/v/ - Video Games

>>16814827

>shirt

he's a furry too

>>16814827

>EUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>OUUGHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>16814847

We lived long enough to witness the once proud pack leader that was DOOM become nothing more than Shadow Warrior 2 replete with fucking double dashes and a grappling hook because the game is so goddamn slow compared to the originals they had to resort to gimmicks. I hate this timeline.

>>16814827

Also a bit pissed. Hypocrite shooter reviewers who hate on ALL shit love it. What I see is:

>waiting through cutscenes of an overcomplicated story I don't care about, what made the Doom reboot great was its simplicity and bluntness

>more Doom slayers introduced, making the one Doom Slayer you play less interesting

>HUB-world and weapon upgrades, shit I don't have time for

>jumping puzzles which have way too much fokus and feel too video-gamey, I can't take it seriously in a Doom game - it has friggin Metroidvenia wall jumps, dashes and shit.

>I love the shooting system and controls, but the setpieces in the gameplay videos already felt too long and I got tired of them, imagine dying there and playing over and over again.

>and we will die - overcomplicated bullshit where flamethrower, chainsaw and kill-move each drop different items; I don't even see how this is fun if you're forced to use that stupid flamethrower, for example.

Can't we just have a game without additional shit? Didn't they do marketing? Copying current Steam game trends doesn't mean everyone likes those trends!

Also

>music

what kind of complaint is that? The Doom reboot was great with its music, the more enemies where around, the more music came up, it was perfectly fine. Doom 1 constantly had music… I don't understand the complaint?

>>16814827

>>Muh lore

Isn’t Nu-doom lore comes down to Heaven worse than hell because angels are bigots unlike demons?

>>16814866

Fool looks like rich Evans from red letter media.

>>16814857

>more Doom slayers introduced

Lmao really?

>>16814832

nah, femoids and by that proxy effeminate soy males just have a weird fascination with possums for some fucking reason

>>16814878

Yes it's like a whole group of people controlled by some gods who refuse to participate in that war due to some code of ethics or some shit, it's already annoying. It's DOOM. It's about punching things with huge guts.

>>16814894

Which is fucking depressing, since Mick Gordon's shit in Wolfenstein was alright, and was actually really fucking good in Killer Instinct, but it's like working for bethesda for extended periods of time actually drains talent.

>>16814894

I liked the Killer Instinct soundtrack, but I can't listen to the DOOM soundtrack outside of the game. It's absolutely flavorless noise.

>>16814857

>the Doom reboot had great music

<Djent

<great music

I'd rather have my ears cut off than some Meshuggah nerd shove his godawful music taste down my throat

>>16814867

With how much the LGBT community identify with child killing demons in movies and rampant popularity of Satanism in transgenderism alone. I willing to bet Canadian dollars on demons being portrayed as misunderstood refugees and victims of angel racism.

>>16814913

I wanted to see that pic closer, then I figured out it's a Youtube shill and I'm like "Fuck you, faggot!"

>>16814893

>Royalty free background music is better than that shit.

You don't know how right you are, tons of royalty free music out there better than most bands who whore themselves out, the saddest thing is that the music in NuDoom would be top tier if it didn't have all the wub shit int it.

Here's Argent combat which is one of the most wub free tracks and inspired by Dooms 3 theme.

>>16814907

Djent is the new Metalcore

>>16814928

Why do you think normalfags don't play videogames? Probably half of posters here have played less games than the average normalfag. The difference is that they just have lower standards.

>>16814857

>more Doom slayers introduced

Fuck is this shit?

>>16814928

Depends on who you ask

>>16814937

>Probably half of posters here have played less games than the average normalfags

Nah

>Lunch time in campus

>Talking with some guys from Tech and Media about 3D moddeling and brushes

>Start talking about vidya

>Tell me I should own a PS4 because they have a golden age with games like Uncharted and TLoU

>Tell them it's not for me

>Ask me what I've been playing

>Tell them I finished Sekiro thrice

>They tell me they wouldn't be able to do it and that they're still finishing Uncharted 4 after a week of playing

Most simply never the original Doom in their lifes

The normalfag plays vidya like he watches movies anon, you have to realize that, it's generalized pastime for them, not a hobby.

>>16814955

The guy that goes on diatribes about "muh true anons like me have left long ago I'm so much better than you" is full of bullshit? Say it ain't so!

>>16814827

Is that therussianbadger?

>>16814827

Is that therussianbadger??

>>16814951

>Most simply never the original Doom in their lifes

Anon, you're being too elitist. They have played the original Doom, BUT they have never played it beyond the first episode (If they even completed it).

>stops being a doom clone

>immediately gets better

vanilla doom isn't that good, i would rather play any other shooter but it is better than hexen, strife and other retardations

>>16814959

Yeah I seem the some bitching and moaning in other threads. If he's even genuine then he's just overreacting to maybe one guy those praised the game and assuming everyone now likes it.

>>16814981

Vanilla Doom is a first-person Zelda game, with each level being another "dungeon" and the enemies being taken straight out of a shmup or a twin-stick shooter. It's part of why everything fails when it tries "emulate" that old style because none of the retards actually sat down and realized this.

>>16814847

Destiny for all of it's faults is actually has good gameplay/gunplay and movement, it's something that honest to god shocks me.

>>16814852

This is something I've noticed from the newest ID games such as Rage 2 and nuDoom 2016 felt slow as fuck. Even putting mouse sensitivity higher and having a beastly Rig that pumps out high FPS the games still felt fundamentally slow.

