and even maybe someone infiltrated in the White House

/pol/ is not a person or a bunch of LARPers, it's a place to disseminate information, no matter what it may be, true or false, etc etc

>>788028

>They insert /pol/ memes into everything.

Here's the thing. Let's assume /pol/ edits every single thing to fit their opinons. So? That'S about all they'd be able to do. The un-edited original will still exist.

In this case, the original will already be edited to fit the producers' taste. Things that they think will influence their sales badly will cease to exist.

Think about it. Most people here aren't a big market for them. Of course they'd cater to normalfaggots instead.

>>788032

>Why would you suck SJW cock for the sake of being more hip and cool than /pol/?

Where do I suck SJW cock? I didn't defend Netflix, I didn't praise SJWs anywhere.

I hate SJWs.

I see Netflix as bad for the entire anime industry.

But that doesn't mean I need to join /pol/ in their political aims.

>they don't do shit.

/pol/ attempts to co-opt /a/ to spread their political causes.

It's what /pol/ always does, just look at some 4chan boards which are a shell of their former selfs after /pol/ arrived.

You can already see it in this thread, in which they attempt to derail the discussion to be about "Jews" and Sorros

>>788042

>>788045

>/pol/ attempts to co-opt /a/ to spread their political causes.

This has been almost non-existent here on 8/a/, specially due to the hard work of the Meidos.

But then again, 8chan is /pol/chan, what did you expect? 4chan-tier Redditors, Tumblrinas and Leftists?

>You can already see it in this thread, in which they attempt to derail the discussion to be about "Jews" and Soros.

Of course, it's about Netflix.

>>788045

Stop deleting and reposting. Nobody expects 100% perfectly phrased and flawless posts on here. If a typo ruins the understanding, just post an addendum for clarity.

Reading the same post thrice and searching for that tiny difference that made you repost the whole thing is seriously annoying to everybody.

>>788045

>You can already see it in this thread, in which they attempt to derail the discussion to be about "Jews" and Sorros

Honestly people wouldn't even be posting politicial stuff if this didn't happen.

>in which they attempt to derail the discussion to be about "Jews" and Sorros

The baby eater and his roaches are directly relevant to this thread ever since he funded Netflix.

>>788047

I apologize, I am posting in multiple threads, and have partially gotten confused myself.

>>788045

>/pol/ attempts to co-opt /a/ to spread their political causes.

I haven't seen that yet.

>It's what /pol/ always does, just look at some 4chan boards which are a shell of their former selfs after /pol/ arrived.

I am not going to that redditors and tumblrinas infested website.

Especially when they made three bitcoin miners running in background.

>>788066

Sorry

>>788032

>You're driving full speed towards the edge of a cliff and instead of focusing on that problem you just whine about some autistic faggot who's in the car with you.

This guy gets it.

I'd be pointless to deny that the final line that many of us have drawn in the sand has been crossed. It'd be absurd to deny that many of us, no matter what our 'board allegiance' is, have so much in common that we can agree upon, and yet we choose to infight over our differences while the 'outgroup' is systematically ruining all that we love.

>>788068

No but see Anon it's very important to spend all our time arguing about whether to call our enemy SJWs or Jews even if our countermeasures would be the exact same thing in either case. Otherwise, we might actually get somewhere and that just won't do.

>>788071

For what purpose? So that Netflix wanting to delete and change what they don't like "break down the cultural barrir" becomes even more accepted?

>>788071

Not too bad an idea, though my concern is Netflix and co swinging back at the studios and using it as evidence that they need to Diversify their media further. It would depend on how much pressure Japan could exert back and how willing they would be to do so. If we did pursue that we really would have more than enough material to work with though. If we could make anime completely unpalatable to the general public then we'll have won.

>>788053

>What matters is that material that isn't "socialy acceptable" won't be included in the shows, certain material and world views that are "trending right now" with their target audience will be promoted.

True, this will be the case. Netflix won't air "problematic material".

>>788054

> If anyone has any brilliant suggestions we'd all love to hear them

Financially suporting anime that aren't on Netflix.

The biggest hope against Netflix, lies in Japan and China. They are the markets bigger than the West, and the deciding faktors.

> it doesn't change what our response should be. Which will probably be nothing,

You are right, it's unlikely that /a/ will do anything about this.

There are some things, which can be done, but their success is questionable, and may have negative unwanted side effects.

I think about something similar like Operation: Black Rage.

Anime is weird, it wouldn't even be necessary to create fakes, people could just selectively pick problematic scenes.

Perhaps even weaponizing SJWs against Netflix is possible, you only need to make them believe that Netflix is rasict.

>>788075

I miss the days when anime was very niche and faggots didn't want to try and ruin it.

Goodbye lolis.

Respond to this post with your favorite loli so we can grieve together.

>>788077

Now everyone and their Jewish grandmother want to get in on anime. 2007 was the year when everything was going to shit.

>>788075

I have read so many leftwing articles of butthurt liberals bitching at Japan not importing refugees and the country not being diverse enough. Many at most saying by importing third worlders to mate with females to fix the low nip birthrate. Ive aslo seen many SJWs bitch at Anime and Manga for years for being sexist and racist. Mostly in gamergate back and forth shitflinging in 2014 and 2015.

