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Stop deleting this thread.

>another FO thread

Why. We have had a FO thread up for almost a month, in fact the old one is probably still up. What else do you want to say about it.

>Fallout General

You're really lost.

I'll start things of

>Caesar

A fool with a degenerate cult of personality. Next

>House

An old dumbass that should been feed to the cazadors a long time ago.

>NCR and Tough-Man looking Courier

A corrupt and inefficient bureaucracy. Nuff said. The Courier does look cool and tough but still has a faggy appearence just being associated with NCR. NEXT

>Yes Man

The only really reasonable option. The only reason these factions come out in top as in NV is because of the Courier, so this is why he should be able to take the reins. He solos everyone listed.

>>16733907

I might when the thread is dead and has reached the bump limit.

>>16733911

This is a more NV faction based thread, and the FO general is close to dying. It's good to have a fresh start.

NCR was shit, Legion might have been cool if they weren't technophobes, Yes Man is a shittier house end as once the Courier dies New Vegas ends up being run by an AI cooked up by a random follower of the apocalypse. House kinda wins by default even if there was a lot wrong with him.

>>16733937

>if they weren't technophobes

Did you play the game?

They don't give technology to anyone and you have to prove yourself before getting weapons.

>>16733944

Yeah. They refuse to use basic stim packs and insist on just blowing up the robot army if you want to side with them. Caesar was totally cool with using that autodoc though so i can believe the fuckup there was due to not being a finished faction.

>>16733948

So you haven't played the game because veterans use brush guns, plasma grenades, thermic lances, 12.7mm submachine guns etc.

brotherhood of steel are the best faction

>righteous

>care about their own kind

>want to sit in the basement all day and tinker with their technology

>good at math

>don't give a shit about the fate of the mojave so long as their own kind can be safe

>the preservation of technology for the indefinite future is as noble a cause as any other

>do not allow degenerate scum into their fold

>respect for a carefully constructed social hierarchy and chain of command

>realize that everyone has their strengths and should contribute accordingly

I start to think these threads are made only to baiting people…

>>16733959

Yeah i mentioned them being hypocrites.

>we don't want a war won by technology

>except when we use advanced weapons. not the bots though, those weapons don't count

>we wont use stims, we use stuff found in nature to make healing powder

>but stims can be made out of cactus fruit and shit

>NCR is a bureaucratic nightmare destined to fall

>which is why we are overextending ourselves like crazy with no clear line of succession

Caesar was a fucking loon.

>>16733986

They'd be cool if they didn't rob anyone with a plasma rifle. It always annoys the shit out of me when people try to make distinctions on what technology is too much technology.

>>16733937

Depends on your courier's decisions. Ultimately there's not really any reason you couldn't pass on power down the line.

>>16734087

I mean, yeah, but, that's because the NCR is completely retarded. It's basically the worst of late-stage western society all rolled up into one package.

>>16734089

Plus Ceaser doesn't die 100%, he could send a squad of legion soldier led by Vulpes and could succeed in finding an auto-doc or just capture some rando Follower taking a piss break.

>>16734087

Assuming you had actually died and Victor saved you for nothing, I'm guessing House would have just hired someone else to infiltrate the Fort. Benny would already book it to there and be captured.

>>16733931

>Yes Man

>The only really reasonable option.

Despite the endings not alluding to it, it's heavily implied that Yes Man is a rogue AI who takes control of Vegas. Furthermore, if you destroy the Fortification Hill facility and the robots in it and then go back to Yes Man, he will sound really angry/frustrated about what you did but trying to pass it as a good thing because he's Yes Man. He really wanted that robot army, so he's not just a thoughtless robot doing everything you say because you ask it to, he's the wildcard playing it off as helping Benny/You so he can take over in the end, since he's really the one controlling the Securitrons.

>>16734115

The usual argument I see is "muh tumor made him think dumb sometimes".

I pin it mostly on that the entirety of Caesar's Legion, effectively, was cut.

>>16734144

Do tumors even lower intelligence? First time I hear of it.

>>16734141

Out of context? Then what is the context of "Now that all our big enemies are taken care of I will go reprogram myself"?

>>16734102

This will continue until the end of time anon, until we have reached the answer.

Unless if you put a stop to this madness…

>>16733904

>who won in New Vegas.

anything except NCR is fine with me

>>16734152

Imagine a tumor eating away at the frontal lobe, impairing your logical thinking, or a tumor in the temporal lobe fucking with your memories.

>>16734258

What's wrong?

>>16734012

>>we don't want a war won by technology

Are you mentally retarded?

They don't want to be over-reliant on technology hence before you get fancy weapons you need to prove your worth using machetes and spears, it's not too difficult to grasp

>>16734152

Imagine a piercing pain inside your head that blurs your vision and disrupts your thinking, imagine the only temporary solution is minding your brain to ignore the pain

>>16734295

Yes, but what about it? That's what Dala looks like. Or pretty close to it, if not a bit more feminine. She looks pretty androgynous in the Big MT science team art.

>>16734440

>Yes, but what about it?

>>16734258

>>16734440

>Yes, but what about it?

It looks like Squirrel Girl tier shit.

>same thread again

Op please.

>>16734013

>BoS

>Has a nigger in their ranks, and you have to kill a hu-white man to join them.

The Ranger camping just outside the Hidden Valley bunker? You know you don't need to kill him, right?

>>16734499

But they want you to and think thats the best option.

>>16734255

>human

No

>>16734164

>he still thinks Mark cares about actual discussion

He doesn't, otherwise he would stop deleting all posts by IP as well as whole threads like you said.

>>16734530

>No

Then what's your alternative, faggot?

The Frontier is released.

>>16734164

>I reported the last thread because it was going way offtopic into religious shit

FUCK THE MORMONS

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>If the men came into the room and engaged in a war of ideologies, which one would come out as the victor?

Mr. House

>If the primary leaders came into a fight with each other, who would win?

Caesar

>>16734440

This is why fucking a TV screen is far superior.

>>16734177

This is why my greatest fear would be performing brain surgery. It just takes just one wrong slice in the cerebellum and suddenly the patient can't properly open doors anymore. Damage to the brain might not right away show problems, but the pain will reveal itself in more insidious, sometimes subtle ways.

>>16733931

>i can rule best

That's the most retarded route.

>>16734164

>OP sets up white room where ideologies go head to head

>gets butthurt when religion inevitably comes up

>fails to realize religions are rooted in ideologies

I think your threads are a waste of time if religions centered around Elvis or the atom bomb is not allowed.