>>16814990

first off depending on what kind of shmups even back then had actual shot patterns not just different attributes slapped on, so wrong. The same can go for twin stick shooters. As far as the zelda game comparison, that's a far cock and ball stretch right there, at no point is Zelda segmented into only dungeons and even then that's more of a wolfenstein 3D comparison due to the flat nature of it's level design.

Eitherway, doom 2016 is just a crappy imitation of serious sam 3 bfe

>>16814946

I have seen maybe two unironically glowingly positive posts about nudoom on 8ch, ever. Everyone else seems to think it's mediocre at best.

>>16815006

Yeah and /cow/ posters couldn't stop shitting up the thread trying to make him sperg which he never did.

>>16815023

>S'Arais never sperged out

You clearly never saw the multiple threads about him on /cow/ which he himself created to "try and get out in front of it". He spammed each and every one with over a hundred posts. It's safe to say he sperged big time.

>>16814981

>stops being a doom clone

If it was a Doom clone it would actually be good, NuDoom is a garbage Painkiller clone for consoles.

>>16815023

Hi S'Arais

>>16815029

>you weren't in those threads

Trust me I saw it.

>>16815006

It still blows my mind that mark being friends with most of the mods on 8/pol/ and 8/k/ before the shutdown didn’t raise any eyebrows.

>>16815055

You clearly didn't as you very well should have seen his chimp out.

>>16815058

Are you going to keep sperging out?

Already bought it :)

>>16814827

I see NuDOOM and DOOM as their own separate games honestly. It sucks that they're replacing the DOOM name, but id died as soon as they sold themselves to Bethesda. We're never getting a proper DOOM 4, this isn't so much of a blackpill as it is a fact. Besides, we have plenty of DOOM clones on the market. Hellbreaker is pretty good and is made by an /agdg/ fag.

>>16815097

My only issue with Hellbreaker is the timer

I just don't like how so many NuDoom encounters are just enemies teleporting in. The original games didn't have nearly that much.

>>16815108

>Who the hell reacts like this to a shitty bit of paper and a kids toys?

Normalfags

>>16815119

I fucking hate that as well, blame consoles and muh gwafix for that though

>>16815139

I think you have forgotten what shitposting is, anon.

When did nu-males latch onto Doom?

>>16815177

With Doom 2016, fairly obvious.

>>16815188

If enough people dig into sonic fox old accounts and tweets. I bet we will find evidence of pedo shit. People knew about Jimmy Savile into satanic shit long before the pedo shit was made public.

>>16815215

>look how oldfag I am.

Did you first start browsing the internet in 2007, on your iphone?

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>>16814913

>Satan punishes people

>But only people that god says he can

>Meaning satan works for god

>People who hate god and and or christian morality worship him

I just don't get it. Like it would sort of make sense in a "trying to appeal to a guy who is about to viciously beat the shit out of you to beat you less viciously", but statanists don't ever approach it from that mentality.

They worship him because his thing is about giving people what they deserve for their transgressions but ignore the fact that he takes orders from god.

Its so silly, its like when sampson's parents tiried offering sacrifices to that angel.

>>16815228

They like satan because they enjoy the idea of being destructive blights on humanity and being "rewarded" for it.

>>16814924

This is fucking gross. I don't think I will ever understand how this is acceptable, it's literally noise, there's not a single fucking melody in there.

>>16815236

This one is alright, the majority are ten times worse than this.

>>16815236

This is exactly how I felt when dubstep happened.

>>16815100

git gud

>>16815245

Skrillex isn't dubstep and there's good dubstep.

Dubstep was around for years before that talentless hack got around to it and used his California contacts to prompt himself into the mainstream.

It's like saying techno is shit when what is shit is modern techno which sounds nothing like it's older variants and trends.

>>16814827

>Doubles down on glorykills

This one thing ruins the game for me. They're so fucking annoying and tedious. The worst part is the developers included a perk in nuDoom 2016 that speeds them up meaning they knew how tedious they were but they still put them in the game anyway. Also

>Doom Slayer

Fuck this shit. His name is Doomguy and I refuse to call him anything else.

>>16815228

>They like satan because they enjoy the idea of being destructive blights on humanity and being "rewarded" for it.

>>16815230

SJWs like Satanism because they brought the whole it’s just feminist atheistic philosophy when even Anthon lavey himself said Satanism a religion and he prays to devil in his Authorized biography.

>>16815255

Doesn't really matter. When it became popular, imageboards got spammed with garbage. When I first heard it, I thought it was some kind of ironic joke.

>>16815276

>MH: World and DMC

It's funny that MH World gets so many apologists on here, when DOOD2016 barely gets any.

>>16815256

It's Doom Slayer anon, let's not make Bethshit canon.

>>16815267

Same with everything that became popular.

I'm just trying to state that dubstep isn't shit just like most music isn't shit, it's what's popular for mass market that's absolutely garbage or mediocre.

>>16815276

>No metal

Source

>>16815279

World being the first easily accessible title on a modern platform helps a lot on that.

The series being Nintendo handheld only for the longest time despite a good PSP run is mostly to blame.

I'm still baffled why they did that when Tri on the Wii was extremely well received, probably Nintendo money trying to push the fucking failure of shit that was the 3DS.

>>16815293

Whoops meant to reply to >>16815283

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>>16815293

Absoluty disgusting, I hope the executives at id and Bethesda burn alive for their sins.

