16880e No.16740914
http://archive.fo/9Rs1k
petapixel.com/2019/07/19/major-case-act-copyright-legislation-passed-by-senate-judiciary-committee/
For those that don't know, this is the bill that will allow anyone to censor just about anything (No questions asked): http://archive.fo/utJjK
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ecac52 No.16740922
Those kinds of laws only increase awareness of possible exploitation of copyright laws, the more of them, the higher public's exposure to this treachery. In a way its also accelerationism.
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16880e No.16740926
Accidently made another thread, ignore the other one.
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aeed4c No.16740962
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02ed25 No.16740976
>>16740914
>this is the bill that will allow anyone to censor just about anything
I don't understand? Can I censor EA?
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7e534d No.16740985
>>16740962
>all those useful idiots
Is there anyone doing any major campaigning against this shit? I haven't seen anyone outside of here discussing it at all.
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aeed4c No.16740991
>>16740976
By "anyone", he really meant anyone that's rich and Jewish enough.
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bc7cd7 No.16741000
Oh no.
That sucks.
America and Israel are the only two countries that have good Fair Use laws. Most other countries have restrictive Fair Dealing laws. America's internet copyright laws are fucked because DMCA is shoot first, ask questions later. It was only tolerable because our Fair Use laws were so lax and forgiving. If this CASE act passes, we will become worse than Europe and its Article 13.
Our only hope now is the Supreme Court ruling this as unconstitutional for violating our First Amendment rights.
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4dba53 No.16741015
>>16741000
I'm honestly wondering how this shit even passed Congress. The Senate is full of clueless boomers but hopefully with the fallout from the Republican deplatforming shit they're more aware of internet censorship.
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02ed25 No.16741020
>>16740991
I still don't understand
Under what basis does this allow anyone to censor anything? And what is the difference between this and a company or forum banning you over "hate speech"?
Sounds like a lot of bullshit and that OP is just overreacting
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a0bc6a No.16741021
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38a448 No.16741024
>>16741020
That tends to be the case with laws like this. People look at the absolute most outlandish hypothetical scenarios that could be possible and treat them as what would become the norm if they went into effect.
Look at Article 13, it's been law for months and none of the dreaded "meme censorship" happened.
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ae64e0 No.16741030
>>16741020
It means smaller courts can be used to sue for infringement, meaning more small cases can be made and it lowers the bar for both plaintiffs and defendants. In all likelihood nothing will happen, and at worse it means pirates can be brought to court easily and website like 8ch can be harassed with a ton of copyright claims.
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38a448 No.16741035
>>16741030
> website like 8ch can be harassed with a ton of copyright claims.
We already get near daily DMCA claims on the porn boards.
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f2c8c0 No.16741040
IP isn't material, if you can't compete then tough shit my man, unless it's just a direct ripoff then you're just being a jew about it
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bc7cd7 No.16741047
>>16741035
>We
But you aren't a mod, so how would you know. The most us regular anons know about 8chan's DMCA takedowns is through the vague monthly transparency reports. The site only got 17 this past June.
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6efb3b No.16741055
>>16741030
So basically this law passing means the death of piracy in America.
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4dba53 No.16741063
>>16741055
>>16741030
Even if this does pass it's still kind of a stretch ISPs will go as far as to pursuing pirates. MAYBE if they detect you're seeding like 500 torrents but in that case C&Ds are already a thing for people like that. I'm not worried about it, more people pirate shit then you might realize, it will never be practical to go after that one guy downloading Minecraft
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974729 No.16741067
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028039 No.16741086
>>16740985
>Is there anyone doing any major campaigning against this shit? I haven't seen anyone outside of here discussing it at all.
As far as i can tell
Nope
Iguess they learned from all the failed attempts and it slipped by or they stamped out whatever embers happened before it got to the "everyone panic and call your politicians" like dumblr tried to do for the last time something like this tried to pass
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e0305b No.16741108
>>16741086
>>16740985
>all those useful idiots
All I saw were two retards and an eurocuck.
>>16741100
I'm convinced you're a bot.
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51ae2d No.16741349
>>16741002
Super volcano pls hurry already.
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791f3f No.16741354
>>16741349
>>16741002
A Carrington Event can happen at any second and wash everything away.
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d84f82 No.16741357
>>16740962
I'm pretty sure there are actual shills lurking news comments right now. Pretty obvious with the retarded namecalling ("libertarian troll !" "neocon !").
It won't affect me nor the majority of people who are not technologically illiterate, there's always the option of going on tor. Normalfag cattle, though …
But I'm still astonished by the stupidity of people who actually think this is anything else than a corporate ploy.
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beb5a4 No.16741358
>>16741020
You know how DMCA already makes it so you can take down anything you want with no consequences? With CASE there would also be a minimal oversight small claims (max $15,000!) system that lets you bankrupt people you don't like.
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beb5a4 No.16741360
>>16741024
Those "outlandish scenarios" end up being the general use case of an broken system such as the DMCA. If it can be abused, it will be abused.
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5ba288 No.16741372
>>16740914
>In a way its also accelerationism.
It's not accelerationism until you are a militant extremist. If you remain a douchniglet minding you own business you will lose you life.
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48667a No.16741378
>>16741024
Article 11 and Article 13 haven't gone into full effect yet. and the "porn pass" bill was pushed back. at some point europe will run out the clock and it will be worse then you think. they already have people in the UK getting arrested for saying "men can't be women" under so called hate speech laws (remember when that shit passed?)
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51ae2d No.16741403
>>16741357
>right now
>implying they aren't always shilling
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d7c372 No.16741420
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92ffee No.16741429
>>16741024
>outlandish hypothetical scenarios
You mean like the completely ridiculous idea that somebody would use DMCA takedown notices for anything other than to report egregious cases of copyright breach, or an even more fantastic scenario in which ISPs and other intermediaries comply with such notices and punish the person they are filed again with no questions asked? Except in this case, the law makes it possible to extort money from the victim in addition censorship. And fun fact: DMCA was accepted unanimously in the Senate, and the full extent of the abuse that it allows was only revealed years later.
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cf05a9 No.16741633
I guess it’s time to learn Japanese.