Ive grown up with many stupid mentally unstable narutard girls who worshipped sasgay turned into cringy obnoxious weebs whove probably used tumblr when it first started. About everyone of them are fucking retarded insane SJWs whove worshipped cartoons like Invader Zim, and pretended to like video games and comic books because they had no friends.

Early millennials like these ruined cartoons, comics, and now vidya because they went to school, got indoctrinated by marxism, and infiltrated every western entertainment medium. The only way these people can influence the last touched entertainment medium in the world is through Netflix.

>>788082

Toonami ruined everything.

>>787887

There aren't any, they selected the specific studios for the "I only watch mature anime for mature people such as myself released before the year 2000, every single current anime is filled with fanservice and lolis" crowd.

>>788084

Another interesting thing is that none of the selected studios had a close relationship with any of the big anime producers.

>>788084

The ones that didn't know fanservice and moe have been around since the get-go and Toonami doesn't bother airing them.

>"I feel this alliance that enables us to stream works to watchers all over the world has great meaning to my company's creators. Working with Netflix, I want to produce good works that will make an impression on many people, regardless of nationality and age, and keep on entertaining people for many years."

For me, they are saying about flooded the market with shit kind Anime as Dragon Ball, One Piece, FMA, Death Note and Code Glass.

Another thing I fear from Netflix they start to make shows with 30 minutes instead 25 minutes. If some studios trying to follow this new pattern this will made hard to follow more shows what could result in some studios to bankruptcy lose profit in the merchandise and licenses to overseas market.

Also, even if Netflix give up or go to bankruptcy in next crises on this project, just for try change the actual model of production will cause damage industry.

>>788093

The nip government wants to move comiket somewhere else before the olympics start because the venue will be filled with gaijins for a long time.

>>788095

Summer Comiket is just being held earlier in the same venue.

2020 Summer Comiket will be held in Spring during the Golden Week.

>>788095

I actually agree with this, get it far out of harms way.

>>788099

You don't understand how this shit works, do you? We and 2ch are fringes, nobody cares about us, especially not clueless reddit weeaboos who are going be actually paying to stream this nuanime and even act smug about it if it happens to become part of the public knowledge that it's some kind of SJW subversion.

>>788099

Isn't LWA and Kill la Kill funded by netflix? Also, I think Violet Garden is too.

>>788102

Anon, 2ch is "bigger" is Japan than Reddit is to USA.

>>788103

And the normalfag weeb community in western Europe and the US is even bigger.

>>788099

>Isn't LWA and Kill la Kill funded by netflix? Also, I think Violet Garden is too.

They are all just licensed by Netfllix,

>>788102

I think you underestimate both us and them. If we could get 2ch (now 5ch) on board that would go a very long way towards planting that unspoken murmur into the Japanese collective mindset. It's not about the west, the idea I'm proposing to trigger the Japanese immune response. It's not like they're in any way weak in that regard.

>>788103

I don't know about the first two but regarding VEG Netflix is just doing funding, we haven't seen what havoc they wreak when on a production committee yet.

>>788099

I don't think there would even be a committee.

Netflix is just funding the anime entirely by themselves, they have no need to divide the risk.

>>788106

I wonder if it's possible to get Futaba on it as well.

>>788105

*quoted the wrong person

Was meant for >>788103.

>>788106

That isn't going to change the fact that money talks. We've established that China and the west can and would respectively bring in more money to the industry. If studios think they stand to gain more from this deal what makes you think they'd pass it by? Nationalism?

>>788102

Not the anon you replied to. Maybe not just through 2ch, then. Maybe some Moon-speaking anons could disperse the same info, or variations thereof, to various Jap nationalistic and sociopolitically-active people and outlets. Maybe if we could come up with an attack plan, we could avert, or at least alleviate the disaster.

Nevertheless, it's essential that we act, to the best of our abilities, lest we regret sitting on our arses in a few years when it's too late.

In either case, action keeps our imaginations and 'what ifs' to run wild and get the better of us.

>>788113

No one's gonna pay if no one's watching it, anon.

>>788116

>No one's gonna pay if no one's watching it, anon.

>what is federal government send money for the biggest tech companies

>>788116

And how are you going to convince the aforementioned western SJWeebs and and normalfags not to watch them, then?

The most "successful" attempt by imageboards to combat SJW subversion was gamergate and just look at how well that turned out. All it did was give the enemy a boogeyman to help scare more people into supporting them. We aren't the kind of people to get shit done, especially not against such a powerful opponent. The perceived moral highground they have is something that is incredibly powerful to the minds of idiots, and there's a lot of idiots. We can't fight them. All they have to do is call us names and that instantly discredits us and makes our arguments worthless in the minds of the dumb masses.

Present facts? Nobody has the attention span to listen to you. Call someone racist/sexist/whatever? You've got an angry mob at your command.

I'm not saying nothing should be done, but what we shouldn't do it is try to drum up attention and put our case out to the general public, because that's what gamergate did and it was a fucking disaster. If we do anything we have to do it on our own and from the shadows, because we're too ugly to find allies.

>>788073

Because Japan is the one of the only 1st world countries in the world with cultural impact with 90% of its popilation is of its native race still in existance.

>>788080

Not America but Japan.

>>788099

>I propose we wait for some Netflix-funded anime to air, then methodically pick it apart and collate examples of everything that we think is or isn't there because of their influence. Then, we take these distilled datapoints and begin informing the Japanese themselves about what we think is going on via 2ch.

