No.901 [Last50 Posts]
What are fullchan's favourite shmups?
What are the mechanics that make you shit blood?
Are you a scrub that's never 1cc'd a single fucking thing?
I've been playing Psikyo's catalogue relentlessly lately. Not much progress with anything but Sengoku Aces, but tonnes of fun has been had.
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No.903
Parodius
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No.904
>>903Care to break down the series for a n00b, anon?
I was never a huge fan of Gradius, so I never got into the pacing of this spin-off, despite it looking utterly wonderful.
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No.907
Favorite shooters: Hellfire (gen), Mushihimisama Futari (360), Dogyuun (arcade), and Battle Mania 2 (gen)
I'm a scrub, but I've 1 CC'd Touhou 4, Touhou 8, and a bunch of console shooters such as MUSHA, Fireshark, and Battle Mania (1 and 2).
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No.908
>>907Fuck yeah, MUSHA!
What element did you use when 1cc'ing it?
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No.909
>>908Green lightning was my favorite.
Also, that looks like a cropped picture of Robo Aleste? I've never beaten that one with any number of credits. The difference in difficulty is considerable.
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No.910
>>909>green lightningI like the blue orbs because… anything to take extra hits for me. But the lighting is just so damn satisfying to use.
And yeah, it's Robo Aleste and its ramped-up difficulty.
Sengoku-period mechs are best mechs. More games need to give Nobunaga giant robots.
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No.941
PC master race reporting in.
My favorite so far is Tyrian 2000. Crunchy sound effects and mega-spacey music by Alexander Brandon and Andreas Molnar, goofy sci-fi epic across four episodes told partly through collectable data cubes and some well-drawn cutscenes, and loads of upgrades, customization, and secret levels. All around great retro shit, it takes me back.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0qYfHNhAAXU/UQVp9KYiC7I/AAAAAAAAC0E/D9_cr_cdFiI/s1600/Tyrian003.pngThat's not a mod. You can actually buy weapons that fire fruit late into the game.
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No.942
favorite: image fight
worst i've played: garegga
best psikyo is sol divide
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No.943
>>942What don't you like about Garegga?
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No.944
I absolutely fucking love cute-em ups. Harmful Park and Parodius are my two favourite games on the genre.
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No.948
>>942I want to like Sol Divide, but I'm getting awful hung up on the character sizes. It just feels uncomfortable.
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No.965
this shit, I fucking love it so much, I also finally 1cc'd it the other day, the only one I've managed to do though because I'm pretty shit at shumps ;_;
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No.966
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No.971
Project S-11.
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No.973
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>>965>>966What was your preferred armor?
And were you playing the TD version?
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No.992
>>943it was the worst thing to happen to stg (until touhou)
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No.995
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No.996
>>995shu
tin
gemu (
shoo
ting
game)
"shmup" is an ugly western term
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No.997
TOAPLAN STG Rankings
>you can't lose
''batsugun (normal)
outzone
slap fight
tiger-heli''
>easy
''fixeight
hellfire
vimana''
>medium
''batsugun (special)
daisenpuu
dogyuun
hishouzame
kyukyoku tiger
tatsujin
v-v''
>hard
''same! same! same!
zerowing''
>you can't win
tatsujin ou
thoughts?
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No.999
>>995Its what turbo autists call the shooter genre, yeah.
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No.1016
>>997Tiger Heli should be "can't win" category, at least for NES. It just seems to go on forever.
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No.1026
>>973normally I go with either Earth or Water, though I like Wind too, I don't really like the Fire one.
and yeah it was the Turbo Duo one, I did also play the Sega CD version once, I liked the remixed soundtrack (wasn't as good as the Turbo Duo soundtrack though) but the shooting sound effects were too loud and it seemed much easier, so Turbo Duo all the way
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No.1045
>>1026Nah, Sega CD soundtrack is better. Turbo has too much lead synth instead of guitar.
Everything else is worse, though. And, as you said, the higher tier attacks drown out the music anyway.