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7aa1b4 No.16741761
>>16741703
I will build an army and violate your NAP
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7aa1b4 No.16741765
>>16741633
>not realizing that japs have some of the strictest copyright laws in existence
You are a retarded weeaboo
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05f06b No.16741786
>>16741765
>implying it matters what japan's laws are if you don't live in japan
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5e22b3 No.16741788
>“The bill would allow an unappealable tribunal to assign damages of up to $30,000, or nearly half the income of the average American household. A tribunal with that kind of punitive power must be accountable.”
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0dc9de No.16741792
>>16741761
>the post got deleted
(((Mark))) is a bootlicker, no surprise there.
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bc1810 No.16741814
>>16741000
No nation actually enforces Article 13 though. It's difficult to overstate just how utterly useless the EU parliament is. It's a pure circus act to make it look democratic. It's the commission you need to watch out for, not the parliament.
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e0305b No.16741822
>>16741814
see
>>16741378
eurotard, stop excusing retarded shit
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d7c372 No.16741885
>>16741870
Just make open source shit and fight the bill itself, no need to cut your wrists over this, the Boomer Politicians will always do fucked up power grabs like this, just infiltrate them yourselves if that's what matters to you. That's how you stop this shit.
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aeed4c No.16741896
>>16741403
But "always" includes "right now" as well.
>>16741378
>those teeth
Is the bottom left sheep supposed to represent a wolf in sheep's clothing or something?
>>16741860
>>16741870
Which one is blackpillfag?
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ef5b7f No.16741908
>>16741907
Stop fucking replying to it
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2d190e No.16741909
>>16741030
>In all likelihood nothing will happen
Nothing except the fact that anyone who uploads copyrighted material will become bankrupted. See >>16741788
We're all gonna be living on the streets, anon.
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6b52f2 No.16741930
>>16741788
Did the RIAA draft this? Is right up their alley since they sue the fucking dead if they downloaded even 1 mp3 in their lifetime.
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614996 No.16741936
>>16741924
>>16741934
Livestream it now faggots
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6b52f2 No.16741937
>>16741930
>>16741934
Samefag
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6b52f2 No.16741941
>>16741937
whoops i got myself instead of >>16741924
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e1c1ad No.16741944
Don't reply to blackpill fag
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8c8f7b No.16741948
>be artist
>have had my artwork stolen and sold
>read those fucking comments
I can’t tell if those are shills or useful idiots. What kind of fucking “artist” even has the time to think about suing somebody? What independent artist even has the legal know how? How could anyone defend this shit considering all the art and photos that would be lost forever due to small claims and copyright?
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35c409 No.16741962
>>16741948
You'd be surprised at how fucking overzealous Twitter artists can be. They get upset people use their artwork in very private environments, such as character portraits in private roleplaying games between friends.
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05f06b No.16741965
>>16741938
>he doesn't already live in a homeless shelter
They can't take anything from you if you don't have anything.
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8c8f7b No.16741973
>>16741957
Well blackpill fag, if this goes through it sounds like people like me would greatly benefit from it and I don’t even want this shit. You’d have a bunch of porn addicted people desperate to get ahold of your work and if I caught any of them posting my shit anywhere I could just bullshit and sue for up to $15,000 dollars with no questions asked.
So it forces them to either buy entrance to my shit legally, or I could sue and make bank.
>>16741962
That’s disgusting. The loss of media is enough to make any real artist be repulsed by this bill. We live (or lived) in an era where most lost media was found and recovered. Where just about everything was free and readily available. To throw all that out because you want to sue some people for using your shitty art work in some way you don’t like is disgusting. Not to mention all the copyright trolls and big companies that will abuse the shit out of this.
If anything good comes of this I hope it’s that the people these politicians and what not are trying to make miserable actually get out of the house, become healthy, breed, and fuck up (((their))) plans.
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6f17cc No.16741975
All IP law is illegitimate and bad for an economy. IP law requires violating private property rights by the threat of violence and comes at the cost of the consumer.
People try to justify this with "needing to protect the creative." However, the way I see it, there are only 2 types of creativity that are actually legitimate and beneficial to an economy. IP law is counter to both of those.
The first type of creativity is business innovation. Business innovation is a cost-cutting innovation, like a new technology or a more efficient method of work (e.g. fast food restaurants requiring multiple low-skill employees rather than one high-skill chef). On paper, it sounds good to doubly reward innovators which cut cost in business, but in reality people do not need IP law to reward them for making their business more efficient. The business owner is already rewarded by having their costs cut. In the same way you do not need government reimbursement (or some other form of economic intervention) to motivate home improvement, the business owner doesn't need a special law to motivate him to innovate. And what would IP law even do? Make an innovation exclusive to its creator, because all this does is require extra tax money to enforce and publicly store IP innovations, lock all competitors out of using said innovation (usually for a cost) which means products are less cheap than they could be and can lead to the creation of monopolies.
The other form of innovation is artistic. However, not only is art's contribution to the economy arguable at best, true art does not come from an urge to make profit, which is the goal of IP law. If you have an artist simply with the goal of profit through IP, you do not have an artist, you have a patent troll.
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05f06b No.16741988
>>16741969
That's three meals a day and a bed to sleep in. I'll also have all the other pirates that get busted and can't afford to pay to hang out with. I bet we can take Tyrone on if we work together.
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d7c372 No.16741999
>>16741814
The EU has no real power, it's more of a collective of red tape that tries to seep into other nations. An European Federation would actually be a good thing militarily and economically, but disastrous culturally and ethnically.
