/a/ - Animu & Mango

No

Not on TV you won't. Also Violence Jack was shit.

>I can feel you inside of me

>>758361

>blood and guts in action-oriented anime.

>posts 8th MS Team

You need to watch actual blood and guts anime.

>have theories but I don't really understand why the industry has moved in this general direction.

Simple; first, OVA market bottomed out in the late 90s. OVAs were not regulated by Standards & Practices groups or other guideline committees like TV shows are, hence how they could get away with showing copious violence and even sexual content without getting branded as porn. Once Japan's economy hit a recession in 1991, OVAs were becoming less viable ways for studios to make a profit. No longer could they afford the inflated budgets they had in the late 80s, and gradually more directors shifted to TV shows or movies, which brings me to my second point.

Content and parental concern; Japan has always had an aversion to violence in media, going as far back as the 1984 Hokuto no Ken TV series which had to re-color all gushing blood and gore to white or black. The ultimate tipping point probably for when parents had an outrage over suggestive content in anime was Evangelion, when moments like Misato having sex (off-screen) with Kaji or Eva 01 graphically eating an Angel caused a giant uproar that led to Eva losing many of their sponsors and the show's timeslot being shifted from the afternoon to the evening. Since then it's been a gradual change of hemming and hawing over what you can show on TV with anime, often with unsavory moments being reserved for the home video release.

>The same thing happened in the video game industry as well, did it not?

That's a completely different topic, aside from how Japan will censor violent western games like CoD, or slap them with an adults only CERO Z rating (and sometimes both).

>>758372

That picture was meant as unrelated anon.

Thanks for the explanation. That was a very interesting read and you, for some reason, seem extremely knowledgeable on the subject. If you're still in this thread perhaps you can explain if this extends into today's movies as well? Surely they don't fall under the same umbrella of regulations as the shows that get aired on TV.

>>758372

>The same thing happened in the video game industry as well, did it not?

>That's a completely different topic

Not really both anime and video games are being censored to appeal to western tastes just look at tree house.

>>758380

>perhaps you can explain if this extends into today's movies as well?

I couldn't explain movies. If you look at the majority of violent anime, movies were mostly on par with the content you saw TV. Most of the "violent" 80s anime movies like Wicked City and Ninja Scroll were started as OVA projects that were given brief theatrical runs before their VHS release.

>>758415

>tree house

That's Nintendo, who've always done everything on their own terms, and even then that's for western territories and usually covers fan service and sexual content. Games by and large are more violent in America, whereas Japan they're not.

Violent OVAs was essentially fan service of the 90s and not to fucking mention how balls hard it was to get your hands on this shit if you didn't live in Japan.

>No torrents

>Probably was not subbed/had a dub sometimes

>No fucking youtube rips if you were that desperate

Another fact is Japan has sort of cracked down on this type of shit as said by another anon. Ill use an example in America you can show a guy get his fucking arms ripped off and then get beaten with it however if there is so much as a fucking tit people will flip their shit. This is actually the opposite in alot of countries where they crack down and extremely censor anything with blood,gore, and violence but at the same time their fucking restrictions when it comes to nudity is extremely lax.

Not until the 2020 Olympics are over and done with (and when Japan gets another economic boost).

>>758309

The most recent large scale project that had ultra-violence would be Higurashi but even then it wasn't the same as the 80/90's style of violence since it went for a ultra-violence with moe theme. Though there was only explicit violence in the anime and OVA's and it was just described in the VN's.

>>758340

Maybe on the BDs, depending on the company.

>>758415

That's just video games, though.

>>758309

>Go on any old violent anime video

>MAN THEY DONT MAKE ANIME LIKE THIS ANYMORE BUNCH OF WAIFU SHIT NOW

I mean sometimes I agree but most of the time alot of the hyper violent OVAs only had soundtracks, the fact it was full of violence, and animation quality going for them since most of the time the stories were absolute dog shit or the OVA butchered the original work

>>758465

>>758428

>those soundtracks

Absolute perfection.

> OVAs only had soundtracks, the fact it was full of violence, and animation quality going for them

Very rare to come across a show that checks all the boxes. As far as I'm concerned, the three qualities you mentioned are enough for a very enjoyable experience.