>>16815293

Quick, post good metal.

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>>16815312

Not a flood

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>>16815315

>Those wubs

Fuck right off

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>>16815318

He said good metal you fag

>>16815325

That's more like it

>>16815314

I'm 5' 11", and just under 190.

>>16815328

My music taste is a little all over the place. However, at least I'm not enough of a fag to consider Equilibrim's latest single to be "good": https://invidio.us/watch?v=L6TqqOeKFKA

>>16815352

>you can't backtrack to the beginning of the map

Fucking this, closing an airlock behind you while you don't know if it's the right way or not.

Just pisses me off to no end

>>16815355

Height just means I can shoot you in the head or kick you in the balls with much more ease.

t.manlet

>>16815358

They probably made a retarded design decision like "if players go the right way, we'll make sure they keep going the right way! It's no fun being lost"

>inb4 someone posts the HL2 playtest thing

What do you guys think of Beast in Black?

>niggers posting nightwish and BMTH

Jesus christ neck yourself faggots

>>16814827

Is there a definitive copy pasta for convincing normalfags that this game is shit?

>>16815407

>American melting pot myth came from a Jew

/po/ is always right!

>>16815407

Now if only it were a better game I miss American Krogan

>Doom 4

>Weapons are mediocre

>Enemy design is garbage with every enemy after the next being some variation of "this guy takes more damage" sans the Hell Knight and Pinky

>Enemy counts are laughable compared to any other actual game

>Game doesn't use enemy combinations in any meaningful way

>Game doesn't use the terrain of the arenas in any meaningful ways

>Game is an absolute misery out of combat since you're running around in empty(inb4 "they spawned a hell knight or a couple of possessed once every 5 levels so it's totally not empty!!!!") levels with no music or anything interesting going on

>Music doesn't kick in because arena fights end absurdly quickly

>No need for ammo management because chainsaw and enemies drop ammo of weapons you're low on anyways

>No need for health management because (on lower difficulties) glory kills or (on higher difficulties) everyone deals a fuckton of damage but glory kills give you more health the less health you have so you can just not bother until you have the BLOODY SCREEN SO REAL red filter on your screen, do one glory kill and then you've got enough health to tank another hit, repeat until fucking kill me

>Double Jump was the worst fucking movement "upgrade" I've seen in any FPS and this includes Xen

>Muh story doesn't matter look doomguy smashes two screens in the opening level!!!

>Two screens that you have to listen to and are unskippable cutscenes, not to mention the unskippable cutscene of you having to listen to Vega tell you that they've unlocked combat points once, and that other unskippable cutscene of Vega telling you that they've unlocked achievements, or that unskippable cutscene of you re-activating satellites and then being locked out by whatshisname, or that other unskippable cutscene of you first gaining the argent energy upgrade, or that other unskippable cutscene of whatshername slowly telling you you're shit behind a glass window and then slowly walking away, or that other etc etc.

Doom 4 wasn't just some game I got bored of. I was genuinely miserable playing it. Just play Serious Sam if you want arena fights, it has enemy counts and enemy varieties and makes wonderful use of terrain and out of combat the game has traps and secrets. Or Doom, vanilla's wonderful and you've got a shitton of .wads, vanilla or otherwise to keep you interested for at least a year.

Fuck everyone who sucks the dick of Doom 4. It's not just a shit doom game, it's a shit FPS overall.

>>16815188

Just when I thought he couldn't sink any lower. He screeches at muh nazis when the Church of Satan attracted them.

>>16815228

>I just don't get it. Like it would sort of make sense in a "trying to appeal to a guy who is about to viciously beat the shit out of you to beat you less viciously", but statanists don't ever approach it from that mentality.

Even the bible confirms what you state.

<Yet in the same way, these dreamers defile their bodies, reject authority, and slander glorious beings. But even the archangel Michael, when he disputed with the devil over the body of Moses, did not presume to bring a slanderous judgment against him, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” These men, however, slander what they do not understand, and like irrational animals, they will be destroyed by the things they do instinctively - Jude 1:8-10

Satanists have a misconception of Satan and God. According to Jude, Satan talks with angels aligned with God like Michael. So his beef isn't really with God, but with humanity.

That's why he repeatedly tries to trick them into following the shit that harms them and ultimately turns them away from God.

>>16815466

He was into guro too, but he cleaned up everything as kiwifarms dug for his content.

>>16815472

Him sucking at Ion Maiden was something.

>>16815475

>Hall of Costs "survivor" was right

>>16815494

That was gold.

>>16815543

Moon? The DS game? Haven't heard that name in a long time. Is there some PC remake of it around on a Doom or Duke source port?

Ditto for Metroid Prime: Hunters

>>16815544

Moon was surprisingly good considering it was a DS FPS.

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>>16815551

The moonman mod for Doom, forgot what the actual name was.

>>16815569

>Or is a big flashing light too much for your magpie brain to ignore?

you can the light off in the first one, if you can't in this it would suck

don't tell me you didn't turn it off

>>16815567

Why? Brütal Doom and Doom4Doom exist.

>>16815567

I enjoyed Doom 3 and Quake 4(it's almost the same game, Quake 4 only have bigger enemies and faster) more than nuDoom, but I played with shadows disabled due Intel onboard so I can't really judge people who hated because they couldn't see shit.

But Doom 3 is a semi-survival horror game, so hipsters retards wanting the arcade shooter without vertical dimension or mouse support that they never really finished/played need not to apply.