At any rate, Article 13 has a one-year-limit wherein all nations have to conform (that's why the sadpanda faggot got all uppity when the Netherlands started making some noise), but some nations (Italy, I think Greece?) were staunchly against it and are trying to keep it at bay for as long as necessary, or implement it so summarily that it doesn't matter. I myself am working a bit on some kind of assignment about it, but don't worry, any possible workaround or exploit I can see I'll post it and let you guys updated. In the meantime, you all should try and:
1) Create open source stuff, like publicly available music, games and the like - though do send C&Ds to people in the industry (especially the music industry, fuck those guys to hell and back) who are against our cause;
2) Join political/grassroot movements against (AND FOR! You have no idea how much work you can do for a freer internet just by sabotaging the efforts of the censors) stricter copyright restrictions, sharing information easily readable by normies on how this is terrible for them in a way that their pathetic little brains can understand (pro tips from Capra, Goebbels and (((Bernays))): 3 words for chants, 7 words tops for slogans and posters, make the people and legislation you dislike into soulless monsters while making the reader feel like a hero for informing others on the dangers they pose, don't ever let other issues meddle into your affairs or you'll get full on #OccupyWS by feminists and "minorities") on SOCIAL MEDIA and on public places, not just on tiny taiwanese flipbook animation forums;
3) Never ever go full #gamergate and play the PR card, it's super gay;
4) Proceed to archive everything and anything you can. Do use normie services like the Wayback Machine - pro tip it also saves media files but you have to manually add some of them, I know that some people managed to save entire comic book galleries on it and there's shit the censors can do about it since they assume that taking down the original link means it's unreachable by most people). On that note, don't tell people about the wayback machine too much.
>>16741918
5) Consider entering the IPFS and p2p websites world, since this is how the old Internet in the 2020's will function.
>>16741948
>I can’t tell if those are shills or useful idiots. What kind of fucking “artist” even has the time to think about suing somebody?
Big corporations, obviously. Though you should definitely look into compensation, pal. Scribbling down some shit is considered copyrighted material according to the US. DMCA the web owner rather than the individual user selling your shit, if they don't comply then go online on a public platform and whine about it making it look like you're some sort of transexual mexican immigrant.
Oh and by the way: link shorteners and encryption kills the (((eternal lawyer))).
https://www.base64encode.org/
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7cdfce No.16742008
>>16741993
This is our only future. This is the eternal death of piracy. We fucking lost. I want to kill myself.
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88224c No.16742014
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255acf No.16742016
>>16742014
This. Don't know much about this bill but if ithelps in taking down drawn CP and (((anime (((porn))))))then I'm all for it.
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d7c372 No.16742021
>>16742004
Oh yeah also niggerpills get the noose second
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86c449 No.16742033
They don't care enough about reaction images to copyright claim them, right? Right?
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66b241 No.16742036
>>16742033
If given the chance, they'll even copyright on the amount of oxygen you are allowed to breathe
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d56889 No.16742055
>>16742016
>blames hentai for his sex addiction
everyone should be responsible for their own personal problems, don't try to make this a public issue and beg kikes to ban porn because you couldn't keep your hand away from your dick for more than 5 min faggot
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e0305b No.16742094
>>16742033
That is exactly what they'll do.
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2af97b No.16742098
But how does this affect yurofags?
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4dba53 No.16742112
>>16742098
Yuros already have Article 13
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2af97b No.16742126
>>16742112
>Article 13
When is that actually gonna effect us though?
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4dba53 No.16742141
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24bf82 No.16742151
>>16742126
Next year of I remember correctly
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642c5d No.16742157
>>16741024
>"Look at Article 13, it's been law for months and none of the dreaded "meme censorship" happened"
You mean exhentai?
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4dc80d No.16742159
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aa1b29 No.16742187
>>16742159
>and then they came for the rule 34
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9aaaa4 No.16742200
>>16741000
Either the President vetos it and with Trump’s track record, it is more likely than you think, look at the TPP or the Supreme Court finds it unconstitutional and in violation of the 1st amendment. Every few years something like this gets put forward by the (((usual suspects))) a.k.a Disney and friends and most of the time nothing comes of it. But as other people have said, public awareness is the only effective way to fight this.
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139a6c No.16742206
>>16742200
>public awareness
That lasts for two weeks tops.
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ecac52 No.16742210
>>16741999
>The EU has no real power
It has power of inspiring individual EU countries even if bills don't pass. We already have recent example of that.
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4dc80d No.16742212
>>16742187
Oh yeah, that is going to be the first thing that goes if this thing passes, if not by the copyright goons, but the artists themselves taking down their pictures.
Better save what you can, shit is about to go south.
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2b2c70 No.16742216
>>16740914
A friendly reminder that copyright made a commodity out of human creativity (intellectual property) and that under a usury based economy all commodities will end up in the hands of the "richest" criminals by default. They just stole the natural human trait of building on the achievements of your ancestors. And they did it with exploiting child pornography (they themselves distributed) to craft their criminal copyright laws, which were then used to destroy the internet with censorship.
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aa1b29 No.16742222
>>16742213
>literally everyone except us is in support of this bill
For various (((reasons))) information on this hasn't been permitted to be distributed amongst normalfag spaces, hence why it appears so
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ecac52 No.16742224
>>16742213
>>16742221
Oh look, red text abusing niggerpill is back.
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aa1b29 No.16742233
>>16742231
Does this mean I get to join a prison gang? Thank fuck something interesting is happening
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e6658c No.16742251
This is why I don't support fascism. Govt needs to get the fuck out of our lives.
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5b0324 No.16742258
>>16741975
>IP law
No such thing exists.
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ecac52 No.16742278
>>16742231
>being scared of jail
I always knew you fucking pussy normalfag.
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d7c372 No.16742306
>>16742294
Yep. Fairly sure we have people going around the net getting paid to be niggerpilled at this point.
>>16742258
We should fight to shave off at least ten years off of copyright laws and make American and European fair use laws be 60 years after the publishing of the original.
COPYRIGHT IS CULTURAL USURY
>>16742210
The faggot got uppity all by himself though.
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6f17cc No.16742329
>>16742258
Hey faggot, IP law is just a general term, the phrase "legally-mandated monopoly over an idea via prevention of private trade of property that utilizes said idea without permission of the legal owner" will go over the head of anyone not knowledgeable on these topics.
That's why I said "all IP law," as in plural, since IP law is just the collective term of all creative property laws that require violation of private property rights.
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44cb9d No.16742517
>>16740914
I'm a fanfiction-writing faggot. How fucked over by this law am I?
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2e0e65 No.16742636
>>16742517
very, unless its sonic fanfiction
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3b8828 No.16742650
So how long till it goes in effect
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aa1b29 No.16742654
>>16742517
come up with a clever pseudonym and mail your stories physically to a trusted contact in the Caribbean who can post it online for you. It's the only way.