This is the best idea so far, but we should work with multiple tactics.

I see 4 direct ways we can act against this.

1. Like you said contacting Japan is an option.

And I would also, like you said wait for some Netflix-funded anime to air.

If we start to cause an upheaval now, we would lose all our momentum ,if the first Netflix anime wouldn't be filled with SJW content.

2. Uniting the anime community.

Reddit, 4chan and other places are filled with normalfags, but it might be possible to win some of them for our cause.

Spreading negative examples of Netflix influence and their terrible subs, could make them unpopular in the wider anime community.

Netflix already isn't popular with ironic Weebs, simply because they are delaying subs.

3. Directly attacking Netflix

-Downvoting "good" Netflix productions on ranking sites.

-Upvoting "bad" Netflix productions.

-Promoting troll Netflix reccomendations.

-And in general spreading negative news about Netflix, while promoting their competitors.

-Posting their shit subs.

Netflix will realize after a whole, that this is because of their anime push.

4.Spreading problematic scenes from different anime.

-"Look at how Netflix, is funding these problematic anime things, just think about all the children who get brainwashed by this!".

-4chan already had at least once an temporary success with this tactic in Operation: Black Rage.

> November 17 2010 – Operation: Black Rage - In an urge to stop meme culture from going mainstream, /b/ starts making “race guy” comic, racist variants of rage guy, in hopes of getting Hot Topic to stop selling t-shirts. Though initially successful, Hot Topic research the issue and calls out the raid, putting the shirts on sale again.

The primary issue with Black Rage was that new problematic content was created for the Operation.

We don't need to rely on new content, we can just spread already existing problematic material.

Every harem has enough "bad" scenes to make an SJW faint.

One of the interesting things happening in the next months will be the response from Japan's anime producers to Netflix.

Depending on this response, we might be able to help the large Japanese companies to fight against Netflix.

>>788113

I don't see China as an issue. Their taste is much closer to Nippon than the West.

>>788129

Some decent proposals, but I don't know how much they could achieve.

>if the first Netflix anime wouldn't be filled with SJW content.

What I can see here, aside from my previous posts on how this might just be ineffective purely because there's a larger market outside of Japan, is that if the first couple of Netflix shows are actually good it might set a precedent that makes it harder to criticize them further down the line. Especially if there is SJW influence, but it's actually subtle, meaning your criticisms come across as the ramblings of a madman and it slowly conditions people to their way of thinking.

>4.Spreading problematic scenes from different anime.

This one I think is really bad and could backfire horribly. All they'd have to do is make a humble apology for the sick filth they've produced and promise to have more inclusive, diverse and respectful content in the future.

Really, fighting this kind of ideological war is an uphill battle to say the least. I'd much rather we had a way of hitting them in their bank accounts, where it actually hurts, but I can't say I know of a way we could do it. Boycott attempts have been proven to be embarrassing failures in the past, and as I've said before our votes don't count for shit compared to the normalfags.

>>788138

>All they'd have to do is make a humble apology for the sick filth they've produced and promise to have more inclusive, diverse and respectful content in the future.

But wouldn't this actually help us to succeed with option 1?

Our goal is to stop Netflix, option 1 is our best chance.

For 1 to work, Netflix needs to insert heavy SJW content into anime.

A direct public apology stating that they want to make anime more inclusive would be direct proof that they want to undermine Japanese culture.

>>788118

At this point we're not trying to send Netflix into total bankruptcy and drive everyone on their payroll, or associated with them to panhandling on the streets. We're trying to sever that particular tentacle that's trying to grab the anime industry. Whether they're aiming for profits, or dissimation of propaganda, they're not going to bother after a while if they see this particular alley is inprofitable, and concentrate their efforts and resources away from it.

>>788119

I'm not saying it should be done in any particular way, I'm saying that something should be done; whence my asking for opinions and strategies, and encouraging anyone to come up with one so we can come up with a way to fight back.

Also, the validity of your particular example aside, I think we shouldn't pigeonhole the normalfag in the same category as the SJW. They are in many ways different animals, and some are even fed up with the latter's autistic screeching. Despite their loudness, the SJW are a tiny, even if vocal, minority. All, and perhaps the nest result we have to accomplish, when it comes to normalfags (who comprise the majority), is their passive disinterest. That is enough to render the whole thing unprofitable, whether it's monetary gains, or propaganda opportunities they are after.

>>788140

>send Netflix into total bankruptcy and drive everyone on their payroll, or associated with them to panhandling on the streets

That's what we should be doing though.

Sure this is an anime board but I'm sure lots of anons here have interest in things that aren't anime.

For instance I used to like american sitcoms before the millenium hit and they all became trash.

As it is netflix as a concept is fine, but the company needs to fall harder than the twin towers.

>>788139

>A direct public apology stating that they want to make anime more inclusive would be direct proof that they want to undermine Japanese culture.

Very few people will care enough if you adopt this angle, though. Not many see this as a bad thing, especially not when it's sugarcoated so hard to sound like something really beneficial for culture in the first place.

>>788140

Completely agree with you, but I'm saying that the SJW have a better angle than we do because their side of the story sounds nicer to people. They can get more of a positive reaction from the passive masses with their soapboxing about inclusivity and other nice-sounding words than we can with our point about how we want to keep seeing cartoons with cute underaged girls in them.

