No.745455
What, is the anime confirmed or something?
No.745486
No.745508
>>745448
The Shittiest part in JoJo
But that doesn't mean its bad in itself, its just that compared to the other ones, this one is just 'meh'. I want my Steel Ball Run anime adaptation now
No.745520
>>745508
dude only like 20% of stone ocean is good
at least 40% of vento aureo is good
No.745524
Anyone else bored to death of Part 8?
I am and I'm not sure if it's because part 8 is boring or if I'm finally getting tired of JoJo after reading it so much.
No.745525
>>745520
Stone Ocean has a more interesting Jojo, though. Giorno is bland as fuck outside of his desire to be a gangstar. The only reason anyone likes Vento Aureo is because Giorno's crew are fun characters.
No.745569
>>745520
>20% of stone ocean is good
Well that's true, though i could say that stone ocean is 'bland' than it is 'bad'
However Pucci is a way more interesting villain compared to Diavolo, hell Diavolo himself is only popular because of his stand.
>>745525
>Giorno's crew are fun characters.
This is true RIP
Also the stands in Vento Aureo is where it starts getting really bizarre and fun
No.745577
>>745524
It's probably you don't want to keep waiting to read it so you want it to speed up. I haven't read any of it, and once it gets finished I'll burn through it all and probably find it a fun read.
No.745586
What were they thinking with that ending?
No.746475
>>745448
Pretty bad to be honest, it got his cool things but the cons outsmarted the pros. Also, I got more hard time understanding how the fuck Giorno won in the end than the so-called "it just works" stand powers, not like it matters because Bruno was the real protagonist and Fugo was the biggest faggot in that universe
No.746614
>>745448
I don't like it but I appreciate it for what it does. It answers a whole lot of what if scenarios
like what if a whole bunch of stand users just team up and make a gang?
what would an arc be like having not a whole lot of focus on Jojo?
what would it be like if the main character was a bad guy(but not really since jotaro said he was a good guy)
To bad there is so much shit that is changed or dropped that it kinda has a nonsense and unsatisfying feel to it. It felt like araki was completely making up stuff as he went along and then had to end it.
Serioulsy how and why would dio just carelessly pump and dump when he knew that his children could be stand users and dangerous like him? Also how why in the fuck did Dio not just suck the blood and kill the women he met, he's a fucking vampire.
Giornos original ability to reflect back what is hit on him?
What was the point of him being a gang
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Why say it like that when your still doing mob shit like a normal gangster? I feel like giorno and the story may have had a more goofier tone with what araki originally planned?
why did they bother explaining stands as an alien space rock when some people have stands naturally?
They straight up fucked polnareff in the ass, almost a fate worse then death deal. Not a good thing to shit on legacy characters but that is just my opinion. It was still Jojo in style and bizzareness
No.746633
>>746614
>Serioulsy how and why would dio just carelessly pump and dump when he knew that his children could be stand users and dangerous like him?
Brain-washing fleshbuds. Also he's an egotistical prick whose arrogance gets him killed, like all JoJo villains.
>Also how why in the fuck did Dio not just suck the blood and kill the women he met, he's a fucking vampire.
Same reason he tolerates any human being's presence. That and you don't throw out an ice cream sundae after just one spoonful.
>Giornos original ability to reflect back what is hit on him?
He creates life and anyone who attempts to harm that life has it reflected back onto themselves.
>What was the point of him being a gang
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So it could be set in Italy, probably.
>Why say it like that when your still doing mob shit like a normal gangster?
He wanted to be a good gangster that served the community while still being a criminal. Organized crime has always had a complicated relationship with society, especially in Italy.
>why did they bother explaining stands as an alien space rock when some people have stands naturally?
I have no idea. I guess someone thought the Arrows needed a backstory to justify having even more of them.
No.747145
>>746633
>flesh buds
I don’t buy the theory that Dio handed those out like candy to anyone he came in contact with. Pucci didn’t have one, and Dio had to send Steely Dan to plant one on Enya. I think only people with very important missions got them, like Polnareff/Kakyoin and Okuyasu’s dad. Maybe the higher ranks of the Egyptian Gods, like The D’arbys.
No.747154
I tried reading ahead when the stardust crusaders anime was going, diamond is unbreakable was a lot of fun but vento aureo just bored me to a point I dropped it.
Last thing I vaguely recall is some of the gangstars got inside a mirror or something? Also something about a poison stand?
No.747162
>>745448
Even a trip to Italy last week couldn't make me like vento aureo.
No.747168
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I started reading jojo after watching the part 1 and 2 OVAs? and then finally season 3. I managed to get up to stone ocean but i stopped reading for a bit after i got to it because I got a bored. I enjoyed a good amount of Vento Aureo because some of the stands were really interesting to see like Green Day, Purple Haze and even White Album which was one of my favorites.