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323834 No.16742686
>>16740914
Might as well back them up in flash drives and bury copy of pirated games in the yard encased in boxes.
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aa1b29 No.16742770
>>16742759
Indeed
Asses and Elbows
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0db49f No.16742783
>yet another copyright law passes and everyone either doesn't care or bends over
>the few anon heroes who fought in the previous copyright wars were already forgotten
>all these people already chanting "we are the dead"
If you faggots told these stories to your newfags then maybe someday they will see that a hero is just an anon who knows he is free.
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e1c1ad No.16742788
I wish I didn't hide his posts to see how many he's made in a row after getting butthurt for not getting no (You)s
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323834 No.16742811
>>16742759
Well the buried pirated games will just be good in the ground while chaos ensues. I wasn't really saying to give up.
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26aa62 No.16742834
Upon looking at the law a bit more, it will kill a lot of sites but it won’t hurt the individual users so long as they remain anonymous (like we all do). I don’t know if site owners can be completely anonymous, but basically it asserts there HAS to be a name with the IP, so you’d have to have to register your actual name when you shared the picture or file.
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dcd470 No.16742900
>>16740922
It doesn't matter, it's too late, we've conditioned the entire western population to outsource responsibility and decision making to the government.
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f4609a No.16742903
>All those (1)
Niggerpill kike learned how to use VPN?
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791f3f No.16742910
Everyone, please report it as you see it post.
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f719a8 No.16742923
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dcd470 No.16742927
>>16742912
I've already accepted that freedom will die someday. I've also concluded that people don't deserve it. Anyone intelligent has already stopped trying to save humanity from themselves and is focused on making sure that when shit goes down, they're on the winning side.
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791f3f No.16742928
>>16742927
Don't respond to it.
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6be1f9 No.16742957
>>16742927
Why are you responding to it?
>>16741357
Years of conditioning and avoiding the truth because it makes them "feel" bad
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d7c372 No.16742976
>>16742759
99% of the thread is some guy IP hopping though. Literally no other thread has this many UIDs.
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d533f9 No.16742995
None of this particularly phases me as the majority of things I do are illegal in some shade of the law anyway.
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d7c372 No.16743016
>>16742903
Good thing the Mods did something right for once and got rid of most of the (1)s.
>>16742033
There are two ways they can go about these:
1) Underpaid interns like the fellers who moderate Faceberg, meaning they'll have to scan one by one individual links to see if something is in violation - hence they'll mostly skim niche shit and just aim for AAA and normalfag shit, most of which is shit anyways;
2) Neural Networks trained on image or data recognition, very expensive, also very error prone if you edit even a iota of the original, so most reaction images are fine. I've seen people do unspeakable things to video clips and still come up on top of the machines.
Neither will put an end to piracy, freedom of speech, derivative works, you name it, just like the other eight hundred times they've tried. Doesn't mean you gotta sit there and take it in the ass like the Niggerpills.
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e15670 No.16743030
This might not end freedom of speech as we know it but it is still fucking irritating and a step in that direction.
Fuck why can't jews with money just fuck off? Is it not enough to just live your life in fucking luxury and have a great deal of wealth for your family? You've gained so much already, what more do you fucking want?
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902f7b No.16743036
>>16743030
Everything not a kike to be dead. isn't it obvious?
But I take a step back and chuckle at the grand image: All this forced jewing and shit stunts any actual progress. Humans won't leave earth and hell, when something horribly happens that can't be paid off or sued (earthquake, tsunami, super volcano exploding, anytime the planet fucking farts), they will dies like any other fuckface.
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e15670 No.16743046
>>16743036
Yeah but where is the logic behind this? I don't get it. I get working for yourself and your family disregarding society, that makes logical sense. But fucking things up just for the sake of fucking them up when you are already on the top? Where's the point in that?
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ade6de No.16743049
>>16742722
How many times do you have to be beaten down before you give up? Oddly persistent for a faggot who is supposedly so despondent.
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4dc80d No.16743055
>>16742995
Just being on this site alone is probably enough to put some people in prison, in less fortunate countries of course.
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742e93 No.16743058
>>16741020
It's basically like DMCA except you can extort money out of people, without going through a real courtroom.
>>16741765
>>not realizing that japs have some of the strictest copyright laws in existence
which have very lax enforcement as doujinshi still exists to this day.
>>16742258
1st pic is fine. for 2nd pic change "protected" to covered. Also when series isn't applicable consider using franchise.
>>16742329
>"legally-mandated monopoly over an idea via prevention of private trade of property that utilizes said idea without permission of the legal owner"
<property
<owner
what the fuck nigger. creative works, inventions, and slogans/marks have no owners, because they're non-excludable, non-rivalrous goods.
>IP law is just the collective term
while it's generally used as an umbrella term, it's a misleading kike term meant to muddle the waters that should be avoided like the plague.
>creative property laws
have you considered reading a book that's not kike propaganda?
>>16742783
>>yet another copyright law passes and everyone either doesn't care or bends over
The problem is fighting back against (((copyright law))) is akin to saying you eat babies for breakfast and want scumbag lawyers 'poor creators' to starve.
The average niggercattle genuinely believes copyright is a GOOD thing(tm), the driving force responsible for the creation of music, TV, and games. They defend it fervently and will welcome any and all expansions hoping that will lead to more episodes of their favorite show, no matter how much corporate cock they have to suck.
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902f7b No.16743061
>>16743046
>win race
>was hard but you did it
>except that's not the only race
>not sure if you can keep doing it, some of these goym are pretty tough
>but
>what if
>there was no one else
>to race against
>and they were instead so stupid
>they brought the finish line to you
>and you didn't need to run
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dcd470 No.16743066
>>16743030
A lot of people who get filthy rich for long enough start craving power instead. Also you generally need to be some kind of sociopath to get filthy rich.
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6f17cc No.16743115
>>16743058
>IP law is not a legitimate form of property
Nigger, I agree with you. I just hate faggots who say "you can't say this word, it's misleading, it's blah blah blah." I'll use commie euphemisms and still convince people that IP law is bad, because I don't need euphemisms to argue my point.