Here's a thought: We could try to promote piracy of Netflix shows. Giving the people who want to see them what they want, for free no less, while Netflix gets nothing in return sounds like a good way to stick it to them while not showing our hand. The risk is that this might increase big corporations' interest in cracking down on piracy, but I doubt this would be the straw that breaks that particular camel's back.

>>788146

The first example isn't anime, the second example is even less realistic.

What the fuck.

>>788143

>I'm sure lots of anons here have interest in things that aren't anime

You're right, I also enjoy manga.

>>787876

Violet Evergarden is an adaptation of a novel that no one had heard of until it got an adaptation. This is Kyoani's usual MO.

>>787920

Anime isn't dead yet but this is the most serious threat since it plays the long game. For the most part they've been flopping about trying short term strategies like trying to have the UN denounce Japan for child porn and shit. But this is more concerning.

>>788143

No, this is exactly what we shouldn't be doing.

This would just make any united resistance against Netflix impossible, this isn't a crusade against SJW but an attempt to stop Netflix to get their tentacles on anime.

>>788147

You misread. It's not "realistic" It's how to draw more "reaustic" faces. See >>788150

>>788146

That looks like some kind of minor character in Jojo.

>>787944

>In 5 years we'll be in the same stat as /co/

>>788154

I guess the "artist" misspelled retardedautistic?

>>787961

>That shockwave on collision as he prevents a more jewed Japan single handedly

>>788143

>Very few people will care enough if you adopt this angle, though. Not many see this as a bad thing, especially not when it's sugarcoated so hard to sound like something really beneficial for culture in the first place.

My train of thought went along these lines.

First use option 4 to make anime appear problematic.

Then Netflix will issue an apology, and say that their anime are going to be inclusive.

SJW will pressure Netflix into including lots of progressive content.

This in turn allows can be sold to the Japanese as a Western company trying to influence their politics.

We don't need the West, just Japan and China are enough.

Daily reminder every time Japan tries to appeal to the West, its shit.

>>788163

And Space Dandy? Is it really shit?

>>788163

Where you trying to contradict yourself by posting that video? Then again, I don't think he was trying to appeal to the west with that movie.

>>788166

>>788167

You're right I was being unfair, but that movie had a lot of problems, the American actors were B-class, the American and Japanese actors had no chemistry that produced a lot of awkward moments. The movie pushed American stereotypes unnaturally. Even artistically it stopped making sense, when you had these tiny Japanese next to big Americans they were supposed to intimidate. America was shot like it was Japan. I do think Kitano was trying to make a movie for the West, he's been big internationally since he won a Golden Lion, and tried to cement himself as an international director. It's not the first time a Japanese director tried going to Hollywood, Akira Kurosawa tried in the 60s and almost ruined his career.

Space Dandy was good, I liked LWA. Is there a precedence to this? Maybe in videogames. I'm going to make some popcorn.

>>788166

Their understanding of the west comes from 3rd hand information from Western media so their understanding of the west is really skewed. Just like the West thinking everyone in Japan is just like their "wacky Japanese animes" (I'm sorry) only worse because this extends further then that and straight into adopting the worst parts of western pop culture. It doesn't help they can't tell Jews and Caucasians apart just like how people who don't deal with Asians on a regular basis can't tell them apart either.

>>788138

>if the first couple of Netflix shows are actually good it might set a precedent that makes it harder to criticize them further down the line

Wasn't neo yokio the first netflix produced "anime"?

Or does that doesn't count because it was probably made by french rejects in leafland.

>>788171

Devilman has been the only actual Netflix produced anime so far. As far as I know Netflix wasn't involved in the development of Neo Yokio. They just got the rights to it because the show's original distributor dropped it.

>>788011

Look at the staff on their original series.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mouth_(TV_series)

>created by Nick Kroll, Andrew Goldberg, Mark Levin, and Jennifer Flackett

Four Jews.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Is_the_New_Black

>created by Jenji Kohan for Netflix

Jew.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranger_Things

>created, written, directed and co-executive produced by The Duffer Brothers, as well as co-executive produced by Shawn Levy and Dan Cohen.

Not sure about the Duffers, it's not obvious from their wiki article. My bet is they're not Jews. The latter two are Jews, it doesn't get more obvious than Levy & Cohen.

I could go on, but most of their content matches this general pattern (which is to be expected, since American TV & film are dominated by Jews).

>>788002

>There's no difference between SJW and /pol/, every /a/ posters is aware of the /pol/tards running around calling moe shit, and wanting more "deep" edgy anime aimed at Westerners.

I go to /pol/ (not as much as I used to, but still reasonably often) and this season I'm watching Mitsuboshi Colors, Toji no Miko, Yuru Camp, Yorimoi, and Hakumei to Mikochi, among others. I don't really like /pol/posting on /a/. It's not why I come here. Sometimes it's relevant, though.

I sure can't wait for /pol/ to set up a permanent colony here when the Netflix-funded shows start airing. Since it's relevant. And obviously necessary.

>>788185

Shareblue please leave.