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No.1066
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Claymation's neat, also-
>All the fucking Commodore 64 remixes
It's cool as shit.
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No.1077
>>903this shit. right here.
i laughed. i cried. i got many furious boners.
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No.1079
>>1016This is true. Once you beat the final stage you start over from the beginning. Great game.
I've been replaying Truxton on Genesis. Not that hard but fun.
Also, would you all consider The Guardian Legend to be shmup? Only half the game is.
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No.1093
>>1079Wait tuxton isn't hard??? I can't get past the second level
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No.1095
>>1093yes, truxton is easy..
especially the english genesis/md version..
the japanese arcade version (tatsujin) is harder, but easy still..
>>1016>>1079tiger-heli loops infinitely like most toaplan games, but you've technically won after beating the first loop (4 stages)..
"you can't win" is a difficulty thing, not literal - try beating tatsujin ou (not truxton 2 which is easier) and i guarantee you won't make it past stage 3..
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No.1098
>>1093Shooter threads attract autist savants like flies to a corpse. You have to filter them out.
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No.1100
>>1079Mark Bussler smiles upon you
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No.1164
Not really, really retro but I want to talk about R-type final. It's so awesome and disappointing at the same time. It's addictive to get all the 101 ships, but the slowdown in most stages is so bad it becomes retarded and boring to go through. Is there a way to speed it up via emulation? I feel it could have been one of the greatest shmups of all time with some sensible coding.
Also my favorite shmup is mars matrix, it has the right rythm for me and is the only hard game I've ever managed to 1cc. I feel it hits all the right spots for shmup gameplay: fast, unforgiving but still gives you the tools to get better at it. The pre-rendered art style is kind of shitty but the gameplay is spotless.
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No.1184
>>1164>it has the right rythm for meI think this is really important.
There's many things I don't like about Strikers 1945 III but, for me, its curtains allow just enough wiggle room to make surviving them give me a sense of accomplishment; rather than feeling like I got through on dumb luck.
tl;dr: I like babby-mode curtain shooters.
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No.1218
>>942>favorite: image fightThe NES port was the first IREM game I played, and it's sequel is the only PC Engine CD game I have right now.
For me, it's a tossup as to whether Image Fight or Zanac is my favorite shmup.
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No.1223
>>1218>The game AI is the most interesting aspect of Zanac and will make every game experience different due to it's sophistication. The AI adapts to many aspects of the player, for example what weapons the player has and what level they are. Most importantly, if the player fires more, the AI reacts by sending more powerful enemies. The AI is designed to exploit any potential weakness in the player's current weapons and also how much of a threat the player presents due to the amount of shots fired and the power of the current weapons. This means that very few things are static in the game. The AI's difficulty can be lowered under several conditions, one being the destruction of a SART, a type of enemy that occasionally files along the sides of the screen then darts back up. On that note, the AI reacts very violently on the use of the Field Shutter and will send out many waves of enemies in an attempt to destroy the shield and the player. How common was this kind of TECHNOLOGY in retro shumps?
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No.1225
>>1223dynamic ai/difficulty (rank)? pretty common..
it usually comes in the form of not dying, not collecting surplus power-ups (or power-ups period, as in
soukyuugurentai), not bombing, killing too many enemies, etc.
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No.1239
Cho Aniki
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No.1273
Shmup threads should be on /v/ where they rightly belong. Why must you further disconnect this god tier genre from the rest of vidya fans?
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No.1289
>>1239Is this a solid shooter, or is its sole worth derived from lulz.
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No.1291
>>1273because retro shmups are infinitely better than the loli danmaku games that get pumped out today..
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No.1576
>>995No, Shoot (the) Target Game. Much cleaner sounding than shmup, as the other guy mentioned.
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No.1579
>>971this guy gets it.
My favs are probably project s-11, power strike 2 and axelay.
I've 1 cc'd raiden 2 and raiden fighters 1 & 2. Also ikaruga and r-type 3
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No.2369
>>992
No, that would be Ikeda/Cave. There was nothing wrong with Battle Garegga.