>>16734881

Religious matters are fine, it's just when the conversation/matter turns into completely something else that would be its own thread on /PowerofChrist/ along the lines of /religion/ we do have a problem. Though I guess if the thread is on life support, it couldn't be as bad. It would be better if the talk is spiritual on >>>/x/.

Talking about in-universe religion and its relation to irl religion is good. Look at the megaton town. They probably have better stories to tell in regards to it.

Faction Breakdown:

Mr. House is /liberty/

Legion is /pol/

Yes Man/independent is /b/

NCR is reddit

BoS is irrelevant

Followers are /leftypol/

Presented in order of best to worstprove me wrongpro-tipyou can't

>>16735433

I pretty much agree, the only part I think is off is that House is /liberty/. He is definitely the closest faction in the game to /liberty/, but he also does things like order the Courier to slaughter the entire BoS bunker and kill a ton of innocents because they might be a problem in the future. Which is pretty non-libertarian if you ask me.

>>16735451

BoS ideology/existence is an automatic NAP violation, they must be physically removed.

>>16733986

I'm good at math too. Look:

energy weapons blows + power armor blows = BoS blows

Seriously though the BoS is basically a fraternal organisation exists in a constant state of war with basically all post-war civilisations, and can't meaningfully coexist with anyone because of their sole founding purpose put them at odds with anyone who doesn't recognise their absolute hegemony over technology. The only reason that Bos isn't shown taking a more active offensive posture against Mr. House is that they blew their wad against the NCR, and also don't seem to be fully aware of Mr. House's resources and capabilities.

>>16734306

>They don't want to be over-reliant on technology hence before you get fancy weapons you need to prove your worth using machetes and spears, it's not too difficult to grasp

Then why didn't they give their top guys personal robots instead of blowing the entire army up like a nigger?

>>16735433

Legion specifically mixed tribes to kill their tribal bonds and instill loyalty only to Caesar, that shit would make /pol/ flip their lid. And it's a lot like communism. Followers can't be /leftypol/ because the followers actually try to help out others.

>>16735540

>that shit would make /pol/ flip their lid

What do you think Hitler's conquering of nearby countries was about? He explicitly wanted to unite the Germanic peoples. That's not too dissimilar from Caeser in that regard, even if the intention is different.

>>16735487

Daily reminder that OWB allows the Courier to hit on her brain, and subsequently get rejected. What if Brain-chan said yes though?

>>16735540

I have big problem with the way Tribals are depicted in the Fallout games in general, even that they exist at all really, but if you take it for what it is, Caesar's approach makes sense. He is taking proven survivors forging them into a cohesive whole. What you see in NV with Legion is how a race of people is made. The Followers are dysgenic, free lunch providing, would-be nanny state socialists. It's because they "help" people that they're the worst.

I find the whole wasteland theme more realistic with the better bodies mod, full bush settting. I don't know why, but I have a difficult time believing bodies would be left with their underwear intact in the savage remains of a once civilized nation.

>>16735589

>spoiler

then you would be a fucking moron for not going for the superior OWB choice of the stealth suit or even the light switch(es)

>>16735989

Trick question, there is no waifuable character in NV.

>>16735989

Dr. mic

>>16735991

I'm sorry that you can't love a robot you roboist

>>16736008

hahaha good one Mike

>>16735981

Tribes aren't the same thing as races.

>>16735991

Not even the stealth suit? You're wearing her, after all.

>>16736051

I found her rather grating.

Especially with how needy she was.

Oh, and then there's the whole issue of chewing through my stimpacks, and making me addicted to medex.

I'd still fuck it, though.

>>16734089

this. I got the rest of the DLC and entered Old World Blues. not sure if I'm still in the desert technically after being mangled by Eye-mouth face guys. the dialogue was long and boring and annoying with those fucks. problem is, I don't know whether I'm gonna make it out alive. what do?

I also noticed the Enclave is not discussed here much. any good reason for that?

>>16736219

Like the Brotherhood, they're basically dead and gone. Too caught up in what was and unable to adapt to what is. Also, crazy tribal who blew up their HQ and killing most of the top brass and scattering the remnants (who are all very, very old).

>If the primary leaders came into a fight with each other, who would win?

<frozen corpse

Weakest of the bunch.

<cancer man

Dead before he arrives there.

<NCR president

Probably a pussy as well but probably in decent health, so beats the last two.

<Yes Man

Literally a killer robot armed with machine guns and missiles that will survive a thousand deaths, easy victory.

>>16736223

OOOOOOH YEEEEEEEEEAH

>>16734714

Refer to >>16734141

>>16736223

Yeah, I was surprised at how incompetent and disorganized they really are when I sided with them on my "bad guy" playthrough.

What mods are recommended for New Vegas for a first playthrough? Things that fix obvious bugs and problems, and for quality of life, not looking for radical changes and no graphics mods (unless it fixes something really ugly of course). I would also need an up-to-date guide, because when it comes to modding Bethesda games it seems that the correct ritual changes all the time.

>>16736404

>retarded horde of rapists with state-enforced homosexuality are right-wing

>>16736416

/pol/ is just retarded, but 1341bf is even more retarded for going to tripfag /vg/

>>16736424

>>he hasn't played the game

Give an example nigger.

>>16736427

>>16736420

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Where did you come from?

>>16735540

>Then why didn't they give their top guys personal robots instead of blowing the entire army up like a nigger?

Because a robot can be reprogrammed

Second,

CAESAR DOESN'T KNOW WHAT'S INSIDE THE SECURITRON VAULT

>>16736404

>>16736415

with three axes

>freedom versus government

>left versus right

>sensible versus retarded

>>16736449

It's a shame Mark just nuked the last thread and I'm too lazy to repeat myself, but the gist of it is that unless you extrapolate that there's also Caesar's Empire, which is a step above the Legion, Legion being just its military, it really is nonsensical. Slaves and the shit Legion doesn't make sense if it happens in their own territory, too. It does make sense if Legion is just the military and it's supposed to keep rolling West. Too bad the game wasn't finished and there's basically nothing indicating Caesar's Empire exists, save for "it makes sense for it to be".

>>16736458

Eh, I'd say even there, NCR is better than that shit, since at least the NCR has something like a 90% chance of having a military coup within the next ten years the way things're going.

It's still not great, mind you, but, you don't have to have much decency to be better than a bunch of barbarians.

