No.738363
It also looks like they are previewing the first episode on the 1st during the Dengeki Bunko event. I'm going to miss the Kino design from the original anime.
No.738413
This does not exactly fill me with hope.
No.738414
>>738363
Round Kino was weird at first, but now I'm going to miss it.
>>738413
Was it the CG?
No.738445
>>738351
alright lets give this a chance
>ah, cool atmospheric ope-
>immediately cuts to shit dance music
>nonono
>shows off some of the beatiful CG motorcycle
>please stop
>k-on moeshit tea and cake
>JUST
I really hope this is just marketing. If they think this is how they should sell this, fuck that.
No.738447
>>738445
*beautiful, dammit
No.738452
>>738363
>>738414
I thought the original Kino design was really cute. It's a shame they've gone for a more generic and less loli-like design.
I think the CG is fine, at least for vehicles and other mechanical things, but I don't like how they seem to have failed to capture the wistful tone of the original.
No.738465
>>738413
And here I thought this was something to look forward to. Figures they'd botch it from the word go.
No.738474
>>738445
You forgot how she doesn't have the trenchcoat.
I might be mistaken on this, but isn't the japs pretty bad when it comes to PV and trailers in general?
Like how a PV might completely misrepresent what the show is actually going to be about. I can't think of any example of this, but I'm sure I've seen one.
No.738478
No.738492
>>738414
Mostly the music, and something about the visuals. It didn't have to look exactly like the original series, but it seems so uninspired and generic.
And none of the actual content of what we're seeing look much at all like the fables of Aesop on motorcycles.
No.738535
>>738445
I'm not even giving this one a chance. The fact that they used cg is enough, if the studio doesn't care enough to do it right I'm not going to waste my time.
No.738537
>Around 45s
>Wheel start spinning immediately when she uses the kickstart.
Now I'm not an expert in old british motorcycles, but this is not how it's supposed to happen.
No.738541
How is it possible to botch something so hard? Are these people retarded? I don't mind the change in how Kino looks, although I prefer the old one. The backgrounds look like crap, they're both generic and poorly done (looking at those buildings makes me want to puke), Hermes is CG pigshit, music is unfitting, and the animations are stupid looking. The people in charge of this should be disemboweled, the only thing it's succeeded in doing is making me want to watch the original again.
No.738920
>all that 3D
At least the guns look like they're still 2D.
No.738954
Well, the atmosphere really change on this one, hopefully they keep the same seiyuu for Kino, or atleast a good replacement.
No.738959
>>738954
The VA is different for Kino, it'll be Aoi Yuuki this time. Anons might recognize the voice from something recent since she did the voice for the Aho last season.
No.738965
>>738959
Well i guess the Madoka VA is a good substitute, Aoi's performances in general are pretty solid, nothing to complain about that one.
No.738980
>>738959
From the trailers it sounds pretty good.
It sounds a little more "energetic" than the old VA, but I'll wait until the first episode until I decide whether I like it or not.
No.738987
>>738351
>it's literally all 3DCG
No.739183
>>738920
Just to clarify, do you only not like it when computers are used for the final shading step (textures, lighting, etc.), or do you also oppose using them for generating the initial sketch before it is painted over by a human?
I don't see any reason not to use computers for doing all of the initial linework for rigid objects. Computers are better than any human at performing perspective transformations. 3DCG is more annoying when it's used on biological things, especially major characters. Even then one or two shows like Nichijou have managed to use it sparingly to good effect.
Most of the worst examples of 3DCG are down to laziness, not the particular choice of tools. They would have been just as bad if the same minimal budget was spent on hiring unqualified animators and animating at 4FPS.
No.739201
>>738445
The music was what really bothered me. I hope they have an actually comfy OP and ED like from the original series or this is going to really bother me.
No.739427
>>739183
>Just to clarify, do you only not like it when computers are used for the final shading step (textures, lighting, etc.), or do you also oppose using them for generating the initial sketch before it is painted over by a human?
Another anon here.
Have you read Negima? It's a manga with some amazing backgrounds that are incredibly consistent. I was kinda blown away, and then some extras in one of the volumes mentioned that they made references with CGI and in some cases used them for straigtht up linework. Now, CG in that context, for flat images, can work, but it needs to be consistent with everything around it. It worked with Negima because of that consistency. In anime, it's a lot harder to reach this consistency, and it's much more common that the CG sticks out like a sore thumb. So that's why a lot of anons have this sort of reaction.