Traditional Shmup > Manic Shmup (Battle Garegga, Gunbird) >>>>> Danmaku (DDP, 2hu)
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No.2372
>>1576
>Shoot (the) Target Game
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No.2377
>>2372
I've known the genre as Shmup since the 90's
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No.2412
I'm not good or knowledgeable when it comes to shumps, but the last game I played was Gunbird and it's a whole lot of fun.
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No.2413
God tier: Konamishmups - Doujins
High Tier: Touhou / Psikyo
Medium Tier: Toaplan / Cave (pre-PGM) / Raizing
Low Tier: Taito / Treasure / Takumi / Irem / NMK / G-Rev
SHIT TIER: EUROSHMUPS / Cave (post-PGM) / Seibu / Technosoft
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No.2415
>>2412
While I think the majority of the regular cannon fodder is pretty boring, the bosses were pretty rad. And not-Doronjo and her crew were just delightful in general.
What's your fave character, anon?
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No.2417
>>2415
Marion, with Yuan being second place.
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No.2432
>What are fullchan's favourite shmups?
Pic related.
>What are the mechanics that make you shit blood?
Silvergun/Ikaruga scoring.
>Are you a scrub that's never 1cc'd a single fucking thing?
I've one coin cleared around a dozen shmups.
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No.2443
Don't mind me, just the best Famicom shmup you've never heard of coming through.
Any shmups where you can play as people instead of ships that you would reccomend? ESP.Ra.De is cool.
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No.2445
>>2443
Fixeight, Out Zone, Smash TV
there was another really cool vertical one that was basically Running Man the shmup but I can't remember the name
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No.2446
>>2445
What do you think of Ninja Commando?
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No.2453
>>2432
>I've one coin cleared around a dozen shmups
Rather than ask you to list them, as that would probably be pretty dull for everyone involved: what was the most difficult for you to clear? Was it also the most satisfying to bust?
Have you cleared them all via emulator, or some in the arcade?
>Batrider
Fave character?
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No.2468
>>901
You posted my waifu. Take this.
Also I've almost got the world record in this game after 6 months of autism
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No.2477
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No.2480
>>2468
>mfw I won't be that good in 12 months, let alone six
Is she legit your pilot of choice, or are you just waifufagging?
And autumn aside, are you good at other shmups, or have you been working on Sanic Wings exclusively in that time?
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No.2481
>>2480
I've always loved shmups but to get good at them you need to memorize tons of shit over a long period of time. And somehow, she is actually secretly the best scorer in sonic wangs and I think I'm the first even before the japanese to realize it. She's the fastest and her bomb stops time allowing you to collect medals at max value.
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No.2542
>what was the most difficult for you to clear?
I'd have to say Radiant Silvergun. That's one hell of an STG.
>Was it also the most satisfying to bust?
Yes, although the scoring routes don't feel as fun anymore.
>Have you cleared them all via emulator, or some in the arcade?
Emus and consoles. My arcades never had shmups in them…
>Fave character?
Miyamoto.
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No.2561
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>>2542
>RSG
Emulated, or did you buy a legit copy?
>Yes, although the scoring routes don't feel as fun anymore.
How many of you who are actually half decent at shmups feel that, at some point, "getting good" becomes too much of a chore and diminishes your love for the game? Or is the feeling of achievement in perfecting a run ultimately what makes the genre fun for you?
>My arcades never had shmups in them…
I never really cared for the genre a whole lot back when they were more plentiful. So I feel like while I definitely saved loadsa emone, I lost out on experiences that guys like you never even had a chance at…
Counteracting feels_bad_man.jpg with thread theme.
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No.2562
>>2561
>How many of you who are actually half decent at shmups feel that, at some point, "getting good" becomes too much of a chore and diminishes your love for the game? Or is the feeling of achievement in perfecting a run ultimately what makes the genre fun for you?
In the time I've been playing I could've learned electrical engineering or something. It's seriously a huge waste of time to go for anything beyond a 1cc or friendly competition.