>>16815588

doom has had vertical dimensions and mouse support for decades idiot

>>16815567

Lmao no, just because NuDoom is shit doesn't mean Doom 3 is less shit.

>>16815438

Welcome to /pol/ needs to be updated to be updated for 2016 election and HWNDU era. The guy saying welcome to /pol/ needs a Star of David. The kid looks too white. He needs to be hispanic.

>>16815567

Doom 3 feels more like doom than Nu-doom.

>>16815315

That sure is KoЯny

>>16815686

Learn how to read

>>16815686

Gun yourself my man.

>>16815710

2 is Borderlands tier trash and kinda retcons the OG.

1 is legit pretty good

Yeah, Lo Wang is more of an 80s and 90s Asian/American geek than a musclebound Mr Miyagi.

They justify it by making it a prequel to the 3D Realms games where he is younger.

>>16815710

Shadow Warrior 2 is pretty different in terms of level structure but the gameplay is still just as fun and the guns feel great. I'd say that at the core, Lo Wang is still the same. He makes dick jokes, has a ridiculous accent and constantly makes up new dumb insults while still being a very likable character. I'd say the one major change they've made regarding his character, is that he's obviously younger now and that his references are more up do date. Sadly, neither of the two new games have a rap comprised of Lo Wang's one liners play while the credits are rolling though.

>>16815710

Like the other anon said, 2 really does sound like trash Burch would spew on paper and call "witty dialogue". The only good part of it was nearly every other character being pissed off at Lo Wang for his shit sense of humor. Gameplay can be kinda interesting, but I dont recommend you do any side missions, the grind is not worth it.

1 is fine, not any mindblowing, just fine. It doesn't pretend it's identical to the original like nuDoom does, and plays well enough on its own. Just remember that it's made by the same people who developed Hard Reset, so stay away from vending machines and AC units.

>>16814996

>destiny

>good gameplay

>good movement

>good gunplay

>>>/reddit/

>>16815228

Theistic Satanists generally worship Paradise Lost's take on Satan rather than the Bible's, though they don't necessarily understand that they're doing this.

That said, Satan is in rebellion against God even in the Bible. The "Satan knowingly works for God" interpretation is impossible to square with Revelation.

>>16814924

>Here's Argent combat

>>16815243

>This one is alright

Unbelievably dull. A wall of indistinguishable chorgles. A retard could make better music after owning a guitar for a week.

>>16815841

Literally the only good song Nightwish ever made was "I wish I had an Angel".

>>16815732

Better then a lot of shooters these days still a clusterfuck of a game.

>>16815868

>Better then a lot of shooters these days

Destiny is literally one of those shooter you fucking nigger brain, it's pure garbage.

>>16815407

>Only white men can be against globalism

Oh no, /pol/'s gonna be so sad when they find out

>>16815890

>nuDoom was good

The only good thing about it was the triple barreled Minigun and the animations, the rest is mediocre shit.

What's the deal with hitmarkers anyway? Quake III had the soundbite for when you actually landed a hit and wasn't any worse for it.

>>16815890

Doom 4 isn't even a doom game, it's Serious Sam/Painkiller with an over the top gore coat of paint, but inferior in every way.

>>16815909

>Same shit with low FOV, more than half the viewmodel is completely lost.

This I believe is a problem of the view models being xboxhueg and covering up a good quarter of the screen. The other three quarters are usually obscured by some retarded HUD element.

>>16815909

>Same shit with low FOV

How do these niggers tolerate low FOV period? I genuinely can't comprehend this.

>>16815909

How is a hitmarker any more of a dopamine rush than the hit sound from quake?

>Same shit with low FOV, more than half the viewmodel is completely lost.

That's only a problem if there's no option to change it.

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>>16815909

>The sad thing is that it probably does because they're all for immediate satisfaction and the X gives them some dopamine like damage numbers or kill and XP confirmations.

The most satisfying kills I had in FPS titles was sniping enemies (In Half-Life, Halo, and Battlefront) on the other side of the map and watching them fall over with a blood-splatter behind them.

How the Hell does a fucking "X" deliver that same feeling of accomplishment?!

>>16815926

Haven't seen any of that yet

>>16815926

The only thing that's off about the game so far is their insistence in trying to tell a more involved story that portrays doomguy as having some semblance of a real human personality instead of being an avatar of rage

I don't even hate cutscenes or anything, but it feels wrong to see the man so angry he survived a universe reboot kneeling before some fuck and patiently listening to mindless blathering

>>16815935

> The other three quarters are usually obscured by some retarded HUD element.

>I hate modern HUDs so fucking much, holy shit.

>How can Call of Duty, the most normalfag FPS ever have a less intrusive HUD than most FPS out there?

What drives me through the fucking wall is the existence of a minimap and dots whenever someone fires their weapon.

>Peak low FOV consolefaggotry

Mean for >>16815919

>>16815935

>Lobotomize yourself, maybe then you'll finally be able to explain.

I guess you'd have to be lobotomized to get that worked up over shit that's existed since the era arena shooters.

>>16815941

>Hitmarkers have existed since the arena shooter era

Maybe if you consider 2002 part of the arena shooter era, I don't, shit was already dying then.

And it made sense in Battlefield 1942 since weapons were all hitscan and made for long range on really shitty 3D models.

And Call of Duty does have hit sounds, it just adds the fucking Xs on top.