No.739435
>>739427
The weird thing is, people seem to react badly to CGI when it's done reasonably well, but just ignore it when it's actually bad. Take Made in Abyss for example. The scenes where the camera flies down vertically into the abyss are painfully obvious CGI, complete with repeating textures and practically no radial depth (despite the abyss being a fairly structurally complex environment). I haven't seen anyone complain about CGI in that.
Here though, my only thought when I initially saw Hermes was "that looks really smoothly animated". I have far bigger issues with the character design than I do with the use of CGI.
No.739447
>>739435
I don't know, it's not so much the animation of Hermes that's the problem. The frame rate difference is really jarring. The fact that Kino herself is modeled sticks out like a sore thumb. I can tolerate CG for the background, or shots with fast camera panning, but when they're literally the two main characters. It looks ridiculous.
No.739452
>>739447
I hadn't actually noticed that she's 3D modelled in some of the scenes too. I thought it was just the very generic design which made her look weird. I hope they don't resort to too much 3D Kino.
Also, I just watched the new PV again and the thing that sticks out most is how unnatural the dog's jaw movements look. It's like its jaw hinge is in completely the wrong place.
https://youtu.be/ij21njEpveg?t=66
No.739453
I thought this thing aired like 15 years ago.
No.739460
>>739452
You're right, what the hell is this. I think they were just too lazy to redraw the joining of the jaw and the face.
No.741507
What did you all think of SHAFT Kino?
No.741514
>>741507
Pretty good. The story that really stuck to me for a reason I don't really know is the one involving the people working on a railroad.
No.741529
>>739453
So did Berserk.
>>741507
It's alright, if she wasn't supposed to look like a boy, then again the manga changed her to look sorta like that eventually anyway, oh well.
>>741514
The story where people used robots to impose work on themselves was one of my favorites, because I related to the depression of not doing anything with my time, until I forced myself to go out and get a job, and now I want to die because of that.
No.741542
Where are the scan lines?
No.741546
>>741540
Aesop's Fables with Nakamura's genius and, most important, the scan lines.
No.742910
No.742944
Good policy, what a nice country.
>The last scene is the first scene
I really like these kind of things.
No.742963
Not bad. I wish there wasn't so much CG, and the soundtrack doesn't stand out as much as the old anime, but I liked it. Also I want to live in that country.
No.742979
>>738351
>her first animu role was in Kino no Tabi
>Now she is Kino
I like that, actually.
No.742991
>>742979
That's another one for the "girls you couldn't save" thread.
No.743013
Surprisingly solid, given the PV and other preview material. I like Hermes' voice.
No.743021
I like that the country had an american western aesthetic, it fit well.
No.743023
No.743055
I was worried by the PV too but this episode felt right somehow, even with the cgi and differences in aesthetic.
No.743069
It was good. If the whole series is going to be self-contained stories about a girl visiting various strange city-states on her bike then it'll be solid.
No.743074
>>743069
That's what the entire premise is about. If you haven't watched original Kino, go do so. It's leagues above this one so far.
No.743083
>>743074
Will check it out. Thanks for the rec.
No.743099
I recently watched the original and this one didn't feel quite right.
Some things that bothered me:
> No coat
> Kino feels more feminine
> Kino seems to have more of a "good mood" compared to the original which is more calm, sad, neutral, wondering
> tons of CG
>The music is mediocre.
>Feels like they will do the reverse of "show don't tell"
>side characters felt a little try hard, specially the murderer guy
I might be reading to much into it but it definitely felt inferior so far. I don't know why but I cried at half of the episodes of the original and this one didn't made me feel things
No.743116
>>743099
It's been a long time for me and I don't remember the previous series so clearly, but I think it's likely for this season ease into more emotional elements later on for the benefit of new viewers. We'll soon see.
No.743117
>>738351
It seems to use the current artstyle of the LN rather than the early style, and has a more generic and less unique style than the other anime. Can't say anything about the new artstyle though, as it's by the same illustrator as the older artstyle.
The scan lines too, as they were probably a decision by the other studio indepent from the LN, so a different studio copying it in a reboot might not be a good idea.
