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 No.2826

I'm looking for some great RPGs with stat minmaxing elements. I played this zoids game a long time ago and it was fucking great. Cool story, pokemon-like party collecting, customize your zoids with weapons and shit. Any great games out there?

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 No.2829

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The Monster Rancher series.

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 No.2830

Not sure if retro but Dragon Warrior Monsters 2

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 No.2848

The Lunar series. Also I hear the Lufia series was great as well, but I have no experience with either the SNES, GBC, or DS versions.

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 No.2850

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>>2848

Lufia 1 is meh, and the other sequels look pretty lame. When people talk about how awesome Lufia is they are talking about how awesome Lufia 2 is, and only Lufia 2.

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 No.2853

>>2850

Do you need to play the first one to enjoy the second?

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 No.2854

>>2853

No, not really. Lufia 2 is a prequel to Lufia 1, and Lufia 1 spoils many aspects of Lufia 2 within five minutes of playing it.

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 No.2855

>>2854

Even better. Thanks.

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 No.2885

Ultima games are pretty good.

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 No.5553

Dragon Warrior III, nuff said.

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 No.5668

>>2850

I am playing the first Lufia, it got repetitive pretty fast. The game is not hard at all, but a little customization wouldn't be bad. There is nothing to gameplay, yet the game is 30 hours long. I am going to finish it since I'm halfway through it. I hope Lufia 2 is better.

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 No.5691

>>5668

Lufia I and II are very different games. They learned from the awfulness of Lufia I and then decided to make a fun game. My recommendation would be to skip Lufia I completely, but since you're determined to finish it, go right ahead. But, rest easy, Lufia II is a very different experience. It's like night and day. Lufia II cuts the bullshit out, your characters no longer walk like they're stuck in quicksand, it gets to the point and throws puzzle after puzzle at you. The dungeons play almost more like Zelda than Lufia I. Of course, it's not exactly Zelda, but clearly some elements were inspired by LttP.

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 No.5692

>>2830

Highly highly recommended. One of the great games every made, and never mentioned on all time game lists.

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 No.5696

>>5691

I've finished the first Lufia a few days ago, sorry for replying late. I will make sure to play Lufia II. Do you have any SNES recommendations, by the way? I'd really appreciate it.

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 No.5711

>>5696

Sorry for replying late as well. I'm a huge RPG fan, but SNES isn't my favorite system for this kind of thing (though I do love SNES for other genres).

Outside of Lufia II, I highly recommend the Breath of Fire series, and, of course, the old classics of Chrono Trigger and Earthbound. If you really really love Star Ocean 2 as much as I do, then I would recommend Star Ocean for SNES, but if you're not in love with the Star Ocean series, then you can skip it (the amount of backtracking is painfully tedious, even though it introduces a lot of the fun elements found in SO2). I also do like Live a Live and Bahamut Lagoon, and if you're really hungry for more you can always dump a good 100-200 hours into the entire Final Fantasy series which is easy enough, if not a bit boring at times. The Romancing Saga series is interesting enough to try out and see if you like it.

As for games that I always see recommended that I personally am not a fan of. Ogre Battle is fun but it's very repetitive. I find Terranigma and Illusion of Gaia to be very stiff with combat that gets so tedious and boring I had to really force myself through them (and I played Gaia as a kid when it was still new, never was a huge fan). Also not a huge fan of Secret of Mana or Secret of Evermore fan (there's something about these non Zelda RPGs with this type of battle system that lacks a certain smoothness and creativity that Zelda got just right - they become a bit tedious to get through). I'm not saying don't play these games, some people speak highly of them, but I can't recommend them.

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 No.5712

>>5711

Also forgot to mention, if you're a fan of the Dragon Quest series, than V and VI are definitely up your alley. If you're not a fan, then stay away, they're pretty true to the Dragon Quest formula.

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 No.5713

>>5712

Horii's gotta be one of the all time top writers in gaming. DQ is always worth playing because of him, even if you have to power through the gameplay.

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 No.5714

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>>5711

Played the first 2 BoF games. Didn't like them that much, Capcom should stick to fighting games.

Played Chrono Trigger and Earthbound too. They are pretty good games, though somewhat primitive in terms of combat and strategy. I haven't played any Star Ocean though. I will check it for sure. Played Live a Live (the concept is gimmicky and gets boring later though) and all the SNES FFs.