>>788002

I don't go on /pol/ but I sympathize with them and their goals, and this thread was strictly anti-Netflix until you came along and made it about /pol/. I don't make /pol/ posts, but it's ridiculous that someone can't point out some details about the subject matter (in this case Netflix) without someone getting upset if a jewish person within the subject matter is correctly pointed out. Information like >>788183 posted is just information, it's not detrimental to anime in any shape or form and you can easily ignore it if you don't care, instead of trying to turn this into a discussion about imageboard politics like you've been doing.

>>788188

Since there's Nazi posts and anons talking about Jews, it's safe to say that /weebpol/ no longer serve a purpose. We'll let /pol/ know that the meidos are redpilled and can finally discuss on the kikes trying to infiltrate Japan and their effect on the anime industry post-olympics.

This is all very saddening.

>>788193

Most of us have already been diving into our backlogs lately though.

The kikes have been wanting to control Japan for a long time. They target anime because it isn't Jewish controlled, it can be an alternative to Western media.

>>788199

>LotGH to be remade and hosted on Netflix

>All the original values and ideas are gutted and replaced with propaganda

>Declared anime of the season by Netflix and their new anime board

>This paves the way to a new generation of anime

Optional: It's entirely in 15 fps CGI

>>788201

Oh right, I'd forgotten they'd already tried to wedge into Ghost in the Shell. I wouldn't doubt a second attempt since their movie flopped, this time with the power of netflix.

>>788198

We owe it not only to the industry, but also, and most importantly to ourselves.

Admittedly, there is a risk in every course of action we take. But for many, if not all of us, anime was the last line of defence. The absolute line which must not have been crossed. And yet these filthy subhumans are now trying to grasp it in their filthy paws. You have to ask yourself what is left to you then, when this is finally ruined, as is anything else they've got their hands on. And if this is not worth taking a stand, then nothing else is.

This thread will soon hit bump limit, and I doubt that a second thread is going to be made, and if yes, whether it stays up or not. Try to remember the strategies other anons have put fourth, and at least analyse them, criticise them and refine them, and which one is likely to do more damage to them and the least damage to us. We might have to act each on our own and without much coordination.

We can at least try to fight.

>>788201

>LotGH to be remade and hosted on Netflix

It's already being remade, anon. I wouldn't be surprised if Netflix licenses it.

>>788208

At least it doesn't look like fujobait like the mango reboot does.

>>788188

The core /a/ users and meidos are all redpilled but don't sperg out about it because this board is for the discussion of anime and manga. And I think it's safe to say that we all want to keep it that way.

It is very important to note (especially for newfaggots) that that does not mean it is okay to /pol/post. It is not. Unless directly related to otaku culture, which is probably why some of the posts in this thread have survived.

As far as anyone is concerned, everyone here is /a/non and nothing else. Even if you're /pol/ on the side. Think about it, it makes sense.

Anyway, I'm writing this because I always found it funny seeing /pol/ crossboarders lose their shit about how "/a/ IS RUN BY KIKES" because they got banned and their posts deleted for posting dumb shit like "PRAISE [frog god] CHECK THESE DIGITS!!!"

>>787892

>China likes CGDCT

Didn't they make a Kancolle rip off? I think I can tolerate chinese CGDCT

The anime industry subsists on Otaku money. How long do you think Netflix will realistically dripfeed money to studios? I say at first we're in for a couple of bad seasons before the whole thing comes crashing down and even then there will be other studios making things.

>>788199

>Youjo Senki remake by netflix.

Oh god, please no.

>>788258

*At worst

>>788249

>Kancolle rip-off

They actually did it better. Instead of a browser based gacha rng simulator with boat girls, they made a mobile gacha side scrolling bullet hell with boat girls.

>>788262

>Gatcha.

>Bullet hell.

Excuse me?

>>788258

I might be completely wrong but isn't netflix actually not profitable? Or not that profitable at least?

Either way I think you're right, we'll get some bastardized garbage for a while, we might even get something miraculously good out of it (wouldn't bet on this though), but at the same time we'll get standard japanese anime from and for Japan. And then, eventually, it will end. It won't be good and there will be a lot of complaining but I think the industry can survive this.

>>788266

Jesus, I hope nips reject this shit.

Remember the Sony Hack? How western groups were pressuring them to make SJW/Leftist films in exchange of funding?

>>788353

>3 or 6 shows

Netflix announced 80 shows.

>>788355

They what? As in, 80 anime? Or 80 in general?

>>788355

80 films and 30 shows to be precise over the span of a decade. That's 3 shows a year Anon.

>>788358

>This thread is shit and overrun by /pol/tards

I don't think it's helpful to bring up /pol/ here either positively or negatively. You're just furthering the derailment from the core issue by doing that.

Is it too optimistic of me to hope that this move is potentially a sign of Netflix being in trouble? Between going full-blast at trying to corner a 'new' market (which they have no understanding of whatsoever) and the possibility of them being utterly at the mercy of ISPs in a no-net-neutrality scenario makes me kind of hopeful for their downfall. This whole 'throw lots of money at anime' plan seems like a stupid and (I hope) desperate move.

>>788361

We had this exact same thread months ago when Netflix announced their plans for this partnership and again when Disney pulled their movies out of their platform. This exact conversation ensued.

>>788360

Don't mind him, he's a retard spamming the thread.

>>788364

That was my second post in this thread smart one.