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7b25e7 No.16743155
>>16740962
Looking at them now, what the hell is a "creatives"?
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ca45da No.16743181
>>16740962
Reminder ~2% of internet comments are real.
2% of that actually come from an original thought
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7615f1 No.16743298
Anon wake me up when we finally make the (new) Internet, cause am tired of current generation internet.
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742e93 No.16743328
>>16743115
>I just hate faggots who say "you can't say this word, it's misleading, it's blah blah blah."
I personally don't care about the IP term. It's what it's used for, and that's usually, a meaningless buzzword for twisting arguments. Hence I have a hard time letting it slide. You and I understand IP as a catch-all term for copyright, patents, trademarks, trade secrets, etc, or a way to refer to a franchise as a whole, and I get that. However, the same can't be said for the average layman, who's unable to accept any meaning for IP other than the one promoted by the (((publishing industry))).
Niggercattle genuinely believe IP is an actual form of property, and if you express disagreement with said laws while using the term 'property', they will 'call you out' on your 'hypocrisy' and label you a commie against the 'natural rights of creators to their work'. Hence it's in your best interests to avoid the term if you care about extinguishing the lies perpetuated by the publisher kikes, or at least non-biased discussion.
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26aa62 No.16743354
>>16743298
I hope that some autists are already thinking something up. Seems like the internet we knew was lost some time ago and is really showing the death signs now. Eventually it will be so neutered I’m thinking it’ll be like watching public television with 15 or 20 approved sites to visit.
Hopefully the next “internet” is made with resilience to this kind of shit in mind
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f9ec53 No.16743407
>>16742722
Here's your (you) niggerpill.
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d380fa No.16743413
I wonder if the House or Senate will make a more jewish version of the bill.
>inb4 the fucking commie jew votes against it while the useful goyim vote for it
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003c4c No.16743418
>>16743405
>Blackpillfag is at it again.
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742e93 No.16743427
>>16743418
>>16743407
for fuck's sake don't reply to him, just report and move on.
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e51b31 No.16743429
>>16742694
>>16742781
>>16742712
>>16742722
>>16742768
>>16743396
>>16743405
>All this samefagging
>All this IP hopping
Go back to >>>/gaschamber/ shlomo
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f9ec53 No.16743444
>>16743427
I can't help it anon. He deserves to be bullied for being a kike. I did report him though.
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d380fa No.16743453
>>16743444 (checked)
It is an attention whore that craves being called a faggot and whatnot. Ignoring its ravings is a better slap to the face then anything else.
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92c4c7 No.16743550
>>16742033
I've already seen DMCA claims on Twitter against lewd fanart, it's only a matter of time before they escalate to even viral stuff and memes
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334625 No.16743624
>>16743016
>Neither will put an end to piracy, freedom of speech, derivative works, you name it, just like the other eight hundred times they've tried.
Except this bill will put an end to derivative works. Remmeber that this bill allows copyright abusers to circumvent the courts and extort you directly. This will make it way easier and less costly to enact mass takedowns of derivative works and ROMsites.
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638a7f No.16743630
>>16741633
You mean portuguese. The world is going 1984 + BNW while Brazil is going Mad Max. Receiving threats from ISP/companies/police for pirating is an absurd concept here. No one cares about anything.
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3219b7 No.16743641
>>16743630
>The world is going 1984 + BNW
I've heard it described better as the love child of 1984 and BNW had a kid with the love child of Shimoneta and Idiocracy. The resulting child is known as Clown World.
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c968a6 No.16743688
>>16741024
Kinda like, oh, if anti-discrimination laws would be used to force women who offer bikini waxing services to wax a man's balls because he puts on a dress and pretends to be a woman. Hypothetically, of course. Now cup the sack, bigot.
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1d0a7a No.16743697
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c968a6 No.16743721
>>16743697
He calls himself "Jessica" Yaniv. Look it up. Just don't do it on a full stomach. This is happening in Canada, naturally.
You thought it would stop with baking the cake? Fondle the balls, bigot.
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1d0a7a No.16743736
>>16743721
The funny thing is that the owner was willing to perform her services on that hideous beast until she found out he was a tranny.
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ed9fef No.16744203
>>16741024
>>16741378
You fags don't realize that the EU isn't the USA fed.
Article 13 isn't enforced and won't be enforced unlike this if this passes in the USA.
EU is a bunch of different countries with different cultures and governments, not a single one.
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dcd470 No.16744215
>support nihilistic sociopathic capitalism, le free market
>omg why are corporations acting in their best interests at the expense of society??? :o:o:o
You're the architects of your own destruction
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ed9fef No.16744230
>>16744215
Free market is pretty bad, but this isn't even free market with all the government meddling and laws that stifle competition.
This is social democracy and communism is an even worse alternative you faggot commie.
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087ad3 No.16744231
>>16744203
>oy vey goyim the EU isn’t a monolithic entity
Holy shit, does that propaganda bullshit actually work anywhere?
>>16744205
Kill yourself right now or you’re a hypocrite, obvious paid shill.
>>16744215
>strawman because he’s desperately trying to cover up that his planned economy is why this is happening
>ha ha wow traditionalism is bad goyim
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97a94c No.16744237
>>16744203
>EU is a bunch of different countries with different cultures and governments, not a single one
yeah, they just obey the one, or get sanctions
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d7c372 No.16744242
>>16743686
Better a street than a cage
>>16744205
Okay, you start killing yourself and then we'll choose based on your performance
>>16744237
True enough but then you have cases like Croatia who are just throwing rapefugees from their borders into the wilderness or Hungary which built a fence around the inner regions of their country so the migrants aren't technically locked out
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dcd470 No.16744249
>>16744230
All forms of libertarianism eventually lead to a de-facto authoritarian society. Free speech means people with more speech than you can silence you. Free market means people with more money than you will monopolize the market. A hands-off government means corporations will eventually replace the government. You would understand this if you didn't have a sub-human IQ.
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ed9fef No.16744254
>>16744231
>He thinks the EU does diddly shit
You're an absolute retarded burger with no comprehension on how different each country in Europe is.
The EU can't enforce shit if a country or it's governmment doesn't want to, the max they can do is cut some funding and that's it.