Probably, but not too soon. Moral panics are all the rage worldwide these days still.

>>758446

How do you know, you won't officially known that until it's already been announced just like what is happening with video games?

>>758465

I'm kinder on these OVAs the same way I am with SoL series. As long as they offer some kind of entertainment then I'm usually satisfied.

>>758621

Because Japan does its own thing. Only time will tell what happens in a few years, but they cater to their own audience.

The West had a chance of being more important to the anime industry during the late 90s-mid 00s boom; that chance is gone. China is more important than anything over here to Japan these days.

>>758441

The only super violent anime I recall is fucking Blood C.

>>758465

>MAN THEY DONT MAKE ANIME LIKE THIS ANYMORE BUNCH OF WAIFU SHIT NOW

I'm also really getting sick of this faux sentimental nostalgia as well. I enjoy older stuff too, but many of these faggots bitching about waifu shit (which has been around for decades, and mostly before these kids were born) while acting like trash such as Violence Jack is good because it has blood and guts are usually late millennial and Gen Z faggots who've never completely watched these shows to see that when they weren't being violent, they were usually badly written and boring.

Genocyber is a perfect example; first 3 episodes are interesting, dark, and brooding. Then the last two episodes go to absolute shit with some plot retarded plot about a cult and some blind cunt. And the animation for most of it is ass. That's about the level many of these OVAs operate at; interesting premise that goes off the rails at the end with some edgy material to draw in your attention. For every Ninja Scroll or Wicked City, there's an MD Geist 2 or Legend of the Dragon Kings.

>>758737

> first 3 episodes are interesting, dark, and brooding

I'll give you dark for the first 3 episodes but interesting and brooding do not come to mind when it is just pure gore and child molestation for shock value. By the time she became a mute on a ship I knew they would go nowhere with that anime and it would just be build up for no pay off.

>>758428

>however if there is so much as a fucking tit people will flip their shit.

Yeah I don't see that being the case for much longer. Even people getting upset over a tit slip isn't really that much of a thing anymore. You've seen how millennials are. I would bet money that in ten years time, blatant soft core porn will be part of mainstream popular shows playing at three in the afternoon got a keep those ratings up some how goy. Really speaks volumes of the moral decay and character of this countries future huh.

>>758737

I think the problem is how a lot of these OVA tried adapting/making these stories with alot of plot/exopistion but due to it being an OVA had to rush.

Ninja Scroll packs 90 minutes worth of ball busting action just killed the guy who controls bees? 5 minutes later fight a bitch who uses gun powder as a weapon 10 minutes after that its a thrilling blind samurai fight. However even with all this action happening it still manages to tell you the story albeit simple but understandable with set beginning and ending.

>>758753

Even most non anime fans can appreciate Ninja Scroll it’s that good

>>758737

A lot of Nagai's shit have always been overrated trash. The original Devilman, Cutie Honey and Getter Robo were decent but then he started trying too hard to make statements with his works and couldn't seem to let go of his successes with those three formulas. All of his later works are sort of a hybrid between the three, especially Violence Jack which he tried to meme into being a canonical sequel to Devilman.

>>758753

>>758755

What do you nigs think about Kabuto?

>>759009

Wait Devilman and Violence Jack are connected?

>>758309

If people want it enough and someone is willing to do it, it can happen..

>>759307

Wasn't the guy /a/ or /m/? Is he still back in halfchan?

>>759281

>I just miss the animation and aesthetics of the 80's/90's.

I miss handpainted backgrounds and darker, less saturated color pallets. The painted backgrounds especially lent texture to the worlds that's harder to achieve digitally. The super high value and saturation pallets constrict the range of colors animators have to work with, leading to lower contrast visuals that usually end up looking pretty gaudy.

>>761271

I liked the fact alot of these directors wanted to make a real life movie but with the freedom of animation

Hellsing Ultimate was ultra-violent.

>>761994

Those days are never coming back, since practical effect techniques are now widely known throughout the world, camera quality keeps on going up as their prices go down, and decent CG effects and postprocessing are cheap and easy enough. The choice between filming live-action versus making animation is now largely a matter of stylistic preferences and budgets instead of any real technical limits.