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No.2600
>>2468
>only just noticed the "Save State Successfully Loaded" at the beginning
You cheeky little bugger.
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No.2601
>>2600
Well I didn't want to play to stage 19 just to record that
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No.2605
Gonna try and do a blind 1CC of this masterpiece, what should I expect?
>>2600
Nice 2600 GET.
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No.2608
>>2605
one of the more ebin toaplan games and a really annoying laser sound effect
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No.2609
>>2605
>Nice 2600 GET
Had I been paying attention to such /sp/ frippery, I assure you it would've read, "Ray Kassar did nothing wrong".
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No.2692
I'm a little new to the genre, but so far I'm liking Dragon Blaze.
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No.2713
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Out of the dozens (probably 100+) of shmups I've played, the only ones that could hold my attention for more than 10 minutes were Super R-Type, Touhou (mostly PCB and IN), PowerManga and Chromium BSU. And the latter 2 only due to needing some diversion during long nights of writing Linux programs.
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No.3901
>>992
>>2369
>hurr durr these popular developers, who were the only ones keeping the genre alive, are the worst thing to happen to the genre
>>2432
>>What are the mechanics that make you shit blood?
>Silvergun/Ikaruga scoring.
this.
>>2443
>recca is an obscure shmup
>developed by shinobu yagawa
>you've probably never heard of him
pls.
>people instead of ships
guwange.
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No.4128
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No.4224
I'm kind of new to retro stuff, but I've run into a problem with a certain game and this is the best place to ask.
I got Lightening Force (Thunder Force IV) recently and I would like to play it, but every time I start a level (and when I start level select), it's as though the dpad was glued down right. Other games work fine and I tested the game in the store I bought it from, so I know it works good.
The only thing I can think it might be is my controller, but I only have one at the moment so I can't quite test that out very well. I have tried starting levels and unplugging the controller just before they begin, but the result was the same in that my ship would just fly straight to the edge of the screen.
Any ideas?
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No.4230
>>4224
Sounds like it's your controller, bub. I haven't played LF IV in ages - are there any options screens where it can bug out? It'd be mighty strange if it was only doing it during levels.
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No.4234
>>4230
It's on all the menus. The thing is I can hit left and it registers it.
I'll get another controller but I wonder why this is the only controller where I've encountered this problem
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No.4235
>>4234
>Only controller
Only game
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No.4240
Is there an image compilation of Shoot'em Ups/shmups/shooting games/etc? I have been using them to cross off games I already own, like a kind of checklist.
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No.4253
>>4234
>>4224
Got a new controller, the issue still persists.
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No.4522
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No.5517
Been playing Fire Shark in reg'lar MAME now that it has sound, I suggest everyone else should give it a go too.
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No.5529
Keio Flying Squadron is a favourite of mine tbh.
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No.7599
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No.7731
Going to play some arcade Zero Wing today after clearing Hellfire yesterday. What am I in for?
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No.7789
Some recent stuff that's worth checking out…
Lua script for better autofire in MAME:
https://github.com/mamedev/mame/pull/5050
An online radio playing random shmup music:
https://files.catbox.moe/y1hpgg.m3u
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No.7790
This. This thread is gold.
Also, off-topic, do You guys know GalShell and its prototypes?
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No.7792
ready for a new strikers, lads?
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No.8071
<current year
>not being dadpilled
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No.8079
>>8071
So what was the deal with all that shmup shitposting? Was it really a discord group from the shmup general in /vg/?
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No.8101
>>8079
literally schizos i think. i can't even follow the other shmup general because it's literally just people talking about other literally whos out of context.
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No.8130
>>8079
Nah, it was falseflagging jarpigs who wish to stifle any form of shmup discussion on 4cuck /vr/ because actual skill-based videogames are verboten there.
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No.8137
>>8130
You never belonged to the /vg/ crowd anyway, australia. Reminder that the /vg/ crowd are just a bunch of zoomer LARPers who savestate scum their way through touhous.
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