>>788372

The thing that's got me antsy this time around is that Netflix is actually going to be on the production committee, which is going to give them genuine power to shit up the anime being produced whether the studios want it or not. I don't see it catching in Japan (and we could do something to help make sure of that) but the sad reality is we may well have a pile of shit anime produced that represents time wasted by these studios when they could have made good anime instead.

>>788373

Nips could always give Netflix the no-go. Plus, there are a lot of shit-taste normalfags in there, but people tend to vote with their wallets. Unless you are a gigangic corporation or studio like, say, Konami used to be, you are also less likely to produce something for a worldwide audience, and everytime a small studio tries to appeal to "western sensibilities", it ends in failure and they take several steps back. Look at Chrono Clock, then look at Purple Software's games immediately after. I'm using VNs here as an example, but anime is also applicable too.

I don't see what all the hubbub is about, Space Dandy and LWA were explicitly targeted at the west and those were both fine. Anime is still way too niche for studios to ignore their domestic market to pander to foreigners for the majority of their series, the money simply isn't there.

>>787908

I find Anime more aesthetically pleasing.

>>788407

There's a difference between the Elevens making a cute attempt at appealing to the west through their own lens of what they think we might like, and Netflix or whatever coming in and imposing on them demands for what they should do according to Netflix's lens.

>>788420

>then we really might have another Eternal September-type disaster on hand where hordes of people with no frame of reference or interest in the bulk of anime filter in through easy ports of entry like reddit.

I don't see how internet discussions could get any worse. There is room for even bigger normalfaggots than the current reddit/facebook/tumblr crowd to get hooked in if Netflix markets the right way, but by the time you get to those fags you're not even talking about people who'd discuss it on the internet anymore.

>>788099

>>788102

>>788106

What about Futaba? Is it still around?

>>788002

>jews about to infest, subvert and take over his hobby, just like movies, just like vidya, just like comics

>directing your anger towards people trying to stop it

If you think you are going to save anything by sticking your head in the sand and not taking sides you are delusional. This is a battle of culture in a war of genocide and now the front line has reached you, whether you wanted it or not. Either you join the fight and educate yourself about your eternal enemy or you keep running further into nieches to escape the jew until he's claimed it all and there is nowhere left to run, like /v/ and /co/ did.

Fight now, fight a shittier fight later when what you loved is in ruins or cuck out and swallow what the jew gives you to swallow. Those are your options. There is nothing you will get for free in this situation and cowards will reap a cowards reward. You will get what you deserve and don't you for a second delude yourself into thinking it will be otherwise.

t.

Your friendly neighborhood /new/sman

>>788422

>I don't see how internet discussions could get any worse.

They've been in free-fall for the last decade, is it really inconceivable they might still have further to go?

>>788405

Why's that hard to imagine? It played a crucial role in killing off any good American entertainment, we went from the occasional decent show to a nonstop stream of propaganda thanks to Netflix.

>>788426

Thinking on it, I can think of a dozen netflix series going right now that run at a complete and utter deficit, but they push a agenda so they continue to receive publishing and go to their third or fourth season without slowing down. If this happens with anime, I can imagine terrible things. Just like with /co/, you're going to have normalfags in meatspace bragging about the latest adaptation of sword art online or death note in addition to captain america and iron man. You're going to see adds with butchered characters you once loved strewn over every TV commercial and youtube video.

The fact a propaganda machine like Netflix has turned its gaze towards anime is grim indeed. They have a few obstacles to overcome but if they don't subvert it now they'll try again later.

>>788169

America was shot like it was Japan.

How?

Akira Kurosawa tried in the 60s and almost ruined his career.

How did it almost ruin his career?

>>788341

Source?

>>788436

No need to go to a faraway land, anon. If the push comes to the shove, you can always fight in, and for your own land.

These fucks don't realise that once you take away the last sweet little thing a man has in his life, you lose all the leverage you have over him. Once you've severed the last ties that bind him to his mundane existence, he's gonna push back with all the force of a spring suddenly came loose and hit you back with overwhelming force. He'll want to reclaim all that you've taken from him, and more.

The most dangerous thing in this world is a man with literally nothing to lose.

>>788434

You destroy cancer by either physically going in and killing it and/or cutting off it's food source and starving it.

In this case the most feasible way is to cut the welfare and subsidies. The modern normalfag life is not a productive and contributive lifestyle. That's why they always push for more wealth re distributive measures. You cut off that constant source of energy input and it will die off or at least be greatly reduced.

>>788438

How many /v/irgins have performed terrorist attacks on EA or Ubisoft offices though?

>>788436

>>788438

Yes, our enemy's downfall is that they don't understand what happens when you take away someone's bread and circuses.

>>788448

>Going after the body of the snake instead of the head.

Shamfurr Despray.

>Banning anime didn't work

>Telling everyone anime is child porn didn't work

>Now they are forcing them to self-censor because of the olympics

>At the same time western influence over anime is extended until it fits the western narrative

It's official. Anime will die soon.

>>788434

>How do I fight against netflix and all the normalfags who are going to joyfully and willingly swallow their circumcised cock?

1. By mobilizing and fighting demoralization. To mobilize the entire community must must be made understand that this is because of the jew and part of a greater plan and not some SJW thing that may just blow away; you will have to take a long stand. Keeping people moralized means making the community understand that resistance is both possible and necessary.