Gunslinger girl for example changed studios and one version was gritty and dark while the other was colorful. You have to consider we have a bias to whichever comes first and label it "original", but in the end both this one and the older anime aren't perfect to the LN, which is the actual original.
The LN doesn't even start with this order. After forest b there's a chapter with a country where peoples pain are shared, though I haven't read anything beyond the first chapter itself.
Also looking up some things made me notice some weird shit, writer of Kino no tabi has written a SAO spin-off and it's supposed to get an anime. What the fuck.
He's also written an LN titled "男子高校生で売れっ子ライトノベル作家をしているけれど、年下のクラスメイトで声優の女の子に首を絞められている" or "I'm A High School Boy and a Successful Light Novel Author, But I'm Being Strangled By A Female Classmate Who's A Voice Actress And Is Younger Than Me", this is taking memes too far.
He's also written a Kino no tabi spin-off where she is a high school girl with a phone strap named Hermes, what the fuck is going on.
No.743120
>>743117
>He's also written a Kino no tabi spin-off where she is a high school girl with a phone strap named Hermes
What the? I wonder if it's any good.
No.743140
>>743117
I have a hard time believing you, but I want to.
No.743147
Well this wasn't nearly as bad as I thought. The episode was actually well executed.
I think the main problem is the visuals, specifically the jarring composition of different mediums. Sure, the drawn art looks very nice and it's certainly more technically advanced than the original series. However, there's a clear lack of attention to detail. Look at the scenery parallax effects, the CG fortress walls, the choppy motorrad, and the oddly flat looking water and lakes. If the foreground art itself looked low budget, it might be fine. Instead you've got lens flares, bloom, crisp lines and over-saturation combined with an ugly looking composition. The end result is distracting.
It comes off as executive meddling, or a clash of interests. Like >>743099 said, instead of the original's toned down and stripped back aesthetic, it looks they caved under pressure to make it bigger and flashier.
also
>pic related
this just a translator error?
No.743170
You know you arrive at a safe country when Charles Bronson is the border guard.
The voices sounded fine, but I did not really like Hermes new voice, the older one is better.
Kino also sounds a bit too happy, but maybe I'm just a bit nitpicky since I binged the old season before this aired.
No.743171
>They recycled the CG animation of Kino stopping to greet the other traveler.
Wow.
No.743172
>>743147
I do know that Kino uses the term "boku" when talking about herself.
Or it's as you say, the translator thinks she's a boy.
No.743177
>>743170
Sorry. I could not resist..
No.743202
>>743117
Second pic is the best Kino.
No.743220
No.743231
>>743147
>>743172
My understanding is very limited and Hermes is talking very fast, but it seems like a quirk that's relying the perception of the listener, the old man, to infer a pronoun that isn't there, maybe.
No.743268
>>743117
One of the LN epilogues also had the author talking about an idea he had for a theoretical plotline where Kino goes to space to fight demons.
Either way, I'm a huge fan of Kuroboshi Kouhaku's art.
No.743502
So we're going to see repeat stories from the first season?
No.743516
Wasn't the point of kino's design was that she could easily pass for a boy? Hell I thought she was a boy for a majority of the series. This shit is so unambiguously feminine. And I know about the LNs and shit but jesus. I don't think I'll be able to stomach this.
No.743529
>>743516
That's a good point
If you where in the middle of nowhere and you have the opportunity to rape kino; Would you rape old kino and/or new kino?
Old kino could be gay, and new kino is good enough to tell your friends that you thought it was a girl.
No.743654
>>743529
...I may have read a fanfic with this premise. It ended with Kino blowing the rapist's brains out after the deed was done.
No.743666
>>743529
I'd have them fuck eachother.
No.743808
>>743147
I've just watched the episode and I agree with pretty much everything. Everything except the visuals was great. It's also nice to see that they aren't just doing an episode-for-episode remake of the original. I enjoyed it, but I still miss roundhead Kino.
>>743529
I wouldn't really want to rape Kino at all, but if I had to choose I'd rape old Kino. She had more of a cute tomboyish loli vibe about her.
She's better suited to being adopted as a daughteru though.
No.745886
The old colosseum episode was better in every way.
It's also a bit unfair to compare them, since it got two episodes and a bunch of characterization.
Also the design and story for the country in the old one was way more interesting.
No.745901
>>745886
This version of the country felt like it went by at a breakneck pace compared to the original series since it was only one episode. Without the characterization and the slower pace the tone of the fights became silly instead of being more tense. I hope by making this a single episode that other countries get more attention.