The EU isn't the USA fed you retarded fucking burger, they're a godawful outdated organization filled with greedy old jews, but they're nearly impotent against most governments and have been in decline for years.
They've been trying to centralize for decades, but they still barely hold any executive power unlike the USA fed you brainless mongrel.
The EU isn't a country and their regulations and laws only apply to some countries that willingly comply with them.
THEY'RE NOT ENFORCED AND THAT'S NOT THE CASE WITH THE US FEDERAL GOVERNMMENT YOU DUMBSHIT
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087ad3 No.16744262
>>16744254
>oy vey goyim the EU does nothing
You’re really going to double down on that as though we don’t know better, huh. You think this is fucking Imgur, you disgusting yid?
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04521d No.16744265
>>16744237
With the USA fed you don't even get that, you obey.
>>16744249
Yeah, instead of having the little freedom we have let's just all have even less freedom than before.
Good thinking greatest ally!
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04521d No.16744272
>>16744262
>Pretending like the EU can enforce article 13 when they can't even enforce immigration laws
>Pretending like the EU has the power of the US federal governmment
You're an absolute retard, think about your own mutt country first before thinking about a continent you've never been to in the first place.
The EU is on it's deathbed kvetching like a child.
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cfee43 No.16744353
Couldn't this law also seriously fuck up modding communities and not just imageboards and piracy?
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ed9fef No.16744374
>>16744353
Yes, imagine what Nintendo does but for any copyright material.
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38b6b1 No.16744385
<Combining Capitalism with freedom of religion is the way to the moral paradise!
<Wait, why are we suddenly slaves to (((corporations)))?
You reap what you sow. Me living in the same type of country doesn’t mean I can’t occasionally mock whitey for his amounts of charity that go way past foolish.
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ed9fef No.16744389
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367329 No.16744392
>>16744353
Yes, the US Government has been intent on destroying the internet ever since the internet became a thing. And they keep coming closer and closer, but instead of trying to spread the word people always go "don't worry, it'll never happen."
Meanwhile media blackholes and memory holding is a thing, and there are people who legitimately believe that no one has been fighting this kind of thing for more than a couple of years. They even ignore SOPA (remember 2012?) being a thing.
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e0305b No.16744409
>>16744392
These are the same subhuman retards that equate saving and sharing data to hoarding physical garbage.
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ed9fef No.16744414
>>16744392
>"don't worry, it'll never happen."
Signs the Digital Millenium Copyright Act that was unanimously voted for by the Senate
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ed9fef No.16744417
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f005ec No.16744442
>>16744392
Before internet got big it was a frontier. I remember finding Russian… family videos… out in the open.
Piracy was easy.
Every newspaper article had comments.
It was inevitable that the government wanted more control. And society for the most part agrees.
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367329 No.16744447
>>16744439
>Reminder that we will have nothing left to live for after this bill passes.
P2P still exists, we'll figure something out.
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9f8166 No.16744454
>>16744447
>P2P still exists
Not for long
>we'll figure something out.
We never figure anything out. Remember, this is reality. The bad guys almost always win.
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fba7ea No.16744455
>>16744439
>Nothing left to live for
You must have a sad life. You should kill yourself. Go ahead, we're waiting.
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367329 No.16744457
>>16744455
You first. What a waste of some nice gets you are.
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ed9fef No.16744462
>>16744442
>Go into hiding from normalniggers
>They proceed to take your culture and bastardize it
>They proceed to take your hobbies and ruin them
>They proceed to take your refuge and ruin it
I'm so sick of this shit, I miss when the internet was just a little corner, a time waster most people would use only sporadically.
And you would think most people would get thicker skin over the years, especially Millenialls who grew up with it, but no, they bitch and moan more than they ever have about having their freedom taken away from them for moralfaggotry and "security" when no physical harm can be done over the internet and psychological one can be easily avoided.
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65126f No.16744467
>>16744464
>>16744459
Is this raid?
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ed9fef No.16744470
>>16744467
An autistic crossboard spammer with too many VPNs.
Don't reply, just report
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1417b9 No.16744471
>>16744467
They're not wrong. The government is taking permanent control over the internet and society at large is celebrating the dystopia. There is no way we can possibly stop the ruination of everything we love. If there was, we would already be discussing it.
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cfee43 No.16744475
>>16744450
>>16744439
>>16744466
>>16744459
>Darkiepill immediately responds
Genuinely go somewhere else. This bill isn't going to just affect us, it's going to affect multiple communities. Too many are affected by one law, there will be a blowback, especially from modding sites. To think that it's all just going to immediately go up in flames is catastrophizing. This site isn't your personal despair cumrag.
>>16744462
>Imageboards help you grow thicker skin
Funny you mention it, I can't count the number of times that I've handled situations far better because nothing compares to arguing with an anon till 4am over asinine things.
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ed9fef No.16744482
>>16744475
Not just imageboards anon
Even shitholes like Facebook and Reddit can give you a thicker skin.
Tons of wretched vile shit is posted there as well.
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3b84ec No.16744483
>>16740962
Here's some especially infuriating ones that I picked.
>>16741002
>>16741349
>>16741354
I wouldn't bank on them; they're not bound to happen anytime soon.
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ed9fef No.16744494
>>16744483
>They won't bother with small copyright claims
>Meanwhile Ion Maiden got sued by Iron Maiden and Nintendo sues it's fans
Let me guess, all of these ignorant as fuck nobodies are liberal writers?
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cfee43 No.16744497
>>16744482
>>16744483
>>16744484
>>16744490
>Immediate response, all (1)'s
>Using a barely informed site with an echo chamber as evidence
>Continuous whining
Why aren't you messaging site owners and other places? Start informing people.
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ed9fef No.16744501
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3b84ec No.16744504
>>16742251
>implying fascism would stand for this in any way
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f759da No.16744505
>>16744483
They just call anyone they don't like a name.
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d1dfb8 No.16744508
>>16744504
Silly Anon, don't you know? It's 2019, fascism is just something I don't like.
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3b84ec No.16744517
>>16744466
Hi Zon Kuthon, tired of shilling on /pol/? Funny that your life got cucked by a lawnmower.