So far Stone Ocean has been pretty lackluster but it may have something to do with the fact that Ive only just begun reading it.
No.747179
>>747168
Stone Ocean gets fucking crazy after a while, it was the first time I actually called it bizzare.
Something like one of the main acters literally being a skinwalker and also best girl. The whole green baby subplot is also weird.
It's funny when Araki says that Jolyne that can't shut up about fucking is supposed to be like virgin Mary
No.747212
>>747168
Stone Ocean has some pretty good stands, but it has some weird-ass pacing that is off-putting to many. There's also the fact that the Stone Ocean cast isn't as enjoyable as the gang from Vento Aureo; however, Jolyne is leagues better than Giorno by the virtue of actually being a fucking main character this time around. It gets much better once Pucci gets the green baby and they break out of prison.
If it helps any, just power through it thinking that you'll be met with Steel Ball Run, which is considered by many to be Jojo's best part.
No.747218
>>747179
Stone Ocean's greatest fault is the unengaging greatest story. Pucci combines having no motivation of his own, just wanting DIO's dick, and being plot armored to hell and back. The individual stand battles are the most engaging in the series, but caring about the part as a whole is a tall order.
Still a hell of a lot better than Vento Aureo that constantly tries and fails to be the best parts of SC and DIU.
No.747228
>>745448
It`s the only JoJo I dropped midway, not even sure why.
It was after **The first encounter with CRIMSON KILLER and
Bruno somehow loses his innards (?)** Should I finish it?
No.747229
>>747228
No way I fucked up that spoiler
Maybe because of this?)
No.747232
>>747228
I think the main problem of part 5 is the villains. I can't rememeber any villain aside from Doppio/Diavolo, which is unusual. As a result everything ater Giorno gets into the gang and before Doppio appears is a big blur. I remember some stands like Metallica and Notorious B.I.G., but overall everything but the main cast is not memorable. I can name a few antagonist for any part other than part 5 easily.
Does anyone know where I can download the new Kishibe Rohan animation?
No.747252
I appreciate that it was a direct inspiration for Purple Haze Feedback, the best Jojo part.
No.747283
>>747218
Despite his problems I would say that SO is solid, at least more than Vento Aurero. And wasn't Pucci objective to reach heaven so he could repair the mistake he commited with his sister and secret brother?
>Still a hell of a lot better than Vento Aureo that constantly tries and fails to be the best parts of SC and DIU.
I think the real problem with Vento Aureo it's that it tries to be a "serious" part, you can see it in how Araki made sad backstories for almost all the characters, you know there's something wrong when JoJo tries to take itself too serioulsy. There's also the problem that Giorno became so fucking broken by the end of it that Araki had to pretty much ignore the events for the next part, making it feel kind of irrelevant to the greatest story.
>>747232
I do remember most of them, actually, aside of his stand Doppio/Diavolo are fucking forgettable, what was even his motivation? I do remember something about world domination which feels pretty bland for a JoJo villain
>Diavolo is bad
>Why?
>Because he wants to take over the world
>Why he wants to take over the world?
>Because he is bad
No.747285
>>747283
Fuck, forgot to mention that I do appreciate that the stands in VA were really creative and how the fights contrasted with the ones in DiU having most of the enemies dying in brutal ways
No.747293
>>745508
>VA
>Shittiest part
>not part 6 or part 3
No.747326
>>747168
Second half of stone ocean is far far better than the first half.
>>747232
Part 5 feels like 90% filler fights that don't matter with a gang that has no personality and you never feel closer to their goals until the very end. Which is all a shame because it has great ideas.
Vento Aureo should be renamed to Wasted Potential.
No.747329
>>747218
I think part 5 had the better stand battles. You are right about part 6's faults though, I had virtually zero interest in it at all until the final third maybe even last quarter of it. Jolyne was also somehow more boring than Giorno. Pucci makes it all come together by the end though and that's the only saving grace part 6 really has.
No.747410
>>747154
That's the Man In The Mirror fight. I think after that is when they met Trish. There were some good encounters after that but I stopped reading after the Grateful Dead and Beach Boy fight. Part 5's strength is having really fun Stand battles and good supporting characters, while weak in main plot and main character.
No.747433
>>747410
>weak main character
Once you tell your brain that Bruno is the protagonist, Part 5 becomes better.
No.747444
>>745524
I was getting bored of it but this battle with the plant appraiser got my interest again
No.747474
>>745508
Part V gets all the flak because they just remade part III in Italy and because Araki accidentally made Giorno overpowered and Diavolo bloody incomprehensible due to the B&W's quality.