>>16815941

There is some legitimacy to what he's saying in that it is very common in modern game dev to just cargo cult copy what some other popular game does, even if it might not actually serve the design well. Hit indicators aren't just a triviality either, e.g. with Quake III, did you actually hit that enemy with the railgun? It does fixed 100 damage which will kill a fresh spawned player unless they happen to have grabbed even an armor shard, in that case they're fucking doomed and you want to switch to something that is much easier to hit with unless you're crackerjack at aiming. However you need to know the hit was landed, and at longer range or over sounds of combat that can be unclear.

That was just a trivial example. Now consider they do it with fundamental gameplay design, regenerating health and map markers being two of the worst trends.

>>16815944

Wait BF1942 had them? If so I never actually noticed.

Hitmarkers aren't even inherently bad, they just need to be done well

Here's some new footage from the System Shock Remake

Not only does it make sense in the context of the game but it's also unintrusive and but into the crosshair itself instead of being a big fucking X or other retarded intrusive symbol.

>>16815923

TVs are further away than monitors. With more thing in your field of vision the rapid movement of the camera and environment wont be as disorienting.

>>16815946

>Wait BF1942 had them?

Yes, 4 small and slight transparent diagonal lines in the corners of the crosshair.

I dislike it but it's still less shit than most modern games.

Check out Rage 2 for pure cancer on that front.

>>16815950

I probably never noticed that because against bots you're rarely missing. They either aimbot snipe you, or stand still waving their guns around like they're on parade. Not usually moving targets. Yes I used to play this alone. At least Desert Combat's helis are great fun to use though, I haven't seen many other fun examples except the mod Airquake.

>>16815935

> it makes NuDoom look good.

I at least feel fast in Destiny where in NuDoom I feel like a fucking slug and the glory kills (I know you don't have to use them) slow things down even further. What happened to shooters feeling snappy and responsive?

I wouldn't have minded nu-doom if they allowed us to mod the game instead of adding in that retarded and pointless snapmap garbage within the game. A brutal, or moonman doom mod for 2016 would at least made me satisfied somewhat.

>>16814827

I don't mind glory kills but maybe they should have made them quicker or something

>>16816090

Glory kills in a way are the antithesis of shooters so no, they fucking ruin everything.

>>16815935

>first image

What the fuck did that modder do to what looks like Payday?

Yeah, yeah, but why do kikes

HATE

Doom4 and this game? Is it honestly because of the demon killing? Like this entire thread is legit glownigger shilling. Really kinda scares me to see this much jewry going on.

>>16815293

That's pants on head retarded. And I would bet they were told at some point that they were being retarded and they just said they knew what they were doing, I've seen it all happen before. And the worst part is that the franchise has such a renown that people just ate it up and the morons got out of it unscathed. There's no justice in this world.

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>>16815770

The best video I've seen on why Trannys identify with evil. Though, he takes a while to get to his point.

>>16816148

At this point. I think even male gays will be kick out of LGBT to give trannies more power. Feminists benefits from Trannies

>>16815312

>metal

>good

pick one

reminder that Cuck Gordon demanded Orchid not flash her tits in nu KI

>>16816218

how so, anon?

>>16815002

he was probably confusing us with 4um

They love that shit and get mad when people talk shit about nudoom

>>16816224

Okay, I guess I have to be that guy, but are either of those really metal? I have to confess that I don't even know what metal is. I mean I'm listening to Rainbow in the Dark right now, and I just don't think I'd call this metal. Or maybe I would. Normally I don't try to understand what that genre is just because I'd have to listen to a bunch of music I don't want to hear in order to understand it. And not wanting to understand the genre, I guess there's really no point to this post. But it's happening anyhow.

>>16816234

It's hard rock

>>16816234

The first one is classic heavy metal.

The second is a bit hard to categorize, but the vocals are old-school metal'ish at least.

>>16814928

Those people who "supposedly grew up with DOOM" never actually played it, they're just newfags pretending to be oldfags, something as old as time.

>>16816221

Gay dudes aren't as "oppressed" as trannys.

t. a gay that would rather watch the alphabet movement shrivel away

>>16816234

On wikipedia, the most normalfag of sites, there are 27 categories of metal, with 45 additional subgenres. I would wager in your mind you just think of a couple of subgenres as metal.

Just for emphasis

>Dio

>not metal

You're right, you don't understand.

>>16816257

>t. country fag

>>16816257

>Metal was never good

>While Vargposting

This is bait

>>16816258

lol, faggot

>>16816274

Metal was always kind of degenerate fag shit, prog rock and other classical influenced music are objectively superior.

>>16816301

ok boomer

>>16816302

I imagine you call people younger than you boomers since you're fucking retarded.

>>16816301

>prog rock and other classical influenced music are objectively superior

Swear this is bait.

>>16816307

The trash you posted looks like it to be frank.

So uh, what genre does Rhapsody fall into?

I really liked Dawn of Victory.

inb4 fag metal

>>16816090

I will still maintain Overload and maybe even Brutal Doom did them better. Overload you get a smash attack which requires you to use boost and then fire which puts you in a ramming state. This ramming state deals a hefty bit of damage but doesn't always kill, which means using it is a matter of

>knowing how low an enemy is, which is a matter of recognizing how many shots landed on it

>Knowing when to use it since enemies don't have a stagger state with a bright orange outline on them and will connect a shitton of shots if you just bumrush them with it

>knowing which enemies to use it on since some melee enemies will counter your smash attack with a melee attack

Smash attacks gives you slightly more health and seem to have a larger chance of dropping health.