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cfee43 No.16744521
>>16744501
>Spreading news to sites about a law that potentially involves them makes me a Qanon follower
Neck yourself.
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ed9fef No.16744531
>>16744517
Tell me he got doxed like Aaron Lawson
>>16744521
Because it won't do shit
The fed will keep making these until it succeeds, and it will.
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d1dfb8 No.16744536
>>16744531
>The fed will keep making these until it succeeds, and it will.
And the whole time you'll continue screeching about it on imageboards instead of doing something
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cfee43 No.16744553
>>16744531
>It won't do shit
It has in the past. And it doesn't matter whether they don't do anything, they should at least know so they can put some countermeasures in place.
>The federal government will just keep remaking the law until it goes through
Of course they will. That's part of the game.
>Just lay down and die
You first faggot.
>>16744536
>And you'll just keep screeching about it on imageboards
Because that's the extent of most anons political activism.
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ed9fef No.16744561
>>16744536
>And the whole time you'll continue screeching about it on imageboards instead of doing something
Pretty much, but so will you
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3b84ec No.16744569
>>16744531
I hope he does within the forseeable future, shit is gonna be super cash.
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dcd470 No.16744592
>>16744450
>This is the most blackpilling part. We are literally the only people on the planet lamenting the eternal death of the internet. Everyome else is celebrating further government restriction of our freedoms. We are all alone here, sad, weak, few, and dying. It would be a better use of our time to write a surrender note, honestly.
No, that's the redpilling part. Once you realize that people don't deserve freedom, you stop caring and simply look out for yourself.
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69f38d No.16744597
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ed9fef No.16744598
>>16744592
Most people don't deserve freedom
Unfortunately that's a fact, most people still lack awareness and still guide themselves too much out of instinct.
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aa1b29 No.16744701
This thread is in a shit state because it's hard to come up with any kind of counter or contingency plan when you don't really know the details on how this thing is supposed to work. You can't really inform people about it when the extent that gets post is
>it… uh…. lets… uh…. it lets companies…. like… censor people
>The unappealable court would be staffed by three full-time “Copyright Claims Officers” appointed by the Librarian of Congress, who would be allowed to assign damages of up to $15,000 per infringed work, and up to $30,000 total.
So, get this, the understaffed, under-budgeted Library of Congress would be able to appoint three whole people to run a small claims court on copyright offenses, up to 15 grand per infringed work.
>but people in the comments want to be censored
You're reading comments on a photography news site report on a law written to handle copyright infringements primarily done by media companies against photographers. Of fucking course they'll be for it, they've had their livelihoods fucked with and have been told this will put an end to it. Thing is, going to court over copyright disputes already happens, however, it doesn't happen very often for photographers in particular because the average case of infringement is about 3 thousand dollars, where the average lawyer is looking for cases above 30 grand.
>but the Senate passed it already
Wrong. The Senate Judiciary Committee passed it, it still has to win in the Senate Budget Committee, and in the Senate, make it through all the house committees, where it could potentially and permanently die, and then through the house as a whole, and then finally make it through the President. Then, even if that inevitably happens, it has to be budgeted, and carried out. The reality is that cheapos will prioritize boomer healthcare and nigger gibz long before they give a flying fuck about appointing a couple copyright cops to hunt you down for posting overwatch porn on a brazilian tanline blog.
>but it opens the door to further copyright abuse
It doesn't appear to change anything about how copyright law works, only how its being handled in small claims cases. It's intent is giving smaller parties the option to sue, where the big powers already had that power. Big companies CAN and HAVE sued normal people for infringing their copyrights before. Just because it happened over a decade ago doesn't mean it didn't happen. If copyright abuse is possible, that is a consequence of the already existing faulty copyright law. It's a shit law that lacks real accountability, and I don't see why they aren't just sticking it into the actual fucking circuit court system and allowing appeals, but none-the-less, don't let a shit OP and constant (1)s niggerpilling deceive you for a second into thinking the fate of Western Civilization was riding on this one fucking thing.
>what can I do
If your representatives aren't sheboons or zionist cucks, reach out and tell them what you think. Tell other people about it, and then go out, buy a gun and get fit.
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3b84ec No.16744708
>>16744597
I remember he left an edgy manifesto on how his life got ruined because his dumbass cousin/brother got their feet/hands ran over by a lawn mower, and that he got shat on for it, even though he couldn't do shit to prevent it.
something about a "euditic memory", I don't remember.
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742e93 No.16751357
>>16744483
>pics
holy shit the shilling is unreal.
>creator, property, ownership
Whenever you see someone use those words unironically, you can safely disregard anything said by that person with regards to copyright law.
I also found that this piece of garbage bill will allow LITERALLY ANYONE to sue you, as it removes the requirement of copyright registration at the copyright office before filing a lawsuit.
>>16744701
>you don't really know the details on how this thing is supposed to work
it's fucking simple
<file case in kangaroo copyright court presided by non-judges
<defendants don't opt out in written form within 60 days (all but guaranteed for average joes who don't even know what DMCA means). case will go to bogus court instead of an actual court
<send threatening letter to defendants telling them to pay up or risk lawsuit in said bogus court for up to $30000
<scared defendants fork out money
>going to court over copyright disputes already happens
It happens basically never, because hiring lawyers and defending from a lawsuit is fucking expensive, and proceedings take a long-ass time. The vast majority of people getting scary legal letters offering settlements pay up.
>It doesn't appear to change anything about how copyright law works[citation needed]
It will make everything MUCH worse. Anyone (not even the real right holders) can sue you for up to $15000 in statutory damages per work, without any registration involved or proving anyone was harmed or that anyone profited. Claims for under $5000 have an even more abbreviated process.
>It's intent is giving smaller parties the option to sue
Statutory (i.e. imaginary) damages will NEVER be ok, whether you're a small fry or a megacorp. They have jack shit to do with the actual harm caused.
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742e93 No.16751471
>>16751357
Besides, if you really care about your work, you can already register it at the copyright office prior to 3 months after publication and pursue infringers for >muh $750-$150000 per infringement using regular courts.