Stone Ocean has barely anything coherent or good about it, Jolyne and Foo Fighters are the only memorable characters, there's a handful of cool fights amid a lot of shitty ones, designs are the absolute worst in the series (while at least part V tried to keep them simple and similar to part III), some stands are carbon copies of other earlier ones (i.e. Marylin Manson, C-Moon, Limp Bizkit etc.) and it also retcons several things, including Giorno being a special case of a DIO's son (since apparently the fact his mother somehow escaped DIO's grasp is peculiar in and of itself), how Stand users inherit their own abilities and even Annasui's gender gets swapped.
>>745525
>Stone Ocean has a more interesting Jojo, though.
How does that make the part inherently better? Jotaro is a living and breathing Original The Character, yet his whole adventure is a lot of fun to read and watch.
>>745524
The more I read Part VIII, the more I think that Araki is really done with Jojo as a whole and wants to do other things but he's basically mandated to write at least a chapter per couple of months. He probably wanted to try making a cool Thriller kind of chapter but either got bored halfway in or had half his ideas canned by the editors and thus is now just winging it with Part II tier villain motivations and a very early exposition flashback.
>>747228
I believe the Color Scans are finally done so go read those.
>>747232
>>747283
I have a theory of my own that makes him much more interesting than intended. Remember how there's some Stands that are not tied to a living person but are rather either tied to an object or just have a mind of their own, like the Anubis sword? I believe King Crimson has a similar thing going on, where Vinegar Doppio was just a malevolent orphan and somehow King Crimson managed to get a hold of him and thus transform him into Diavolo. Remember that King Crimson can move from Stand user to Stand user at the end of part V, which may also imply it's just Diavolo's soul, but then again Polnareff mentions that somehow he didn't count for two souls inhabiting one body, which is kind of a weird thing to say in and of itself. Doppio doesn't even realize he's got a daughter.
No.747560
>>747326
Sure, Bruno's squad is filled with kooky personality, but you would think Passione as a whole would differ from the real world Mafia by dint of their elites (?) all being superpowered. From the name and the name of its founder, they could've had some twisted reverse-Catholicism or Hell themes going on. Maybe you could've had Diavolo see Italy's underworld as his Hell to administer, quite apart from the vague world domination scheme he had in canon.
No.747562
>>747474
You reminded me that I really hated when part 6 teased when giorno could appear when pucci was gathering his sons. Why didn't he show up or at least show a panel of telling pucci to fuck off and have a reason?
No.747563
>>747474
>King Crimson theory
I've heard that before. The transition between the two is a bit too much for just a Clark Kent-style posture change. This also explains how the two separate personalities can talk to each other without a time delay: one's a personality, the other is an actual separate entity.
No.747618
>OP made a thread about a fake Vento Aureo animu pic
wew OP
No.747725
>>747560
>Sure, Bruno's squad is filled with kooky personality, but you would think Passione as a whole would differ from the real world Mafia by dint of their elites (?) all being superpowered.
not really. most of the time, criminals are petty.
No.747749
>>747562
>Why didn't he show up or at least show a panel of telling pucci to fuck off and have a reason?
Worst yet, they had a shout out to Rohan, because Araki must remind us that it's obviously not his self insert. Bandai Namco was truer to Jojo's spirit than Araki post part V, basically, since they acknowledged GER being able to protect Giorno during the sped up time. Part of me wishes that Araki hadn't forgotten about it and didn't leave this factoid for the terrible non canonical novel.
>>747563
And another one yet: Doppio can see Stand powers but has no Stand of his own, until King Crimson grants him Epitaph. If he truly was in control of KC, wouldn't he have been able to skip time also?
>>747560
Italian Mafia is not really that subtle, they operate on the basis that since the end of WWII they've been covered by (((foreign investors and drug dealers))) and by the American govt to keep Southern Europe from going back to Fascism, so they can do whatever they want with impunity and many of them hold political positions throughout the whole Peninsula, some going as far North as Germany. They're also extremely religious themselves, so I guess Araki just wanted to reference that aspect of their lives.
Also, you'd be amazed by the amount of dumb, petty shit individual Mafia members do because of their perceived immunity to the law. From obnoxiously expensive parties that engulf towns to ridiculous feats like airplanes signaling the power of a friendly family. Keep in mind that most active members of the Mafia are at most in their thirties, while their high ranking ones are either secluded and hidden in their mansions or stay safely behind bars, all aspects that were shown in the manga rather faithfully.
No.747859
>>747474
>Passione should be structured like hell.
That was Risotto, kind of. He certainly had the death/demon aesthetic.
No.747874
>>747474
>Jolyne and Foo Fighters are the only memorable characters
I'd say Weather Report and Hermes are memorable.
>some stands are carbon copies of other earlier ones
No more than Sex Pistols a copy of Emperor and Mirror Man a copy of Hanged Man. Also Little Feet and Sethan.
And yeah, Araki wanted to stop doing Jojo for a while. He just makes other things and ties jojo in somehow for name recognition.