And in brutal doom/project burtality, it's just the berserk powerup which is a risky but very satisfying thing to use when fighting lots of varied enemies. Although in BD/PB the animations are bit too long.

>>16816004

Really? I've never been able to get into Warframe. The parkour felt like a different game from the combat, the level designs felt like a different game from the objectives and the frames didn't feel particularly different from each other. It has neat ideas but I felt it was shackled by it designed as a multiplayer loot grinder instead of as a well thought out singleplayer campaign.

>>16814924

that song is like the intro to the chrous where all the cool instruments sound off that's supposed to be catchy and badass and cool but that chorus never actually arrives so the intro loops for 6 minutes straight

fucking trash, there's people who do more with 4 channels of audio and tens of kilobytes of data

>>16815002

Most people here hate it, but you still get a surprising amount of "NuDoom was unironically the best shooter in years" every once in a while.

>>16816411

Because there's been just about fuck all in terms of single player shooters past few years. It's not hard to "win" if you're the only one left.

>>16816257

>>16816301

<I listened to Linkin Park once in junior high, now let me tell you what kind of music is good

Hopefully niggers like you two will never reproduce

>>16815732

>destiny

>good gameplay

UIs operate, and are designed both functionally and visually, well and communicate to the player intentions properly. Maps flow well and make the player familiar with farming and event opportunities by mission placement. Is it fun? Do you like farming for better gear? Do you like mediocre multiplayer with weak vehicles or ranked mediocre multiplayer based on gear? Do you want a weak story campaign?

>good movement

Mechanically the player is able to move around the map in short distances rapidly if they utilize abilities that either give them a boost: additional jumps, jetpacks, sliding, dash-attacking. I only played a Titan so I did a lot of sliding, also jumping then waiting until I started to fall them use the jetpack to propel forward, then slide on the floor.

>good gunplay

The guns have been balanced a lot, again mechanically they have always operated properly.

>>16814996

The reasons above are why you are right. But we all know why the game is shit. Load times, lies, incomplete content, rushed content, over-scoped design maybe, vehicles are rare in a Bungie game, voice acting ranges from great to poor (GoT actor replaced, rumors behind that), I forget what the mode is called where 6 players need to kill a boss (the Vex lord, Crota, maybe another I am forgetting) that was really weak and had a lot of exploits that made them easier. Quests were weak, lots of repeated area crawling for resources or killing X Y times.

>>16815770

What if Revelation was trying to say that Satan would no longer be needed to punish the wicked?

>>16816517

Yeah, i usually do that with Burnout 3.

>>16816523

sounds like a fucking Art of Noise song

>>16816523

I don't know what I was expecting but it sure wasn't this.

>>16816523

>>16815742

Not my fault it takes 12 seconds to find it

>>16816528

>not having WE ARE THE LAZY GENERATION on 24/7 while playing B3

Wow, loser.

Man those fucking Us Circuit Racer special events still give me nightmares.

Also Burnout Paradise was just as miserable to play after B3 as Doom 4 was after Doom/D2. Was Dominator any good?

>>16816588

Yeah, Dominator is great thanks to boost chaining and Maniac Mode. Unlocking some cars is a hassle though, and the track design isn't as vertical as Revenge or Paradise.

>>16816300

you're still being a massive faggot and it shows

now go jerk off to your nightcore remixes of eurodance

>>16816301

holy shit when did we get DT worshipping 12 year olds on here

>>16816981

>>16816982

Except he core faults of nu-Doom which are:

>Enter into a mediocre arena, kill some dudes, walk along, and do it over several more times before the level ends

>Glory kills are necessary

Any FPS with enemies that just spawn in instead of actually level design is fucking lazy and will never compete with level design either. Especially in Doom: a game that set the standard for this stuff. Glory kills are a fucking cancer that are needed for you survive. They have improved on them in that you don't need to do them on every enemy compared to 2016, but you still need to do so for health, armor, and ammo which brings combat down to a snail's pace. The game goes from "high action dude!" to "oh wait, gotta find a zombie real quick or lemme run that hell knight and… there we go".

>>16816439

>NO, I MUST KILL THE DEMONS!

<No, John, you are the demons.

>And then John was a zombie.

>>16817057

They've actually split resource drops into different kinds of kills

Armor comes from killing enemies you've flamethrowered, which theoretically drastically reduces the need for glory kills, though it can also stack with them if you need health drops too

>>16817078

If it was a natural and emergent part of the gameplay it wouldn't be so bad, as in a neat little bonus for playing the way you would be playing anyhow. If the only reasonable way to get armor, though, is to make sure I go kill something with a flamethrower, or save a guy to designate as the flamethrower kill, or whatever–I guess you can call it a kind of resource management, but I don't really think it brings much improvement to the shooter milieu. Especially not DOOM of all things. As another anon said or implied it also displaces the effort of level design onto the player by putting some of the onus of generating and placing resources dynamically onto the player, rather than the level designer having to gauge where and when the player is likely to need them. If that freed up the level designers to design better or more interesting levels it would be one thing, but it doesn't appear that's what goes on.

>Copies Brutal Doom

>Makes glory kills, the worst part of that mod and something that was entirely optional, mandatory

Everytime

The worst part is reddit attaching themselves to the community like the cancerous leeching faggots they are.