>>16735952

>fag who acts like a woman because he forgot what his body looked like and wants to became the prison bitch of the rest of the think tank

>superior to anything

absolutely not

>>16736476

Does a brain attached to a few monitors count as gay?

>>16736466

The Enclave is so tragic. They literally just wanted to purge America of mutants and take preventative measures to ensure no more come about, but they were mercilessly destroyed. I'll forever keep holding on to the hope that they make a return, somehow, as the good guys.

>>16736479

Well, if it's a gay brain…

>>16736479

If it's a man brain then yes

just because you cut off the dick and the rest of the body doesn't mean that it isn't gay

I don't understand why I should have to explain this

>>16736497

>Was disappointed something along those lines never cropped up in 4

A bit unrelated, but I remember one bit of dialogue which I liked in that trainwreck of a game. At the wreck of the USS Constitution, you meet some robot who asks you for your ID. You have the option of telling him your name and stuff and the robot identifies you as a military veteran, salutes you, and gives you a free ticket to the museum. I dunno, kind of a small thing but I liked it, and that moment stuck with me despite forgetting mostly everything else about that game.

I agree that they could've at least mentioned the Enclave. Could have even been a faction. Technically, the Enclave weren't supposed to be present in the east coast but since Fallout 3 wrote that in, they could have rolled with it nonetheless.

>>16736497

Thing is, most retarded stuff about the enclave is just there because the writers wanted it so. They wanted the enclave to be the villains so of course they have to be retarded, even though their actual motive is completely fine.

>>16736526

Sorry for double post, but I just remembered. You're right about the Enclave having a presence in Chicago. It was mentioned in the Lonesome Road DLC by ED-E having one of those 'flashback' moments.

>>16736538

That's what I was thinking of, yeah. Though it's been a while since i played that lot, so, I don't remember if it was supposed to be a minor outpost, or if there's actually something of substance there.

>>16736466

>Niggers in uniform extort protection money, kidnap you if you don't pay

>but they don't even protect you from non-uniformed nigger rapists

NCRfags will defend that

>>16736600

>without Caesar, I think it'd still end up decently

But we know from the endings that it doesnt. Is this just denial or have you not played the game?

>>16736612

Fair enough. I guess I forgot.

Don't really see why it should completely collapse though. It's got enough structure to persist, with some nasty stagnation damage. Especially out east. I mean, Caesar led from the front, after all. Or at least in the way it was portrayed in-game.

>>16736615

Because Ceaser was the only one with enough Int. The Legion was so successful because he knew what he was doing. Ceaser should have groomed a heir. Now the one who is going to take his place is a retarded tribal who's only good at fighting and discipline. If anyone should have led the Legion after Ceaser it probably should have been Vulpes.

>>16736615

>I dont see why it should collapse completely.

Without anyone proper to guide them the legion will most likely succumb to infighting which will lead to people trying to become leaders of their own right which would lead back into tribalism. It's only natural.

>>16736640

>>16736686

Aren't the Frumentari that Caesar created high int enough? Wouldn't they be able to maintain control and decide that they are smart enough to form a council or senate based on the Republic of Rome? If that wasn't a reason that Caesar groomed people like Vulpes for alongside the thought of him helping form a spy and infiltration network then Caesar created his empire with the intention of failing from the start if not securing a lineage of his own or a sound backup plan for if he dies.

>>16736695

Ceaser says that the Legion isn't meant to stand forever and ultimately the plan is for the Legion in its current form to disappear. He says that he wants to take over the NCR and by doing so the Legion and the NCR will idealistically and politically mix creating a somewhat middle ground that has the stability of the Legion and the not being a marching deathball like the NCR. Technically the cancer throws a massive wrench in the whole thing. And he probably wanted to avoid anything resembling a Republic and stick to pure Monarchy so there wouldnt be any political bickering

>>16736707

I get that he was making the Legion temporary but the idea of instilling a fierce loyalty and ensuring his lands are strict where it comes to law breakers and raiders, along with the thought of an already strong hierarchy system based majority on merit is not something I saw as temporary. He wanted to civilize the fierce and tribal appearance of the legion and turn them from appearing as raiders and slavers to the outside world to a more stable and welcoming nation. The middle ground to the mix of Legion and NCR sounds like it would become a parliamentary government with him as chancellor so the point of not having a council or senate or a proper lineage to advise him or succeed him again is dooming not only him but whatever comes afterwards by turning the Legion into a split of factions like Alexanders Macedon.

>>16736736

I think he also says its going to be a gradual over time generational thing. He doesn't expect the current tribals legionaries and NCR citizens to get along but over time their offspring to have more ground for unity. Don't know how much that will work in practice though.

>>16736695

Caesar and Joshua Graham are the only educated men in the Legion, nobody would know about forms of government other than hard-line dictatorship after Caesar dies.

>>16736485

Wasn't their whole plan to just abandon Earth ultimately?

>>16736766

Something something Vault Tec actually being a program testing people for space travel and vetting good candidates

I don't remember where I read it and I don't remember how legit it is

>>16736807

Original vault experiments were shit that would be good to know the results of when outside of earth conditions, test vaults with no experiment, bethesda came up with

<LOL WACKY LOL XD LMOA SOCIAL EXPERIMENT

So many years since New Vegas and people still argue. That is a sign of good writing.

House is the correct choice if you have a sense of honor and respect

>NV wouldn't even exist if it weren't for house's defenses

>has 200 years of leadership experience

>is giving you a golden opportunity to gain great riches for doing great deeds

NCR are fucking Californians, Legioniggers are backwards tribe wreckers who torture and slaughter for fun, and with anarchy the whole region will devolve into tribal warfare till a dominant tribe emerges. House is the only man who can not only run the Mojave properly, but even make it thrive. He has worked harder than anyone else for his goals, and is the only man who can not only make the region survive, but thrive as well. If you choose NCR you're an urbanite faggot and you belong in the killing fields. If you choose Legion you're a sadistic edgelord. If you choose yesman you just want to watch the Mojave burn. If you choose House you're a man with a sense of decency and respect for the wisdom of elders, and have the sense to recognize a rightful dictator when he sees one. HEIL HOUSE

>>16736879

>Legioniggers are backwards tribe wreckers who torture and slaughter for fun

to be fair, they destroyed niggers who played tribals worse than them, 86 times

Kill everyone run and psycho ending best run. Prove me wrong, go ahead and seriously tell me that anything, I mean anything in the game is worth preserving.

>>16736908

Dumb mutt get's his brain replaced anyways.

>>16736910

gets*

What's your point?