No.747911
>>747874
>No more than Sex Pistols a copy of Emperor
Bullets or gun are not magical, it's literally Sex Pistol arching them, plus they act as an extra hand to Mista
>Mirror Man a copy of Hanged Man
Hanged Man works in reflections, Man in the Mirror exclusively with mirror shards. Plus the latter is about crossing planes, not straight up murdering people from the other side.
>Little Feet and Sethan
They do two completely different things you're just reaching now
Marilyn Manson is a straight out copy of Osiris, even its user does the same stupid quotes. C-Moon copies another Stand from earlier on in the part, Jumpin' Jack Flash, except they add the ability to reverse the insides of people to make sure no one can touch Pucci, Limp Bizkit is just Justice but with a dead user. Maybe this one gets a pass since it's ghosts and not zombies but pretty much the same deal.
>And yeah, Araki wanted to stop doing Jojo for a while. He just makes other things and ties jojo in somehow for name recognition.
Which is even more baffling, since you'd expect him to go full on fan pandering with it to stay relevant but avoid having to think too much about it, yet nothing he's doing is any interesting.
Also I'm assuming you meant that one off collab where he drew of bizarre people throughout history? That was pretty damn great.
No.747916
>>747874
>araki
>remembering things
Anon, Araki forgot that he made part two.
Let that sink in, he remembered Joseph from part three and four, but Caesar, Stroheim, and Lisa Lisa caused him to draw a blank. He could remember what fashion magazines he pulled poses from while making them, but he couldn’t remember the characters themselves.
No.747922
>>747916
>Stroheim
He remembered something.
No.747928
>>747916
Not talking about remembering plot points, that's what autistic fanbases are here for. I'm talking flat out doing fan-pandering shit like >>747922 since he can't be arsed to make an engaging story.
No.748104
>>747916
>literally forgetting one of the best two parts
What the fuck.
No.748620
Just finished reading it. Giorno is the blandest giogio so far. He started quite well showing that arrogance of his father with the "i don't like repeating myself" catch phrase. Unfortunatley this attitude of his can be only seen where he spams muda muda in fights. The gang is pretty fun with bruno and mista being the best characters which also have the most interesting fights. The fights in this part are so many and the pauses so short that I kinda got bored with most of them especially with how predictable some of them were not sure this is because of all the jojo I have watching/reading or the most of the fights were not written well enough . Overall part 5 is alright, I would like to see to animated as some the fights would be more enjoyable and less mindfucky(king crismon, man in the mirror, oasis etc.) to watch animated.
No.748622
>>748620
I feel Part 5 is the one that would benefit most from an anime adaptation. So the fact they aren't on that shit right now is constantly upsetting.
No.748668
>>748622
Well, they had to do Thus said Kishibe Rohan.
No.748750
Can I just skip Vento Aureo and keep reading?
I'm usually the kind of person to keep going through bad parts if I expect the parts to follow to be better, but part 5 just bored me so much I dropped it.
How much would I miss out on?
No.748760
>>748750
It is never referenced again after. But you should still read it to understand how King Crimson works and to see Polnareff turn into a turtle. Also there are Requiem stands.
No.748785
>>748760
So it's not like with part 1-4 where the previous characters are mentioned? or are they just less significant?
No.748789
>>748785
Koichi from Part 4 shows up for the first few chapters and there's mentions of Rohan teaching him Italian with his stand, but other than that.. No. After it's done, it stays done. You can jump right past it and not miss a thing. Part 6 is more of a direct sequel to Part 4 than 5 is.
No.748792
>>748789
You mean Rohan just wrote into Koichi that he knows Italian?
I know this applies to 50% of all stands past part 3 but man, what CAN'T this stand do?
No.748810
>>748792
It can't insult josuke's hairstyle.
No.748816
>>748810
If Rohan can just give someone knowledge (the he himself doesn't have, presumably), than why didn't they use it while going after kira?
No.748818
>>748816
Why didn't jotaro just use time stop a billion fucking times while chasing Kira before he got to the aesthetician's place?
No.748822
>>748818
Well, the way I rationalize these kind of things to myself (things like "why didn't he do it a billion times" or "why didn't he do it but on a much bigger scale") is by assuming that whenever he uses his stand it takes energy, for the same reason you can't run indefinitely he can't za warudo indefinitely.
This doesn't help me with stands like crazy diamond or echoes, since they're description is so broad they're essentially omnipotent.
No.748823
>>748822
Okay, but then why didn't whatshisface use The Hand to teleport Kira back to him or the other way around? If you're gonna say that he's a retard and couldn't have thought of it, why didn't Josuke, Jotaro or Koichi think of it?
No.748827
>>748823
If you're expecting anything other than "because the plot needed to move forward", I've got nothing.
No.748841
>>748622
>>748668
How much Rohan do they need to do? Aren't those just little OVA shorts?
No.751227
>>745524
Jojo hasn’t been interesting to me for quite some time.