No.745939
>>743654
kino blows peoples heads out anyway
No.745985
>>745939
I've had my suspicions after the OVA where she first kills someone, and given how many knives and guns she carries, and the fact that she never stays in one place for long.
But is it ever really confirmed if Kino works as a hitman?
No.745996
>>745886
>>745901
It felt a lot faster because instead of the puppet show explaining how the king took power we were just told how the king took power. Cutting out the tour of the city was probably a good idea though, it's pretty obvious when Kino enters the city that it's Detroit.
No.746043
>>743654
The subtext with that being that kino was only letting them rape her, before disposing of them?
No.746067
>>745985
Probably not, then again I have not read the LN.
From the old show (which I think is told achronologically) she grows more accustomed to killing the more she travels, but she avoids violence if she can.
No.746117
>>745886
The old ones were better. Although the new one did improve in some aspects, like getting the 22LR gun shot sound effect right. Actually they seem to have dropped those obnoxious stock sound effects altogether, which I appreciate. They also explained how she made that explosive bullet (pic related). That's about it though.
No.746852
>>746117
They did show she made explosive bullet in the old one, but it was not explained like it was in this one.
And then it was a massive fire ball instead and decided to use the loading lever as a foregrip.
No.748569
Origin episode when?
Can't wait to see the improved male Kino.
No.748743
Why did she suddenly want to stay five to ten days? Thought she had some kind of rule to only stay three days in each country. Pretty neat episode otherwise.
No.748768
>>746852
>but it was not explained like it was in this one
Really the only improvement, in the original I thought he (female) was boiling gun oil or something, and as a result that "huge explosive bullet" seemed like an asspull to me.
But I really hate how they change the town as a whole (non-citizen underclass and decadent citizens vs. apparently all inhabitants being citizens), the king not being shown to be insane with that puppet-theather and the sword guy being his son thus not getting foreshadowed during it.
And the banter with the dog and Hermes was a lot of fun in the original.
Kino's new law was a lot better, because it left the downtrodden alone and only got forced the patricians to kill each other, and didn't sentence the entire town to death.
No.748780
>>748743
She first went to the walled off country, they asked for the Woodsman as a payment to let her pass through the country. She didn't want to give it up, so she arrived to where she was in the beginning of the ep. She happened to run into the moving country, and made a random estimate for how long it would take them to pass through the walled off country, hence the five-to-ten.
No.748786
No.748807
What a great episode. While the original was better in practically every way, new Kino gives us more stories like this one. I hope people didn't drop it because of the shitty Colosseum adaptation.
I also quite like the OST for this Kino.
No.748907
>>748807
I agree. I didn't expect to enjoy this new series, but it's actually pretty good. The stories still have the same abstract, thoughtful quality which made the original so interesting. Even the art style is growing on me a bit.
No.748973
I wonder what happened to have the world's nations be this fragmented and secluded to the point of developing such different cultures and technology levels.
No.749009
>>743268
>One of the LN epilogues also had the author talking about an idea he had for a theoretical plotline where Kino goes to space to fight demons.
You mean Kino being a Space bounty hunter? Like Samus? That could be really, really cool. She could even visit a Blame!-like place.
No.749199
people in the moving country where dicks.
No.749211
>>748807
> I hope people didn't drop it because of the shitty Colosseum adaptation
I'm going to stick with it, I'm expecting other countries to get more of a focus in this adaptation.
No.749303
>>749199
I still don't get why those guys with the ATGM-jeeps didn't just aim for the treads
No.749324
I have a question regarding this particular scene. Kino seemed to have already been agitated by something at the start of the scene, before Hermes hints at the possibility that the lady in white wanted Kino to die. Why was Kino already angry?
Also, why was Kino angry at the lady in white's "advice"? Didn't Kino already intend to go there anyway? And how could Kino have built up a bond with the lady in white that was strong enough for Kino to care that somebody that was trusted betrayed her? Kino, from what I've seen thus far, seems quite comfortable with the idea of killing others and I saw in the first episode, she's quite attentive and perceptive to the behaviour of people. It's especially the part where Hermes asks her if she's mentally prepared for anything that I believe that she must be a grounded, realistic individual. I figured Kino would be comfortable with the idea of there being people that would attempt to lie to or swindle her but she seemed agitated by the lie. What kind of bond does she form with that married couple? If it's not the bond that causes pain, then what? What was that scene about at all?