>>16736915

Dies one way or another, can't be saved, literally used the worst example.

>>16736901

HELIOS is worth preserving.

>>16736994

You have a duty as a mailman to work for the frozen corpse, who is your boss

Too many of the important people in the Legion are personally loyal to Caesar, whoever brought up Alexander's diadochi had it right. This totally blunts the argument that Lanius is more dangerous, as long as Caesar is alive he's a threat to any civilized people near him. Just like his namesake his personal ambition trumps anything else, no matter how high his aims are. He's probably the Mojave's best bet but if you're standing on the principle that independence is valuable by itself, only a confedederation of the existing powers can accomplish that, and only House can achieve it. If you would prefer that person to be yourself, Yes Man is the answer. NCR is the only outright incorrect choice, they lack the infrastructure and stability to pacify the region with any permanence. It goes without saying, but House and Yes Man routes are both pointless unless you can either unify the Mojave's existing powers, or more practically, bring them under some tentative suzerainty. Though I prefer Yes Man, House and Caesar are the best options. Unfortunately both have a lot of potential for failure. Like I said if you have a moral compunction against him, or you believe independence has inherent value, then House is the right call.

Caesar=House>Yes Man>Literal Anarchy=NCR

>>16737091

>moral compunction against him

"him" referring to Caesar.

And now I have to reinstall NV again.

Again tips for good "dungeon" mods? The single factor where FO3 imho had a trace of merit over NV was that there were more abandoned buildings etc. you could explore without first having picked up a corresponding quest on the other end of the map (which naturally was made easier because FO3 only had a fracture of the quests NV had, but that's another can of worms).

Bonus points for vault-themed dungeons.

>>16736994

What's the context of those pictures?

>>16736745

>>16736761

Overtime integration and acceptance means nothing. Just because Caesar is playing with the long game in mind, doesn't mean he has planned for the long game in mind.

Caesar and Graham were educated formally by the Follower's, yes. But over time those two had groomed many loyal men to follow, to lead, and to think. It's why the Legion became so large and organized.

If the Legion takes over Nevada, with the probability of Caesar living or dying, he has the whole of California to deal with, things change when you enter someone else's homeland. Occupation is not victory, and full on subjugation would take an overt amount of time when it comes to a nation the size of California as it is no simple backwater tribe. Remember Lanius orchestrated guerrilla attacks on the Legion and if he had the manpower he would be able to whittle away at his adversary. Caesar has left a large territory with most likely governors, or generals in charge of provinces and states. The beast of the east is moving west to assist the main Legion compliment and if Caesar dies would the territory in the east accept Lanius' full rule when/if he comes back from a bloody campaign? During Romes actual existence leadership all over the Roman Empire had been assassinated for less, who's to say that Legion territory hadn't learned from Caesar's rule and would place someone with a clear mind in charge? Who's to say Caesar's men wouldn't sack the capitol and try to usurp power similarly to how Rom had been sacked when the fighting force had been worked endlessly and had not been given what they were promised. Again it goes back to Alexanders' Macedon, or to better relate the event to the time after Julius Caesar's actual death and the rise of the second triumvirate with Octavian, Lepidus, and Antony.

Honestly considering the historical perspective Caesar is dying like Alexander, but he has groomed Vulpes. If a civil war in the Legion did happen Lanius would come out defeated and Vulpes being the closest thing to Augustus would win. Lanius has fear at his back, Vulpes has the loyalty of Caesar's troops and commanders.

>>16737522

That's my post from the FE thread. Dunno why he screencapped it. >>16735685

>>16737522

>>16737603

I took the screencaps just because I liked the way the background changed when you tapped it, gave it more oomph. It also has more content in it for the future.

>>16737603

Does it let you play as the mommy?

>>16737908

NCR seems to like hiring people with rather (((hooked noses)))

>>16737001

>You have a duty to your master, wage slave

House is generally an asshole who pays you absolute peanuts. He spends most of his time treating you like shit, wild rewarding you and you're hard, diligent work, with barely enough to recuperate operation costs.

If you are a big enough cuckold to work for house, I can only assume you must be a complete office drone, who barely counts as human at this point.

>>16737986

>comparing working for some white collar boomer on insurance claims to working for a billionaire genius on bringing back actual technological progress beyond the NCR's "sustainable growth? What's that?" attitude.

The ending slide says he gives you every luxury possible, either out of fear or pride. In a land where people struggle just to get the necessities, that's not "peanuts".

>>16737986

>Ooga Booga, work is for suckers.

I bet you’re mad the Powder Gangers aren’t a major faction.

>>16738210

>Actually wanting to be stuck in a vegetable pod for the rest of your life

Gay

>>16738360

Yeah but you'll never die (or atleast not die for another 100 years given that you'd already been exposed to the outside), and you can watch everyone from other robot's perspectives and fuck with patrons.

Or you know, side with House and still fuck with patrons but with your own body.

>>16738368

Maybe when I'm already old and basically unable to do anything functionally, anyway. But, I'd rather be able to actually physically interract with the world. Especially given Fallout's standard for technology. Somehow I don't think those bulky robots and staticy screens give pleasant feedback.

Also, house is an asshole who pays you peanuts, so, I'd rather just kill him and make an actually functional city with more than a single line of casinos that don't actually produce anything of worth or value.

>>16738368

If you want immortality just wear robowaifu suit until you die and she'll carry on your animated corpse for all time wandering the wasteland aadministering your twitching dessicated carcass stimpacks.

>>16738373

I don't get why so many people liked her. She was clingy, and seemed to desperately want me addicted to drugs.

So, has anyone ever explained why Caesar has never sired a heir, instead offering stewardship of the legion to a big retard in a metal mask?

>>16737908

Don't you step on him now.

>>16738438

The easiest answer is that he’s just impotent.

Seeing as radiation is as common water in the wasteland, there could have been multiple opportunities for Ed Sallow to get to a dose of rads large enough to make his balls inert.

>>16738476

>>16738438

Perhaps he could have (secretly) adopted one.

>>16736404

NCR doesn't really fit on this compass but I suppose in contrast to the Legion they are left.

>>16738601

As already discussed, the image is retarded. I deleted it from my NV folder.

>>16738909

Actually animating him vibrating defeats the purpose, I feel

I want to use the JSawyer mod, but I don't want to deal with the bullshit carry weight shit that's put in, since it just makes the game extremely tedious. How the fuck do I this? NV modding has so many hoops to jump through, so many out of date information to sift through, and just so much bullshit and so many utilities to work through. I just want an answer without having to sift through outdated guides and videos in order to make sure the changes I make won't make my game implode. Alternatively, a mod that changes armor DR/DT values so that low dmg/high ROF weapons aren't useless.