>>16817084

From what people who have played the game have said, it seems that they've done both, by placing groups of worthless trash enemies here and there as psuedo-resource caches, which I kind of like more on a thematic level than just convenient pickups placed near heavy combat areas

>>16817096

Well, I guess I can agree in a way, although that just shifts the question from "why is there armor laying on the floor in this lab" to "why does this imp turn into armor when I flamethrower it but not when I just shoot it." I've never been bothered much by thematic consistency problems like those, and personally I'd rather deal with a good level designer's choice of what powerups to place where than to have to juggle enemies as a resource. For some reason I feel like I've been butting up against that latter thing often recently–maybe it comes with procedural generation concept that's the rage these days, I dunno–and I've never really enjoyed it. That's all just personal opinion on my part though rather than some objective criticism of game design, so I dunno.

>>16817123

>"why does this imp turn into armor when I flamethrower it but not when I just shoot it."

The praetor suit is magic demon bullshit, so that might have something to do with it

It could simply just be that doomguy's angryman logic dictates that charred corpses lessen pain and bare-hand slaughter invigorates the body just because he likes it, and is surviving entirely on mixing up different kinds of adrenaline rushes

>I'd rather deal with a good level designer's choice of what powerups to place where than to have to juggle enemies as a resource.

Eh, I just see it as a simplification of the resource system, making them basically just one universal "pickup", and leaving it to you to decide what you need from it

We can at least both agree that a game revolving around cinematic takedowns is bad, and it's a step in the right direction that they're appearing to want to lessen that as a factor, even if they'll never remove it

>>16817088

TBH, Hell on Earth with Project Brutality absolutely BTFO'd Doom 2016 in just about every aspect except visuals (obviously) and appears that it will be doing so with Eternal.

I went from hyped, to cautious when blatant shills were trying to force "le ebin lore" nobody gave a fuck about, to genuinely concerned. If there's anything about having to travel back to already played levels to make progress I'm not touching this shit until it goes for $5.99 like 2016 currently is. It has the same impression that Rage 2 and Young Blood had where the shooting will be great but everything else will be meh to shit

>>16817149

>He bought it

And Brutal Doom itself is better than NuDom in every way possible.

No need to even mention Project Brutality

Where's 3.0 though? It's been so long

>>16817141

Now that you mention angryman logic, it's actually kinda fun to pretend that powerups are just an abstraction of doomguy's mental problems and that he's actually killing people that he sees as demons. Sure that sort of idea's been beaten to death by fan wank and in other games. But suddenly I am getting this obscene rise out of daydreaming of the fan backlash if Eternal were to end with some completely asinine John-was-always-a-zombie kind of reveal and all the lore and Doom Slayer crap became moot.

>>16817165

>and that he's actually killing people that he sees as demons

Now you've gone too far

>some completely asinine John-was-always-a-zombie kind of reveal

Nevermind, let's keep going and see what happens

The game could go full shadow of the colossus and have you play the last level as demonguy

>>16817175

They could also just artlessly rip off the scene from Total Recall with the psychologist trying to talk Quaid down, which would more or less just give games journalists a reason to write "was DOOM always just a psychopath's hallucination" articles. So maybe it's not such a fun idea after all. If we have to have cutscenes, though, it would be sorta fun for one of them to end up dividing whatever fandom DOOM may have into Deckard-was-a-replicant/wasn't-a-replicant style camps. Sure, it wouldn't make the game itself any better, but the bad ideas aren't going to go away totally, and at least that way way we get a shitstorm out of it. I'm always down for a reason to make some popcorn.

>>16817165

>all the lore and Doom Slayer crap became moot.

If there's one thing the Lore of Doom 4 did right it's making all the wads canon because it implies H-doom and La Tailor Girl are canon

>>16817141

>We can at least both agree that a game revolving around cinematic takedowns is bad

But why was it tolerable in MGRRising? It's one of my least favorite Platinum games but I never really had an issue with Zandatsu.

>>16817381

>But why was it tolerable in MGRRising?

Or the executions in Sekiro and Ninja Gaiden 2. I've never seen anyone complain about them.

>>16817392

I've tried to think about it and the only reason I can think as to why it's not objectionable in those games is that a cinematic takedown feels like a natural extension and conclusion in a melee combat system. Hell even in the Arkham whatever games I don't object to the need to ground takedown someone in order to take them out. Not so much the combo takedowns but that's not the point here The problem with D4's implementation is that it's a shooter with no dedicated melee weapon(fists for example) so it breaks the flow to move into point blank range for a melee attack. Maybe if glory kills were an extension of gibbing, or if it required opening up a weakspot with a well aimed shot and then the enemy can be glory killed with any weapon it might have been a better idea.

>>16817057

>Enter into a mediocre arena, kill some dudes, walk along, and do it over several more times before the level ends

I don't see what the problem here is when you've just described most hack 'n slash games like Ninja Gaiden and DMC and Bayonetta, which have even less variety in arena design than nuDoom. Obviously there's some reason why it works in those games for nobody to ever really complain about it and why it doesn't in nuDoom.

>>16817392

>Never seen anyone complain about the executions in Sekiro

Nigger were you even here when that game came out? People did nothing BUT complain about the fucking executions.

>>16817433

>People did nothing BUT complain about the fucking executions

I thought most people were mostly complaining about getting their ass handed to them by Monkey Trouble and old man with gun

>>16814924

It's boring as fuck, even more boring than the original D3 theme, but that's still a step up from most of the combat soundtrack which actually offends my ears.

>>16817101

>so is metal

Eat shit and die

>>16817796

>putting her in HER place

>HER

Anon I…

>>16818527

>Spite marketing, they think if they heavily shit on this game then the edgier normalfags and part of the "alt right menace" would then be interested to buy it.