2. Contact every content producer you can want using social media, be it studio directors or individual mangaka, and warn them about this and tell them that you will support them if they keep doing what they want and that you will turn on them if they bow to the SJWs, and then keep on contacting them as things develop. This is incredibly important becasue you must counter the terror of the left. The power of the left is that they are completely fucking insane and can devote their entire lives towards berating whomever they see as their enemy for not bowing to them. When someone is subjected to this they fold, because normal healthy people naturally do not spend their entire day posting messages to and about people they support even if that is how they feel, so it will be completely one sided unless a counter-assault is mounted. For people not forewarned about the methods of the left this attack will be perceived as a real rejection by their genuine fans and they will fold and apologize for being so thoughtless and insensitive. This is the SJWs' main weapon and it absolutely must be wrung from their hand.

In short warn people now so they will understand what is happening when it happens and tell them you will support them for standing their ground. Introduce them to they idea of banding together if (in reality when) SJWs will start trying to take away their freedom to express themselves. Warn them that you will turn on them if they heed the words of noisy leftists who don't actually give a damn about the art instead of the wishes of the fans that have been supporting them all these years.

3. Warn the Japanese boards and explain what this Netflix shit will mean and how it will not stop with just one token diversity in their favorite anime; show them the state of western media. They may dismiss you now but they will eventually believe you when they see everything start turning to shit just the way you warned them. The earlier you can get the word to them the sooner they will become allies and start fighting on the home front. This is ultimately where the strength and the numbers to not just resist but to defeat the jewing of anime will come from, but you will need to start laying the groundwork now so that they (both fans and creators) are not taken by surprise when the SJW assault comes, but can resist folding to the terror long enough to mount a counter offensive.

>>788454

Good post.

>>788454

>The power of the left is that they are completely fucking insane and can devote their entire lives towards berating whomever they see as their enemy for not bowing to them.

This has always been a huge issue when leftists are involved, at least as far back as the 60s, probably even longer.

I work a job, lift, watch anime, play games, listen to music and study; and I imagine most functional people spend their free times similarly, enjoying their hobbies when they can and doing their chores as they need. These people's hobby is advancing an agenda, and they frequently either live in filth or have someone else clean up after them. There are crazies on twitter with 3 followees but over 500 thousand tweets talking about the evils of capitalism and how nazis are running rampant.

I agree that our best bet would be directly contacting people in the industry who do good things and encourage them to keep doing what they're doing, and also contacting otaku, but my japanese isn't at a level where I could do either.

>>788467

I don't think there's a big difference between the time and effort invested into their political work between leftwingers and rightwingers. I have no proof for this of course.

The real problem with many leftwingers is that while rightwingers are generally defending their rights (or what they perceive as their rights), leftwingers fight for a higher moral cause (or what they perceive as such). Thus, a rightwinger is more inclined to listen to arguments than a leftwinger. When you identify as a champion of justice - the one and only true justice -, there can be no compromise. This is also why the far left consists of so many tiny splinter groups, each one in bitter feuds with all the others.

There is a lesson here. Don't join battles merely because of a just cause. Get involved when you have a personal stake in the affair. Disengagement and diplomacy are impossible otherwise.

>>788454

I thought these two posts are relevant to what you are saying.

This is the future that awaits us if we stand idle and do nothing:

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>>788454

It's also a good idea to be polite. People tend to listen and agree more easily with people who show some degree of kindness.

SJW's are never polite.

>>788504

Wasn't there a study showing that numbers of sex crimes are lower when there is porn available?

>>788513

Don't think you need a study for that, just common sense (not that they'd have any). Same thing with videogames and violence.

>>788517

Common sense is unscientific. It will often lead you astray. Studies can easily be fudged too, but at least it's somewhat more grounded.

>>788498

This is perfect to show the Japanese and explain to them that this is what their anime will become too if they let "western" influences weed their way into the industry. Showing them the censuring of games and what happened to comics here will also help them understand the reality of things, and explain that the reason you are this desperate to protect anime is that there is absolutely not anything left in Western media that doesn't constantly spit you in the face.

Hard data about Netflix being a money sink and still getting more and more money to burn would be helpful in convincing them that it is a propaganda tool for social engineering and that it will, if allowed, force its way into Japan regardless of cost.

What is Japan's reaction to this?

We should write a letter to 2ch like that one anon suggested.

>>787923

Japan has very little to no Jews, though.

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>>787929

Money is power and otaku throw it like it’s nothing at merchandise, doujins, and BDs. And you’d better believe that there’ll be a bloodbath once that crowd catches wind of Western SJWs. Don’t believe me? Take a hard look at the idol industry for insight.

Ditto with mangaka like Nagai and Takahashi.

>>788776

>Trying to ban smut in comics is like trying to stop wee-OH WAIT

>there is no official confirmation or even reliable reporting that such censorship over the next few years will occur.

>next few years

Thanks for letting us know where you are coming from.

>>788864

There is nothing inherently wrong with stories that appeal to very many people.

But making it your policy to target as many people as possible means that you are probably going to ruin your story.

>>788855

And what’s wrong with that? They’re both pretty much the same thing, just 2 sides of the same coin. I don’t know what you’re trying to prove unless you’re just shitposting.

>>788453

>self-censor

How? Any content they do that for is to sell BDs.