>>16739507

Populated Casinos. Doesn't add much to the Strip from what I remember but it has different sizes based on what your computer can handle. All it does is add random NPCs with basic gambler scripts to the casinos + Atomic Wrangler.

>>16739507

http://archive.fo/CxKfg

Go down to the section "Towns & Buildings: Overhauls, Additions & Restorations." There's plenty to choose from here, including overhauls for every casino. You may have to go to the actual site and not the archive link if the "Show" buttons don't work for you.

>I just want an answer without having to sift through outdated guides

This one isn't outdated and should work just fine

>>16737102

>Dungeon mods

A world of pain, it’s expansions, and new vegas interiors.

>>16736407

>state-enforced homosexuality

It's stated that homosexuality is punished by death in the legions.

>>16733986

>>16736442

Sounds a lot like h8chan/v/

Reading all this shit about the Legion makes it really the better light.

I don't share their disdain for technology though. A super sledge goes well with a power armor.

>>16741144

I'm really looking forward to Dying Light 2 now because it seems Avellone is implementing a faction like New Vegas in it.

>>16741144

Cæsar's "disdain" of technology is two-fold. He doesn't wnt his legionaries reliant on it in a fight which makes sense in a setting where poorly maintained weapons and ammo shortages is prevalent, yet he doesn't stop them from actually using it in a fight. The other side of it is his understanding of how the nuclear apocolypse started in the first place. The NCR is just a re-threading of the US government which in the fallout universe was party to destroying the world with it's nuclear weapons. Leading the world down that path again will lead to the same outcome, but will probably kill off what little there is left of humanity once and for all.

Real question time now.

>Kill your son

or

>nuke the commonwealth

>>16741307

Both.

>>16741307

The only winning move is not to play

Hey kid we heard you like action games and movies. So we filled your action game full of cut scenes, dialogue, and pointless exploration. How about that? Don't you like your action games SLOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW????????????? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Fuck all modern FPS seriously

Kill this genre

>>16741307

See

>>16741452

Anyone who actually finishes the story in that game is a tard. Especially since it requires you to sign on to one of the factions, who're all faggots.

>>16741017

>retard does not realize being gay is illegal in ncr

>while its ok in legion

ncr=right wing

legion=left antifa in their true form

>>16742377

>retard does not realize being gay is illegal in ncr

Nigger within literally the first hour of the game you meet a gay NCR officer

>>16741492

>>16742569

Trying too hard

>>16742569

What's up with this

>ClipboardImage

shit now?

Did I miss some new epik maymay?

>>16742745

It's another new spammer. So now we've got blackpill, jewcy mark, and now this fag shitting up the board.

>>16736879

House has the same problem as Andrew Ryan, though.

>The great chain is pulling away from me. Perhaps it's time to give it a tug.

>>16737578

Caesar and his vision being alive means that the Legion won't go full retard as far as the west coast is concerned. He'll use the resources of the New Vegas region to consolidate his entire territory and a more orderly succession will take place when he dies.

>>16741616

eity eytg

>>16742940

>comparing House to Ryan

House has no ideology beyond "if society is more advanced than people chucking spears then it will be more prosperous and therefore I will have more money". House cannot be called a hypocrite because he doesn't have a professed great belief that he ultimately goes against; he is a businessman, and everything he does is in the interests of his business, not for some greater good. Mind you, I am not saying that he is a kike, just that his interests just so happen to seem idealistic and even humanitarian when really he just wants the Mojave to stop being a shithole so he can get more power and money. Turning against the NCR in the end is just common sense if you know anything about how the NCR really works, being a passive aggressive psuedo-American expansionist bully. Your comparison is stupid.

And I honestly can't blame Ryan for turning against his own ideals because Rapture, which was doing good so far, was fucked up by a New York kike and his superpower crack, and desperate actions were necessary for damage control.

>>16733986

BoS is what you get when a retarded hack writes not-spess-muhreens with a helping of not-mechanicus

>power armor

>big guns

>kill all the heretics wastelanders with tech

>hoard tech, pray to machin scavenges to keep it running

>has chaos outcast brotherhood

>source has been retconned to make them good guys instead of smug pricks

Am I missing anything?

>>16743526

>anyone with powerarmor and big guns are 'spess mahreens'

Nah. You're just a retard reaching. By this moronic logic, any bad-guy military force is just 'not-nazis'.

>>16743600

PA only exist in the fallout universe due to oil running out thus tanks not being viable anymore. So people had to become tanks.

>>16743526

>>16743600

> It's hardly reaching to connect the two.

It is when you connect it to a work which rips off christian symbolism as readily as it does anything else to sell paintable minis because your eyes can't look at anything but the over sized pauldrons. With said Space Marines being literal brainwashed religious fanatics that serve as angels of death and vengeance as much as they do near suicidal shocktrooper supermen. The BoS are just a bunch of dudes who are power hungry and most of the shit they spout is just something they like to use as an excuse to look down on others, the normal guys in the power armor included.

When I was younger, NCR seemed like the correct answer. As an adult, the answer is The Courier or House.

>>16743666

the correct answer is Caesar you democrat

>>16743670

>democrat

I take offense

>>16743600

>>16743681

That anon is correct, the Brotherhood has the medieval knight aspect which is lifted straight outta Warhammer 40K, and remember the Ripper as well, it's a chainsword.

>>16743693

40k Spacemarines aren't anything like the BoS's version of knights, though. Hell, 40k spacemarines aren't really 'medieval knights' as much as zealous crusaders, when it comes right down to it. But, regardless, with the BoS it's mostly just ranks, whereas with space marines, they're far more in to the whole 'warrior monk' type of deal.

Honestly, I'm just well and truly sick of every single time powerarmor gets mentioned, 40k faggots being all 'ITS JUST A CLONE'.

It's rather cancerous. And, frankly, it seems to be primarily from people who don't even know that much about 40k, outside of what they've seen skimming the internet.

Hell, I'm not convinced the thing's that original to begin with, anyway.

>>16743701

I'm a fan of both series. idc, its all good stuff.

>>16743425

It's not about ideology, it's about attitude - both Ryan and House are clearly the rulers of their respective little kingdoms despite their protestations to the contrary and will not be sidelined by an up-and-comer without a bullet in the head. Ryan talking about "muh markets" and "muh parasites" while having men tortured to death because he fears no longer being the de facto king of Rapture tracks quite well with House talking about "rebuilding humanity" and his other superficially benevolent plans while having you murder anyone who might pose a threat to his rule.