Played Ogre Battle, DQ III, Terranigma, Illusion of Gaia as well. I dropped Secret of Mana. It's broken as fuck. So I will play:

>Star Ocean

>SaGa series

>Bahamut Lagoon

>Tactics Ogre Let Us Cling Together

>Secret of Evermore

>Lufia 2

>SMT

>Seiken Densetsu 3

>DQ V and VI

Sorry for my broken english.

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 No.5715

>>5714

I really like the first three BoF games, sorry to hear they're not up your alley. As for Earthbound and Chrono Trigger, I agree that Earthbound's battle system is primitive (not that there's anything wrong with that), but, for Chrono Trigger I'd have to disagree, it's reminiscent of the system in FFIX and is one of the few games of that era that utilizes strategy over grinding for boss battles (i.e. most boss battles are more of a puzzle than battle of attrition).

I agree with you on Secret of Mana, if you didn't like it you probably won't love Secret of Evermore or Seiken Densetsu 3 either, but give it a shot, they are a bit smoother. If you're a lover of extra content, exploration, and secrets, then Lufia II is probably the best game left on your list, not that it has more secrets and stuff to do than Star Ocean, but the bonus dungeon in Lufia II is probably the best I've ever played in a video game in my life, it's pretty much a game all by itself and is easily worth sinking a good 30 hours into. The only other bonus dungeon I ever had almost as much fun with was the Cave of Trials from Star Ocean 2.

>>5713

Agreed

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 No.5716

>>5715

BoF 1 and 2 are tedious as hell. There's an encounter every 3 or 4 steps. Christ.

Lufia 2 looks like just my cup of tea though. I will give it a go this weekend, I think. By the way, I heard about that dungeon in Lufia 2. It's a roguelike inside of the game, right? You start without any equipment and move through the dungeon, but you get to keep some items, I think. Looks interesting.

Also, this might not be the right thread to ask, but do you have any recommendations apart from RPGs, for SNES?

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 No.5718

>>5716

>Also, this might not be the right thread to ask, but do you have any recommendations apart from RPGs, for SNES?

(Not the anon you were addressing)

Super Turrican, Plok, Umihara Kawase, Demon's Crest, The Firemen, Super Fire Pro Wrestling, Sonic Blast Man 2. Dunno how obscure you want them.

Check out Natsume games in general. Pocky & Rocky 1 and 2, Wild Guns, Ninja Warriors Again, Harvest Moon.

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 No.5722

>>5716

>BoF 1 and 2 are tedious as hell. There's an encounter every 3 or 4 steps. Christ

I'm assuming you're not a big time RPG player. BoF's encounter rate is pretty mild for its era. Phantasy Star II would be the pinnacle of tediously high encounter rates, while I would consider games like Phantasy Star I, Star Ocean 2, and Shining the Holy Ark to have mildly high encounter rates (which is fine by me). By comparison, BoF is very very average, much less than those games. Nothing wrong with not liking that, everyone has their own tastes, but based on that there are some games on your list with encounter rates as high as BoF, Lufia II isn't one of them.

>I heard about that dungeon in Lufia 2. It's a roguelike inside of the game, right? You start without any equipment and move through the dungeon, but you get to keep some items

Yes, you start back at level 1 every time you enter the dungeon, and you have to level up and work with the items that the dungeon gives you. It's completely random every time. There are different strategies to use (do you go in with two characters that will develop into healers? Do you go for speed?) There's a lot of trial and error involved. The final boss of that dungeon is bullshit though (not for the reasons you're thinking), I won't spoil it, but don't feel bad if you save state at the bottom level to save yourself 15 hours of having to do it again, but don't save state throughout the dungeon, the fun comes the risk and reward the deeper you get in.

>Also, this might not be the right thread to ask, but do you have any recommendations apart from RPGs, for SNES?

The above poster has some good recs. Like he said, it depends how obscure you want to go, you know the classics DKC, SMW, Super Mario Kart, Super Metroid, etc. etc. - they're all fun and worth playing so, at least, go through them all first. After that there's ActRaiser, E.V.O. Search for Eden, Joe & Mac, Super Ghouls and Ghosts, the Bomberman games…these aren't very obscure, but they're all fun. How obscure do you want to go?

For RPGs, I forgot, but you should give Super Mario RPG a shot, it doesn't have any of the tedious elements you described.

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 No.5725

>>5718

thanks.

>>5722

I've played Super Mario RPG and the other games you listed as well.

>How obscure do you want to go?

Just give me your best. Thanks for the recs.

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 No.6994

>>2826

Robotrek

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 No.7468

Gotta play Panzer Dragoon Saga.

Absolutely wonderful.

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