I ask because I get the impression that even if I'd watched the first anime adaptation of this series, there are some things that only those that are familiar with the written material will understand so, without spoiling too heavily hopefully, I'd like to be filled in.
No.749343
>>748807
I skipped the Colosseum episode, and only watched 1 and 3. The moving city looked pretty comfy. I thought it was interesting that Kino decided to stay much longer there. Maybe she thought a traveling country was perfect for her? She even slept in instead of getting up and practicing her quick draws. Anyway, it'd be a shame if they all died in a core meltdown.
No.749566
>>749343
I believe another post explained this, stating that Kino had already tried to go through that walled country but they wanted her gun in exchange for permitting her to pass through and she didn't want to surrender it so her reason for deciding to be in the moving country for five days was because she predicted that this would be a long enough period of time for the moving country to pass through the walled country.
I believe they did mention in the episode that the walled country maintained itself by parasitically leeching off of wanderers and travellers but I don't think it was hinted (at least not in this anime adaptation) that she was sticking with the moving country for the reasons stated. I believe this info is being pulled from the LNs. Do read the thread.
No.750749
I feel like things might have escalated a bit too quickly towards the end there.
No.750750
They cut some corners with this. Instead of presenting the Tower Clan as morally ambiguous and just tricking the viewer into thinking they were bad, they outright made them behave like moderately bad tyrannical rulers and the twist wasn't that great.
No.751526
>>749324
I think Kino was already angry because she realized by then that the lady had wanted her to die; Hermes' lines were only to let the viewer know what had happened. As to why Kino was angry about it, I'm not really sure, but she could have been angry at herself for not realizing the lady betrayed her until it was too late to matter.
No.751535
>>749324
>>751526
In the first place, did the lady want her to die? Maybe I missed something, but my impression was that rather than wanting Kino dead, she wanted everyone else dead, and used Kino to that end.
No.752065
>>751535
>she wanted everyone else dead, and used Kino to that end.
What do you mean? The lady wanted everyone else dead in a sort of "if I'm miserable then no one should be allowed to be happy" sense or she, believing in Kino's ability, wanted Kino to kill everyone there?
No.752084
>>752065
The latter. Not that I remember if she ever had any reason to think so.
No.752239
>>750749
The last moving country was really good though; I don't understand. Hopefully this doesn't affect the rhythm of the rest of the anime.
No.753841
I saw the twist coming from the moment they introduced the concept when Kino entered the country but I didn't see the other one
No.753842
>this episode
I liked it though. It was a relief that their relationship was actually genuine instead of his girl feeding him that tortuous lie like she made Kino think. Although the first half did end up reminding me how utterly bizarre it is that motorcycles have souls in this universe.
No.754034
I do hope that the boy ends up taking the president's motorad
No.754070
>>753842
>how utterly bizarre it is that motorcycles have souls in this universe.
You mean the best kind of universe.
No.754093
>>754034
>Being kept in perfect condition, effectively being forced into eternal life
>Being denied ones reason for living and having no ability to pursue it by ones own action
This truly is Hell by all definitions.
No.754376
>>753842
>Although the first half did end up reminding me how utterly bizarre it is that motorcycles have souls in this universe.
It really does raise a lot of questions.
Then again, lots of aspects of the setting are very weird, like the sharp contrast in technology levels between adjacent countries.
No.754445
>>754376
I've liked that the countries can vary in technological advancement, it means that more stories can be told since Kino can go anywhere from a barely industrial country to one that is completely run by robots.
No.754649
>>754376
>>754445
This. The technology levels, the varying tech levels and random strange bits, like the fact that some animals and machines can talk, are exactly the kind of things I want from a series that's about adventure and exploration. I guess it's time for me to marathon the old series and it's movies.
No.755681
>>754649
I've watched it now. Great stuff, I'm glad that I didn't get spoiled on anything yet. The old version of "Coliseum" was better paced but I'm also glad that they didn't spend two episodes on it. I also preferred the new duel with Shizu, as well the way the king got shot (what was up with Hadouken superbullet in the old version?).