>>16743681

>The concept of power armor has been expanded to countless other mediums and concepts, at this point. You might as well be pointing to the origin of 'sci fi', and saying "ALL SCI FI IS JUST A COPY OF THIS".

The difference here is that power armor has only changed marginally since Heinlein conceived it; it was basically born fully developed. If you want to dissemble you'd be better off bitching that Heinlein was just ripping off Achilles' magic armor from the Illiad.

>>16744037

Andrew Ryan did literally nothing wrong and the only way for his paradise is literally a fucking mastermind mafia behind it.

>>16738358

>Don't choose a prosperous future for the Mojave because the guy who's telling you how to accomplish that is mean to you

you got bullied in high school didn't you

>>16743600

Why are wh40cucks always this autistic

>>16744403

I can't hear you over the sound of my Gary Stu headcanon courier teaming up with Yes Man to get the absolute best outcome in every respect, no matter how little sense it makes or how much the epilogue contradicts me

>>16734175

>Infinite fusion core energy

>infinite power armor health

>more perks per level

>Stomp around killing the same three archetypes of enemies while noticing FO4 lacks even the tiny spark of comfy charm Skyrim had

>and that FO4 has world building so bad it's barely even playable

>Be disgusted and uninstall the game

I only managed 20 hours of it by installing a swearing animals mod, so encounters with them were at least funny.

>>16744139

>Not all muhreen are zealous crusaders either, so get your shit right.

They are all zealous crusaders, they're brainwashed specifically to be loyal to the emperor, each chapter even having their own modifications to the tech to enforce their own customs. If they're not brainwashed to be that way they go rogue or become traitors very quickly. BoS are just descendents of pre-War soldiers who decided to take things into their own hands.

>>16745034

Nothing is wrong with Evola though.

>>16743603

Why was that an issue? Couldn't they just make tanks nuclear? If they're worried about the fallout why wouldn't that also be an issue with Power Armor?

>>16743681

>The concept of power armor has been expanded to countless other mediums and concepts

That doesn't prevent it from being associated to space marines.

For example, any time a laser sword appears in a movie there's almost always a reference to Star Wars. That's because they invented, or atleast codified, the idea of the laser sword.

Even if it's something like a spy movie and the "sword" is just a laser cutter, there's usually some sort of reference to it.

>>16745055

From the way NVBIII ended up he could just as well be talking about himself

>>16745176

I imagine a nuclear tank getting hit by a shell would be pretty bad, but power armor doesn’t need as much fuel so is smaller risk when getting shot.

>>16745188

Makes sense, especially if they're using space-age undersuits to help prevent radiation poisoning. In the original Fallouts, did the power supply last effectively forever or is replacing it part of repairing it gameplay-wise?

>>16745176

Easier to crank out someone in a suit who can carry a retarded amount of ordinance and uses a hell of a lot less resource than a tank.

>>16744037

It's just business baby, can't crack an omelet without baking some eggs

>>16744866

>They are all zealous crusaders,

Nah, that's the Black Templar.

They are all brainwashed and loyal to a fault for sure, but most muhreen are able to think logically and tactically.

>>16745188

I mean, It's vidya nuclear power. In reality, any kind of portable nuclear reactor (apart from some shitty Plutonium-238 rtg would need way too much shielding for its power output to ever be useful in even a large tank. And don't get me started on the contamination caused by one nuclear powered car blowing up, it would be a small Chernobyl every time spewing kilocuries of strontium, caesium and iodine everywhere, killing every poor fuck who happened to breathe in the general vicinity while Jimmy Jimson Junior wrapped his Corvega sedan around a tree.

Kind of a shame that nuclear radiation is portrayed so harmlessly in Fallout.

>>16748154

Sure anon, but first let me know of another good RPG that's released in the nine years since New Vegas that isn't a JRPG

>>16748154

Make a thread about it then retard, don't sit there and complain about people not making threads about games you want to talk about when you can't even be assed to do it yourself

>>16748310

>Age of Decadence

>Underrail

>Blackguards

>Pathfinder Kingmaker (arguably)

>Grimoire

>>16734102

I'm kind of tired that all these thread are about NV factions. It's always the same shit about Caesar, House, NCR and Yes Man.

Are there any NV mods that make power armor like it is in 4?

>>16748865

Project Nevada has a HUD overlay for power armors and some other armors but nothing to the degree of what is featured in Fallout 4. Either wait for that New Vegas conversion or for OpenMW to get its shit together.

>>16748310

Kingdom Come and Pathfinder: Kingmaker come out last years faggot.

>>16744560

Why are you "gotta be pigeonholed with one flawed faction or another" faggots so salty about other anons not relegating their characters to lackey status?

>>16738210

House is the AnCap choice you utter mongoloid.

>>16745034

What kind of fever delirium produced that image?

>>16745227

>did the power supply last effectively forever

iirc the description in Fallout 1 stated that the power supply is supposed to last 200 years of continuous use.

>>16745188

It's more due to power armor being still fairly experimental and only being rolled out right at the end of the war with the t-51b being the most advanced tech produced. The invention of the microfusion cell which allowed for power armor to exist came about after the war had already started and by then it was too late to mass produce microfusion cell based military vehicles though apparently cars that ran on them had just started coming out and if the war happened a few years later that invention would have prevented the war entirely.

>>16750169

>not killing a ranger and switching to legion armor depending on territory

>>16750169

That's one good looking abdomen, wonder if it could carry kids

>>16749243

1)I believe those anons have an unhealthy and childish desire to be God;

2)the Yes Man questline literally cannot be fucked up. It is there as a backup for players who fucked up everything else but still want to finish the game. Yes Man is the tard helmet of factions.

New Vegas is discussed so much because it is the only game in the series to actually deliver on the premise of "difficult morality". In Fallout 1 there is no reason to actually support the Khans or the Master. The only difficult choice comes from choosing Gizmo or Killian, and whether or not to save Necropolis. Fallout 2 isn't much better, in fact I can't even recall a choice that's really difficult to make at all. Fallout Tactics is almost pure combat focus with a binary ending. Fallout 3 is cartoonishly retarded allowing you to be either a mustachio twirling villain or a living saint and there is really no case to be made for the Enclave or Tenpenny (with the notable exception of Ashur's faction in The Pitt). Fallout 4 allows more options as you become either good, sarcastically good, sadistically good, or retardedly evil. The entire concept of synths and the fundamental problem surrounding them has already been done (and done better) by the Super Mutants and the Ghouls.