Actually they're probably just asshurt at these set of lines.

>>16815888

>888

trips of truth.

>>16816004

It's because DE used to work on unreal back in the day.

I wish they'd pull their heads out of their asses, maybe fire scott's fat lazy ass, and actually deliver a game-mode that ends the need for star-chart's existence.

>>16816117

the "mortally-challenged" globo-homo parody

>Anyone who isnt shilling a game and only talking positively about it is a shill

The amount of retarded people in this thread is staggering.

>>16819584

>>16819590

>>16819580

You know you can reply to multiple posts so you dont have to post 3 times in a row newfag?

>>16814886

The worst part is we've had this shit worked out for decades. You can have the shit play and let the player either watch it, walk away or pummel the fucking thing and have the game react accordingly. Giving someone the freedom to not give a fuck is infinitely more genuine and meaningful interaction rather than force their character to act like a total edgelord.

>>16815090

>>16816117

>Heh I already paid $50 on this get fucked!

>Accuses others of being jew shills

>>16815312

>>16818490

>>>/tv/

>>16819922

Forgot to shit on the garbage melee controls, which will instantly teleport you halfway into a wall or across the map because it'll target the weakest enemy, not the one you're looking at. Have fun going to melee an imp two inches from your face because you don't want to waste ammo only to find yourself on the other side of the map doing a glory kill on a hell knight or 10 feet behind the imp stuck in a corner.

>>16819922

Are you talking about Doom 4 or Eternal?

>>16819929

Doom 4, but I wouldn't be surprised if all of that applies to Doom Eternal as well.

I don't really appreciate them potentially making angels & by extension God malicious enemies. I enjoyed the first game somewhat. I don't want them to go full edgy 14 year old making God the real villain. But this assumption is only really based on what little marketing has shown off the angels. Could be wrong & they're totally good but just somewhat indifferent.

I just want them to have the glory kills optional. I understand the game is designed around them, but I don't want canned animations that jerk the camera around all the time. Just give me the option for a "punch the enemy into chunks so they drop stuff" glory kill skip.

>>16819993

Even Brutal Doom had that with a toggle for fancy animations vs. just explode them to paste like usual

>>16816148

>Cartoon avatar self-insert

>Self-described "Liberal Centrist"

This faggot doesn't know what evil is.

>>16820785

It should be taken into account that it might be him, since he tends to shill his own shit here

People are probably gonna complain they now have straight-up cutscenes but this is a net positive because this means you can now skip them

>>16829813

hey tranny, was yu yuhakusho any good?

>>16829962

You're legit just saying that because josuke touches a tranny in the bulge to see if it was actually a man.

>>16814827

Dude bro Nu-Doom sucks because i am Gen-X and i dont play the new games in fact i am so jealous that Nu-Doom 2016 is liked by the kiddo's today. I want to be contrarian and nihilistic like nothing else really matters at all because i am a fat fuck that has no life lmao.

Just play sigil or one of the trillion wads out there

>>16829997

>>16830129

It's not horrible but compared to games like Serious Sam, Quake, Postal 2 or OG Doom is quite repetitive and dull. Though i think NuDoom is better than Doom 2.

>>16830181

>Compared to pretty much all modern games

Compared to being beheaded by ISIS, seeing The Last Jedi in theatres is a good way to spend your afternoon. What's your point?

>>16830181

>Compared to pretty much all modern games NuDoom is a 10/10

Maybe if you're an AAA shit eating nigger

Now go back to /tv/ idolshitter

>>16816446

>The guns have been balanced a lot, again mechanically they have always operated properly.

but they feel and sound like some airsoft shit. I bet the faggot in charge of D2's guns is one of those "guns are evil" soybois that gets triggered if they're not pixelated.

same goes for the football cosplay armor. whoever is in charge of design needs to fuck off.

>>16830181

>Compared to pretty much all modern games NuDoom is a 10/10 and you know it.

Not a hard bar to cross at the moment, there have been very little FPS games as of late, and most have been indie games trying to recapture that same feeling of Quake or DOOM.

But that's also unfair to immediately call it a 10/10 game, it ultimately still has issues that I think alot of people and outlets just kind of gloss over.

7.9/10

>>16814827

Our boy Dean is back again with his 20 something years of experience in gaming

>>16830217

That would be nice but we already know Bethesda has their hand in Eternal with weird dumb shit like vid related.

>>16830216

It's amazing how well CS for Kids predicted the future in 2007

>glorykills

Though certainly not the norm for what classic doom is, they improve the flow by encouraging a more aggressive playstyle, additionally with glorykills giving health this allows enemies to be more threatening with out compromising an aggressive play style. Such a system works and makes sense, and furthermore is approved of in other games, probably by the same people who complain about glorykills. Don't believe me? Space marine. Such a system forced you melee more and play aggressively, people hold it up as a great rip and tear game with brutal and satisfying finishers and yet they're slower and more static than nu doom's glory kills.

>>16830129

Do not post renji with your shit taste faggot

>>16830217

Things don't work that way.

>>16814827

>le 1 up so quirky XD just like the OG games rite? Riet?

When did FPSs have lives? The only game I can think of is Descent and in certain cases the way the lives system worked was against the game since you could get fucked in a position where the stock ship could not even survive re-collecting the weapons and items you dropped.

>>16830666 (Checked angrily)

>Satan trips

>supports Jude Eternal

Makes sense.