I'm not spoiling anything, in case there's others who haven't watched it but I do hope we'll get to see the episode in winter, the one with the books, the one in which she get's the "Woodsman" gun or the one in which she get's a haircut. and I'm pretty sure we'll see the one in which she meets Hermes. I really enjoyed the more "abstract" episodes too. Some of them almost felt like science fiction short stories or something from the Twilight Zone.
Anyways, have some smug Kinos I picked up along the way.
No.755845
>>749566
>>749343
It was pretty much spelled out.
No.756680
I want to tell her that everything will be okay.
No.756735
>Slave-chan went to become adult sadistic-photo-chan
No.756744
>>756742
This is my biggest gripe with Kino, they always write bad people as comically evil edgelords. They did a piss poor job at convincing me that the treatment Photo got was somehow a natural consequence, they had no reason to treat her like complete garbage going by their characterization.
No.756751
>>756744
>Merchants
>No Reason
No.756752
>>756744
That's anime. Typically the way to reveal that someone is a villain is to make them talk is an absurdly exaggerated way, give them silly exaggerated expressions and throw in some shit to really hammer home that THIS GUY IS A BAD GUY. They really like racism or dislike of other social groups for that last one just so MC person can do that incredibly predictable thing where they launch into a speech about how other people are actually just the same as us!!! to which everyone else will do that swallowing ghuh noise and be stunned into silence. Oh, or they reveal that "I actually never liked you at all, in fact I'm so evil that I just used you while lying to you". All this shit is so absurdly common in anime that I'm surprised you don't find this par for the course.
No.756757
>>756752
It wasn't like this in the original Kino.
I think it was the first episode. Kino stops to help 3 old normal guys that were dying of hunger in a snowstorm, later to be revealed that they were slave traders or something like it and even though there was some very subtle hints and a "something might doesn't feel right" atmosphere, the animu actually got me and I bet it got a bunch of people.
No.756760
>>756757
The original also took many liberties in how people behaved to drive points home, but I guess it wasn't quite this heavy-handed.
No.756766
>>756757
>It wasn't like this in the original Kino.
Spoilers to anyone who hasn't seen the original series. Our daugther doubt our teachings once, guess we'll muder her.We won't make war against each other, so we'll slaughter those tribals like animals.I can't tell anyone that I don't like building that tower, my people would cement into it. It had quite a few evil characters, just that nobody ever got emotional over it.
>>756742
>>756744
I'd say everything besides that boy's speech was pretty reasonable. While it varied by country, culture and standing, treating slaves like absoloute shit wasn't something uncommon in the real world. It's no like they are hurting an other human, it's a slave, trade goods. Why should treat them good, especially if they are shitty wares that don't work right?
No.756798
>>756766
Those two first examples you posted aren't evil like the kid that wanted to become a man by butchering a girl.
In the first example that was more "let's kill her because she is broken", and not "let's kill her because I'm a mans man who don't give a shit about human life".
No.756808
>>756798
I'd say those situations were pretty evil but I really preferred the way they shown back then. Just imagine if the kid was way calmer and just said something like "She's usless as a work force and can't even eat right. If you just plan on throwing her away, can I kill her instead?". They shouldn't have given him that maximum edge speech, >>756742 the rest was fine is all I'm saying.
No.757220
>Nagito's seiyuu, Ogata Megumi, is the voice of Sou the little scooter.
Should expect that voice to pop up around mass killings.
No.757265
>>757220
If you want to go that road, you might recognize Kino's seiyuu from everything. Including a character from the old anime. >>742979
No.757292
>>757265
She's also Peashy from Neptunia.
No.757508
>>756757
It was the second episode but yes they were extremely kind to her, but you got a feeling that there was a twist coming.
>>756808
I agree, toning it down would have made it a lot better since it would seem like it was a detached decision. The speech was over-the-top and was a cheap way to make the people more unlikable when the previous scenes already did that.
No.759048
It is a master episode this time, this episode is a bit more lighthearted compared to last weeks.
No.759049
I enjoyed this episode. Things went a bit too smooth for my taste but I really liked the sepia effect and seeing some more of Master.
No.759152
>>759049
I'm wondering if Master may have embellished or left out some things from her account, the episode seemed to want the viewer to decide which account was more accurate: Kino's or the one the townspeople chose to remember with the plaque.
No.759363
Kino sure got spooked when she thought Hermes suggested that Master was there.