Fallout 1, 2, and Tactics are fine games, but they are fairly straightforward and the only real variation to be gotten is from rebuilding your character, not in following a different end goal. This works for the plot of all three games as you are fighting for a pre-determined home. New Vegas offers you four different homes. 3 and 4 are tainted by Pagliarulo's idiocy.

>>16750284

I think you misunderstood. The comment was directed at faggots that want to pretend only Legion/House/NCR are legitimate options and that Yes Man is anarchy or Yes Man doing something that has already been refuted multiple times. There is nothing stopping the Courier from ruling the Mojave and quite a bit of quests to set up a stable rule prior to completing the game. So why be so salty that some anons aren't cuckholds that drink the jizz of some already established leader?

>>16750924

Are you illiterate?

There isn't any piece of evidence that would establish a broader framework of what kind of man courier is, other than "former courier, survived a headshot"

he can be a she, might be an altruistic champion of justice, or might be a murderous cannibal

>>16750966

But then we can just say that the courier was the best shit ever since nuclear energy and he solves everything perfectly.

Yes, that is theoretically the best outcome. But in actuality the discussion is about what if X faction takes over regardless of the Courier.

>>16750911

> the Courier is an unreliable, that is, we can't really fucking say what he is.

We can say that he is impermanent. He shows up, does something spectacular, and exits the stage, leaving other people to deal with the aftermath.

Almost all of the indicators point to a man who simply does not want to settle down and holds no real affection for any place.

>>16750940

*isn't in the control of the player

The courier is roleplayed doing what the player wants the Courier to do. The end of the game shouldn't force a characterization on the player's character. If I roleplay a Courier that usurps House's power, kills Legion and NCR wherever I find them, and has befriended every other faction why wouldn't my Courier be in a position to rule the Mojave with an unstoppable army of robots? Why wouldn't he be willing to? Why would I be forced to accept some lazy writing that forces my character to walk off into the sunset?

That Yes Man facilitates a way to win the game regardless of who you piss off amongst the main factions does not matter. It doesn't make it an inferior choice, because all the other factions are shit and lack enough options to be worthwhile. Why can't I take over the Legion? After killing both Caesar and his retarded successor and enough legionaries I am sure the survivors would be willing to serve my character. Why not? To take agency away from the player. Not being able to take over the NCR makes sense as it would just collapse under such methods.

Yes Man is effectively the route to take over House's "faction" and highlights not the stupidity of players needing a loophole to beat the game that they made unwinnable, but how the other factions remove options in dealing with them. Yes Man is the only way to get an ending that isn't "you helped faction A, B, or C and then were irrelevant again, the end."

>>16751042

>If we assume the courier is a realistic human

Why would you assume that?

>>16751069

Thats the thing, its only one option. You can assume a lot of shit, but its just that, an assumption.

>>16751068

You're fucking retarded. Yes, ebin messiah courier is best option. Happy now? But good job ignoring everything I said.

>>16751084

>That's the thing, its only one option

Choosing House, Legion or NCR are only one option, because you become just another pawn for those factions. Choosing your own character has potentially unlimited options. Pretending like there is only one option to it is as stupid as pretending like you got to be nice to the doctor that saved your life when you can in fact wake up, rob him blind, and then kill him. That isn't a bad way to play the game. It is just playing a murderous character. So why is it a bad way to play the game to be out for yourself and not becoming a pawn for some other faction?

>>16751124

>But they are concrete option and we know what they are. We don't know what the courier is because he is always different. How are you this fucking dense?

So you are saying that the player doesn't know how the character they played will act? You are the one that is dense, nigger. You are acting like the Courier's characterization is set in stone. The Courier's name, sex, appearance, and personality are up to the player. How the Courier would act in any given situation is up to the player including what the Courier would do with Yes Man. As far as the other factions being "concrete" that just shows what a lemming you are and how scared you are out of the comfort zone of being a follower. A player that would choose to be the boss and not take shit from pseudo-intellectuals like House or Caesar scares you. It reminds you subconciously of how unoriginal you are. You need the comfort zone of officialism.

>>16751182

>you like can't use the characterization of your courier in your run where you chose Yes Man, that's like cheating and stuff, mmmk?

No, nigger, that isn't how it works. I can't help that your chosen ending is limited and this makes you salty that Yes Man is the best ending as far as roleplaying options go.

>>16751246

>My headcanon invalidates all your arguments!

Yes, actually, because yes man ending is too fucking broad. It *might* be the best ending, it *might* be the worst ending, it *might* be good for some factions and worse for the others, it *might* be bad for the courier and Vegas, it *might*… So on. Courier Six's ideology is determined in the gameplay, not story, so there's a lot of variables and you can't be sure what you are talking about is true for another anon.

>>16751257

It's good for roleplaying, but terrible for the story if you want to go on from there, as you have to consider an awful lot of options.

>>16751264

Well, the Courier has to make it from point a to point b to make it to the ending and has to survive what comes in between through whatever methods. That alone gives him enough merits to stand with the rest of them.

>>16751246

>My headcanon

Its your headcanon as well you absolute retarded brain dead nigger. Thus my headcanon does indeed invalidate your headcanon. I already addressed this retarded argument here >>16751042

We are at the point of me using previous posts. Its clear that you are too retarded or merely pretending to be retarded. Either way, this discussion is over.

>>16751257

See >>16751124

This isn't about roleplaying options or gameplay or whatever other shit.

>>16750966

>bonus for 85

>gets 84 and doesn't get a bonus

Fucking scum. Unbelievable.

>>16751287

>This isn't about roleplaying options or gameplay or whatever other shit.

I get it. Your retarded argument is that "we don't know who the courier is" when the courier whoever the current player decides. You just don't like that because it removes your ability to pigeonhole the Courier's future actions in the Yes Man ending. You know what you are getting when you bitch out to the Legion, NCR, or House, but you can't say the same thing about the Yes Man ending because such an ending is truly free. You don't even really get to shit on it for supporting disagreeable politics, because it can have any kind of politics plugged into it based on what type of character a given player's Courier is played to be. The Yes Man ending is definitively the best ending unless you are roleplaying Caesar's bitch, NCR's bitch, or House's bitch.