Seriously, why the fuck do you need those bogus copyright courts? Are you some impotent butthurt camwhore or furfag looking to make a quick buck going after random shitters reuploading your degenerate smut?
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fba7ea No.16751810
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92c4c7 No.16752051
>>16751745
>>16751794
>>16752043
Stop ip hopping you retard
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742e93 No.16752069
>>16751817
Have a quick rundown.
>registration is NOT necessary for filing a case
i.e. anyone can sue you anytime for sharing literally ANYTHING. and even if you get a licence for something, good luck ascertaining whether the licensors are the legit right holders (or are otherwise authorized to license it).
>you can opt-out in writing within 60 days of being notified to say you prefer going to federal court (and then hopefully the suit will be dropped/dismissed)
i.e. malicious big corps and repeat-infringers known for giving artists the shaft WON'T fall for it, only regular schmucks and small businesses
>if you fail to show up, a default judgment will be rendered and you won't be able to appeal it
>decisions of CCB judges can only be appealed to the Register of Copyrights, except in cases of "fraud, corruption, misrepresentation, or other misconduct," where a party failed to appear for an excusable reason, or where the CCB "exceeded its authority" (whatever that may mean)
TL;DR you can't appeal to courts unless there's a big fuckup.
>adjudication will be in the Copyright Office, located in Washington, D.C, NOT in the place of residence of the petitioner and the alleged infringer
TL;DR you have to fly to DC.
>plaintiffs may be awarded statutory damages for works that WERE NOT registered at the Copyright Office in a timely manner (contrast with federal courts, where a completed registration is a prerequisite prior to filing, and if the registration was too late only actual damages may be sought)
Caps are lower than federal court, but still enough to bankrupt most common folk. Up to $15,000 per claim and up to $30,000 per case (plus other stuff like costs, up to $5,000 in attorneys' fees (or more in"'extraordinary circumstances"), etc.).
>"""judges""" of the CCB are appointed by the Librarian of Congress, and the bill prohibits removal based on the "substantive result of any individual determination reached by the CCB."
i.e. they can't be removed them for being biased
sources:
>https://www.publicknowledge.org/news-blog/blogs/the-case-act-small-claims-big-risks
>https://medium.com/re-create-coalition/the-case-act-a-windfall-to-attorneys-and-bad-idea-for-the-rest-of-us-d3899f59d11
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985fe5 No.16752185
>>16752069
I appreciate the effort in explaining this. All I really wanted was something more substantive than "trust me it's bad". I still think it'll get gored in a budget committee, or undone by a court, but I'm not holding out hope.
And to the fag who keeps having his posts deleted telling me to delete my post, go fuck yourself. I'm not a coward who hides shit when I'm wrong. Why would it matter if I'm wrong if you are so certain of it, unless what I said compromised your pathetic demoralization campaign.
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a42a12 No.16752832
So what do we do after this bill passes?
Why was my last post deleted? I wasn't even niggerpilling.
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a0705b No.16754302
>>16752832
If we had a plan we'd already been discussing it.
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ef89a7 No.16754632
How long before this becomes law?
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1fea78 No.16754646
>>16752832
Break the law I guess, we're already at the point that it's easier to live as a criminal than a law abiding citizen.
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ae64e0 No.16754690
I really hope niggerpill is a paid shill cause if he did this for free it would be even sadder.
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1fea78 No.16754704
>>16754661
What other option is there then?
When the laws are so strict and rigid that merely existing without breaking them becomes impossible you might as well embrace criminality.
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f02192 No.16754718
>>16754707
Shove your VPN up your ass, cuck.
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1fea78 No.16754735
>>16754716
Shut the fuck up you worthless kike, if your kind always won the world would have ended a long time ago and the only thing left of humanity would be some horribly inbred creatures with suspiciously large noses.
Shit will bounce back, but it might take awhile, your niggerpilling is senseless garbage that will die with you while the rest of the world looks back and says good riddance.
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5ad9b3 No.16754738
>>16754646
Indeed. Unjust laws should be broken, specially when they make your life impossibly hard. You should pirate and break copyright/patent law as often as you can, and encourage others to do the same thing. It's hard to erase normalfags' conditioning by the kike media, but whenever they see that most people around them don't give a shit about copyright they'll join the rest.
I don't really know how to achieve something like that, but it's necessary to get in normalfags' minds that copyright and patent law are illegitimate and there's nothing wrong about breaking it. Maybe making pirating as easy as possible could be a good start, since most people only really care about convenience, and if they can get their shows/games/etc in high quality just by clicking a button, they won't see any problems with that and they'll prefer it to paying a thousand different subscriptions a month.
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1fea78 No.16754745
>>16754738
Pirating is already extremely simple, the trick is to not overwhelm them with technical terms while explaining how it works.
Gotta break it down Barney style like you're talking to a toddler.
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2df7bf No.16754772
>>16754646
>>16754661
>>16754667
>>16754681
>>16754704
>>16754707
>>16754716
You guys DO know that prohibition ended only because law enforcement was about to be undermined because everyone had lost faith in the system, and because the demographic of people that "wanted" the law completely (and vocally) opposed it. Right?
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1fea78 No.16754783
>>16754772
Yes?
Why'd you include me in that?
I'm advocating for that very thing to happen.
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2df7bf No.16754795
>>16754783
I thought you would like to know, to back up your argument.
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2df7bf No.16754801
>>16754745
How I was introduced to torrents was through a JewTube video telling my how to download Sonic Heroes.
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1fea78 No.16754811
>>16754795
>>16754801
Oh my bad I thought you were calling me a niggerpiller for a minute.
So show normalcattle those kinds of videos, eventually one of them will pick up on it enough to spread the word to the rest of the herd.
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f79c9c No.16754939
>>16741024
Article13 has 2 years implementation periods. fucking hell why are you so stupid
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aa1b29 No.16756475
>>16754632
It hasn't been passed yet.
The CASE Act has only passed the SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. It still has to pass, at minimum, the Senate Budget Committee, any other Senate Committee who feels it falls under their perview, the Senate as a whole, the House Judiciary Committee, any other interested House Committee, the House as a whole, a joint Committee should any changes be made in either house that would differentiate the two bills, and finally, the POTUS.
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