No.759386
>>759152
>the episode seemed to want the viewer to decide which account was more accurate
I think the canes made it pretty clear
No.759434
>>759152
The version Kino told is what actuall happened. "Two heroes rebelled against our rotten government" is a lie they tell others and themselves, since it is easier to accept than "we pissed off the wrong travelers and they held the whole country hostage for it".
No.759438
>>759434
It seems like folks should be scared when travelers show up.
No.759489
>>759438
Nah, that's like two amongst millions I guess. However, it did show them what happens when you fuck with the wrong people and it might have lead to the population wanting a change in their politics.
No.760028
>>739435
>people seem to react badly to CGI when it's done reasonably well, but just ignore it when it's actually bad
People are biased against the Medium, it being shit validates their prejudice and (hopefully) discourages others from taking it as far or farther in the future. It being good threatens to encourage others to let the style encroach on other projects they don’t want to see rendered in CG.
No.760983
>>756808
Is that how Shadow delivered the line originally? I seem to remember a more stern, serious delivery. When he says "which is fine by me", that part of the sentence was deeper in my memory. It was a bit more stern or grave. Here however, he seems joyful and warm somehow. I remember it being delivered in a much more sinister way (or rather, an attempt at looking sinister).
No.761749
>It's a Shizu episode
I Realy enjoyed it way more than I thought I would. The story was pretty 2003Kino-like and I loved the fact that the country was just 80s US.
Also, Ti is the most kuudere loli to eve take a baby hostage with a hand grenade.
No.761841
>>761749
Watching Ti eat was cute in this episode.
No.764784
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At first, I was worried that this might be an other episode with no Kino. Luckily I was wrong. I really enjoyed the short-story format of this one and the ending message was amazingly heartwarming.
Spoilerd so I don't ruin the firsthand experience for those who care.
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No.764947
>>764784
The very last country was probably my favorite of the episode, it was an idea that is scary to imagine happening but something I could see people consenting to.
No.765033
I wonder how this series will handle this one.
No.766783
>>765033
I dunno how they'll handle it, but I know how I will.
No.767297
I noticed something while checking the raw LN after watching the episode, Kino doesn't ask Hermes to guess what she's thinking in the LN. After reading the letter she thinks for a little while then says「エゴだよ……。これはエゴだ」but this is all she says about the letter. It's unclear who she's calling egotistical.
Then Hermes comforts her and says "Yeah maybe, but can't do anything now. Either way travelling with two riders would be impossible." This is all they talk about the letters in the LN.
It's also important to note parents say "大変身勝手な行動だと思われるかも知れませんが、あの娘は、私達が連れていきます" about taking her with them and of course 身勝手 has a dictionary definition of "selfishness; egoism; egotism".
This part is weird because if I had read it before watching the anime I'd assume Kino is calling the parents egoists for deciding to take Sakura to death with them, and Hermes is comforting her by saying we couldn't have taken her anyways.
I'm not sure if they added those lines to the scene to make Kino more edgy or something. But I think Kino would've taken Sakura to drop her off later if she knew they were all going to die, they got pretty close together and Kino even got reminded of her past for a second. You really can't make out "I'm glad they didn't make me haul her around" from the LN, makes me wonder what else they added or removed.
No.767314
>>767297
>You really can't make out "I'm glad they didn't make me haul her around" from the LN
Wasn't in the original series, either. Kinda fucked with the pacing of other scenes to squeeze that in.
No.767483
The episode kinda lacked the impact of the old one but I wouldn't really say it was done badly. The problem was just that I knew everything from the moment I saw the title.
I hope this Sakura will voice Kino, if they do an other series in 10 years. That would be the most obscure anime tradition ever.
No.767490
>>767483
There are a lot of stories to cover with Kino no Tabi.
>Each successive series of KnT covers a different collection of stories but always has to have a "Kind Country" episode
No.767530
>>767314
>Kinda fucked with the pacing
True. I got what she meant since I watched the original but to other people it must have sounded like "Boy, I sure am glade she burned to her death!".
No.767542
>>767297
>I'm not sure if they added those lines to the scene to make Kino more edgy or something.
This might be kinda far fetched but I assume she would have refused if Sakura had asked to travel with her. Maybe she is implying that she would have felt like she's the one responsible for haer death, had Sakura actually wanted to join her.
No.767639
>>767483
I wonder how they will handle country of adults.