>>16751279

We know that yes-man route Courier Six

>was fixed by the Doc Mitchell

>may or may not have helped Goodsprings

>may or may not have went south around the Nevada, instead of straight for the Vegas

>may or may not have dealt with Khans in Boulder City

>might have killed Benny in the Tops, or lead to his death in Caesar's camp

>may or may not have upgraded securitrons

>may or may not have made other factions in the Nevada support him

I dunno if protecting Kimball's actually required, but if not, that's another thing on the list

>may or may not have roamed the wasteland for search of more loot and experience

>may or may not have dealt significant damage to Caesar's Legion in the battle of Hoover Dam

>may or may not have dealt significant damage to NCR in the battle of Hoover Dam

Bonus round: DLC content

>may or may not have ventured to Sierra Madre

>may or may not have let people left there live

>may or may not have ventured to Zion

>may or may not have decided whether Sorrows should become /k/ or not

>may or may not have ventured to Big Mountain

>may or may not have subjugated the staff and Dr Mobius there

>may or may not have killed them instead

>may or may not have ventured to the Divide

>may or may not have nuked NCR, Legion or both

What man is the Courier Six?

>>16751355

Anon, that's true for every Courier not just Yes Man route. One thing for sure is that the Courier nuked The Divide before the start of the game, but it's player determined as to whether it was intentional or not.

>>16751364

Yes, thus we refer to what would major factions do. "But what if Courier took NCR over and turned it into national socialist paradise" is a possible scenario there as well, but it's totally reliant on who the courier is; but if he sides with NCR, we don't have to know anything about him to assume what NCR would do after winning at the Hoover Dam.

>>16751352

>when the courier whoever the current player decides

And thats a valid basis on determining what the courier is like? God you are fucking retarded.

>truly free

No, its vague and pointless withing the discussion.

>>16751355

>What man is the Courier Six?

What man the players decides that he is. How is it that fucking hard to understand? You also left out hundreds of side quests with various results that also determine what kind of character the Courier is based on how the player played him. That the Yes Man ending is different depending on which Courier was played to it does not make the Yes Man ending worse. It is still the best ending, because you, yes you the dumb nigger I am talking to, can choose for yourself what kind of Courier you played and what he does with that ending.

>>16751370

>And thats a valid basis on determining what the courier is like?

Yes.

>God you are fucking retarded.

No, you are the retard. You can't even understand something this simple and yet you are arguing about a roleplaying game. You should be right at home with shit like Fallout 4 with how little roleplaying or options you seem to want for the player concerning their character.

The real question is - what the fuck does it matter? It's a single-player game, go play it as you wish.

>>16751371

>It is still the best ending, because you, yes you the dumb nigger I am talking to, can choose for yourself what kind of Courier you played and what he does with that ending.

Listen, blackest gorilla nigger in the entire universe. This is cool for roleplaying, but it relies entirely on the player making up what happens to Vegas after the end, instead of any *estimations* based on what already is (like with House, NCR and Legion) for a barely established character, which means that in the case of Yes Man ending, you have to pull everything out of your ass. In contrast, in other endings you have factions that can act have established ways of operating and can be expected to do certain things, therefore making future developments based on what is actually established in the game, and not every player's individual guesswork.

Or, to put it differently: if you have to make a sequel to FNV, which ending gives you the best prospects without them sounding obviously contrived? The one where you have to guess everything about the ruler of the Mojave, or the one where you have that mostly undetermined previous player character *and* an established faction with goals and ideology?

>>16751355

Well we know he did the main quests at least and have to beaten the other factions to win out in the end.

If we're talking realistically, Courier would 100% the game and its dlcs, or at least finish the main quests of them which is a feat. A fews dlc don't happen to the Courier under his direct control like Honest Hearts or Old World Blues.

>>16751375

Holy shit you mentally ill faggot. This isn't about discussing the merit of New Vegas as a roleplaying game or your ability to pick options. This is about analyzing what the game has presented to us and discerning the qualities of certain ESTABLISHED factions and ideologies. The Courier does NOT have any established character or path besides getting shot in the head and surviving and helping somebody take control of Hoover Dam.

We know what the Legion will do.

We know what the NCR will do.

We know what House will do.

All these are presented within the game as some established and known. We have no fucking clue what the Courier would within the context of canon. Until a new game comes out and confirms what kind of person the Courier is within official canon we canon determine what the fuck his effect would be and what he would do. Thus we cannot discuss him as a possibility beyond headcanon. You are literally trying to use your fanfiction as a stand in for a 4th option. Do you no realize how fucking pointless that in discussing the merit of each faction?

Its like saying "well, in my playthrough Ceaser suddenly decides that he loved Democracy and goes on his knees to apologize to the NCR and reforms the legion into a pacifist group that smokes pot all day".

>>16751287

What are you even talking about, retard.

>>16751390

>i NEED the safety of being told what my character, that the developer was nice enough to loan me, did, coming up with anything on my own isn't official and that's bad its gotta be official or its chaos!

>>16751413

You need it, if you want to have any meaningful discussion about the player *character*.

>>16751404

>This is about analyzing what the game has presented to us and discerning the qualities of certain ESTABLISHED factions and ideologies.

Convenient way to exclude the best ending. The "qualities" of the established factions and ideologies have been talked about. Not everyone agrees that you need to suck on one faction's cock or another's.

>The Courier does NOT have any established character or path besides getting shot in the head and surviving and helping somebody take control of Hoover Dam.

Hence the roleplaying aspect of the game. It isn't established so that you can play the character that you want to play. Unfortunately for you such freedom is limited to picking from three different factions.

>We have no fucking clue what the Courier would within the context of canon.

Here you are talking about FOUR possible endings and mentioning the word canon at the same time without a hint of realization of the irony.

>>16751418

Nah.

>>16751427

That's hilarious considering how much I btfo the anti-Yes Man position, but go on pretending like that doesn't matter. Keep pretending like who the Courier is needs to be validated when in a roleplaying game the Courier is who you decide he is. The pages aren't blank, they are just different for each player, which means you can't say the Yes Man route will end up bad if a player such as myself says it will end up good. You can't really shit on it in any way other than to cry that it isn't official enough. It makes sense that those who hate freedom would hate the most free ending in NV. The freedom of the Yes Man ending scares you.

>>16751445

Further it is actually hilarious that in the Yes Man ending you end the game with a lackey that does everything you tell him to do, while in the other three endings you are the yes man that does what those factions told you to do.

>>16751478

>Its a pointless exercise to compare 10 billion made up books to 3 other real books.

We're talking about a game, not a book.

>>16751490

>3 other known endings

see >>16751461