>>762867

"Shading? That would just get in the way of the ugly filters!"

t. every fucking producer of every fucking animation of today

>>762867

>>762872

Weekly Anime, across the fucking board, all look like shit compared to pre-2002. Because there was a massive shift in how anime was made in about 2002. In the 90s each animation team had 3-4 weeks to work on each episode with the last week being used purely for cleanup, and the episodes usually being done more than 48 hours before air time. Throughout the early 00's animation teams were given less and less time. And now when a show has more than 6 days to get produced people in the industry call it a decadent and lazy production schedule.

>>762867

The fact you're comparing a TV special, that had higher budget than an average episode of DBZ, to a flashback sequence in an episode produced on a low budget in a week's time shows you're the exact type of fucktard who knows jack shit baout animation that's getting way too prevelant in discussing animation quality. >>>/reddit/

>>763255

>In the 90s each animation team had 3-4 weeks to work on each episode

Shit like DBZ was produced on the exact type of time table and budget you see now. Toei especially were always cheap. Please do your research before posting like a retard.

>>762867

Also

>Do you actually think animation isn't at the lowest quality its been in like 40 years?

Go and watch an episode of Mazinger Z from 40 years ago to see what a self-indulgent, pretentious, faux sentimental moron you actually are.

>>763308

I did do my research you ignorant slut. In 1991 DBZ had an average turnaround of 27 days with 5 episodes being worked simultaneously at any given time. Tighter than the industry average, because as you pointed out - Fuck Toei, but still far more than shows nowadays that have a 7 day turnaround with teams sometimes performing dual duty working backup for other shows.

>>763392

>In 1991 DBZ had an average turnaround of 27 days with 5 episodes being worked simultaneously at any given time.

Prove it.

>>762867

Wow, it's not just the coloring/shading, even the facial expression is pretty much non-existent in the remake.

>>758727

Black Lagoon was kinda violent

>>763768

Does it have good soundtrack? Without music it looks just lame.

Also these days violent scenes exist, but they look lame as fuck with "teen girl murdering everyone because she is cuhrazy and magic" and it fucking suck ass.

>>764093

Black Lagoon was fucking lame.

>>764115

Come on, whats lame about "i am invincible to bullets and I have an aura of fear and I can kill any number of people and I am just an ordinary woman/child/another child"? Or "rape gives children superpowers".

It would be a nice story if they cut all the edgy shit and just left nice stories about pirates and lowlifes and how fucked up their life is.

Make Violence Great Again- WB JP, 2018

>>764674

It looks like my kind of stupid.

>>763308

>comparing a TV special, that had higher budget than an average episode of DBZ

Oh wow I didn't think anyone outside of 4chan would try to make the "big budget ova" argument for that pic.

>>763309

>self-indulgent, pretentious, faux sentimental moron you actually are.

6/10 you could do squeezed a few more adhoms into that string.

>>759009

>Getter Robo

>Go Nagai

It's like 90% Ken Ishikawa right?

>>764650

>>764674

but its Batman you know the super hero who has an autistic no kill rule?

>>763952

>it takes a higher budget to draw a different expression on a characters face

This amv has been packaged and repackaged by younoob about 20 times and quality is unwatchable could someone recreate it in high quality and post .webm

>>768401

both audio and video are fubar thanks to youtube. Plz fix

>>768401

>>768407

Seriously why was this anime such shit? Music was on point though

>>758737

>>762867

I like if animation quality from the 90s was brought back but you could have goriest most magnificent looking anime but everything regarding the plot/story will be complete dog shit

this reminds me, I need to find a Genocyber that isn't a terrible dub

>>768466

I have a VHS copy that is subbed but undubed

>>768466

On the topic of old OVAs what ever fucking happened to British English dubs? I honestly think they produced overall better dubs than American ones for instance

>>763952

>waifu shit and moeshit has increased over the years

>implying it always hasn't existed.

Existing and increasing are different things, retard.

>overall quality has dropped over the years

>moeshit somehow correlates to animation quality

Obviously, when it becomes predominant. Do you subscribe to the marxist school of thought, that answering ANYTHING is a valid response as long as you believe you're in the right?