No.767974
>>767639
As long as the traveler is likeable it should be fine. They could either have it just start and then show it is a flashback of Kino's past or have something that reminds Kino of that country.
No.769800
This was awful, the new Kino is so different and how it plays.
It's like they never saw the original and just read a resume.
No.769994
>>769800
I liked how the original had him look older than this new version.
No.770457
>>769800
I the new series has two problems. It's not that good at establishing things and it needs to calm down some more.
For example, the scene in which we see youngKino for the first time, when manKino finds Hermes and the society where done much better in the old series.
The way the "adults" acted was also much better. Much more calm and robotic, fitting to their brainwashed society, less "burn the witch" like they acted in the new one. Actually, the mob in the first episode of 2017Kino acted much more fitting.
That being said, I don't think it is a bad series at all. It's just that the old one was so great. I wonder if firsttimers are enjoying it more than I am.
No.771385
>>767483
>We knew that the volcanic flow was going to come down the hill and crush our country.
>We didn't get out of the way because we built this country and our stubbornness and stupidity is what led to us being killed.
>We didn't even relocate the town, moving deeper into the woods or on the other side of the fucking hill to save our country.
Country of bakas more like. Poor Sakura.
No.771389
>>771385
Always wondered if it's a world where the motorads and other vehicles speak or the people that ride them give them personalities through schizophrenia.
No.771390
>>771385
Yeah, that land over life mentality is only understandable when dealing with an enemy invasion or something.
No.772208
I guess in this instance the edginess paid off, because most other anime would've just solved this in some humane way with no animals hurt, instead of going in guns blazing and massacring as many of them as possible.
No.772233
>>772208
Those sheep didn't fuck around, Kino and Hermes were lucky to get out.
No.772323
What a surreal episode. If it was the first one I had watched, I would have probably dropped this anime on account of not being able to take the show seriously.
No.772337
>>772233
Nothing Evil Kinovil couldn't handle.
No.772341
This episode had some QUALITY.
No.772511
What a weird episode to end the series on. Seems like it should have aired two episodes earlier.
Did they just remember that it was supposed a 12 episode series and just brainstormed a story like a Dethklok song title?
>Let's do one Sheepicide! It's about some guy in a car who breaks his leg and then blows his brains out before he get's eaten by a bunch of sheep.
No.772523
Kill all the sheep, Kino.
Kill them all
No.772524
>>772511
Nothing says getting in the christmas spirit like the mass murder of sheep.
No.772651
Did they run out of budget or something?
No.772663
How did everyone feel about this iteration of Kino? Overall I thought it was pretty weak. I didn't think it was necessary to reshoot so many stories already covered by the old series. I enjoyed Shizu and his loli adventures, but there are also many Kino centered stories from the LN I would have preferred to see adapted instead. The visuals and music weren't bad, but lacked the character of the old series. Nothing about it was outstandingly bad, but I don't think it got the amount of love and care it deserves.
No.772746
>>772663
I heard that the episodes were picked via a Dengeki popularity poll, since there were ~20 years of stories to pick from.
No.772913
>>772663
I liked it, but I would have preferred to see more new stories with Kino. After a 10 year break redoing those two lands (Adults and Kind) is sort of expected. Redoing Coliseum when you don't need to was a little questionable and I'm not sure about the pacing of it this time around (but this run had the better ending though), but long term it panned out since the Shizu eps were damn nice. I'm overall very pleased with the second stringers getting some time in the sun. But as good as that stuff was, I wanted more Kino to go with it. It is her series, after all, and she just doesn't seem to be around half the time.
Personally I'd prefer it, in an ideal world, if this series was all Kino and then there was something else down the road that was Shizu/Master focused. Obviously given the state of things that's quite impossible, but I think that would have worked better. Then, having three remakes wouldn't have such an impact on the structure of the season.
I liked Yuki as Kino, I liked the new stuff as it occurred, and I thought the art direction was fine overall. Basically, I'd like to have more of that, and feel disappointed that things didn't go that way this time around.
No.772949
>>772746
The story I really would have liked to see adapted was the city of clones.
No.774523
>>772663
Focusing on other characters did give Kino little screentime unfortunately. I'm with the others in saying that just Kino's adventures by herself in new cities would have been great, that nuisance city that can't ever stop was a good episode. Wasn't a bad series but could be better.