>>789420

I'm pretty sure that the Cross Ange BDs still had genderless Barbie dolls.

https://twitter.com/CanipaShow/status/959578054182907904

Only tangentially related to the thread, but it seems like Yaginuma Kazuyoshi, the director of the MMO junkie show, has been following /pol/-tier tweets.

I really hope this at least encourages some of you guys to go and actually try and become producers and animators and shit instead of just being passive consumers. Get jobs at Ark System Works's American branch or something, even if it means living in abominable places. Make a fucking sacrifice to protect the medium you love by actually taking part in making it. Bitchslap anybody who tries to get in your way.

Start a fucking business or something; it costs, what, $50-100 in the U.S. to begin?

Remember, half the reason why shit like the dub writing happens is because Austin faggots are employed to do it in the first place. Imagine if you were in their place instead.

Relying on big numbers to pressure others to take the actions you want to happen for you is typical leftist bullshit tactics, that's why complaining on the internet is not sufficient enough. You need to take it upon yourself if you are really committed instead of a passive pussy.

>>788146

>Bigger noses!

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I don’t understand what the big fuss over there and on half is all about. The entirety of Netflix doesn't even make half of what the anime industry does. Do people actually expect multi-billon dollar companies to bow to Netflix? Do you expect that Kadokawa, Sony & Bandai just let themselves be pushed out of the anime market? Read the UN response and think about it.

What Netflix did was a war declaration to the Japanese production companies; they will take measures against Neflix. Not because they fear Western influence, but because Netflix attempts to push them out of their industry. It's true that there are risks, i.e. said production companies imitating Netflix to get into the Western market. But I see this as a small issue, since most anime are based on a source material. It's goddamn Kadokawa, every anime fan should know that they don't bow to pressure.

>>788243

You compromised with /a/'s BO being a stalinist tranny.

You brought this on yourself.

>>788454

The second wave of the great war will be upon us soon.

First it was GamerGate.

The time has now come for

ANIMEGATE

>>790369

Fuck off we're not calling it that.

>>788162

Masquerading as SJWs is a really dumb idea. Just mock the shit out of an SJW crap that comes out. People did a good job of making Neoyoko a laughing stock as soon as it came out. If you want to make people stop being SJWs, you can't to make being an SJW uncool, since it's a bandwagon trend.

>>787875

Niggers

>>788002

>The entirety of Netflix doesn't even make half of what the anime industry does. Do you actually expect multi-billon dollar companies to bow their head to Netflix? Do you expect that Kadokawa,Sony & Bandai just let themselves be pushed out of the anime market?

The issue is that while it may cause blowback, it might also do the opposite and cause publishers to take a more active role in pandering to the west.

Ultimately, we can sit here and debate how and why western audiences are, on any genre, absolute shit protip, it's the jews, but we can all agree that they are in fact shit.

And any scenario where the studios are directly being payed to make anime produced by a western publisher creates a situation where the previous massive gap that existed between the markets is breached. Ultimately, maybe nothing comes of this, But there is potential for it.

While before rights were sold on a one payment basis sort of thing, and localization companies handled things and saw most of the profit, you could see publishers directly paying studios to make anime. And once someone like Netflix, or Amazon, starts tapping into the previous unexplored market of the west (as far as anime made directly for their tastes is concerned, rather than localized affairs), that opens a pandora's box. The other publishers can react in one of two ways, try and wall of the Japanese market and push Netflix out of it, or the more likely scenario, start pandering to the west as well. As much as you'd like otherwise, on just a sheer numbers basis there's more of us than there are Japanese people. There's more filthy disgusting weeaboos (and I use this term as it was originally used) than there are /a/nons or otaku combined. Even in Japan, fujoshits already have a sizeable market.

You could very well live to see the globalization of anime.

As far as solution go, there's several. Either take an active stance and go full culture war (and that risks an influx of shitters to the communities guiding that war), or pay with your wallet and start buying and importing BDs of things you wanna see. Ultimately those are your choices. Don't think the publishers like Kadokawa will just ignore a potential gold mine once Netflix taps into it.

>>788776

The issue is that this isn't about government policy. Honestly good old Abe could do whatever he wanted and the doujin market would be unaffected and we'd get lewd stuff regardless. The issue is western buying power being able to direct influence studios.

Hopefully though, the tiny minority of faggot libtards wont be able to do much damage. Regular folk that just like cute girls doing cute things probably still outnumber them, meaning the money goes where we say.

Something else to consider (shame the thread's past bump limit)

The effect this might have on the fansubbing and more importantly piracy scenes. You got yourselves a prime situation for a shitstorm once Netflix starts targeting sites like nyaa for consistently hosting their stuff. The national barriers prevent that from happening now (and even still, there's tons of attacks and C&D as is), but if the attacks are coming from the western media establishment (even if it's just places like Netflix and Amazon), that's an entirely different matter.

>>791457

The thing is that /a/ types don't buy anime, but normalfags do. It's an untapped market that could sway what is produced.

We can wait and hope, but a proactive approach doesn't hurt.

Also

https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2018/02/09/lets-listen-to-anime-creators-for-once-netflix-is-no-savior/

Blogpost, so take it with a grain of salt

Archive here for those that want it:

https://archive.is/5G5Pl

>>792378

Well, it more or less depends on who you ask for the first part.

>>788001

Not so much for the Jews as the Chinese are more important. Besides, China would never stoop to the former’s level.